/biz/ - Business & Finance

can someone please actually describe what makes ARK valuable over something else?

kek, you're not memeing about the .25%
Took them like 2 weeks to add it. This will be a long wait.

>>4777068

0.25%?!
What a bunch of potheads

>>4777091
thank god i haven't reached 500 ARK yet i hope it is out after 28

Encoded listeners are just a glorified shapeshift. You still have to trust the encoded listener operator not to steal your coins. Atomic swaps are better. The ArkVM is also dead in the water since it won't be running on the main chain which makes your ark tokens useless.

>>4777073
It didn't require armies of computers mining, fast transfers, voting gives you passive increase, smart bridges will allow things like payment portals that accept any bridged coin, etc

Lots of coins promise things like this, but the ark development team is actually delivering.

>>4777237
>It didn't require armies of computers mining
that's pretty cool.

what's voting?

>>4777168
>token

ARK isn't a ERC20 token. Back to Bitcoin old man.

>>4777308
So instead of mining blocks they forge blocks. The top 51 delagates forge the blocks, and coin holders vote for delegates. The delagates in turn give their voters some of the ARK they get from forging.

Got 1.5 ETH on Bittrex, urge to dump it for ARK rising. I need to make the 2500 goal before EOY.

ARK 10$ EOY

>>4777478
ARK will be top 5 coin EOY 2019, 50B+ market cap.

>>4777478
$5 EOY I'd be comfy

>>4777137
Should be this year, so probably before Christmas holidays. Personally accumulated to just over 1k, should be enough if it really pops off late 2018.

>>4777135
desu wallet must be ready, probably waiting on App stores

Insider here. Buy this coin right now. Buy as much as you can. It will be listed on coinbase

How many ARK for a gf like this?

>>4777892
big if tru

>>4777969
three fiddy

>>4777892
>>4777971

https://blog.coinbase.com/bitcoin-ringing-the-bell-for-a-new-asset-class-77361cc1bd66

"Over the last six months, Coinbase has worked closely with ARK Invest to study the characteristics of various asset classes."

Can't see any reason why ARK wouldn't be next, especially if ARK helped them decide what coins to add.

>>4778007
thanks just went all in

>>4778083
ark invest has nothing to do with the coin. completely different entities

>>4778083
>ARK Invest

This is not our ARK. This looks like a normie investment group

>>4778083
https://ark-invest.com/

Here is my TA about ARK. Don't really know what to expect. Would say that more possibility to explode up than down.

Just bought another 500

kek

>>4778450
wow such rare high def

>>4778574
fuck, nice. I only managed to get 100 so far. gl :)

>>4778422
>>4778450
>>4778482

These are very aesthetic

>>4778574
I'm out of spare money until next month. Fuck me.

>>4778729
Post address

What's the price target of t gets listed on COINBASE?

>>4777068
I may buy some of this shit when it pulls back how does the voting system work? any good biztard arkies I can vote for?

gg boys im doing half of my ltc for ark

>>4778574
>another 500
and i dream reaching 500 feelspoorman

>>4778834
Help another poor anon

>>4778834
AY2pHSMpeqUnft46Uu3dAZnAr2gY87E46v

>>4778858
Top3 delegate or so is called biz_classic only delegate worth a damn /ourguys/

>>4778858
https://blog.ark.io/how-to-vote-or-un-vote-an-ark-delegate-and-how-does-it-all-work-819c5439da68

biz_classic is /our/ delegate

>>4778834
ANhPkftgNJ17cFRSf5D4ThWCocoBfLDGdM
DADDY

>>4778888
At least i got quads

>>4778873
good decision, lite coin is low key just a shit coin

seems like $4 is the new floor basically, i was hoping to get a couple more hundred at closer to $3 but i dont think thats gonna happen anymore...im sitting at 475, i will definitely get to 600 maybe even 800 by EOY, but ideally if i can get to 1000 arks before this thing really starts to take off ill be happy

>want to put $5k into ark
>see its ATH

I don't know guys, I've been burnt like this before

when did you stuttering potheads stop measuring your gains in btc? Is it cause your delusional shitcoin tanked 90k sats?????

>>4779664
better to buy now, then when its on a new ATH

>>4777168
You can't do atomic swaps across different types of blockchains. You can with encoded listeners

BTC is a beast

33k soon so I can get more

>>4779664
don't look at its $ value when considering buying, its not ATH in its BTC value. personally i think its good time to buy.

>>4779779
What's with that magnet?

>>4780119
Dont worry about it, it was before your time lad

>>4778574
bro, there's a really good chance we're about to hit a small drop back down soon. if you just bought 500 then be prepared to hodl for a few days. don't panic sell

>>4780119
Kek, hi newfriend

>>4780164
what makes you say that?

Send BTC so a gal can get on the ARK?

1P4rTDXNicnV3fNw B9uSqkTp2TjJM6oo25

>>4780119
>>4780131
>>4780181
Magnet was a 16 year old kid who fucked up delegating, now Uncle Chang and moon man have stepped in to be /our/ delegate

>>4780262
fuck off, tits and time stamp

>>4780119
Ohoho, Magnet... Now that's a name I haven't heard in a while. You see, it all started with a post and a discord server...

>>4780458
lel

>>4780262
There are no girls on the internet, not without timestamped tits. Now fuck off faggot

this i

>>4780186
fucked up my last post oops

graphs just go up and down, even if it's tending towards a specific trend, it will always look like it's about to go nuclear and drop to 0 which is where people panic sell

I'm just telling him not to panic if it goes down ~10% because he bought in way after the sharp increase in value

>>4779779
Good to see my original content still in use.

