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>paid 800k for cancer treatment

Ahah oh God these americucks..
Actually, I'm sorry for your loss, it sucks.

>>4621453
NA healthcare LUL

family is for losers

>>4621453
800k for chemo treatment? fuckin burgers rofl

>>4621453

What sort of piece of shit third world country charges a sick person that much for medical care?

Jesus Christ, I don't even know what to say.

I had cancer and it all cost about 200€.

No fucking way.
You are LARPing.

800k would get you to another country and treat the cancer for less than $1000.
America sucks lol.

>>4621453

I am sorry for you loss, but this is why the USA if fucking shit. In Europe we would have collectively paid for your dad, because that is what a developed civilizational does.

>>4621453
damn being a burger is suffering, free bong healthcare is gr8

Was your dad an idiot who lived without private insurance? At least you are a good son OP, don't be your father.

Who was health insurance

>>4621453
;-;
godbless, anon
we're still gonna make it

I live in a civilized country where we don't have this problem.

>>4621453
Lies, but your point still stands.

Nice just absorbed 100k doses

>>4621453

so you had 800k and you planned blowing half of it on some toy? Where did you plan on living? Did you really think having a lambo parked on some shitty neighbourhood was a good plan?

And most importantly, you never thought of getting health insurance for your family or something???

An idiot dad with an idiot son. Should of gotten health insurance with your 800k faggot

>>4621453

Why didn't your folks have health insurance? Obamacare made it illegal to not have one.

>>4621453
Sorry to hear it buddy

>>4621489
>>4621495
>>4621501
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>>4621542

Yeah sadly my dad didn't have health insurance and he and my mom together only saved up only $400k for their retirement. Hence I had to pay out my pocket.

>>4621453
>muh freedums
>muh guns
>muh constitution

holy fuck america is such a filthy, backwards country
>pic related

genuinely sorry for your loss op, my old man had cancer too. 16 year old stomach tumor

>>4621556

I am really sorry you learned this lesson the hard way OP. Don't you ever do something like that to your family, never neglect on having everyone covered if you still plan living on that hellhole of a country.

>>4621503
This.

Europe, bro.

>>4621453
>$800k out of pocket for CHEMO
Was the treatment experimental or something? Sorry if this story is true, that sucks.

>>4621453
>>make $800,000 in bitcoin last year
>>was just about to move out of parents and get a lambo
>>and then dad gets cancer
>>paid $800k for his chemo treatment last year
>>still died, just 2 weeks ago
>>funeral was yesterday
>>now forced to move back to live with my mom because I can't afford my rent and lambo anymore
>
>Found out the hard way that $800k in life is still not enough. I hope those who make it in crypto realize that even if you become a millionaire you still need to prepare for family related emergencies like this.
>
>>inb4 hurr family is for losers

So you made 800k last year. So fucking make it again next year. WHAT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM??? GEEEEZE

you've got the BEST opportunity since the beginning of humanity to finally make a killing. It doesn't even take brains. Just HODL until all the normies start filling up the Crypto space and then CASH the FUCK OUT OF THIS PYRAMID!

>>4621556
>Boomers
Might sound like an asshole, but good ridance. This world will slowly go to the shitter as long as boomers roam this plane

Larp

>>4621453

>paid 800k to make his father's last days on earth a living hell

you got jewed hard son. Happened to my family too, so I know your feels.

>>4621453
kek

might as well have gotten cancer yourself

>>4621453

More a lesson why need to bite the bullet and pay for fucking insurances.
A lot of insurances are scam but the ones you really need are the ones that cover enormously high costs.

The insurance everyone needs is
>liability
Because you're liable with all your money if you damage someone. Accidentally drive over a retarded kid that just ran on the street? Enjoy paying his medical bills for the rest of your life
>health
Because a bad diseases will cost you all your money if you're not covered, like OP
>income
Unless you're a NEET you need a way to save your income for the event you can't work anymore

If you run around without any of these three insurances you're a retard who has it coming for him. All other insurances are optional, but these three you need.

>>4621453

Sorry for your loss man.

>>4621679

Fuck you, seriously. The fact that you would think, write and then post this shows you are a cunt. People like you are a greater problem than boomers.

