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Don't think too hard. Go with your gut feeling.

>>416609
Agreed. Instinct has always proven to be strongest for me in stocks.

holy shit what a buy

Looking to enter at $3.52

>>416609
>>416610
I'm no expert but that sounds like horrible advice, anons.

>>416611
I'd like to buy in around there as well.

>>416612
Personally, I think it was dumber to ask 4chan than our advice.

But you either know or you don't. I don't recommend investing in any company you don't understand in every aspect. If you were familiar enough with it, you wouldn't be asking us questions.

>>416606
Good buy hopefully it dips lower to about 3.60ish.

>>416617
I've bought and sold AMD with success twice in the past. I was mostly looking to hear if other anons were having similar thoughts.

>>416624
Do you still remember the dates and percentages you gained on them? AMD is one of a few tech stocks I haven't touched, so I'm curious.

>>416622
>>416611

How did you arrive at those numbers?

Who the fuck would invest in this piece of shit?

African made devices has consoles, and graphics. People dumped the stock because they lost money, why would you invest thinking it will go up?

Invest in a nice dividend-paying stock like GM or WMT

>>416624
>>416646
It's rich in volatility. That's it's beauty. I'm not going to say I love this stock; that would be strange.

>>416646
I don't remember specifics, but last year I purchased at around $3.50 and sold earlier this year at around $4.

>>416654
What >>416655 said, it's volatile. Never seems to make it past the 4 dollar range, but it's still a good company that will probably be around for a long time. If it falls, you can bet that it will rise again.

>>416652
Looking at a few indicators, although I could take the clue right away from Bollinger Bands to be honest. Everyone is looking at the recent price action. I know that AMD is going to take a dive tomorrow and probably buy in sometime late next week. Not to get all TA, but I recognize an inverse H&S in the annual chart. I think that it's modern point of exhaustion is more like $3.52. Not to mention it obviously has a way to go upward with their graphics card market, and also the low-end mobile market.

thoughtstream

>>416646
Not that anon but AMD stocks usually drop when they announce their earnings.

They follow a pretty predictable pattern in that respect but I'm going to buy into them now for the long term. Analysts are pointing out that they're not doing well in the core PC market and that the console sales are helping to keep them afloat.

My view is that they have a few products that haven't been released yet and they have quite a few that are due to enter the market around now. Beema, Mullins, Kaveri and Seattle are major parts of their current strategy and aside from *very* few Kaveri and Beema parts are not yet available to the public. I expect them to do well in the next two years.

>>416606
Why do you guys want to buy in this? You've been talking about it since last year or so.
Also what are you guys looking for when you buy in
>I wait for it to go low and do some research to see if there is anything good happening with the company

Thats why i am going to go into Raytheon RTN
All this talk about ISIS/ISIL gaza and russia why aren't we investing in arms makers?

>>416606

You guys know that russians sanctions involve AMD?

Historically, AMD has been a cash bleeder since Hector Ruiz took the helm and ran the company into the ground. Intel did enough illegal anti-competitive damage that they don't have to worry about this company coming back to the desktop or HPC market; they paid off the regulators and we don't know what's in that settlement with AMD.

AMD is pumping out chips for two major consoles and makes interesting offers for low end PCs.

Investors forced AMD to sell of their mobile chip division right before Apple showed up and made mobile chips big. AMD is still playing catch-up in mobile chips and power conservation.

>>416610
Instinct told me to buy a lot of pennystocks when I was 16, at least I had one strong stock to keep me green but it took over a year for that to happen.

>>416713
>16
That's enough to void your point.

>>416732
I made a really good decision at 16 too and made several hundred dollars on 45 shares of a stock so all in all Pennystocks are mostly shit and it any new investor at any age could have made the same mistake.

>>416695
But AMD aren't playing catchup in the mobile chips division. Their jaguar based products are very competitive with Intel, though both are getting pummeled by ARM.

Their biggest problem is adoption, which they're trying to address with several different initiatives. I'm also far more interested in their upcoming microserver parts as this is a completely untested market which one that AMD can potentially conquer with their upcoming Seattle parts, using Freedom Fabric ('murrca, fuck yeah!) and Seamicro. They'll be following this up with their k12 architecture in 2016.

Short term AMD is as volatile as ever and will probably drop more before picking up again. Long term prospects are uncertain but I personally remain positive.

>>416733
I'm 18 and just started investing.
25% in BRK.B
50% in blue chips with good dividends
10% in silver because I like to hold shekels
15% in speculative stocks for fun/hopefully big gainz

Not all of are retards.

>>416792
By 18 I fixed myself too, but I put most of my money in aggressive funds and I'm worth over $800,000 right now.

>>416795
>I'm worth over $800,000 right now.
Not bad.
Age, what stocks did you get lucky with?

>>416796
20, lucked out with my funds mostly, had a lot of help from my grandparents and their financial adviser. Add in inheritance and strong stocks in utility and technology.

Stocks I'd buy right now would be Apple, Yahoo, Alcoa.

AMD is going much much lower. The only idiots who would buy are people like Wipe and idiots who listen to him.

>>416771
>both are getting pummeled by ARM.
ARM has owned mobile space for a long time. Intel has been trying desperately to compete, but they can't get x86 to compete with the same power envelope as ARM. Any enhancements Intel produces, ARM can benefit from as well.

>Their biggest problem is adoption
This has always been AMD's problem. They made decent money in the enthusiast market of the 90's/early00's as the performance value king. Intel kept them out of mid/high end desktops with illegal anticompetitive practices.