Well I just sold all my ark so I have to say we are at peak delusion

>>4780761
good shit, anon. keep it coming.

>>4780761
How much ark you got anon? I remember seeing that image floating around when we were under a dollar

>>4780119
magnet... we... we don't say that name around here anymore.

Sharkpool pays better than biz_classic

>>4781081
Sharkpool doesn't have the stability or technology biz_classic has

>>4781126
Like what?

>>4781126
strictly based on payout, biz_classic is slipping, I may switch vote when it costs less than an ark

>>4781161
well first of all moonman and chang are living memes who have faces and are already doxx'd, they can't fuck anyone out of money without losing out. the delegate has its own website with its own payout system and a faucet too.

>>4781178
it's still one of the all time best delegates for guppies and krill with only a few thousand ark

>>4781192
There's a pic of them laughing about denying payout to a voter. That doesn't happen with sharkpool.

>faucet
The one that pays .00002 ark per hour? Lol.

>>4781161
A website with daily, weekly and monthy automated payments.

>>4781226
WGAF. Sharkpool pays me every time I earn 5 ark.

The bottom line is sharkpool pays a better rate. Have fun losing out on free money cause you're stupid.

>>4781192
2k Ark magnet survivor here, 90% is cool but 95% is cooler...

>>4781081
Sharkpool pays the same as biz_classic but is more diluted so they pay less.

They also rely on 2 large whales are will drop out of the top-51 if they both leave.

Here are the stability numbers for the delegates where each whole number corresponds to how many of the top voters have to leave for the delegate to drop out. biz_classic is leagues beyond every other delegate and we're never going to drop out unless we fuck up enough for the top 40 people in our pool to all leave at the same time.

https://medium.com/@biz_classic/whale-proof-faucet-promo-giving-thanks-eee3baff6307

>>4777478
Still waiting faggot.

>$10 by december
Now >$10 EOY

Deluded arkies

>>4781262
Does your mom still eat shit out of toilets?

>>4781218
>There's a pic of them laughing about denying payout to a voter.
i know that shitty meme that dude was a scammer retard. chang returned some dude's 4k ark that he sent to chang accidentally and had no obligation to return. shit fud.

>>4781261
biz classic will never drop out of the top. there is way too much support for that.

>>4777969
a fat one?

you can literally see her fat gut

>>4781276
Oh it's heem.

>>4781226
>>4781192
You guys can ignore his posts then.

>>4781282
How was he a scammer? Be specific and use facts.

>>4778834
AKwFyca5WyGXCoAt5zSFD4jpypSm56jTAn

pls help

>>4781161
true block weight (meaning they can't get abused by pool hoppers), the only working Ark faucet on which voters get a 3x bonus, and they're around pretty much all day in the discord server if you have any problems.
>>4781218
>There's a pic of them laughing about denying payout to a voter
You talking about heem? He's the only person that's been blacklisted because he sperged out and insulted everyone over the fact that he was too dumb to vote properly and didn't get grandfathered status. Then like a month later he DM'd Chang and revealed the other wallet he was voting with, so they blocked that one too. Everyone was laughing about the fact that he was dumb enough to reveal his other wallet

>>4781292
Yup.

>>4781292
i had a feeling it was him

>>4781276
Go back to /sp/ faggot. Enjoy being forced to join a more diluted pool because you got kicked out of /ourdelegate/

>>4781298
>he
Why are you talking in the third person, heem? You're the only one who insults Chang's mom

>>4781322
Sounds shady as fuck. Glad I'm with a professional delegate like sharkpool. Biz_classic are immature losers.

>>4781354
>>>/sp/

>>4781262
that puts it in a better perspective, thanks chang you've still got my vote

>>4781354
Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>4781354
hahahaha the worst part about crypto is that, although it allows superior national socialist asian supremacists to become the new autistocracy to rule over the plebs and normalfags, it also allows human trash to gain a little bit too. kys

>>4781354
Well yeah, why would you vote for a delegate you're blacklisted from?

>>4781354

Biz_classic is legit and they will probably always stay within top 51 if you want a safe bet. But that doesn't change the fact their payout % is dogshit and they have an extremely over saturated number of voters so the little ark you get has to be split among more people.

biz pays 80% up to 90% after 1 month of loyalty. Where as there is several delegates sharing 90%+ from day 1 and most of them have no trouble staying within top 51. I'm currently in a 95% sharing delegate myself earning 0.8 more ark a day than i would with biz

Chang literally said in an interview that his mom scrubs toilets for a living and on more than one occasion she ate human feces for food.

>>4781561
we've all been there

>>4781282
Still waiting for you to explain how he was a scammer.

>>4781457
I've been trying to get moon to agree to reduce the 80-90% warmup from 1 month to 2 weeks. It's something we're discussing and running numbers for.

The reason we do this is to incentivize people to join and stay which is how we become the most stable delegate.

As for 95% payouts, that's something we are definitely going to do in the future, just not now because of how popular/diluted we're starting to become again after we moved over 150k votes off to biz_private. If our voters want to supplement their payout they can use the faucet where every roll gets tripled for being a voter. We've already had multiple jackpot wins where our voters got 15-25 extra ark just for clicking a button.

>>4781590
>jackpot wins
Lmao wow 2 ark oh man I can retire on those 8 dollars.

Lol stupid gook.

