/biz/ - Business & Finance

dont you get it? soon youll be able to retire, live comfortably and do literally whatever the fuck you want and not have to worry about where your next meal is gonna come from, or if you can pay the rent/mortgage on time

>Yet money didn't make me happy
1. Buy solid gold hot tub
2. Surround with champagne
3. Fill with women
4. ???
5. Happy

That's because money ain't shit. Money is modern day slavery. And doing a repetitive task to get it is autistic as fuck. Society is paying attention to ppl and their non material wants.

>>409974
That shit would not make me happy.
>>409973
You shouldn't be forced to worry ever about it.

>My health is shit because I dedicated years to learn about money.
It ain't too late to get healthier. Go to >>>/fit/ and read the sticky, start exercising and eating right.
As for your unhappiness, what did you expect? Having a number in an account would make you feel good? It's never too late to turn your life around.

>>409968

Focus on getting better health and travel the world

>>409977
i agree, but thats not reality

>>409983
We can make it a reality if we get rid of the system we have that indoctrinates total control of our lives

>>409990
Hint: Communism doesn't work.

>>409968

Stop making shit up. Shut the fuck up.

No, your networth didn't grow significantly over the past few years.

People with the potential to think "money is evil" don't get rich.

People don't lose their health because of studying.

>>409968
>Yet money didn't make me happy.
Of course not ya dummy.
That doesn't mean having enough of it can't at least give you some peace of mind though.
You've got 99 problems, but not having the dough to do shit aint one.

>>409995
>People don't lose their health because of studying
That part is very possible.

>>409991
Neither does this ologarchism work.
Robots for work for every family they own one robot they have to take of the worked not could be a new system.
We need something ten times better then this.

>>410000
>Robots for work for every family they own one robot they have to take of the worked not could be a new system.
You what?...

>>409968
I guess the obvious thing would be to work on your health and use your financial knowledge to help people with their own finances while still keeping your worth going up, though not necessarily as quickly. That way the time you spent learning goes to something useful to others, making it not feel like a waste of time. Maybe invest in some businesses that do things you care about even if you won't get much other than knowing it'll be more likely to succeed at those things.

>>409968
Now imagine having ruined your health and having no money or assets to show for it. Still crying like a little bitch?

>>410001
Seen this dude posting about the evils of money before. I don't think he's thought it through too much

If I didn't have to work, I would shitpost on 4chan all day and fuck white wimminz at night. It would be a good life.


What would you do, /biz/?

>>409968
What would you invest in right now?

>>409968
ITT: NEETs write fanfiction to feel better about their pathetic lives

>>409968
>I'm literally couple of years away from being able to retire way before my income/age cohort.
>Yet money didn't make me happy.

Did someone say 'Silver spoon faggots who had it all and are never satisfied or thankful for what they got' thread?

>>409990
hey man im with you, ive taken tons of philosophy classes and im all aboard the fuck money and the system, capitalism is bullshit train. but its not a reality until we have automation (no alienated labor [shit jobs]), and a huge oversupply of all resources.

some day we wont have to worry about money. but we're a long ways away

>>409991
hint, true communism has never been put into practice. if you think what the russians did was real communism, youre wrong. hence the classic marx quote "I am not a marxist"

>>410053
>true communism has never been put into practice
>muh no true scotsman

After reading Das Kapital and its more retarded version, Communist Manifesto, I quickly realised something... I didn't become commie but I realised why commies keep spouting that annoying "that's not TRUE communism!11!!" bullshit rhetoric, because true communism is stateless and Marx advocated for a centralised socialist state first and then shift to statelessness aka "true" communism. But it occurred to me, Somalia was a socialist state and is now stateless. Why don't commies all fuck off to Somalia, their true stateless communist paradise?

P.S. Learn to capitalise your sentences, kid. You're an embarrassment.

>>410073

Did you not read my post? Two of Marx's biggest points are that there MUST be a gross over supply of all resources, and that there must also be no alienated labor. Thus people will be free to choose whatever line of work they wish, and won't feel the need to compete or get ahead. When there's a huge over supply of all resources, there's no need for money, as anyone can get whatever they need.

>but everyones gonna want so much shit!

once there is an overabundance, the extreme overconsumption will go down. Our ways of always need new 'things' is a man made phenomena in our culture, and doesn't, and won't always be that way

>>410073

And of course we won't get to a society without alienated labor until full automation, basically robots working all the shit jobs nobody wants to do. which will take hundreds of years probably, but we're going to get there some day.