1. Get out of the US
2. Pay your taxes

There are more billionaires per capita in "socialist shitholes" like Scandinavia than in the US.

>>4621506
You pay for Islamic nigger hospital bills too. Healthcare in the US is expensive due to massive government intervention in the healthcare industry not due to a lack of socialism. Governmental failures are not reason to give more power and purview over to the government.

>>4621679
You do sound like an asshole, plus boomers set up the foundation for everything good the world has today. This was a shitshow before them

>>4621716

>boomers set up the foundation for everything good the world has today.

Is this a joke

>>4621711
>Healthcare in the US is expensive due to massive government intervention in the healthcare industry not due to a lack of socialism.

This is what burgers unironically believe.

>>4621453
My condolences, I hope you now realize the importance of subsidized healthcare since the costs will fucking destroy you.

>>4621453
Are you retarded Im an Oncology doc, CentralEurope If any retard has that same problem, hit me up. For 50 k you get treatment in great Onc departments, with exactly the same medication but 20x cheaper.

Oncology is 50% scam

>be american
>get cancer
>take out a second mortgage so you can get chemically JUSTED one last time

>>4621453
how old was your father man?
sorry for your loss

depending on the age of the person, many times the treatment is not worth nor the price or the hard times the person will get.
If it happens to your mother and she's past her 60's, consider enjoying more time with her, put her on a strict healthy diet with sports and hope for the best, instead of giving money to chemo jews.

I know a dog that was given almost a death sentence with 2 tumors on its face, the owner was indicated to take every cancer treatment and shit, but she had no money. She started to feed her dog with broccoli and cooked meat, blended, so the dog could chew. Not kidding you, the dog got cured within 6 months and has been alive for 3 years since.

Health business don't want you to live, they only want your money.
Best wishes OP, go to the church too. Jesus loves you.

>>4621453
i feel you OP, my dad died february this year too on liver cancer, paid 10k € for medics and shit - no with my mom and a shitty house -10k feels very bad man

>>4621694

Thanks for the tip, but I don't think I'll be able to afford insurance now anyway... My mom is retired and I'm currently unemployed

>>4621453
Man that sucks, what third world shithole are you from that doesn't even pay for their citizen's health?

I'm really sorry for your loss, in both senses. If you are not LARPing, at least you made the money to pay for it though. I'm sure your father was very proud to have someone who was able to make so much money that they could pay for treatment in cash.

But hey, if you managed to make $800k in a year you can probably make decent money again. Don't buy a lambo though you retard, buy a nice home in a nice area and then worry about superficial shit later.

>>4621711
You have no idea what socialism means and I feel like americans are actually proud of such mindset

Medical care shouldn't hinge on a person's wealth. Everyone should pay a fair fixed % of their income into the same pot so that everyone can have the same level of care.

The problem with America is that the average person doesn't want to have to pay towards others well-being.

Sad but true. America is all about money and control. Ironically that freedom they all talk about doesn't actually exist and from an external view that they can not see, they might as well all be in chains desperate for money just to survive.

>>4621453

Massive respect to you, mate. And sorry for your loss.

I wouldve done the same thing

>>4621896
he basically lost everything

>>4621798

Liability insurance is alike a hundred bucks a year. It's really an insurance anyone should have.

Health and Income Insurances are the expensive ones. Don't really need an income insurance if you're unemployed, but health Insurances are cheaper the earlier you get in and with the less sicknesses you start with. It's really an insurance you should get as soon as possible as it becomes incredibly expensive with age.
Same is actually true for the income insurance.

>>4621453
>$800,000 for chemo treatment

Fucking americucks haha. The worst they will defend this
Had a leukemia during my childhood and my parents paid like 2500€ for the chemo.

>>4621918

If he could make 800k in 1 year then he can make another 800k

>>4621453
You did the right thing anon. I hope you can make the cash back somehow. Good luck!

>>4621892
It's because we are all so short sighted about the issue. Most people know free or cheap health care for everyone would be good, but very few people REALLY care about it enough to change it until it's too late and you need it yourself. It's understandable why people are resistant to it when it comes down to it looking at their income and taxes and realizing they can lose less of their money if they don't have to pay into it that year if they continue to oppose universal health care.