>>4781588
>he
Again, why are you talking in the third person? Look man, I've never said this genuinely to anyone on 4chan before, but this time I'm truly saying it genuinely: you're pathetic

>>4781561
wtf i love chang's mom now
...now kill yourself you spastic retard

>>4781613
How come I earn more money than you and enjoy a better quality of life than you, little bitch?

>>4780915
Had over 20k...now I am barely kissing 3k. Really fucked up on this one despite also making the "Pepe Noah and Sinner" image as well. Lost out on $170k in potential gainz. It looked like we were about to moon but then it didn't so I pulled out in an attempt to get to my goal of 30k and then I lost it all big time.

>>4781632
>better quality of life
>spent the last 5 months aggressively targeting a delegate he was banned from
Like I said, genuinely pathetic

>>4781674
Lol and you're whiteknighting for your internet friend.

How much ark do you even hold, little bitch? Post your address. I wanna laugh

>>4781612
Jackpot was 25 ark a week ago and is currently 15 bc multiple people won it faggot kys

you are unironically an asspie retard who will find a way to lose your money through your own crippling autism

Lol mad little bitch

>>4777830
>if it really pops off late 2018
hoping for this, i need more

>>4781721
>25 ark

Whoa man 100 dollars! That's what I make in two hours at my cuckjob.

>>4781612
>Literally crying about free money.
what a faggot.

>>4777068
It took 2 weeks to go from 98 to 98.25%
Which means it'll take several months for mobile wallets to come out.

>>4781612
Fuck you nigger

>>4781762
Clearly your time is important...you could always fuck off instead of wasting more of your precious time.

>calls other people mad bitches
>spends 5 months of his life bitching on an internet forum for being banned

>try to withdraw my 300 ARK off bittrex into my newly created desktop wallet so I can vote
>they want my full legal name, street address, and the last four digits of my SSN
w-were the bittrex memes true, guys?

were the "you can't cash out" memes true????

>>4781764
The only person crying is Chang.

>>4777394
I kinda want to be a top 51 delegate. I'd offer a 99% share, but I don't know how start up or generate 1.3 million votes. :/

>>4781711
>he's so unlikable he thinks anyone not lashing out autistically towards everyone is a white knight
I hope whatever's going bad in your life turns around for you, man

>>4780784
'wonder how long this guy is going to be hanging until they find him

Buybuybuy

>>4781803
Don't bother if you don't know how to write code.

>>4780685
I need it to drop down to at least 33000 and manage to sell it before it does so I can make up my losses from trying to do that during the last climb. Please dump it sir.

>>4781590
Hi, I'm one top 10 on biz_classic and have been with you guys since Sept. I don't really use the faucet.. when will 95% payouts start?

>>4781803
If you know code and feel like whoring yourself out and being called a scammer any time someone doesn't like what you do then feel free.

>>4781262
I love confirmation bias that makes me feel good about my life choices, thanks Uncie.

Will ark ever reach ETH prices?

>>4781612
That's 2000 USD in 3 years

Hey Chang what percent of the payment share are grandfathered Legacy Supporters supposed to get?
>>4781590

>>4781590

Yeah i can appreciate that not trying to shit talk you guys I was with biz for a long time and with the original magnet delegate before that.
What made me switch was I was close to finally reaching the 90% loyalty and I withdrew 2k of my 10300 stack as i needed to liquidate some cash quickly and it completely reset me back to 80% payout so obviously then id have to wait another fucking month just to get 90% (which is a pretty standard paying amount throughout most delegates nowadays)

I'd be fine with 90% and receiving all the custom payment schedules and features and support you get with biz_classic but the 1 month warmup period is just cancer

>>4781980
anything is possible. Ark isn't a ERC20 token, that means that 3 digit price is technically possible.

>t. 17K Arkie

Can someone shill be Ark please?

>>4782028
Ahh this answers my question about why I am at 80%.

>>4781793
Did you seriously not do at LEAST basic verification before you started using Bittrex? They very clearly state you cannot withdraw without either basic or enhanced verification, so you may as well make sure you're willing to do it and it actually works before you put money in.

t. Enhanced

>>4782028
What delegate has the highest payout?

>>4777129
And if it goes down from here, you can change the slope of your line! It's almost like it doesn't mean anything!

Shitty TA bashing aside, ARK is the only coin in this crazy overbought market that I can say is undervalued with conviction. In a sea of overvalued shitcoins, pump and dumps, and major coins struggling to keep up with the times (BTC and ETH), it's refreshing to hold a coin in heavy development to become the most versatile, bleeding edge decentralized platform on the market.

>>4779664
I put 5k in at 3.6 and had to watch it go down to high 2s. Man up.

>>4782049
see >>4782065

I've been at 89.96% loyalty for 5 (five) days now. Had enough of the jewish shit at biz_classic, stealing 0.04% loyalty bonus from me. Moving to calidelegate thankyou very much.
t- magnet survivor

>>4782028
I thought the site stated that the 80-90% scalar was done on a per coin basis. ie. if you hold 500 for a month, you'll get 90% on those 500, but if you move 250 out and back in the next day, 250 will get 90% and 250 will get 80%.

Did I misread it, is it bugged, or are you mistaken?

>>4782042
Damn congrats. I'm just 200 poor fag anon.

>>4782060
No, I am a newcoiner who moved $1000 worth of bitcoin into bittrex a month ago so I could trade shitcoins

I didn't put this $1000 in for steady gains, I want big numbers.... ARK was the coin I saw with what looks like the best possibility for that. As much fun as it has been swing trading, I think the best shot I have is to just let it sit in ARK.

