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477588 No.477588 [Reply] [Original]

How do you go about making $720/month online?

What sort of business, tricks, or websites would you make?

>> No.477590

Create any blog you want

400k per year easily

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>>477590

>400k blogging

>> No.477657

where to start? I'm ready

>> No.477662
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>>477588
Start a blog. I run a few successful ones but don't have time to do even a fraction of my ideas for great blogs. So here are some ideas for fucking free:

>diy blog about repairing bikes
>cooking blog about making meals for 1$ per serving
>coupon blog specializing in one category - baby stuff for example
>beauty blog + youtube channel written from a man's perspective
>tech blog + youtube channel written from a woman's perspective

These should all be fairly profitable. Try to avoid anything that would appeal to men in their 20s though. Launch them all and one will work much better than the rest, so run with that one

>pic related it's 1$ of eggs.

>> No.477668

>buy shit
>mark up price
>sell shit
>repeat

>> No.477689

>>477588
Lets Plays on YouTube and live plays on Twitch.

>> No.477696

>>477668
Go on...

>> No.477703

>>477696
you will never make it

>> No.477707

>>477689

Youtube is over saturated as fuck. Twitch will be a gold mine for the next few years, but will eventually also be overrun with content.

>> No.477711

>>477662
why avoid men in their 20's?

>> No.477732

>>477711
They're mostly unemployed, and have no money.

>> No.477739

>>477711

They don't click on ads, they don't buy anything, many of them know how to use adblockers and use them, if you sell a book or information they will find a way to pirate it and get it for free.

Many men in their 20s/30s are also nerds, which means that they have a strong internet culture and will also look for other sources for the same information, and will actually find them because they have some skills at the internet, wheter it's using torrents to download books or looking for youtube channels by number of subscriptions to detect quality sources of the same information.


Also, men in their 20s and early 30s are the main demographic of people making blogs for money, so if you target that market, the cances of your content being stolen and exploited by a person with much more knowledge than you on seo, I.M., and other related skills are higher than if you target any other demographic. Ad this to the said fact of the nerd/internet culture being more strong in this demographic and you're set for disgrace.

If you're into blogging, avoid targeting men in their 20s/early 30s like the pest, it's not only useless, it's even dangerous for your niche/business.

>> No.477770

I make about $500 a month online but currently expanding. Ill never tell my secret though.

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>>477770
Thanks for sharing that

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>>477739
>>477732
Here is a question for you. I was thinking about getting a brain pill formulated by a white label company and then having it ran on either an Affiliate Network, or finding some affiliates that might be interested and working with them.closely. Here is a question that I haven't had a clear answer to.

>offer pays $40 per conversion on each customer that buys one bottle of my brain pills.
>Customer also has a choice to buy two or three bottles during checkout to get additional savings.

Is the industry standard to pay the affiliate only for the initial conversion? Or do they partake in the upsell as well? I haven't been able to get a straight answer from other advertisers or from affiliates. What have your experiences been?

>> No.477811

>>477662
Anything that doesn't involve blogging/writing/appearing on camera?

>> No.477821

Go on 4chan
Become autist
Collect autismbux in first world country

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>>477770
>secret is he's a cam-whore

Mystery solved!

>> No.477827

>>477777

>> No.477830

>>477662
How do I attract traffic to my blog?

>> No.477831

Probeshional gaming

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>>477739
Yep your reasons are pretty much spot on except the "stolen content" part which you're just as susceptible to in any niche. You're unlikely to have your content stolen though unless you're already very successful.

>>477776
It's industry standard to pay full commission rate for ALL upsells. Even Amazon does this, plus paying you for every sale for 24 hours not even related to your affiliate link. Many affiliates pay you a commission on mailing list sales they make months down the road.

>>477830
Lots of ways to do this and it depends on the topic. I initially promoted a ton on Reddit. Moot promoted his 4chan on SomethingAwful. Reddit promoted itself on Digg. Just find a community to tap into initially. Long term traffic strategy is search engines which will naturally follow from promoting everywhere else you can. Don't promote on 4chan it's pointless.