>>410073

you think somalia and russia had enough resources, food, supplies, shelter etc. for everyone? you think everyone liked what they did for work? Fuck no, and hence it's not true communism. sorry for splitting my post into 3 different ones lol

>>410082
If your point depends on a gross over supply of all resources, then it is unrealizable

>>410090

Yes my point (the point of communism) depends on that. and sure it seems unrealistic now, but think of in hundreds of years. if society doesnt destroy itself/earth first, we will eventually get there

>>410082
Also, regarding
>once there is an overabundance, the extreme overconsumption will go down
the exact opposite has historically been true.
>Our ways of always need new 'things' is a man made phenomena in our culture, and doesn't, and won't always be that way
Have you never heard of deer populations that explode during one season and then starve to death the next? Bacteria that kill their hosts despite that being a death sentence for themselves?
Abundance inevitably leads to increased consumption.

>>410091
In hundreds of years, it will be far worse. Resources are simply finite.

>>410082
> and won't feel the need to compete or get ahead
that won't work.

to quote Schopenhauer:
>"But if all wishes were fulfilled as soon as they arose, how would men occupy their lives? what would they do with their time? If the world were a paradise of luxury and ease, a land flowing with milk and honey, where every Jack obtained his Jill at once and without any difficulty, men would either die of boredom or hang themselves; or there would be wars, massacres, and murders; so that in the end mankind would inflict more suffering on itself than it has now to accept at the hands of Nature."

>>410098
>or there would be wars
internet flame wars maybe

>>410094

we've never historically gotten to the point where people can have whatever resources they need for free.

>comparing deer to humans
we're a lot smarter than deer. the way humans consume right because of our capitalist mind sets is honestly fucking disgusting.

your last point i also disagree. I think of it like what would you do if you won the lottery and could just do whatever the fuck you want and not have to worry about anything. Personally i would play music, make art, read books, travel, exercise, have sex, etc. and also, in said 'perfect world communist society', there would surely still be jobs people have to do. just ones that people WANT to do

>>410106
>we're a lot smarter than deer
No shit, but you were touting hyperconsumption as a "man made phenomena"

>we've never historically gotten to the point where people can have whatever resources they need for free
Also no shit. Can't tell if I'm being baited here.
In a world where people could have whatever they wanted for free, there would be no economic system at all, as there would be no reason to trade, as everyone would have everything.

>>410123

In terms of consumption, I'm talking more on a material level, not one of basic resources needed to survive like the deer.

To your second point, you realize that's the point of communism.

Maybe you should have spent some time eating vegetables and moving around a little bit in between reading about the stock market OP

>>410128
>In terms of consumption, I'm talking more on a material level, not one of basic resources needed to survive like the deer.
So you're concern is people overconsuming things that other people don't need anyway?

>that's the point of communism
Setting aside whether that's actually true, you earlier said that "true" communism depended on overabundance on resources. So, for true communism to exist, it must come about when everyone has everything they want for free, which can only be brought about by communism?

>>410139

Sure, people will still consume, but not at the level of how we do now.

Communism doesn't come about WHEN everyone gets what they want for free, that's a bi-product. It's simply realizing that the resources are there (and for Marx I guess here is where the revolution would be)

>>410053
>true communism has never been put into practice
And it never will be. It's fundamentally flawed and can't work in reality.

>>410152

Well if you're not going to provide any concrete points I won't either. You're wrong.

You guys all do realize the negative connotation that comes with communism is all a product of US propaganda? Why is everyone so closed minded to the idea that communism could work one day (definitely not now or in the near future), and that it could be better than Capitalism. I'm a Capitalist, hence the fact that I'm on this god damn board. But I'm open to the thought of Communism one day taking over and being a good thing for the world.

>>410174

I'm the guy you responded to (ID: B/hXNYoj), switched locations and thus my ID switched lol

>>409977
Well now you won't have to worry about it.

And although this is bit of wibble washy. I've heard/read that one of the best ways to be happy is to have genuine and meaningful relationships with other people.

>>410174
It's 4chan and it's late, I'm not going to write a paper as to why communism can't work on here, particularly since those papers already exist and are easy to search for. Communism just makes assumptions about resources and human nature that simply aren't justifiable.

>>410181

>human nature

hahahahahaha

>>410174
Propaganda? Were reporting the deaths of hundreds of millions of people propaganda? Communism simply cannot work with large societies. The allocation of resources on a large scale will always need some sort of central authority to plan the mass distribution of goods among the populous. No I'm not talking about a government, but you need organizations, leaders, people on top managing the logistic of shipping and determining who should get what. What's great about having markets and prices is that the allocation of resources does everything by itself. How much shit is there? Oh that much, how much can I sell it for? Oh people are willing to pay at most that. Hey, if I made more, I could sell more. Hey, now I've got more but people aren't buying any more than they were because the price is too high. Better lower the price. ect.