So I figured if I'm not gonna be moving it around, I might as well vote with it so I could get some passive returns.... And now they want all my personal information. Goddamnit

>>4782120
Well my dashboard went back to displaying 80% loyalty with the lower stack of ark, i switched the next day

>>4782120
>you'll get 90% on those 500, but if you move 250 out and back in the next day, 250 will get 90% and 250 will get 80%.
This is correct. We tested it and that's how our system works.

I think >>4782028 is either mistaken or when we were in the middle of changing how the loyalty number was displayed on the dashboard.

>>4782138
Yeah I get you but they always were going to want it eventually. There was no scenario in which you weren't going to need to do that.

>>4781896
stop trying to "game" the market

you're not going to get rich by penny pinching the dips and crests. Just try to buy in before climbs and then switch to the next big thing before it's too late.

I literally haven't paid attention to hourly ups and down ever, all I do is try to find out what's going to go up next and swap over 25-50% of my wallet before it goes to the moon. I did it for IOTA and went from $800 overnight, then I did it for REQ and went up again, now I'm doing it for ARK.

if you want in just pull the trigger instead of trying to gamble.

>>4782172
It's kind of lame to be instantly reset like that even on a per coin basis though. Any chance you could put in a 5 day window or something where as long as the wallet hasn't unvoted and they get their coins back in before the 5 days are up they aren't reset?

>>4782197
I woke up and saw it spiking really fucking hard and in my sleep druken state sold off thinking it would be back down in an hour. Dumb decision but now I can't stop myself trying to damage control.

>>4781901
Not soon. As Chang said, we are currently too diluted and inviting more people will nullify the increase you would receive. If you take a look at the bottom delegates that pay 80 - 85%, some of them earn more than the top 5 that pay 95%. biz_classic counteracts this by having a faucet that allows active voters to earn effectively 95% or more if they engage with the delegate website. We find the faucet is a good way to reward active participants in our community.

As Chang mentioned here >>4781262, biz_classic also has the largest stability of any delegate ever and has never dropped out. Sticking with us is both safe and consistently profitable, as well as ensuring you don't get dicked by pool hoppers or exploiters. You should see how much ARK you lose to pool hoppers because of people being unable to stop them - it's always an issue that's brought up in the delegate slack channel.

The second most "stable" delegate, jarunik, has been knocked out multiple times in the last 60 days, for hours at a time. Every delegate below #17 on the list Chang posted will literally drop out from ONE voter leaving. We can lose /OUR TOP FORTY/ all at once and we would still forge. We have NEVER stopped forging. Our guarantee is that the hard work we put in translates into the safest and most consistent choice, compared to bouncing around as other delegates drop out, or otherwise fail their obligations

People seem to think we're screwing them over more than the reality. The highest paying delegate, using a sample of 2k, pays 0.06748 ARK more than us daily. That delegate is del. This is before faucet earnings or compounding interest, which NO OTHER DELEGATE tracks. If you look at the graph, del stops forging if just his top two leave, then you waste 2 ARK revoting. He has dropped out. We haven't. Like most delegates, he also doesn't keep a running balance. MOST DELEGATES /STILL/ DON'T HAVE PENDING. If you have less than a decent number of ARK, they will NEVER pay you.

>>4782133
they laughed at me when i bought in may. You'll get there. I have to say this is my comfiest hodl since ETH in late 2016

>>4782097
Not sure if memeing, but this is because of your pending amount. We're the only delegate that tracks your pending amount and compounds your interest on it. Every other delegate uses your pending for themselves and makes money off it by either voting for another delegate or themselves, earning off of your staked ARK before you receive it. We don't.

>>4782157
>>4782225
It shouldn't be resetting to 80%, there was a bug that caused that about a month ago which we fixed. I'll look into verifying that it no longer happens, but this is the first I'm hearing of it since the fix.

We cannot add a window like that, because we have had a ridiculous amount of exploiters even after TBW try to play various deposit tricks to game our system. What we are looking into is reducing the warmup window, however, to 70% starting but a two week window, which will get people to their full 90% faster while still punishing hoppers who try to get a few block's worth of ARK before fucking over a different delegate who doesn't use TBW. Hoppers don't get any "Free" ARK from us but they can fluctuate our position briefly as well as profit off other delegates after hopping to ours.

>>4782275
Me too. Thanks for the kind words. If you're feeling generous can you send a little to help an anon out.

AY2pHSMpeqUnft46Uu3dAZnAr2gY87E46v

>>4777068

LMFAO

LET ME REPEAT

LMFAO

ARKIES ARE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR THE FIRST BRANCH THEY CAN FIND WITH THEIR ROPES READY IN HAND JUST TO FIND SOME FUCKING RELIEF FROM THEIR PAINFUL EXISTENCE. IT MAY SEEM LIKE EVERYTHING IS SMOOTH SAILING BUT AFTER THEIR SHIT COIN DIPS TO 0 BECAUSE NOTHING ABOUT IT IS REAL, THEY'LL BE BEGGING FOR LANDFALL. NOTHING WILL SOUND BETTER THAN A TIGHT NOOSE AROUND THEIR NECK AS THEY SEE THEIR LIFE SAVINGS DWINDLE TO NOTHING. ARKVM IS LITERALLY ARK VIRTUALLY MEANINGLESS. POOR ARKIES I TRIED TO WARN YOU OVER AND OVER BUT YOUR DELUDED WAYS BROUGHT YOU A SINKING SHIP THAT YOU'RE STUCK ON OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF AN OCEAN OF SHITCOINS WITH NO WAY TO REACH LANDFALL TO TURN YOUR PRECIOUS ARK INTO BITCOIN, ETHEREUM, OR EVEN BITBEAN. VIRTUALLY EVERY CRYPTOCURRENCY WILL BE WORTH MORE THAN YOUR ARK WHEN THE WHALES THAT MANIPULATE YOUR COIN GET BORED AND MOVE ON. THERE ISN'T MUCH SUPPORT LEFT. VOLUME CONTINUES TO DROP ON SHITTREX. GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN ARKIES AND AT LEAST SAVE ANY SORT OF GAINS YOU CAN. YOU MAY BE ABLE TO AFFORD AT LEAST A MCDOUBLE A DAY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE WHILE YOU WORK HARD SUCKING COCK FOR 15 SATOSHI TO PAY FOR YOUR CARDBOARD SHACK UNDERNEATH THE 'SMART' BRIDGE. IF ONLY YOU'D LISTENED. IF ONLY YOU'D HELD BITCOIN.

