/biz/ - Business & Finance

fuck off neckbeard jordan belfort wannabe

i wish that movie was never made

the board's mostly young people (aged 18-25) bantering about which major makes the most money, people a little older who think they know shit because they lived frugally on a ~80-100k salary for their working lives to hit the million mark, kids who think that bedroom daytrading can make more than enough to support them (including btcfags), and neets who come hear to make enough to support their neet lifestyle without breaking their microscopic comfort zone, similar to how fatties go to /fit/ but won't read the sticky.

The most you'll see here are older people who haven't lived + have saved their whole lives, or kids who inherited money from their parents.

People who "make it" don't come here.

>>437771
How long did it take you to figure that out?

Sometimes its fun to come here if you're a trader and you want to see what pink sheet some NEET is investing his life savings of 500 dollars into.

>>437771
this board's not bad at all. If you want to see rich people and drool over their golden dicks download Instagram faggot

why do u think ur gonna find successful people on 4chan of ALL places

>>437771
>ITT: if you're the Real Deal, post timestamp with Rolex or Mercedes S-Class or Hamptons oceanfront vista

OP confirmed for dumbass sophomore finance* major who thinks GSElevator is an accurate representation of Wall Street life.


*I bet you even pronounce it fuh-nance, you turbo faggot.

>>437771
>Rolex
>2014

>>437786
>>437799
You're both too pessimistic (not something I say often). There are guys in /o/ that own Ferraris and Laborghinis--some even purchased new--and so there have got to be at least one or two successfulfags here.

>>437809
Satirical stereotype

>>437771
i have the coolest car in this thread

>>437820
k

>>437821
i will show it with enough demand. its a rolls royce

>>437771
>throwing out the baby with the bathwater

20% of threads are ok and discuss various things like basic economics, books, events, stocks, business ideas, occasionally a wild pro appears and says something clever, but mostly amateurs because yeah, this is 4chan and not the boardroom of goldman sachs

>>437075

20% of threads are "lol 19 year old with $500 and a shitty job plz halp" "help me with my resume/interview" or "what major should i take" kinds of things

>>436400

20% are shill threads, neckbearded maybe but not Jordan Belfort wannabes, the wall of wolfstreet is the stuff of ridicule on /biz/, it is mainly crypto currencies or occasionally some new multimarketing scheme or an obvious dump and dilute, pump and dump or some other scam like CYNK which most people see through instantly then talk about because it is interesting to watch these things to see what happens

>>435850

20% of threads are meta bullshit and feels threads like this one

>>437771

it is as though /r9k/ is spilling over into /biz/, I've seen it all before, there is a thread like this on /fit/ right now, it is meaningless

remaining 20% is random, like this, sometimes good, sometimes bad

>>437753

>>437824
what did you do that allowed you to get a rolls royce? Any advice for those who want to emulate you

>>437771
I don't know what else you expected considering most of 4chan is age 18-25 and most of them in college. While it's not unreasonable that there are some old people who have made their money here, or some young people who were both unbelievably smart and played their cards right to make an early fortune, its still mostly people who have yet to even enter the working world.

Would you expect reasonable businesspeople/professionals to browse 4chan considering it's reputation on the internet and /biz/'s relative newness?

>>437771
Where is your Rolex or Benz picture OP?

>>437833
its mostly about saving what you make, then using your money to make more money.

just as an aside too, lots of peopel talk about daytrading on here. in reality, daytrading is pretty much a fools game. find good cash flows (like a high barrier of entry profession) and then use money

Nobody who has "made it" is going yo come here. That said, people who want to learn or otherwise want to discuss business topics, investing, personal finance, etc. can still do so constructively. You don't need to be a millionaire to have a civil discussion about these things.

Challenge accepted.

>>438097

>presidential Rolex

Either fake, or you are the gaudiest person on this board.

>>438097
>plastic floors

>>437771
>inb4 wipe bragging his father in law's money

i made about 4k from 2 trade today

>yfw ever time obama speaks its money time

>>437786
/thread

>>437786
i agree when im soon to turn 21 and when i 1st came here when it was made i was like w00t like minded people to talk about stocks etc
>fast forword never trust advs online
>spend like 2 weeks looking up info
>one night spent about 10 hours fineing a good system
>now useing it to make about 5% high on most days
>still summer time cant wait to try it on normal maket
>im a * bedroom* trader

>>437786
this

>>438139
That's Italian tile flooring numbnuts.

>>438208
Why does the little jew take the big jews hat?

Also source...?

>>437771
Why do people here hate those who inherited money so much? My grandparents went from being poor to being millionaires due to living frugally. I'm receiving like $800,000 and I'm not spending it. I'll be working, and just retire early. I'm not going to go buy fancy cars or watches that cost so much because frankly, I'm happy with my ten year old Mustang and $160 Fossil.

>>437771
>Gaudy consumption is a marker of true success.

No. Most people will never be wealthy enough to afford Rolex and New-Money bullshit pushed to you through television advertisements. Even if they were, what does that say about us as a society where we measure the success of our life by how many status symbols we can buy?

When was the last time you read a challenging book OP? When was the last time you thought about life experience and the reasons for man's existence?

