/biz/ - Business & Finance

Why didn't you pay initially?

(You scumbag.)

>why dey garnush u?

I allowed my mother in law to do my taxes for me, she said she could get me 7 grand back. I got 7 grand back and gave her half
> turns out she claimed her two youngest kids on my tax return.

>>441322
I didn't know. Apparently they've been sending mail to my moms address and she didn't think it was important. I apologize in advance if I come off as short or lacking in grammar, as I am on my cell phone also biz is slow

>>441326
You can't make this stuff up!

>>441329
Yeah... and the irs didn't like that one bit. Here I am s tuck paying 11k. She's a broke welfare queen and has no money. And I'm not going to point the finger at her, her home is in foreclosure and I am not going to crush her even more by snitching.

There are no smart goyims or purple who have been in this situation before?

>>441350
>smart people
>been in this situation
pick one

Why is no one on /biz/?

Anon, how come you didn't notice? It's your tax return, you're supposed to review and sign it before it's submitted even if another person did it for you. Honestly, if someone claimed kids that are not mine on my tax return, I would notice right away and demand a correction. But the fact that you gave her half of your "refund" means you probably knew what was up. By the way, what did you do with your half?

>>441394
She did it online. She asked me for all kind of info and I willfully gave it to her. Half was just her finder's fee if you will. I blew the money on frivolous things. I never had access to that amount of money at once before, and it showed in my management of said money.

>>441418
You're on the hook. You are responsible for your own tax return, even if it's prepared by an accountant. You couldn't rat on your mother in law if you wanted to because of that. My advice is to pay in full - the IRS collects with interest.

PS: You have some serious fucked up sense of morality if you think that it's admirable that you won't 'rat' on a lady who willfully fucked you out of $11k and took like $4k of it for herself.

>>441370
>>smart people
>>been in this situation
>pick one
Meh. I've taken aggressive positions on my taxes for years. Been through 7 audits in the last 2 years and probably 15 total in my lifetime. I win most, and I lose a few. I'm ahead by low-figures all things considered.

But if you're going to dance the dance with the IRS, be prepared to pay immediately if you lose. OP lost. Time to pay.

>>441370
>>smart people
>>been in this situation
>pick one
Meh. I've taken aggressive positions on my taxes for years. Been through 7 audits in the last 2 years and probably 15 total in my lifetime. I win most, and I lose a few. I'm ahead by low six-figures all things considered.

But if you're going to dance the dance with the IRS, be prepared to pay immediately if you lose. OP lost. Time to pay.

>>441423
Lol you make it sound so fun!
>>441419
Yeah, I know...

Anyway I did some google trawling and perhaps if I contact them asap I can get a payment plan put in place instead of them taking half of every check. I hope it works

>11k in tax debt
>has a fucking mortgage
>baby on the way
>$390 weekly income

jesus christ man what are you doing with your life

>>441423
15 audits? my word....how is your anus? You seem to have come out on top....

>>441454
Nothing right obviously. I don't have any education outside of high school, but that's not to say I'm completely stupid. I'm (humbly speaking) of above average intelligence, though obviously smart enough to make the correct decisions with my life

>>441370
>>441350
>>441322

Not true. Smart people can and do get in this situation.My dad was poor and when my parents divorced, the court hired a "minors counsel" lawyer to advise the judge on what custody arrangement we - the kids - would benefit most from. Scumbag "counseler" sided with my scumbag mother, so my dad refused to pay him. How can you own court-appointed lawyer fight AGAINST you in court? So they garnished his wages the maximum that they could, something like 25%.

captcha: wages msual

>>441470
It ended up costing him over $40,000 btw.

>>441473
Ouch

Around 1990 my dad owned an auto supply business. Everything was sold on credit. When the recession hit, 11 businesses that he sold to went bankrupt. They never paid, except for a few thousand here and there that the mafia collected for him (side story - my dad gave some equipment to a mafia guy when he was setting up his own business. A few years later said mafia guy was headed back to prison and didn't have the money to pay my dad. So he asked my dad for a list of deadbeats and sent some guys around to collect.) Anyway, the IRS said my dad owed taxes on the sales he never got paid for.

My dad transferred all of his assets to other people - house, a dozen cars, and a half dozen rental apartment buildings. The IRS went after them all and had control of most of them for several years, but eventually my dad managed to keep everything except for the property the business was on (now long since bankrupt itself.) The IRS tried to attach 100% of his wages. He ended up getting a real estate license and was paid on commission. Then he went into loan origination, first for IPI Financial, and then freelance. That was all on commission and he set it up so that the money was being transferred around through attorneys. The IRS knew he was getting paid somehow, but they could never figure out how. No regular wages means the IRS can't attach anything.

The court battles were made for TV. The IRS attorney had never lost a case. My dad had a crooked Jew attorney who owed my dad a favor because my dad hid some assets for him during a divorce. My dad's attorney ended up suspended for 3 years and the IRS attorney was fired.