No life insurance as well?

i could have cured the cancer for only 50k
bad deal there

>>4621716
>set up the foundation for everything good the world has today
And sold it mid bull market to the chinks while taking loans on the head of their children to buy back. Only a dead Boomer is a good Boomer. Generation of cowards and fools getting born with a silver spoon in their poop holes

>>4621453
you are just a retard op.

the hospital cant refuse you treatment, especially if you walk into er. further more did you question what treatment the doctor was giving your dad? not every test is needed. a heart test doesnt help you when its cancer but doctors wont ever withhold a test if you think you want it, even if they know its pointless. also, why would you pay out 800k when you can use your parents money and then just have them declare bankruptcy. their credit isnt tied to you. also if you have 800k, you could have bought life insurance, or health insurance.

your entire family sounds stupid.

>>4621865
>>4621748

I agree with you eurobros, but you're still fucked by paying for all the nigger races you let in, in hordes. Hope you sort that out soon. We're fucked here in jewsa, maybe some states will make it but most are lost and deserve what they get. Entire country has been put under a spell by the jew.

>>4621711
>You pay for Islamic nigger hospital bills too. Healthcare in the US is expensive due to massive government intervention in the healthcare industry not due to a lack of socialism. Governmental failures are not reason to give more power and purview over to the government.

>>4621453
Sorry for your loss.

If you could manage to make $800K last year, you will do the same this year, fear not.

This time, you will be prepared.

Stay strong.

>>4621955
Everyone is a genius in a bull market.

>>4622119
When I look around and see people destroying their bodies through poor life-choices, it is natural to conclude that "free" health care (which is actually forcing others to work for you - ie slavery) will never happen.

>>4622119
alot of people are going to be fucked in the future. especially for shit like long term care which will murder your savings and your childrens savings.
Alot of people think theyll just up and die a quick death. But youre having more people just linger on and on in reduced states costing your or your children like $200 A DAY for someone to look after then, all because they didnt invest in long term care.

>>4621453
FUCK YOU LARPER
there are people that have actually lost their loved ones to cancer and you're trying to FUD crypto for some (you)s

>>4621556
why didnt you go to signapore? I dont understand you.

>>4622384

If society as a whole had to pay for health care, society would also be out to make society healthier overall.
This is also why you American's are so grossly obese. Because nobody gives a shit.
If you had to pay more money into the pot the fatter you are just take a wild guess how many people would lose weight instantly

>>4622384
works fine in britbong land, and other countries

burgerland is just ruined

>>4621453
Sorry for your loss.

If you could manage to make $800K last year, you will do the same this year, fear not.

This time, you will be prepared.

Stay strong.

>>4622430
yeah america strength is also its weakness and over litigious.
you cant fat shame people because youll hurt their feelings and theyll sue you for damages or youll be against their freedom of speech to ride a motorcycle without a helmet going 80 on a highway.
America will eventually get universal healthcare but not until the system crashes and burns first

>>4622391

Long term care Insurance is also a thing you know.

It's a thing I'd call mandatory alongside the health insurance

It's also an insurance that's pretty cheap if you get it while young.

Fuck I should work as an insurance salesman

ITT: edgy nazis.

get a life faggots.

>>4621506
>implying chemo actually costs anywhere near $800k

Sorry for your loss
Doesn't really help you, but for any other burger anon who might find themselves in the same situation, you could just fly to europe
It's very easy to make and win a case for inhumane treatment should they try to kick you out, to the point it likely wouldn't be attempted
Whatever costs you end paying won't even amount ton100k, let alone $800k

>>4621453
or you could live in a normal country and not in a shithole, assuming this shit is not made up

MegaLUL for this amerafags burgerland.

I had cancer i earned $4000 USD worth LUL.

>>4622384
> which is actually forcing others to work for you - ie slavery

what the fuck, how can you say this with a straight face?

I can't comprehend how fucking retarded americans are becoming, honestly. Are you so greedy you refuse to even the playing field even a tiny bit? Free health care and education enables a huge amount of people to live dignified and productive lives - these are people who would otherwise have no realistic chance of doing anything with themselves, simply because you think it's """"slavery"""" to pay 10-15% more taxes. Investing in these people will increase the quality of your overall society.