>>438221
It's kinda like the hunt without the kill. It's more interesting to hear about a man who went from nothing to everything, rather than a man who had it poured into his lap.

>>438224
Well, my story is half that. I went from growing up in complete poverty without a father to being able to invest money and possibly open a business in the few coming years and what not.

>>438226
>Grew up in complete poverty
>Millionaire Grandparents

Am I missing something?

>>438231
It was just my mom and I, dad was never around, but he was the only odd one on his side of the family. I was very close with my paternal grandparents.

Anyway, my mom lost her job for two years, dad didn't do jack shit to help. My grandparents helped us pay our rent, otherwise we would have been homeless. I know what it's like to be poor. But the money they have was set up for me to help with college and after.

This is my fridge- Google prices for "True Manufacturing" refridgerators

I don't spend my money on jewelry/watches/cars(live in nyc) or stuff that doesn't provide an income stream, add value to existing assets or appreciate in value.

>>438250
Why do you have a culinary kitchen grade refrigerator in your house?

The only way that make financial sense to me is if you sell your house with the appliances, and a nice kitchen with top of the line appliances is major selling point.

>>438250
>I don't spend my money on jewelry/watches/cars(live in nyc) or stuff that doesn't provide an income stream, add value to existing assets or appreciate in value.

you sound like a boring miserable jew cunt

jesus

>>438255

Most successful people don't waste money on consumerist garbage. Read The Millionaire Next Door if you haven't already.

PS: enjoy your poverty.

>>438250

>not knowing how to spell refrigerator

>>437771
>ITT: if you're the Real Deal, post timestamp with Rolex or Mercedes S-Class or Hamptons oceanfront vista and then maybe stick around to answer questions or something

It is unfortunate that some people judge others by their choice in foods, beverages, suits, watches, motor vehicles, and such. To them, superior people have excellent taste in consumer goods. But it is easier to purchase products that denote superiority than to actually be superior in economic achievement. Allocating time and money in the pursuit of looking superior often has a predictable outcome: inferior economic achievement.

pg28 Millionaire Next Door

>>437783
Me too. unrealistic really.

>>438264
>To them, superior people have excellent taste in consumer goods.
Nigger rich.

>>438254
>The only way that make financial sense to me is if you sell your house with the appliances, and a nice kitchen with top of the line appliances is major selling point.

Pretty much

>>438260
>Millionaire Next Door
>ultimate pleb bullshit

ya no thanks grandpa

Y O U R ' R E
O N
4 C H A N

The only "real deals" here are Wipe and that other dick nozzle, Millions or whatever his name is.

Wipe, because his step father gave him $100,000 to "play with" in the stock market and was raised by a wealthy family and is also married into one.

Millions because he got lucky and got a cushy as fuck corporate lawyer job where he earns something like $500k/year.

Neither of them really deserve it, but unfortunately they have it and they know more about investing than most of the retarded children here.

>>438267
You mean the guy that made Goodfellas also made a film about Wall Street that was unrealistic?

>>438178
>Demo Account

>>438341
>useing MT4 for more then a tool
please tell me you dont do this

>>438322
iHaz is retarded as shit. He has been proven wrong over and over. I am surprised he isn't broke yet.

>>437786
>People who "make it" don't come here.
There are some few. The marketing guy who was making 5-10k a day gave a pretty good AMA

>>438208
>one night spent about 10 hours fineing a good system
Care to share it?

>>438453
TA3 IS about to be out but this is who is teaching me awsome place to be still new at it tho but for some reason im just good at ichi
>also helps to have awsome people in a skype group

>>438458
oops forgot link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W68OnRuWwMI

>>438458
>also helps to have awsome people in a skype group
Can you share the Skype group?

>>438460
you have to talk to Bryan on that his system is $100 but wroth it
if you watch the vid he gives his skype name and he will add u so u can hang for a few days if you wanted

>>438462
>$100
Stopped reading there

>>437771
>Pic semi-related
>If you're the real deal
>Posts a picture which would not indicate he is
>Thinking anyone is going to want to advertise themselves using 4chan
These threads always turn into a bunch of namefag circlejerks anyways.

>>438462
So just a /biz/ scam?
Interesting, count me in, just sent you my email.

>>438216
It's their source of power

Let's choose our name first

http://strawpoll.me/2294544

sucks to suck boys

>>438671
>paying $25k for jewberg's regurgitated public info
>getting snooped on

Upvoted OP>

>>438671
That looks brand spanking new.
Mines all worn out from slamming it and spilling drinks

>>438671
> not mechanical
sucks to suck

>>438447
Earning $500k/yr gives you a surprising amount of leeway in doing stupid shit.

>>438693

it really does, but there's no alternative and it doesn't feel that that bad

>>438681
i think there's a newer model, i had the screen model before but it just mysteriously stopped working

>>438250
Is that fridge installed in some bar in your house or do you use a commercial grade fridge in your main kitchen?

>>438178
where can i get that indi?

>>438725

Main kitchen

>>438745

flatiron?

I'm upper east side

>>438757

Midtown (facing the Hudson)

>>438759

ah

used to work across from bny mellon, now doing pe in greenwich

not ideal but the money's pretty deece

>>438760

Greenwich village or ct?