Physicalisation may become a thing, but that is more of a gamble than anything.

They are throwing away the desktop market by not even trying to compete with Intel on that end. Where are they going to get their fallback cash from? Videocards for bitcoin miners?

>>416806
>listening to the muslim jew
How much lower do you predict it'll go and why?

>>416804
Not bad but it'd be more impressive without the
>inheritance
part

>>416811
Low threes, nothing big coming out in the near future, Q3 will be a loss, and AMD does not talk about developments in Q4. Start of next year interest will pick up again and it'll go back to the MOON.

>>416815
Yeah well money is money dude

>>416816
I agree, I'll be getting a larger sum than you when my parents croak as well. However I wouldn't brag about it. Probably just buy some property so that I never need to worry about that again.

>>416811
If 3.85 keeps resistance then it can easy test 3.35 range.

>>416804
>Alcoa
alcoa has been a monster since beginning of this year. wish i had bought more back then, but i continue to throw money at it.

hopefully they have their shit together for once.

>>416804
>Stocks I'd buy right now would be Apple, Yahoo, Alcoa.
Okay, I can see reasoning behind some of these. But what is your reason behind Yahoo? Are you using it as a backdoor because of their holdings in Alibaba?

I wouldn't buy into AMD but I know nothing about trading. What I do know is IT and the only thing keeping them alive is consoles, it they lose a console contract with the next gen they are done.

>>417315
Nah, keep your whore mouth shut.

>>417323
I don't want them to die but they are doing it to themselves with shitty driver support and slow updates.
They are missing out on the multi-billion dollar PCgaymen market and will soon loose the Crypto mining market as mining is getting less profitable and Scrypt ASICs are becoming mainstream.

>>416606
>Beta around 2.5
>P/E north of 30+
>16% over-reaction to earnings
>Considering buying
lel as an value investor I am kill from much laughter

Honestly if you're speculating something that's just dropped 16% over bad earnings, you better have a good reason to do so. I heard NVIDIA Corp has upped their game, I don't know much about their product but:

NVIDIA makes almost 500 million a year
AMD makes just over 80 million

Doesn't matter how good either of the products are, NVIDIA is killing AMD with those earnings and the ability to expand and create a better product is superior.

Intel on the other hand is the master race, they make 10 BILLION dollars a year in revenue or 5x the amount of AMD's worth. If that doesn't give you a good picture I don't know what will. Intel is pretty much a moderate buy in value terms, modest dividends and room for expansion.

>TL;DR
Intel > NVIDIA > AMD

AMD's coming in at third place.. out of three players.

>>417328
He's just mad because he probably is holding stock with the company. When one company is dependent on one company or a handful, this is what we call a "Johnny One Note" in terms of value investing.

It's good to see /biz/ness is pushing along as usual even with a few snide comments here and there. Keep up the good work folks.

>>416606
Buy AMD. It's going to be bought by Apple.

>>417418
There are a number of reasons why this is retarded and won't happen. First off, the x86 license is not transferable. Secondly, Apple are seem quite happy with their current position.
Lastly, not sure it'd be worth it for them anyway, AMD are diversifying into markets Apple have no interest in and while their ultra low power chips are competitive, the rest of their consumer gear relies on low price point to sell.

>>417418
Google would be more likely. Maybe next year something will happen because of HSA (i think java will get its support next year).

Bumping this for opinions. Anyone think they know when it'll settle?

What does /biz/ think about ARM?

>>418645
Can anyone post the arm london chart from 1990-2000? I remember seeing crazy up and downswings. I can't check it now because i'm posting from my phone.

AMD is fucking dogshit.

Their P/E is 80.

If you buy this then you are doing it on the sole basis of "lel le epic consuls and gaymen lel"

Feels good to have sold at 4.60

>>419347
>valuation on a speculated popular stock
Look at the options chain on AMD, its a volatile stock traded because its popular and volatile.

>>419412
>speculation
>good
It's 45yo and still has shit earnings. It's ogre.

>>419412
Why would you spec on AMD options when you could just BUY calls on an actual good company?

Tripeld my money on INTC options. Way less risk and way more reward for speculation on the worst company in semis.

I don't see why'd you by a debt laden AMD with a p/e over 30 and a questionable future. I wouldn't even by Intel. Mobile Chips are the way to invest... Brb hurr durr new cell phone upgrade time.

>>416810

The latest leaks out of AMD were they were shrinking chipset sizes and creating APU's to push to the TV Market instead. the 370/380 will apparently have versions that will be able to be installed in TV's.

>>419483
>W
debt laden
>yfw this chart
>yfw amd doesn't pay a dividend
>yfw amd didn't just do a buyback

Now that shitcoin mining is moving away from high-powered multi-card rigs (Nvidia was beating them at that anyway), they've really got nothing on NoVidya and Intel. The processors are crap who's generally lower prices aren't enough to justify just how much better Intel's are, and while the GPU's are actually pretty good and well priced, its generally agreed that Nvidias are the better buy.

>>420176
>Opinions and Other Horseshit Claims: The Post

>>420176
so they don't have contracts with microsoft, and sony for thier semi custom chips?

"processors are crap"
>ywf this picture

>>420176

>>420414
ROFL

>>416610
Investing and feelings is a bad mix anon.

>>420674
I invest on emotions. On your emotions.

>came here expecting objective discussion about the company as a whole, taking their diversification into account
>get /g/ tier fanboyism with "muh desktop chips!"
God damnit, no one cares about your ancient fucking behemoths anymore. It's about mobile and enterprise.