Taxes should be high enough that everyone has a fair chance to live a good life, and low enough to incentivize people to put in the work - your balance is completely askew

Was not your responsibility

laughing hard at americucks, so opposed to SOCIALIZED MEDICINE that you allow yourselves to get JUSTed hard by jews

>>4621453
My dad died 2 months ago because of a massive brain hemorrhage. Didn't even had the chance to say goodbye to him, he was instantly unconscious.
Now I'm left with about 100k in Crypto and a house. I'm still sad af. How do you cope with this ?

>>4622819
You make so much money in crypto, go into politics and bring the United States into the fucking 20th century with health care insurance to all. Bunch of degenerate fucks.

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>>4621503
he could buy insurance. that's the whole point of obamacare. even the biggest shitter plan would be cheaper. And even if he paid cash, you can usually negotiate cheaper payments. And if you live in any shithole city over 100,000 people there's probably several oncologists who have infusion centers they run privately.

>>4622870
I live in Europe

>>4621453
you are good person

>>4621453
That 800k was after taxes r-right? Because if it wasn't you might have to pay even more money to the goverment you don't have. You "fair share"

>>4621453
>be me
>emotionally abusive family
>kicked out at 17 because dared to call them out on their bullshit
>mutual hate
>haven't talked in years
i ain't giving them shit

>>4621955
Yep, OP is set for life. He's now making 800k/annum in perpetuity for the rest of his life, despite changing market conditions.

>>4622870
You sound like a retard liberal. Fuck off with your commie state welfare. I can pay for my own healthcare if I want or need it. Don't tax me because other fags can't take care of their own mess.

>>4623210
>Fuck off with your commie state welfare.

Yes anon, the entirety of the first world is 'commie'

>>4621501

No, it cost about $800k, you're just not the one that paid for it.

There's no free lunch, Eurocuck.

>>4623233
correction: the better part of the first world

>>4621453
Lol american healtcare, oh wait it doesn't even exists

>>4623255
Idk, I think if a country doesn't have state welfare, it's just a third world country.

>>4623245
Yeah, that's how the gov works, we gave a little of our share and in times of need we get it back.
I hope you don't get anything serious since the shithole you call land of the free couldn't give less of a shit about its citizens.

wow this board really is filled with normies. this painfully obvious LARP got so many braindead replies

>>4623245
Cope more, non white amerimutt.

omg, sometimes I think /biz/raelis are worse at economics than actual commies.

>>4623290
kill yourself

>>4623349
kill yourself shitskin amerimutt 56%

>>4621694

>accidentally a retard
>pay his bills

No, I live in the glorious Republic of Texas, where if you are breaking traffic laws and are struck and even killed by a motorist, the motorist is let off immediately

It just happened here in Austin a few weeks ago, some nig nog got bounced between two cars in an intersection and died, neither driver was even arrested

>>4623290

You mean the nation where your elites travel to receive medical care?

I mean, I know you're a brainlet, but you could at least bridge the gap with a little bit of effort.

>>4623233
Forcing everyone to depends on govt controlled healthcare whether they like it or not sounds pretty damn commie to me

>>4623297

My surname changes to Saxon 3 generations up.

I'm undoubtedly whiter than you. What's the matter, are you some kind of disgusting Aryan?

>>4621453
did your father have life insurance?

>>4623446
>nig nog gets run over
>drivers not charged
yeah, that's definitely because of Texas not enforcing it's laws

>>4621556
Why didn't you let him and your mom go into medical debt, file bankruptcy and then keep your 800k crypto? You could support your mom secretly.

Is this some cuck larp?

>>4623233
kek this.

burger brainlets don't understand how fucked up it is here. Can't wait to leave.

Just got back here from Japan - went to a hospital in Nakano had multiple blood tests, saw 2 doctors, EKG, and chest xray.

No insurance.

92 usd.

But yeah - the rest of the world is 'commie'. Stay deluded, burgerniggers.

OP is lieing, my dad died of cancer 4 years ago and chemo was only 100k. also chemo is a scam lmao

>>4623376
i'm euro you faggot

>>4621453
Of all the shit on this board that didn't happend, this happend the least..

>americans pay $800k to die

>>4621892
>Medical care shouldn't hinge on a person's wealth
Why not?

