/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>4007397
source? or did this just come out of your mind because you "have a feeling"?

Source please....

Can only give a hint...p...p

https://us.money2020.com/agenda-monday
3:20-3:40 Paypal CEO "Partnering for Purpose" 3:40-4:00 SVP Global industry platforms IBM "How AI & Blockchain Could Eliminate Risk & Reward Trade-Offs"
Tuesday 3:10-4:00 CEO of Worldremit, then VP of Paypal, then Jed Co founder of Stellar, lastly CEO of earthport - "Reimagining Cross-Border Payments: Simpler, Faster, Cheaper & More Accessible"

Paypal VP and Stellar CEO are speaking together. Hmmm

There was a special announcement at the end of the month. I'm buying back in right as everyone starts to shift into BTC for Gold.

d-do I buy back in?

May need to be wary again at least.
Made some decent gains on the last moon mission.

>>4007506
what the fuck do you think? are you reading this thread or what?

>>4007397
dumping as we speak

>>4007549
>h-huhhhhh its dumping guys!!! XDDD hurrrrr

>what is holding support
do you even look at charts brainlet?

>>4007577
oh yeah sick supports
lmao
breaking one after another, this is the well known steps to hell/your room in the basement pattern
there is no bottom here.
the pattern resolves in a disgusting clingy mess

>>4007549
dumping
500 sats is the floor now, not likely to go much lower than that anytime soon

Ya, it's not new news people. We've known Stellar is speaking at 20/20. They're just advertisements from businesses, to businesses. XLM aint gonna Moon. The volume isn't there and BTC aint crashing.

>>4007626
thats how you know when it breaks500 sats

>>4007397
XLM gonna moon lmao

its going to dump HARD
even better that theres a conference tomorrow, you know why?
because its
P R I C E D I N
deluded lumies are going to join cripples and linkies in bagholder hell

>>4007397
every one of these shitcoins partnering with well established companies to do these presentations ends up not being what people think ie announcing a official partnership with shitcoin A

Its priced in already

getting ready to short

bye bye deluded lumies

>>4007805
upon sending this, i checked back and xlm had shit itself

>>4007664
dumb fuck they already announced a partnership with ibm. Get your head out of your ass fucking boomer.

this is the whales exit dumping
you have no more hope deluded lumies

>>4007621
>Oct 21-22 chart
Dr. /biz/ PhD dropping the sick TA science as usual

dr phd called that mega dump just now you noob
see you in hell
that was just a sign of things to come

>>4007889
dumbshit it hasn't mega dumped. I told you get your head out of your ass boomer.

Dumping for now, will rebuy once it gets to 450 or some shit maybe even lower.

>>4007868
Literal text book bull flag.
I'll be driving my lambo on Mars soon fagget.

>>4007902
you stupid moron, you see that HUGE volume spike?
that was smart money EXITING
>>4007912
oh yeah nice bull flag with HUGE red candles that out do 15 green ones
cant even price action and he expects bull flags
lmao

>>4007919
Do you not know how a fucking bull flag works?
It's suppose to descend with highs and low parallel to each other forming a rectangular shape.

Let them cry :) never felt more compfy holding something than XLM now.

>>4007919
this is the last time I'm gonna waste my valuable time replying to a boomer. Get your head out of your ass this is a token that's about to be used for billions of dolalrs of cross currency payments in multiple countries. It literally has to go up in value to accommodate the institutions using it to send money. You need to learn the difference between your ass and a hole in the ground you retarded fucking boomer.

>>4007951
insiders literally painting the chart for you delumies and you refuse to acknowledge it
HUGE dump volume and you're like "ah..yesyes bull flag"
bull flags dont confirm until they break up wards and you just got a huge sell signal in the middle of the tentative flag you scrub
patterns have a less than 50% chance of completion and you would know that if you did 2 seconds of research
this is the very basics behind TA and you dont understand it, pathetic
massive long that just closed on poloniex because they know whats going to happen to lumies tomorrow : ))
>>4007965
I'm 21, I have blonde hair and blue eyes and am the literal finition of a chan. banged more girls than you'll ever dream of you ugly fat autist
you dont even know what the fuck lumens is used for you pathetic basement dwelling scrub, as your """investment""" tanks down 50% from its highs. IBM is old news you noob, you dont even understand the basic economic principles . noone is pumping lumies on week old news you fucking moron nigger, you're down 50% right now, enjoy it you uggo.