I'm on the market risk side- usually a bit slow, but now we got Russia and Ebola adding to the eq risk scenarios

>>437824
bizcoin is real deal it's /biz/'s pump and dump. Something we can all get behind.

>>438770

ct unfortunately

metro north is not as bad as the mta, but it still sucks to commute

we've been eating off the argy panic plate all week

>>438231

The millionaire grandparent story is a common one I hear from a lot of people. So many people have their delusions for how one day they're going to be rich - I'd say those in the most menial jobs typically are the sort that would tell me they're getting some inheritance.

>>438776

Yeah, at least you have the reverse commute. How old are you?

Nice to see fellow nyc/manhattan /biz/fag on here.

>>438961
i'm right outside nyc think you can hook me up with some people who need interns? I'm literally this desperate

>>437860
>keeping 90k in cash

>mfw

>>437771
Some have different definitions of "making it."

New York City would be my Hell on Earth.

I live downtown in a medium-sized city in the Southeast, part owner of a company, make 6 figures, and put in about 5 hours of real work per week.

I have a qt 3.14 gf, great condo overlooking the water, drive a fantastic car that /o/ would probably call "poser," but most of all have incredible amounts of free time to shitpost here.

You'll never catch me wearing a suit unless it's a wedding. My dream is to never wear socks again.

I'd say life is good, but per your definition, I haven't made it.

>>439482
And I'm a dinosaur

>>437771
>ITT: if you're the Real Deal, post timestamp with Rolex

Rolexes are nice watches, but you can get a used one for around $1000, so it's not like they're some unobtainable

>>438450
>actually believing that
This is why you'll never make it

>>438208
oh god I bet he was harassing them, such good bait.

>>438961

28

>>439485
also patek is the real deal. at least that's what I learnt on /biz/ lel. this board is fucking useless.

>>438450
>marketing guy who was making 5-10k
he was trying to lure you onto his site... Noone knows if he made any money with it. But he definitely didn't make money doing retarded facebook ads.

>>438722
There's a mechanical Bloomberg keyboard, my boss uses one.

>>438677
He's at work you dummy.

>>437860
>being in the negative.
>ever

holy fucking shit is this some dumb videogame? no one can actually be that retarded

>>440120
>being in the negative
Assets--$637,117
Debts--$928.86
Net Worth--$636,189.11

Calm down kiddo. Finance and business is for adults. Why don't you go sit in the corner and put your helmet on.

>>440129
my point was:
>being in debt at all

>>440134
Debt isn't inherently bad you retard. You need to use your credit card, because if you don't that effects it negatively, so I needed to put tires on my Jeep instead of paying cash I put it on the CC and paid it off a week later.

People incur debts when the mortgage a rental property and have their tenants pay their mortgages for them.

>tl;dr debt isn't always bad, read a fucking book you dumb uneducated motherfucker

Also.....
Will you be posting your net worth?

Seems like I'm the only one who did.

>feelio when no net worth
I'd say there's only up from here but that would technically be wrong.

>>440143
nah cause it's only like $20

>>440188
$200 *

missed a zero

>>440190
LOL. So you called me a retard because I had a debt over 4 times your net worth. Top lulz kid.

Stay in school.
Don't do drugs.

Only new-rich scum care to show off their money to prove to themselves that they're rich.

>>438283
I bet you read Rich Dad Poor Dad and took it as the holy grail.

>>437860
teach me your ways master

>>440199
hey bro just curious, what did you major in?

>>440134
Newsflash: You are only in debt if your liabilities exceed your assets.

Using a credit card that you pay entirely every month is not debt. It's deferring an expense so you get rewards on the card, a better credit rating, and 6 extra weeks of interest on your money while it's in your account.

>>439482
>Never have to wear a suit
Teach me wise one. How does one make $40k+ a year without having to wear formal attire?

>>440293
Really not much to teach, I was in the right situation at the right times. I was in the Army pre-9/11, did a few tours, got into private security overseas, made real good money doing that, called it quits came back stateside and started flipping houses with some friends, did that built up more capital, and started buying rentals. '09 was a real good time to buy real estate.

>>440306
I got a bullshit liberal arts degree that didn't do shit for me. I'm considering going back to school for an MSF.

>>438208
>5% daily
Well that's great, in a year your 100$ becomes 20 million and in two years you'll become wealthier than most nations. In three years however you'll own most of the world. Not bad for a bedroom day trader.

>>438260
>The Goy who I swindled into buying my book.

>>438992
>think you can hook me up with some people who need interns?

Son, has this EVER worked on /biz/, let alone 4chan?

>>440514
lel it's the same guy on every single thread

>>438671
lol dude is that even yours?

I could easily fake the same pic with the terminals on my floor or go into my pm's office and do the same thing

>>440373
Work from home

>>440394
You guys talk about "just flipping houses", but how did you _start_ flipping houses?

>>440143
>You need to use your credit card
Why?

>>440687
cause its convenient/frequent fliers/faster than digging through wallet for cash

also 60day interest free master race

>>440143
>People incur debts when the mortgage a rental property and have their tenants pay their mortgages for them.