>>4623512

Why the fuck would you know anything about my glorious Republic that I wouldn't?

"However, according to Texas Transportation Code (TTC) Sec. 552.005, drivers maintain the right-of-way when the pedestrian is crossing:
somewhere other than at a marked crosswalk or an intersection; and
where an overhead pedestrian tunnel or crossing is available."

The laws here aren't structured to cater to fucking morons.

...... okay except the holdouts from the goddamn Christians

>>4623524
>Just got back here from Japan - went to a hospital in Nakano

I bet they made fun of you for your fatty blood, commie

>>4623522
This. Dubs of truth. Just take advantage of the system because it needs to collapse and the sooner the better.

>>4623524

>Mommy paid for my tests... I didn't pay from my lunch money.... so it was FWEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!111one

>>4623522
unless you get the bitcoin into cash directly, IRS will see the money flow in.. will they seize crypto if they see you paying tax on capital gain?

>>4623536
hey I'm swiss and you need to pay a yearly subscription to a company if you want to suicide legally

>>4621772
While your good will is great, you’re kind of talking out of your ass about healthcare. As oncologists we actively seek to discourage chemo trying to tear the cancer at all a lot of the time since we know it will be insanely expensive and do little to improve their lot when it is a severely progressed stage. That’s the main reason we stage them in the first place, to see if treatment is actually feasible or not

But try convincing the family that. Often times ppl are reeling from the horrific prospects of having their father or their child or their spouse taken from them. None of them are thinking logically or economically when that happens. They want everything under the sun to be down regardless of price of probability of success. It’s the same for nearly all terminal cases not just in cancer. I can’t tell you how much time I spend daily trying to convince family members to just put their loved ones in comfort care instead of needlessly prolonging their pain and suffering for huge costs that do nothing to improve their loved ones condition or suffering.

>>4623559
>eurochad

>>4623585
are you retarded?

>>4623528
if you're truthing, op probably googled cost of chemo per 2 weeks (30k) and made up the 800k number for a year.. sad to say but lol -_-

>>4623594
make them pay double

>>4623626
chemo is a huge problem nowadays, you're way more likely to be misdiagnosed just so they can sell you a 100k bout drug while they don't have to do anything except let you kill yourself by eating the drug.

>>4623607

You're incapable of comprehending the fact that you forced Japanese citizens to pay for your healthcare, brainlet

I recommend suicide

Maybe if you go back, you can make them pay for that too

>go to some large city
>cash out via localbitcoins in pubs and parks
>go back home

Why are americans with over 100k not doing this ? You can visit trump tower while you're at it.

>>4623679
true but i don't think it's intentional, the testing is still not effective and detections are average at best.. tons of false positives and false negatives

>>4623684
That's what modern civilized societies do. I'm sorry that you seem to think that's a bad thing. I more than made up for it by pushing thousands of dollars into their economy. Living in bumfuck Indiana must suck :*(

>>4621745

Not sure how its in USA but in our country people born 1940-1960 sold our country to build a socialist/communist "dream", then after revolution privatized what was left and sold it to russians.

Our country is dying, people don't have where to live, young people can't afford to have kids and we have to pay one of the biggest % taxes in the world just to keep this country, gypsy leechers & old people alive.

At this moment my generation have to work till ~75y to get pension claim for what we already paid via tx. (Its likely our system will collapse way before that)

Hhahahahahhahah fucking americans ahahahhaaha

>>4623294

We reddit now

>>4623245
i hope your fucking faggot country eats a bunch of nukes soon
healthcares in europe rake in a shitton of money if some one gets cancer they can pay this shit easy
because everyone pays health insurance per month for this exact reason

>>4623586
He is not fiscally responsible for his parents. He will have to pay capital gains tax but the IRS won't claim money from him because his dad and mom are in debt.

If your parents wrack up debt and you aren't cosigned on anything, you owe nothing.

>>4621748
It’s true. Pharms charge whatever prices they want because they know consumers don’t care. Why don’t they care? They’re not paying for it - Uncle Sam is. Or perhaps their insurer is.
With no incentive to lower prices pharms are as expensive as possible.

Chemo is even more of a scam than BCH.