POOR ARKIES

LMFAO
LMFAO

>>4782097
>>4782303
Just to clarify what Moon said.

As far as we know, every other delegate that has a float -- a pending balance they're holding for you before paying -- either uses that amount sitting in their delegate wallet to vote for themselves or another delegate so they can get paid for it.

We don't do that. biz_classic is voting for itself but its balance is ignored by our payout script. Instead, our float is added onto the balance you have in your wallet when our payout system computes your payout. So if you have 1000 ark and 20 ark pending, we calculate your payout as if you have 1020 ark. That 20 ark is pending and computed at 80% until it gets sent to you. That's why voters with pending balances will never reach a 90% on their dashboard and that's fine because we're crediting you with the balance you have pending with us.

>>4782376
lol

>>4782380
>if you have 1000 ark and 20 ark pending, we calculate your payout as if you have 1020 ark.
wew based didnt know that

Wanting my payout to compound was why I changed from monthly to weekly. Gonna switch it back to monthly to save on fees if my pay gets compounded for me on your end.

>>4782380
FUCK

>>4782376
wet benis in ur mouth,

no other wai 2 sai it

>>4782380
Why does all the best shit come from channers.

>>4782489
Honestly there's no reason for monthly to not be the default in this case.

>>4781590
How does one get 5x multiplier on the faucet?

>>4782380
>>4782303
Chang, Moon, sorry for being a brainlet, but I think you're the guys I could get a good answer from.
Anything to say about the Arkvm fud that's been spreading as of late?
e.g. >>4777168

>>4782514

laugh it up arkies it's worth the wait to watch

>>4777068
bittrex is a piece of shit exchange that disables verified accounts for no reason and then does not respond to support tickets for anywhere up to 3 months.

>>4782668
We're waiting for clarification on ArkVM stuff from the devs. ArkVM was only recently announced and the ARK team is generally shit at marketing/communication so we're trying to get a dev to answer our concerns about ArkVM directly - haven't heard back yet since France is several hours behind (or ahead).

Encoded listeners ARE a glorified shapeshift, I was the one who initially pointed it out. BUT if ArkVM is successful, they will be decentralized and trustless, which would make it a true decentralized exchange governed by the ArkVM hypervisor and would be a first for crypto. Shapeshift without a central authority is huge.

>>4782695
t. fudders

They make like a million dollars a day off their .25% trading fee, they aren't going to screw random people over for no good reason. They want your money.

>>4782698
Thanks, senpai, you're the best.

lol look at this scrawny dork. You know how easy it would be to beat this bitch down, throw him in a van and take him prisoner?

>>4782780
Wow biz_classic is run by chads.

>>4782733
well, they got it.

>>4782780

Making me money, works hard and part of internet history

Seems like a cool guy, would buy him a drink

>>4782698
You guys are based

>>4782698
is it too late to vote for you guys??

>>4781561
That's really inspiring. Chang's mum sounds based.

Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

>this nigga with the 12BTC buy wall
Is he trying to push the price up or something?

>>4782780
WOULD BUY THIS CUNT A BEER.

>>4783085
Probably. The whales manipulate this shit to no end on the exchanges, not even memeing.

That's a good thing though, it means they think it has serious value/moon potential.

I was considering buying 1k ARK but after reading all this delegate aspie mumbo jumbo and hearing a room full of screeching retards I'm just gonna... go

Wait, is TA real?

>>4782780
UNCLE CHANG you are a legend lad, keep up the good work, fuck this hating faggot

>>4784036
bye felicia...dont let the door hit you on the way out

>>4784079
All this delegate bullshit is going to destroy this coin. It's a shit system. It could crumble in a day. Human factor. Remember, aim for the ear not the temple

>>4784090
It's a great system, you just don't want to do simple research.

You don't even have to stake, it's just a side feature of the coin, just like how you don't have an obligation to mine Bitcoin.

>>4783737
binance feels just as manipulated as bittrex was desu,

>>4784090
Are you dumb it’s amazing..

Would you rather it was PoW and took an entire country worth of electricity just to keep the network running like btc ?

>>4784036
>>4784090

>>4782197
>tfw you lose 50 Ark because of a FOMO sell but then make 52 Ark back over the next 2 days by penny pinching dips and crests 32 times in a row without losing once
I think this is the sign to stop and never look back.

>>4784591
i just made 2 Ark's on this small dip. might as well make money if you can't sleep.

>>4784641
Yeah I got 8 out of that last one. Made lots of tiny gains trying to 'safely' trade all the 1000 satoshi waves over the last 2 days, but it's really not worth it because you're looking at a couple of percent at most while risking a 20% loss if it bull runs.