Depends on price:rent ratio. Price is determined by access to credit. Rent is determined by median income. In places with high median incomes and low access to credit the rent may cover the mortgage an then some. In places with low median incomes and high access to credit the cost of a mortgage will be far above rent.

Example: In Vancouver the price of the cheapest detached house is upwards of $650,000, very much above the national average, while the median income is slightly below national average. The advantage goes to renting since the cost of ownership would be over double what the cost to rent is. Interest, taxes and maintenance on a property would end up being far above rent, and those cost are not recoverable at time of sale. So renting makes sense and being a landlord does not.

>>440765
>as if the availability of quality rental stock is unaffected by landlords making little or no profit

>>438221
Because most people who inherit aren't honest to god hard workers who lucked out like you, they're massive faggots who brag about their unearned wealth which is obviously going to drive someone who is poor and set to inherit nothing mad

>>437911
>Nobody who has "made it" is going yo come here.
Speak for yourself. I find it comfy to stop by and help people out with advice from time to time.

>>438322
>Millions because he got lucky and got a cushy as fuck corporate lawyer job where he earns something like $500k/year.
All my kek. Yup, you're right faggot ... it was all LUCK. All luck that I aced the SATs. All luck that I went to an Ivy League university. All luck that I graduated Summa Cum Laude. All luck that I went to a T10 law school. All luck that I made law review, and was published. All luck that I had a dozen job offers. All luck that I made partner in my first year eligible.

Jesus Christ man, just accept the fact that there are people more successful than you due to their superior intelligence. You'll be a happier man once you get past your crippling denial.

>>438447
>iHaz is retarded as shit. He has been proven wrong over and over. I am surprised he isn't broke yet.
Yeah, my net worth is growing by about a million per year for the last 10 years, so I'm not really worried about going broke. But thanks for your concern.

>be rich
>immediately buy a Rolex
What a waste of money.

>>438221
congratulations, you got rich for doing literally nothing, while billions of people suffer in poverty

>>440685
An old Army buddy of mine worked in the trades with his father, when I came back from Iraq I hooked back up with him. He had a lot of knowledge I had capital, I bought the properties he did the work. There is no real secret to flipping, you either need experience in the trades or enough capital to buy properties and pay people to do the work.

>>440765
What you quoted and what you said are completely unrelated. Some guy said that "any debt is bad", and I simply pointed out that isn't true. If you mortgage a property with the intent of renting it out, you are incurring debt. It isn't bad debt but it's debt nonetheless.

>>441101

yet your life is so empty you come to 4chan. I guess money doesn't really solve any problems

Most of us are never going to become rich. It's pretty much all fucking luck anyways, so there's no real point.

>>441126
>yet your life is so empty you come to 4chan. I guess money doesn't really solve any problems
My life isn't empty, but I do have a lot of free time since I was able to retire early.

Also, money does solve a lot of problems ... don't kid yourself otherwise.

>>441136
Depends on your definition of rich. Hundred millions, billions....few on here will reach that level.

6 figure bank account very doable, 7 figures harder but doable with smart investing.

It sounds cliche but if you say "it's all luck it will never happen to me", you are setting yourself up for failure and disappointment.

Work your way up to a good job, read about investing, never stop driving forward.

>>441146
I'm not looking into "I own the world" style of Rothschild being rich. I just wanna own a lot of nice cars.

>>441144
I'm just curious how you first got turned onto 4chin. From what I've read on here, you are above the normal age curve for this site, and you have a fairly large net worth.

Some people hate you, some covet your advice, I'm neither just curious how an older millionaire got turned onto this Siberian imageboard.

>>441147
Buy nice do you mean a fleet of Lambos? Or classic muscle cars? What net value would you place on a lot of nice cars.

If you don't want luxury cars just get into the car industry in some capacity. A friend of mine is a motorcycle mechanic, he makes shit money doing what he loves, but over the years he has collected bikes and parts, and now owns over 20 motorcycles.

>>441165
I want everything from a Lotus to a Mustang GT500. I'm thinking 2-3 million liftetime car net value.

>>437822
So? I used to have a Rolls Royce. It cost me $10k, I put another $10k into it and sold it for $50k.

>>440373
In Australia I make $130k p.a as an unskilled worker who wears hi-vis.

>>441101
I don't think you're a faggot if that counts for anything

>>441169
And what do you currently do for work? What are your prospects for a career?

Don't run out and buy a 40k car if your annual salary is 35k. I've seen people do that, stupid shit.

>>441126

Haters gonna hate. I've never seen iHaz flaunt his status. I've only seen him bring it up if it's pertinent to the discussion. His advice isn't always spot on perfect, but it's a great start for the 20 year old NEETs on this board looking to one day have complete financial security.

>>438097

$50 bought from a street vendor

>>441213
I'm in college. I'm currently trying to gather as many resources as I can to make money with.

I'm not buying a new car until I can buy two of a new car down in cash.

>>441220
What is your major?

Cold Emailing regional boutiques want to intern on weekends? Should i email the lowest ranked person or highest?

>>441228
How should i approach this email every place possible? From a smaller city with probably less competition but no BB options

>>441228
Email whoever is working in the HR department. I wouldn't email anyone else, unless you have a connection with them or were referred by someone to them. HR should always be your point of contact for a job or internships.