>be from america
>go bankrupt if cancer'd
>be from europe
>get massive taxes but free chemo

You CAN'T win. It is a scam no matter what. You NEED 10 million to be happy and safe, since it would be enough capital to get legit neet passive income, enjoy a mansion a lambo and models and get anything non planned like cancerfag paying a visit to your or someone else from your family.

10 fucking million dollars. Everything else is death. I need BTC to hit $500,000 for that FUCK. There's no way to escape the capitalist ponzi scheme.

cool larp, sweetie.

>>4624729
> You NEED 10 million to be happy and safe

????????????

>>4624729
>lambo
>models

No thanks, I just want enough money so normies leave me alone doing my own things

>>4621563
Medicare covers chemo
Obamacare was in full effect by 2014
could be purchased after diagnosis of cancer

Op is either a Mexican
or
LARP

>>4621453
800K?? you should have bought a TDI golf, made it reliable and get 90MPG, bought a 200K dollar home somewhere outside the city, put in a 150K into it work, mortgage it and coast off that while you get grocery money trading funny money on the internet.

Also you're dad should have just let his credit take the hit, they will still treat you lmao, you can just not pay it back and be untouchable for credit anything.

>make $800,000 in bitcoin last year
Doubled in 2016
Invest $800k
Make $800k
...
What happened to your original $800K?
Can't you use that money move out from mom's basement?
Also
you know If you would have left it in BTC it would be worth over $8 million now

>>4621453
Larping or not you did it once and you will do it again.

>>4621563
OP is clearing LARPing. And your 'Murica is so backwards shit is a completely retarded opinion. I live in Canada where we have single payer health care, and our health care sucks. I would rather not have the government take from me every month to pitch into this shitty program so that I can then use that money to pay for insurance of my choosing so that I can then go to hospitals of my choosing. When hospitals are run like a BUSINESS and not a government branch the service is far better and the nurses don't treat everyone with contempt at all hours.

>>4622423
What's special about it?

>all the retarded europoors who believed op's story

The naivety of europeans is fucking hilarious. I imagine your vision of American healthcare is you walk into a Wild West saloon, get shot for trespassing on private property, then get charged $1 million for medical treatment and $1 million in legal expenses for Lawyer Goldblattstein.

>>4625523
>and the nurses don't treat everyone with contempt at all hours

that wouldn't change at all, brainlet

you're talking as if they were working for free either way, it can be a miserable job no matter what

>>4621453
Biz ate my post so I’m just gonna reword it again really quick


The American healthcare market has a big market failure that was legislated in, the fact that the Firms aren’t allowed to turn people away for lack of money in emergencies. This means we are spreading the cost of the most expensive treatment option (last minute emergencies like organ failure) rather than the alternative that everyone else does (spreading the cost of preventative care). Either you get rid of the requirement for hospitals to always admit anyone in the ER, or we go full NHS. Republicans are just trying to hide the fact that they need to repeal that requirement because of how stupid unpopular it would be, no different than how Dems need to lie about not revoking the Second Amendment if they actually want to see a decline in gun deaths in America

>>4621453
Sucks to be you. Hope you saved about $400k for the taxes this year.

>>4621453
damn bro sorry for your loss lad, let me send you one ark, ive only got 250 but sent me your wallet adress, it will be worth a fortune some day to..

you did the right thing man at least you tried, if you didnt you would have been been wondering what if for your whole life... really sorry for your loss my thoughts are with you.

>don't have health insurance
>ruin your family's life
your father is a real piece of shit. I bet he didn't have life insurance either, did he?

This can’t be true. I refuse to believe it. Why is the world so cruel

Jesus christ it sure is reddit in here

OP's dad is retarded for not having health insurance in the first place. Commies ITT are just poorfags

Btw I'm European, nationalized healthcare is garbage

>It’s my right to have other people pay for my healthcare

>>4626235
It's just leddit refugees, don't bother

A business board advocating for universal healthcare, jesus christ. This place has gone to the dogs

>>4621453
>$800k
Man, have cancer somewhere else. You get to move out to new place, experience things.
800k for treatment sounds like fucking lol system you have there

>>4622898
nagger

>>4621453
haha faggot

insurance is free if you're not retard

>>4621771
american dream

>>4621453
man if you aint larping you probably the only person with dignity and family value on this board.