It's probably going to do some wild shit in the next day or two as well, glad I undid my mistake, but I think I should probably quit while I'm ahead.

Hey guys I got my Nano S and transferred my Ark successfully. I had issues with voting part, it wasn't going through and the thing ended up creating two accounts on my Ark wallet under the Ledger Nano.

2 accounts with different address but same device? First account has all my Ark but second one is empty

>>4784684
I hear you. That's good work though. I think if you see a good, clear opportunity along the way, sell some and make some. Store away as many as possible for when each Ark makes a real difference down the line.

>>4784724
Well the way I'm seeing it, I wasn't making $30 with that 8 Ark trade. I was making a potential $8,000 if this shit goes absolutely nuclear.

And yes, it's very hard to resist if you see what looks like a very opportunistic chart. Unfortunately at literally any time a whale can come in and JUST the fuck out of you by suddenly tanking or raising the market.

>>4784749
exactly.

>>4784749
>Unfortunately at literally any time a whale can come in and JUST the fuck out of you by suddenly tanking or raising the the market

This so much, I try have more ark by trading but it is so risky with those whales.
Also I could jump on other missions to have more money to put on Ark but Im also scared to have ARK moon without me

>>4784711
it does that automatically, ignore it. use the first address

>>4784815
>Also I could jump on other missions to have more money to put on Ark but Im also scared to have ARK moon without me
Yeah, this.

>wow I made 20% this week off shitcoinb, finally I can accumulate enough Ark to reach lambo land one day
>o-oh, Ark is up 60% today

Buy now or stay rich forever.

>>4784843
Alright thanks man

Lol chainlink got added to yahoo finance you dumb shit

>>4785139
So did Ark.

Fuck guys, sell and buy back in in a few hours

Huge dip incoming don't say I didn't warn you

>>4785243
yep

>>4785243
please explain, anon. poorfag here that wants to get in but can't due to ATH price

>>4785243
Buy now!

>>4785139

>>4785243
I think I agree with you based on the chart right now but I don't think my heart could take it if the opposite happened.

>>4785243
Never done it, never will. Too scared of getting burned. I love this investment and have been all in since day 1 in June

>>4785376
Which is going to happen eventually, could start now.

>>4785417
not yet

>>4785448
Yeah probably true, but I think I'm going to weather this dump.

>>4785243
Source?

>1 ark per month
could be worse...

>>4785466
meme lines

>>4785511
My meme lines don't show that

>>4785518
The lines indicate a positive break out upwards lol

Any chance of a dip to 33500 satoshis?

>>4785663
Anything is possible. If you're only just getting into it I'd suggest just buying, or waiting for a 36000 dip at most.

Really it could go either way right now (almost always the case...).

>>4785726
Why bother waiting for a dip. Buying now is better than buying when it's 40000.

>>4785745
I agree, I'm just saying if you were to insist on waiting for a dip I probably wouldn't wait for anything below 36000 with how it's looking right now.

>>4782380
>So if you have 1000 ark and 20 ark pending, we calculate your payout as if you have 1020 ark. That 20 ark is pending and computed at 80% until it gets sent to you. That's why voters with pending balances will never reach a 90% on their dashboard and that's fine because we're crediting you with the balance you have pending with us.

This is great info, but it raises one question: if you are a loyalty supporter, does the pending amount also get computed at 90%? It sounds like it doesn't when you put it that way.

Shouldn't it be 90% overall anyways for legacy supporters, as they are grandfathered into that rate? I am one, and my payout share is at 89.95% now.

>>4785769
>loyalty supporter
Did I miss out on something cool?

>>4785792
No. I've been voted since august and while there used to be a payout increase, that has since stopped.

>>4785792
Yeah. If you got in on biz_classic before they were in the top 51 and forging, you got grandfathered in to a 90% rate.

>>4785800
Anon seemed to be implying that people who got in really early get a fixed 90% rate. I'm kind of jealous.

>>4785815
>>4785814
fuck

>>4785814
I thought you get 90% if you stay for a month.

bought high sold low. It is now back high

>>4785466
My ass.

>>4785827
>>4785815
>>4785814
The 'grandfathers get a higher rate thing' was dismantled. Now, the way it works is that when you first vote you receive 80% payouts and every block (or day?) it goes up by one percent. This was done to discourage pool hopping.

>>4782380
>>4782698


Oy lads, I'm that deluded nigger that has been printing ARK bills.

I've finished most of the bills.
Next step that I wanted to do was to make paper wallet generator based on those bills.
It'll be a desktop app for starters, but I'd like to offer it in web format for /biz/ on biz_classic site , if you're interested.

The idea is to put seed words on the boarders of the bill, wallet address on the right side of the bill, and optionally qr code where the number is on the right side of the bill.

What are your thoughts on this?

>>4785243
This post aged poorly.

>>4786043
might as well put all your ark into papermeme money since they will both have the exact same value soon (i.e. none cause ark is a shitcoin vaporware project)

>>4785856
I read about the new loyalty system, but had the impression that the original grandfathered benefits remained as well. If this is true, does the rate on the pending balance also increase over time?

Again, quoting Chang:
>>4782380
So if you have 1000 ark and 20 ark pending, we calculate your payout as if you have 1020 ark. That 20 ark is pending and computed at 80% until it gets sent to you.

>That 20 ark is pending and computed at 80% until it gets sent to you.
So if I set my payous to monthly, will the rate on the pending amount increase over time, or will it still be calculated at 80%?