>>441225
Computer Science, might switch to informatics.

>>441241
Good luck. I have no advice to offer become I'm not a computer guy, just ensure that the projected job growth and salary are good for computer scientists. I've read that some computer job are at risk of being outsourced to India and China...make sure you don't choose a career that could easily be outsourced.

>>441239
Really? Wall street Oasis tends to say go for bankers directly. I'll try your method for the first few cold attempts. Most of the place I'm emailing probably won't have HR so in that case the what do you recommend ?

>>441254
Going to Mhacks? I got rejected but got into unhackathon and have been granted the ability to speak at my schools conference

>>441150
>I'm just curious how you first got turned onto 4chin.
Been browsing /g/, /tv/, /b/, etc. for many, many years. I don't often like normal message boards because the reputation systems and nazi moderators enforce a false civility that impedes spirited debate. Here, on the other hand, I can always say whatever the fuck I want.

>>441206
>>441214
Thanks. I try to be respectful to people that seek my advice. And while not everyone likes what I have to say, at least I'm honest about the pros and cons of conservative investment strategies.

>>441150
>I'm just curious how you first got turned onto 4chin.
Been browsing /g/, /tv/, /b/, etc. for many, many years. I don't often like normal message boards because the reputation systems and nazi moderators enforce a false civility that impedes spirited debate. Here, on the other hand, I can always say whatever the fuck I want.

>>441206
>>441214
Thanks. I try to be respectful to people that seek my advice. And while not everyone likes what I have to say, at least I'm honest about the pros and cons of conservative investment strategies.

>>441292
iHaz i think 99% of tripfags are attention seeking faggots.

You fall into that 99% but you're entertaining and seem to know your shit you're easily my favorite trip on /biz/

>>440373
Auto mechanic, licensed electrician, welder.. Google is your friend.

>>441284
>Really? Wall street Oasis tends to say go for bankers directly. I'll try your method for the first few cold attempts. Most of the place I'm emailing probably won't have HR so in that case the what do you recommend ?

I'm just going off of personal experience, I have friendly acquaintances(bankers) that I've met dealing with banks doing real estate. And since I've been thinking of starting a career in banking/finance, I've talked to them about putting a good word in for me. And so far it hasn't panned out to anything.

If WSO tells you to email bankers, hey those guys are bankers and finance guys. I'm just a schmuck who made some money flipping house, they def. know better then me.

>>441304
If you're a schmuck I fear for what I am. Enjoy the money you're making flipping houses and best of luck in whatever direction you decide to take your career. Thanks for the help

>>441101
Of all the people who are faggots on 4chan, you're probably the biggest.

Are you a 5'7 manlet or something? I can't imagine a full grown adult being so insufferable.

>>440575

What is he supposed to do, write his name in sharpie on the keybaord?

I'm going to tell you now that Rolex(s) are terrible watches. The nouveau riche don't all waste their money on status symbols either. In fact, that's becoming more apparent that someone is not truly wealthy but most likely merely middle-upper class wishing they were.

>>438992

at least introduce yourself with a line or two on what skills you have or what you can bring to the table

some banks and a lot of buy side firms are hiring because there's a bit of turn over with the VP/senior level personnel - and they're looking to replace them with junior/mid level heads(because they're cheaper)

>>441284
>>441304

>WSO

>Hey guys I have a 2.2 GPA from a Western Bumfuck State and only have job experience waiting tables. How can I get a job at a place like Goldman or Jeffries (not a lower tier bank like MS or JPM, of course!)

I honestly don't know why people even go there.

>>441126
>feels bad man.

I agree - I just got a 12% pay bump because I told my firm competitors are offering a lot more for the people with my experience. But that extra money only buys temporary happiness. It's doesn't significantly change myself

>>440575

just proof that he's in some sort of trading/wall street position... after all, that is what the OP called for..

>>441382

I tend to agree, never wanted a Rolex, but if I was going to get a nice watch, I'd look into IWC, a lot classier and in the same price segment as Rolex.

>>441324
At first I was like, "Why is this kid so mad?" Then I checked your posts and realized that you're the poorfag I shat on earlier in the thread.

So, ok, your butt-hurt and will be for a few days. You'll get over it. Tissue?

Think a smaller botique might go for internship where i work weekends during the school year? Is this unheard of?

Found some alumi on some of the firms i planed on applying to which is nice. My school only has alumni in a small region where i won't spend my summers so that scares me

>>441417
You should be grateful, I said you were above most of the retarded children here.

Most. Some of them have you beat, apparently.

>>441459
>Think a smaller botique might go for internship where i work weekends during the school year? Is this unheard of?

No - Who's gonna be supervising you during the weekends? No one.

You'll have better luck being a trader/money manager's golf caddy on a weekend.

>>438816
It's all about timing.

>>440199
LOL RETARD

>>441417
>your butthurt

>>441396

I have always had a thing for the Milgauss, but I wear a seamaster that my late grandmother gave me. I can't think of wearing any other watch.

>>441459
No one's around on weekends and the majority of trading happens during the day. The best thing you could do would be to take a semester off if they offer you an internship and work full time.