>>410191
Yes, let's assume everyone is a perfectly rational human being with absolutely benevolent purpose in mind.

>>409968
Wanna mentor me OP? I'll give you a reason to live and pay you some money when I'll make money off of your strategies.

>>409968
>I'll tell you one thing and that is if I could go back in time I would rather go homeless.

No you wouldn't, because then you would have neither your health nor your money. Being homeless sucks major ass mate.

Now, I suspect the real reason money didn't make you happy is because of an underlying psychological issue. If you're using money to buy happiness, you're doing it wrong. Money just enables one to live a comfortable enough lifestyle to give them a chance to _pursue_ their happiness on their own terms.

hey op
you should get married bro
fuck her up
then you'll have kids to worry about
then go to soc
they'll help with the rest

>>410021
Shitpost on the old 4chinz and play vidya

Your issue was getting the money to be happy instead of thinking what to DO with money to be happy

If I were you I'd travel the planet and get into all kinds of mystical shit

I'd throw bangin get together for my friends and financially emancipate my immediate family

I'd get all kinds of licenses for the shit of it. Boating, helicopter, monster truck, who the hell cares

I'd also invest in super advanced classes to learn all kinds of things that normal people can't afford to learn. Combat, survival skills, lip reading, improvised medical aid, knife training, shit why not

I'd become a collector of something or several things, because I could afford to actually collect things

I'd use my absurd wealth to buy my way into a cushy government position and die I'm my office chair from filet mignon-stuffed lobster-induced heart attack with a secretary blowing my dead but rigor mortis- hardened veiny old man reptile cock

Fuck you, anon. Just for that I'm gonna get rich to and order you a whole buncha elephant shit. It's only 40.00 a pound, happy early Christmas motherfucker

>>410106
>the way humans consume right because of our capitalist mind sets is honestly fucking disgusting.
Born and raised in Sweden. Sister had to repeat grade 4-6 maths twice after she'd finished it in grade 4 with far above adequate results on the exams to appease the Handicapper General.

If that don't prevent me from getting any capitalist mindset not human nature instilled in me I don't know what, aside from a lobotomy, that would. I'm getting a degree in Economics, shooting for a CFA and trying my best to get a shot at a green card so I don't have to be taxed out the wazoo working almost solely to support people unwilling to do so themselves.

>>410236
Bam.

Why is this so hard to grasp for people?

The law of impermanence of all form nerds. Cultures are screaming it at you from thousands of years ago. Hedonism will lead to suffering. Greed , suffeeing. Lust, suffeeing. Its all dust in the wind.

Find some balance

>>409968
Money isn't evil: the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Money isn't inherently good or bad.

Also, that is the saddest looking penguin I've ever seen. Which cartoon is it from?

What the hell did you enjoy doing when you were broke? Why can' t you just do it now?

What did you ever do for fun or happiness that wasn't based on getting richer? Isn't there something you can WATCH?

The issue with people like you isn't that your money can't make you happy.

You don't know how to BE happy

I hear you OP.

Living in a tent in the woods would be awesome.

That's what you should do - just run. Run far away. Become a wandering homeless man, but one that's just fine with it.

Completely abandon society, I'm sure it would clear your head.

>>409968
Just think about all the plebs you have defeated. They're stuck working their crappy 9-5 jobs and you have transcended that monotony. Not to mention some 3rd worlder dying of disease, hunger or whatever. All you need to be happy is to take joy in the misery of those sadder than you.

>>409968
So you can't learn about money while eating healthy and exercising?

Hey ive seen this before the only cure is this
>catch plane to kauai
>theres a colony of people that mostly live unintruded upon beyond the Kalalau trail.
>I'll guide you there for 200000
>bring booze theyll usually trade all kinds of stuff for booze, had a craving for potatoe chip and they cooked up these awesome taro chips

>>409968
>/biz/ what's the point?
>I'm an "intelligent investor".
Doubt it.
>My networth grew significatly over the past few years.
Highly unlikely.
>I'm literally couple of years away from being able to retire way before my income/age cohort.
No you aren't.
>Yet money didn't make me happy.
Depression.
>My health is shit because I dedicated years to learn about money.
Shit genetics.
>I'll tell you one thing and that is if I could go back in time I would rather go homeless.
So do that now? Redistribute all your money to poor people, in exchange for their box in the alley.
>Money is evil.
No it isn't. You are just to stupid and didn't find a balance between living life, and making money to support your lifestyle.

Get your communist libtard bullshit off \biz\