>> No.477998

>>477811
programming if you can do it. List your skills maybe I can give actual decent advice. If you have no skills writing is one of the easiest ones to pick up since you have to do so much of it in school anyway.

>> No.478020

>>477995
>Even Amazon does this, plus paying you for every sale for 24 hours not even related to your affiliate link. Many affiliates pay you a commission on mailing list sales they make months down the road.

So I would be paying $40 for each additional upsell? Does the industry ever use a structure where affiliates share in the percentage of the revenue generated by the upsell instead? Not doubting you, I just want to understand it correctly.

Also, what do you mean by related to the affiliate link? Do you mean there is a cookie life of 24 hours if your cookie is the last one in and a conversion occurs?

>> No.478026

>>478020
the commission you pay is usually a flat percentage of the sale. Standard rates are 50% comission on high margin stuff like pharmaceuticals. Might even be 75% on digital downloads.

If the customer buys 2 bottles for 80$ each and pays 160$ total, the comission should be 80$.

Of course if you can collect the customer's email address and sell them a bottle 12 months from now, you could probably keep the full amount since it was you who "made that sale"

>amazon cookie

yes you've got the idea. Smaller affiliates like squatty potty amongst many many others have a cookie that lasts 30 or 45 days.

>> No.478031

>>478026
Understood...thank you for the reply. This was how I was thinking about structuring the sale.

>1 bottle at $70
>2 bottles at 130+free shipping
>3 bottles at 180+free shipping

My revenue would get smaller with each upsell while the affiliate's commission stays the same. It didn't seem fair, but if that is the industry standard then there is no changing it.

Let's say it is setup so it is a trial offer with monthly rebill. Would the affiliate participate every month on the commission as well?

>> No.478037

>>478031
You should pay a flat % rate such as 60% not a per-unit rate since you are offering discounts for extra items purchased. So buying 3 bottles would net your affiliate 108$, not 120$

It's industry standard to pay an affiliate each month for recurring billing (e-junkie is an example i can think of off the top of my head but i'm sure there are many others.) You could choose to just pay them a flat rate such as 100$ but I think most affiliates would work much harder for you and pay more for their ad campaigns if they can get the recurring billing customers set up. The most successful affiliate programs are the ones that treat their affiliates like gold.

>> No.478045

>>478037
Great advice. So most affiliates would be comfortable with a flat percentage structure? Also, I do understand that a rebill offer typically have a short shelf life. I have read that merchant accounts can get pulled after 3-5 months if enough chargebacks are made. How do I let the affiliate know when the game is over without pissing them off and not wanting to run my future offers?

>> No.478047

>>478045
>So most affiliates would be comfortable with a flat percentage structure?
yeah flat percentage is more common actually.
>short shelf life
yeah that's probably the case although I don't have that much experience running them.
To avoid rebills just allow people to cancel and don't be scummy about it.
If your affiliate knows the median rebill length upfront they won't be upset when a customer cancels. If you don't know right away just estimate 4 months or whatever.
On Amazon there's a line for returns that reduce your commission for the month. Just have it laid out in your affilate's dashboard.

>> No.478048

>>478037
Also, do you have any books or resources that you would recommend? I've read a few of Geno Prussakov's books, but they are pretty cursory when it comes to the material covered. And I agree, affiliates are like the golden goose when you have a solid understanding of what they need to help you run a successful campaign.

>> No.478057

>>478048
>Also, do you have any books or resources that you would recommend?
Not really, I've always been on the affiliate end rather than the seller's end. I'm sure there's a lot of introductory free materials over at e-junkie and clickbank which will at least get you started. Those are probably good markets to start in because they have a large network of affiliate marketers already.

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>>478057
Thanks again for taking the time to answer the questions I had.

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>>478065
lol sure as long as I get to be the big dude. email me if you have any other q's, in this industry you need a network of people doing the same shit as you to help you not burn out and bounce your ideas off of

lifeofvalescka@gmail.com