>>4786068

Your FUD only makes me want to buy more ark.

>>4785243
mm

BARK FOR ARK

BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK

BARK!

>>4786043
That's proper keen. Whats the intention, gifts? Shits and giggles?

>>4786110

Shits and giggles

>>4786068
>Varporware
>become one of the first cryptocurrency-based company getting a solid legal status in the world like one week ago

Bomb yourself to fucking oblivion, you troglodyte

>>4786093
If my understanding is correct it'll stay at the original rate. In any case I'd still set payouts to monthly such that you can save on tx fees.

>>4786189
If he's a rich nigga it might be worth the payout daily if the pending doesn't begin the journey from 80 to 90%, or when tx fees are dropped down to 0.01.

>>4786093
Just post the question every day until they notice, my guess is either yes or they'd be willing to change it to do so.

Saturnmission immediate.

Get ready fellow arkies.

>>4786189
Depending on your balance, if pending amounts are calculated at 80% rate 100% of the time, you could actually lose out on some Ark if your payout is set to monthly vs weekly.

It's happening.

>>4786471
More of her?

>>4786494
Enjoy.

This kind of random pump is the exact why trading Ark is dangerous

i'm noob to all this shit. the only coins i hold are btc, eth and ark. should i exchange some of my btc for ark, or wait for a dip in ark before doing that? or should i just not trade btc for ark at all? i only have 31 ark right now

>>4786541
Don't trade. Just buy and hold.

Some insider must have leaked knowledge and a few whales are buying, bringing up the price.

>>4786510

>>4786541
Yep, I literally stopped my day trading of it on that last long red wick too, rebought at 36200 after selling at 37000. Told myself I should stop because the ride would end and it looks like listening to myself paid off for once. Never again.

>>4786562
Try and get over 50 so you can at least get 3x faucet payouts. You just missed a good opportunity to trade into it though unfortunately, I have no real advice for you that isn't complete guesswork.

>>4786494

>her

>>4785243
FUCK you. FUCK. YOU. Holy fuCKING shit you just lost me 800 ARK you piece of fukcing shit person I hope you die in your sleep tonight you worthless sack of afterbirth. I hope a pack of n*ggers run a train on your wife and then eat your kids in front of you.

FUCK IT IM AN ARKIE NOW !!!!
500 ARK REPORTING IN

>>4787090
>selling ARK
>before it hits $500 in 2018

Why?

>>4787090
Don't try to time dips. Just hold.

>>4787090
You dun goofed

>>4787090
kek

>>4781262
>>4782249
the fuck is this
why is there no sticky
it's been a month I've been lurking and I still don't know how to start this coin game
you're all so cryptic
MUH TO THE MOON BUT BUY HI SELL LO

what the fuck are these pics showing

>>4787090

>>4787190
Most of us have been in the game for a while now.

Just remember to buy high and sell low and you'll fit right in

>>4787190
Don't wurry fwend , b/iz has got yer baAaCk

Step 1: Buy Cripto
Step 4. Sell Cripto
Step 3. Buy Cripto
Step 4; Sell Cripto
Step 5: Buy Cripto
Step 61. Sell Cripto
Step 7. Buy Cripto
Step 8; Sell Cripto
Step 19: Buy Cripto
Step 10. Sell Cripto
Step 11. Buy Cripto
Step 122; Sell Cripto
Step 13: Buy Cripto
Step 15. Sell Cripto
Step 7. Buy Cripto
Step 8; Sell Cripto
Step 2: Buy Criptp
Step 3: Let the market craash then be poor again

>>4786770
How does this work? I barely have above 50. I thought that to have 3x payouts one has to vote. But spending 1 Ark is really not worth it with such a low balance.

>>4786770
>>4787335

i just bought about 50 because anon recommended so (i have 61 ark now) and i have no fucking idea how the voting system works or anything like that

>>4781793
i did that shit with bittrex, took ages but i got my money in the end

>>4787375
Download the official Ark wallet (https://github.com/ArkEcosystem/ark-desktop/releases)), create an 'account' (wallet)[1], send your Ark to its address then vote for a delegate in the top 51[2]. For the love of god do NOT lose your passphrase, if you lose it you are FUCKED.

I recommend biz_classic, if you read this whole thread you'll see why, but you can vote for whoever you want.

If you do end up voting for them I recommend going to their website, making an account and setting your payout schedule to monthly so you lose less in transaction fees. Play faucet afterwards, maybe you'll get lucky and get 15 Ark.

[1] https://blog.ark.io/how-to-generate-your-own-ark-address-and-passphrase-5e4e1257ca5e
[2] https://blog.ark.io/how-to-vote-or-un-vote-an-ark-delegate-and-how-does-it-all-work-819c5439da68


Also it's worth noting that the cost of voting is planned to be lowered from 1 Ark to 0.1 Ark soon™. Could be a few months yet but if you have next to no Ark at all you may be better off waiting, do the math and check.

>>4780761

You made this?
Hope this does it justice.

Mobile wallet is going to be released on Friday. We're going to $10. Buy now.

>>4777068
please stop shilling ARK it absolutely does not need it

ArkVM won't be on the main chain but opt in for side chains. These sidechains are supposed to be bridged with ark so ark should still be able to make use of ArkVM.

The whole point of ark is that you dont have everything running on the same chain

>>4787918
Which is a good thing.

>>4787913
I kind of want to counter shill it to keep the price down so I can accumulate, but I just can't help myself it's so good I just want to shill for free full time.