>>441459
>>441769
Noone works weekends in boutiques? Damn what about small PE firms.

Would it be ridiculous to say something like I would work 5pm untill midnight every day of the week?

>>441292
Dude, if you have millions of dollars, I'm going to need you to teach me your magical ways because I am tired of being from a poor family and I can't bear the thought of continuing my life like my parents lived theirs.

>>440514
lmfao

>>441898
>Dude, if you have millions of dollars, I'm going to need you to teach me your magical ways
Nothing magical about it. I'm brilliant, and I worked hard to make it to the top of my profession, which happens to be extremely lucrative. For any further details about my background, check out my AMA thread from a few months ago:

http://archive.foolz.us/biz/thread/301031/

>>441941
Thanks dude, I'll check it out

>>441876

Just think about it for a little bit. The markets close at 4. Who would be around at 10 o'clock, and would they really be in the mood for an intern?

You also need to get your priorities straight. The firm is doing you a favor by hiring you, a hapless intern with no experience. When they ask you shit, you say what color, where and what time. When you're hired you don't dictate conditions. They're got other people to hire who can make time for them.

You have to work around their schedule, not theirs around yours.

ITT: Your Appreciating Assets / Collection Items

>>441964
Shit I've never thought of it that way. I thought since it was a boutique that kind of attitude wasn't necessary i see now that I'm wrong. Think it might be possible to intern over winter break I have a month off.

>>441941

>I'm brilliant

You're a member of a highly skilled profession with huge barriers to entry. Lawyers, doctors and engineers don't get to use the word "brilliant" to describe themselves considering the substantial majority of their income is attributable to monopoly rents. "Brilliant" is an adjective that should properly be reserved for people like mathematicians, scientists, programmers, and academics.

And nobody should use it to describe themselves. That's just gauche.

>>442079
>>441941

Just read his AMA, currently working at PE firm.

I spent time in about every gifted program there was, scored 36 on my ACT's. iHaz seems pretty gifted.

With smart people you can just tell.

>>442072
fuck over winter break I can't stay on campus and I'll be in nyc so none of my alumni will be relevant. how does spending winters and summers in ny make it harder to find a internship this is misery

>>441941

Can you give a massive faggot like me some advice? I'm 24 years old, almost 25. I have a 135 IQ, been tested multiple times. Not 'genius' level, but enough to put me in the top 1% for my age group.

I received a degree in business economics from my state university. I then moved back home with mom and dad shortly after. I'm currently making money by pretending to be an 18 year old girl in chat rooms and having guys send me money. I make about $500 a week.

I'm intelligent enough to be successful, but my life feels stuck right now. Any words or advice?

>>442513
Find a career that you're willing to support with 100% of your effort for the next 5 years. You don't have to love the job, or even find it particularly rewarding or fulfilling (that's a bonus if its true) ... but it should have upside potential (financially) and you must be willing to make it your top priority.

For 98% of those who achieve wealth, stability, and success in their lies, it starts with a solid career. For someone in their 20's, the best advice I can give is to develop a stable source of income, live frugally, and invest your excess earnings in conservative long-term funds. That'll form the base of your financial pyramid, upon which you can build going forward based on your talents.

>>442079
>Lawyers, doctors and engineers don't get to use the word "brilliant" to describe themselves considering the substantial majority of their income is attributable to monopoly rents.
Your statement really doesn't make any sense whatsoever. How does the state of the legal market have any correlation to my IQ? Even if your statement about law being a monopoly were true (which it is not), that wouldn't explain the demonstrable level of my intelligence (as exemplified by my academic accomplishments). And as for being gauche enough to brag about my own talents, you really need to look around: this is 4chan, not church, The rules of engagement are quite different here.

>>442549
What career would you recommend that requires little to no monetary investment with high return. I am currently 19 years old. But I feel as though college is a scam. I have thought about going to the oil fields but I am unsure. My uncle has a cousin that owns a construction company. I want to get a job with him but I don't think they will give me a chance. What should I do?

>>442571
a skilled trade like welding/plumbing/electrician/automechanic... yeah, you still need to get licensed/certified, but its still a lot less than going to college.

sorry, life's not going to hand you everything for free. work at mcdonalds/gas station to save up money to get into those trades.

>>442571
I'm not really the right person to ask about trade careers. You'll be better off getting advice from someone who understands your circumstances better than me.

>>442582
Do you know anything about business?

>>442576
>>442576
Thanks for the info. These seem like good careers. I'm just trying to get a lot of money as quickly as possible.

>>442571
>>442576
Do you guys think it would be better to own a business or to throw that money into the market? Or buy Equity?

>>442598
>Do you guys think it would be better to own a business or to throw that money into the market? Or buy Equity?

good thing about those careers I mentioned is that you can start off working for someone else at first(since their business will likely have things like liability insurance, a work truck, etc- that you'll need to start off). If you're good and smart, you can eventually open up your own welding company/auto shop/general contractor/ etc, but it all depends on if you're good and if you're willing to spend the effort on it.

(have patience is the best advice I can give)

>>438250

Teach me your ways on what produces income stream, and purchasing assets.