The IRS was supposed to have 7 years to collect, but they kept filing extensions and it turned into 15 years. He was finally free of them in 2005. The IRS even contacted me a few times after I turned 18 looking for another angle. During the court battles he brought in our congresswoman and one senator (Chris Dodd). Dodd told him he should write a book about it.

>>441481

Of course, the IRS was after my dad for 6 figures in 1990 dollars. You might not want to go through that for $11,000. Just get a lawyer and negotiate a payment plan.

>>441481
Holy shit. That's bad ass and scary

>>441460
Hehe. I lost the last battle, and just wrote the check for the penalties and interest. So, yeah, that sucked. Plus, now I have to be on my best behavior because I suspect I'm on their watch list for the next two years.

You are the epitome of a goy

>>441326
>mother in law does taxes

>>441339
>shes a broke welfare queen

Everything that happens you deserve, rot in hell faggot

you're a dumb fuck, enjoy your debt, you earned it.

Abolish the irs fuck taxes.

>>441468
Haha, you are not above average intelligence.

>no further education
>syntax is all retarded
>let a woman do your tax returns and didnt even look over them
>mortgage
>baby on the way
>dirt poor

How can people like you delude yourself into thinking you're smart? You need a fucking reality check.

>>441617
I suppose being financially competent is your gauge for intelligence?

>>441631

That's probably one factor. But everyone genuinely believes they are "above average intelligence" when in reality they aren't. You don't consistently make bad decisions and still try to claim you're "smart".

>>441634
Well fuuuck. I'm stupid. I've been stupid my entire life. That explains alot. I appreciate you enlightening me. Honors and high act scores must not be a gauge for intelligence.

>>441641
Book smart and common sense are two completely different things.

>>441647explain to me what intelligence is. Is it an aggregate of these
two?

>>441649
From "Mainstream Science on Intelligence" (1994), an editorial statement by fifty-two researchers:

"A very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings—"catching on," "making sense" of things, or "figuring out" what to do."

>>441641

If you're really smart, then why don't you make smart decisions? Why are you in dumb situation because of your dumb decisions?

You read a book and remembered it better than most kids who didn't try. Congrats. And look at what you have to show for it...Fuck nothing.

If being smart means making stupid decisions and ending up where you are, I'd rather be the stupidest man alive.

OP you should contact them and try to make an agreement

State that you have made a mistake and that you are willing to pay back, but that you can't pay the full amount and ask for a 12-24 month payment period of smaller amounts

problem solved

>>441326
>>441326
wow m8

protip: there is no way you can get a bigger refund than you deserve, unless you lie on your return. or you make millions and hire a tax lawyer who knows expensive and dangerous tax loopholes.

>>441326
>I allowed my mother in law to do my taxes for me, she said she could get me 7 grand back. I got 7 grand back and gave her half
>> turns out she claimed her two youngest kids on my tax return.
>>441468
>I'm (humbly speaking) of above average intelligence

l m f a o

this is my favorite thread ever

>>441454
>>$390 weekly income
Read that pic in OP again, it says $390.38 biweekly, which is about 10k pa.

>>441454
Man and I thought I was an idiot when it came to money.

>>441814
What's even funnier is that he paid his mother-in-law with no credentials $3500 of his own money when he could have paid a professional accountant like $100-150. Even if he only got half the return, he wouldn't owe the IRS $11,000.

I'm not usually one to pile on, but why did you think it was a good idea to get a mortgage and have a kid, OP, when you make McDonalds money?

Op here. Called irs. Got it down to $136 monthly. And even though I only make 22k a year it somewhat gets me by. Being poor Ida challenging but do-able

>>441318
>>441339
>>441326
>>441468
>I'm (humbly speaking) of above average intelligence
>I allowed my mother in law to do my taxes for me
>She's a broke welfare queen and has no money

>>441481
your dad sounds like the man. i'd like to see an old photo of him during his prime.

>>442139
http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/

>>441481

Every interesting man has a massive honest streak, a giant reserve of "fuck you" and a couple of friends on the supply side of crime.

>>442139
Dude, I'll throw you a bone - it's possible that because you jacked up your return that they just charged you the full amount of the return, plus interest and penalties. You should hire an accountant to recalculate your return and amend the paperwork if there's money to be saved. The IRS won't help you or recalculate your return for you.

Normally I'd say just research and do it yourself, but this topic is clearly over your head.

>>441326
>tfw I don't know enough about taxes to know why this is bad or not

>cousinterrioatpopeyesstandingandholdingadrinkwhilelookingaroundnervously.webm

>>442139
>20k a year
>above average intelligence

>>442572
I read a post on another site, the other day, about a manager interviewing a homeless person out of pity, to find he had a masters degree and spoke six languages. You can be smart and poor; it's the other stuff the OP is doing that makes his intelligence questionable ;-p

>>442034
This

1000 times this.

>>441468
>tfw don't even have a high school diploma yet my net worth is just below half a million

I would laugh at you, but goddamn does adult education suck. Almost a year of schooling with the most degenerate people in my fucking city.

>>441481
Awesome story, saved. Did your dad ever get his assets back?