>>4785367
Shoo shoo stinky linky

>>4779689
>btc
huh? btc? ohhhh I remember btc, that old barely functional legacy coin?

haha yeah im all set bro I dont want any btc. thats funny though

>>4787918
This is good though

>>4787918
ArkVM is for Smart Contracts right? Why is it being called a Virtual Machine, I'm very confused about that still.

>>4777068
have $500 of gambling money that I took from some crypto i liquidated last night.

was thinking of getting in on Ark now after looking into it. this money isn’t important to me so it might be worth the gamble

btw biz_classic, smart move putting that wallet rank# on the dashboard, makes me want to buy more ARK and climb higher, who wants to see their rank drop lower each day.

>>4787991
Yes it is for smart contracts.
Smart contracts are pieces of code that are run decentralized. They are shut off from the outside world/the system they are running on (security), hence you need a virtual machine. ArkVM will be a clone of the ethereum VM

>>4788040
But where is the VM being run? This is why I'm confused. I should probably read up more on how Smart Contracts work, all I know is that they can be used for things like atomic swaps (I think), by ensuring both parties fulfil their side of the deal.

Should I liquidate my measly 1360000 sats from csgo skins to ark? It looks too promising, I'm a newfag, but reading and watching the plans for ark makes it seem like it could replace a lot of cryptos. Hell like it could be as feasible use wise as btc and ETH.

>>4788085

https://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/27367/what-is-the-ethereum-virtual-machine

atomic swaps do rely on contracts but smart contracts are a bit different in the sense that you can code theoretically anything with them. a smart contract on ethereum / future arkvm is basically a piece of code that is stored on the blockchain and does something if you send ark/eth to it

How to get my first ARK to vote ?

>>4788301
Trade Bitcoin for Ark on Bittrex (or wherever) then >>4787497

You should do at least a little bit of reading on what voting is etc before diving in though, especially if you're new. It doesn't really need you to actively do anything other than vote once (minimum) but it's still good to know why you're doing it.

can someone plz explain to a total newfag how/why voting works? i have 87 ark, can i even vote?

>>4788143
Buy ltc/ETH on Normiebase, send it to Bittrex/Binance, buy Ark.

Or you buy it directly from litebit.eu

Time in the market beats timing the market

Don't try and swing trade these pitiful hills and valleys. Stop looking at 15 minute candles.

There is a tsunami coming. The release of the mobile wallet will be the perfect timing.

>>4788346
nevermind, >>4787497
explained it for me earlier i just didnt see it, sorry

>>4788346
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ark+crypto+voting

>>4788364
Wishing I sold at 42000 though =/

>>4788341
>good to know why you're doing it
becuase I'm ononomoose from /biz/ so I vote biz :DDD

>>4788414
I meant voting in general.

>>4787497
Arklet here.

Thanks for adding the bit about the faucet.

>>4782733
holy shit linger longer kiddo the bittrex scamming has been confirmed a hundred times over the past 2 months. Cant believe clowns are still defending that exchange, are you even old enough to know why people went to shittrex? its because Poloniex pulled the same shit Bittrex is pulling now.

>>4788674
I think you're confusing the definition of confirmed and reported.

>>4788429
I can't vote anyway I don't have ARK

>>4788685
first hand experience as well so im extra salty about shittrex, I was one of the first to post threads about it warning people to pull out. They must have made so much locking all those accounts, that paki kike claimed he only locked iranians yet myself and many other Americans were unverified. Doesnt matter anyways since theres plenty of competition. Only a fool would continue to use Bittrex.

>>4788745
Bitfinex has their shady Tether shit going on which I'm far more scared of than Bittrex _supposedly_ randomly locking accounts.
Poloniex requires a fucking webcam to get verified, fuck off Poloniex, fuck you.

>>4788685
first it was reported then thousands of others including myself confirmed :)

>>4788800
Not gonna buy your story until you start linking a lot of credible shit. Anonymous /biz/ posting isn't going to make me stop using the only easily usable exchange that has volume.

>>4788780
kiddo, all of those exchanges are dog shit, nowhere did I recommend any of them you autistic schizo

>>4788820
ohhh cringe, go to the fucking bitcointalk thread for bittrex you absolute brainlet, im done holding your hand, cross the street on your own now. Try fucking lurking a bit too jesus christ, threads were fucking everywhere when they shit went down.

>>4788857
>done holding my hand
Nigga you're the one trying to sell something, I'm not trying to buy. I'm not desperate for your FUD information, you're desperate to have me believe it.

All I see is misdirection and FUD so I'm just gonna call bullshit on your whole story, get out of my thread faggot.

>>4788874
>you're the one trying to sell something
[citation needed] you schizo

>misdirection and FUD so I'm just gonna call bullshit on your whole story, get out of my thread faggot.

what a retard, linger longer its already been heavily discussed.

Binance is the only exchange I can be bothered messing with.

Pretty keen to jump in to this after doing a little reading.
Only question I have is whether or not it's worth waiting around for a price drop or if I'm kidding myself and should just buy and hold

>>4789055
if you are really insecure, just take half your money and buy, and keep the rest incase it dips.

>>4789153
Yeah I was thinking that, cheers.
Also, I have a basic grasp on the dpos and voting concepts, just need clarification on whether or not you need a minimum balance to receive the forge share. Heard some people mention it but don't see anything about it on the delegate site

>>4789153
nvm, looking at the calculator makes it obvious

>>4789267
I don't think there's a minimum balance, but you won't get paid out until you have accrued at least 1.1 Ark due to avoid fees eating too much of it.