>>442549

I was considering joining the army. I can make money and have all my student loans paid off. I also love exercise and physical fitness, and the whole primitive 'tribal' mentality. Could this be... good for me I guess? Is this the same as a 100% career for 5 years?

>>442639
The military is a smart decision as long as you learn a skill from your time in service.

As a general rule employers like hiring veterans, but 4 years in the infantry isn't going to open doors into IB.

>>442645

I'm not interested in investment banking.

>>442649
I feel as if you missed the point of my post completely....

>>442656

No I understand what you're saying. You can choose an MOS when you serve, and you're saying that as long as I take opportunities in fields I'm interested in and learn transferable skills, I can be employable in the civilian life when I'm finished.

>>439482
You've made it. Comfy life > Rolex and Rolls

>>442549
I see, what a faggot.

>>442639
I'm not a life coach, but this sounds like a step backwards. You already have a college degree. What are you planning to get out of military service that you don't already have?

Seems like you're pretty directionless and are looking to postpone growing up. That may be a harsh (and inaccurate) assessment, but I'm working with limited information here.

>>437771
Ok, OP, I'm 19 now and I'm not rich
>tfw
But if I make it in like 10 years or later on, I'll come back here and post m8.

>tfw college is fun but everyone talks about not wanting to leave, but I just want to get out and make some money

>>442696

I'm just unemployable.

I had a great GPA from my college. I also went to the Kelley School of Business at Indiana University, which is a very reputable business school. But all I did was go to class, go to the gym, then fuck my girlfriend. I never did any workshops, internships, extra curriculars, clubs, activities, networking, etc. I'm pretty much an introvert and this stuff was all unappealing and such a hassle to me.

I've had several interviews since I came back home in December 2013, but the same issue arises: employers are impressed at my professionalism, intelligence, and the way that I present myself. But, because I don't have any real life experience, no one wants to gamble on me.

I'm not asking for 'life coaching', but like I said, I just feel stuck. Any advice or comments are much appreciated.

>>442513
>in the top 1% for my age group.
IQ is standardized for age

>>442747

I'm well aware. I guess included that because I won't want anyone to think I'm better than they are. IQ tests only measure a narrow way of thinking. Having a higher IQ than anyone else, only means that I can preform better on an arbitrary test than someone else can. I'm only appealing to IQ because iHaz indicated how his intellect played a great role in his success. Whereas, I'm "objectively" intelligent, yet I'm a basement dwelling autist.

>>442724
>>442724
Most of the college graduates I know after they finish they go back home to live the rest of there lives with their parents. Here's what they studied and what they are doing now.

Cousin 1: Architecture: works at wielding company

Cousin 2: Law: Cheese factory

Cousin 3: Mechanical Engineering: Unemployed

Brother: Computer Engineering. Works as a truck driver.

Sister: Recording Engineer: Didn't think record payed enough. She quit couldn't find better job so works at wells Fargo.

This is why I am not going to college. There are more but I can't remember their majors. Some of them also struggled to get their jobs so they are no trying to get a Doctorate thinking it will make a difference.

>>442743
Does anybody know that technique where people try to discourage others by implying they are far better than average but still failures?

Idk really know how to explain it, /r9k/ has mastered it. It's like the final frontier of trolling.

Stuff like:
>tfw 6' manlet ;_;
>tfw 6" babby dick ;_;
>tfw loser who only got accepted to Brown ;_;
>tfw IQ is only 130 ;_;

Like what is this kind of trolling called? It's honestly some next level shit. I don't think there is more powerful bait.

>>442761
false modesty?

>>442761

Explain it to me because I'd like to know. Not troll, again, just a fucking autist.

>>442762
That sounds about right I guess, except the goal is to put down other people like "I'm so great yet I can't even do this, therefore you don't have a chance".

>>442764
You are claiming that you are a real genius who cannot get work despite graduating from a good school, getting a great GPA, and having excellent interview skills, because the only thing hold you back is lack of experience.

You have to be lying about something. People with much less qualifications and skills then you get hired into great jobs all the time.

>>442766

I never said I'm a genius. In fact, I very specifically remember mentioning that I'm "not genius level" ....

I'll submit about 50 applications, and get a response from 4-5 of them.

I'll go to the interview, try my best to build rapport with the employer, present myself as super professional, but it seems to keep boiling down to how my education isn't transferable to the job at hand.

I majored in business economics. I'm from a rural community. A perfect job for me would be a 'business analyst' position. I've been applying for local finance/accounting positions because I DO have a skillset pertinent to those fields, but, I keep getting "unfortunately, we..." e-mails.

I went through the interview process with a financial institution a few months ago. They gave me the run around for 2 weeks straight. I was interviewed by 3 separate managers, stayed in contact over the phone with an HR guy, and even shadowed a manager for the day. Everything seemed to align and I was finally going to get the job, until I checked my e-mail and, you guess it, "Unfortunately, we..."

>>442772
Ok, it's just you then. Maybe they just don't like something about your face?

Your degree is kind of unfocused, but that shouldn't matter for entry level jobs.

Where are you from and what race are you?

>>442777

I'm from the midwest. I'm a white male. The closest area with jobs for my degree is in Chicago, but that's a 2 hour one-way commute. I can't afford to move anywhere either, I have no money.

How about making your own fucking money, you lazy fags. Just view some ads and do some tasks, free money.Plus, it pays to paypal

http://www neo bux com/?rh=6361726C6F7373616E6162

(erase spaces)

>>442779
>I'm a white male
That's probably why you're not getting hired.

Gotta love diversity.

>>442782

Yeah, make your own money you lazy fucks! Here's my link:

www.pyramidscheme.com/refid=ehURZWrG

>>442751
That sounds pretty terrible. But I'm at school now for two separate BBAs in Corporate Finance and Investments and another in Economics. If all goes well, I'll be transferring to Cornell next year (just a matter of how exactly I'll pay for it without having to take out a shit ton in loans to cover it) and they have really good connections with Goldman Sachs and other bulge bracket banks who recruit there. I'm hoping I'll be fine.

They probably just weren't diligent enough in focusing on internships and networking in school and not the mention the whole super saturated STEM major bullshit.

>>442743
>I'm just unemployable.
Bullshit. If you've got decent grades and a Kelley degree, then you can find a career position. So what if your effort haven't yielded results yet? You've only been looking for nine months, which while unfortunate, is hardly enough time to throw in the towel and throw away your life in the military or your parent's basement. Fifty applications didn't get results? So what? ... just send 100 more. Send 500 more. Top priority and 100% effort means top priority and 100% effort.

Also, you CAN afford to move somewhere. For a good job, you can and should move. Beg, borrow or steal if necessary ... but find a way. Getting that good first job is more important than anything else.

Finally, don't spout nonsense about Chicago being your only option. You're in range to interview for jobs in Indianapolis, Cincinnati, St. Louis, Dayton, Columbus, Louisville, Detroit, Milwaukee, Cleveland. and Nashville ... just to name the larger cities.

I'm sorry , but if you have good grades and a degree from Kelley then there's really no excuses left. 95% of the career-seeking population would kill to have your resume.

>>443204
>Bullshit .... Fifty applications didn't get results? So what? ... just send 100 more. Send 500 more. Top priority and 100% effort means top priority and 100% effort.


By definition- insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

The guy needs to review his application process and resume and see why it's not working.

Not all solutions can be found by throwing more and more time/money/effort at a problem

>>442795

>They have really good connections with Goldman Sachs and other bulge bracket banks who recruit there

Oh man, you are going to be in a whole world of shit when you figure out that a Big Red degree is worth as much as one from Syracuse.

Any other ivy does the job, but cornell is just the worst.

>>443230
Ordinarily your point has validity, but you have to look at the context. This guy claims to have top tier grades and a degree from one of the better respected business schools in the Midwest. Compared to most job seekers, he's not starting at square 1 ... he's more like at square 4 right off the bat.

Obviously, any job seeker's resume and interview skills should always be self-evaluated and re-evaluated. But when you've got a resume that puts you ahead of 95% of the job seeking market, then its really just a numbers game.

>>443230
>By definition- insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Sorry to be that autistic guy. But that isn't the definition of insanity...at all.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insanity


I gotta agree with ihaz on this one. If this guy truly graduated from Kelley with good grades, even if he didn't take advantage of internships during undergrad, he shouldn't just give up on his goals.

I suspect that he is applying for jobs, which he really isn't cut out for, because of lack of experience. And doesn't want to take an entry level job(low pay), and work his way up. That is just a guess, not saying it's true.

Many people I know graduated with a BA and felt they were to good for entry level work, even though there was upward mobility. They wanted to start in the middle not the bottom.

>>443674
>I suspect that he is applying for jobs, which he really isn't cut out for, because of lack of experience. And doesn't want to take an entry level job(low pay), and work his way up.

exactly, that's why I said in my last post

>The guy needs to review his application process and resume and see why it's not working.

if he sent out 100 resumes/applications and all have the same results, he's needs to take a different angle or try a different strategy.

>>443398
How come you haven't bought a supercar yet, like a testarossa , what are you waiting for?

>>438255
Hahahah so blunt yet that made me laugh so hard, well said.

>>438260
Hahah god you are a troll. Does reading a book all of sudden make you a financial wizard? Go take a nap old man.

>>442772
I here ya bro, recent business grad here looking for work in CA. Sent 50+ resumes and had multiple interviews but I keep hearing the same old. Unfortunately line over and over again...

>>438264
>Allocating time and money in the pursuit of looking superior often has a predictable outcome: inferior economic achievement.
so am i supposed to look like a bum?

>>438453
>>438458
>>438459
>>438460
>>438462

>falling for something this hard
>taking it hook, line, & sinker

It was so easy

>Cold emailed 26 people
>got 1 phone call it ended in him saying to call him again some time.
>Follow up with an email thanking him and asking him if I should be talking to anyone else. >He didn't respond

Think I pissed him off? He is a managing director and he spoke to me for a solid 15 mins so he could just have been busy. I'll probably make up an excuse to talk to him latter

>>444770
why be passive-aggressive
he's not an idiot, there's no reason to make up an excuse when you contact him in the future, it makes you look like a social retard

>>445028
okay think i pissed him off?