You stupid nignog paddywogs never learn, we already had a million fucking conferences, from golem to linkies to cripple and you STILL think "this time its different" and lumies will pump instead of DUMP on the OLD NEWS thats already PRICED IN
Youre all done, none of you will make it

>>4007912
>formed in 0.5 seconds
>textbook bull flag guys, nothing to see here

>>4007965
>it can only go up sirs

>>4007965
Can we please stop using the word boomer as an insult? It sound so utterly autistic and straight from a fucking brainlet 13 year old fucking retard

My predictions.
Bull flag.
Wall on 504 followed by a smaller wall on 503.
Conference tomorrow. If you want to fud this then I'll let you know even shit coins like Ripple and Link pumped to the fucking moon the night before the conference. It only dumped during conference and I don't plan to hold this when that shit dumps. All you need to know is MOON TONIGHT.

>>4007996
200$ you bought at 900 SAT kek, stop raging child, go to sleep and regain so energy so you can invest your other 20$ tomorrow! :)

i fucking love streetshitter generals, people get so heated up over dense as fuck lumies screaming "fuckeen moooon" every sat

>>4008029
enjoy the bags see you at 1 satoshi maybe I'll bless you with my chad bucks
anything I buy with them pumps btw
pic related, its the head and shoulders pattern waiting to fuck your shit down to 300 satoshis before you bleed out for the next 3 years to 1 sat

SHABOOEY IS MY BLESSING FOR XLM

>>4008046
>patterns have a less than 50% chance of completion and you would know that if you did 2 seconds of research
>this is the very basics behind TA and you dont understand it, pathetic

Duuuude :) at least stick to your own words.. pretty sad :S

>>4007996
How fucking idiotic do you have to be to look at lumens use case and actually give a flying fuck what tiny individual investors do on a day to day basis. Let me explain some basic fucking economics to your fucking fat retarded ass. TD bank wants to send tens of millions of dollars cross currency to another bank over the course of a single day. They use a market maker to buy the fucking lumens from the market and then sell it to a liquidity provider on the otherside who inherits the risk of the lumens losing value. Now if your tiny mind can comprehend I want you to think of this on the actual scale that the news has indicated it will be which is billions of dollars of transfers per day. Then realize that as the number of transfers increases the coin velocity will increase leading to more fucking volume. As the volume approaches certain thresholds market makers will increase the fucking price because the demand to transfer money keeps going up, and an increase in market price allows more currency to transfer at its current velocity. Which leads to a massive upward trend until the coin market cap reaches at least 10 billion to accommodate the institutions using the coin to transfer value. I know everything I just said was too complicated for your retarded autistic ass, but maybe someday you'll understand.

btw you deluded ugly alt coiners I the CHAD investor am 90% in btc right now, you would do well to follow suit and get the guaranteed bgold money futures on trex instead of holding your depreciating assests
>>4008074
notice how I the CHAD investor used the world "waiting" as I make no unnecessary declarations about patterns and simply pointed out the bear case for this shitcoin which is STILL bleeding down AS I SPEAK when all you can see is "muh bull falg!!!!!"

stupid moronic altcoiner doesnt even realize when king chad coin is about to fucking moon and holds onto his ugly little pathetic alts
how sad
good thing I, a chad, can relate to my fellow chad bitcoin and knows when he's about to moon and crush your ugly little lumie market

>>4008086
lol I'm not even going to read that nerd
lumies is still going down as I speak and broke your precious little support just as its been doing ALL DAY
soon we will see the big daddy dump candle to

>>4008096
time to go outside

>>4008086
> not sure if elaborate troll or serious

>>4007996
>>4008046
>im going to reference some random ourlier that happened on ONE exchange
>yeah its totally going to dip
Nigga if that shit pumped to 560 in an instant I would be selling that shit too. You're not helping your case.

>>4008114
guess whose about to go green when all the shitty little fag alts are bleeding you dumb nerd
good thing I the chad investor can see overall market conditions unlike you delumies

>>4008096
Dude do whatevery makes you happy. I am sure you are a real chad, living on hollywood driving your lambo to fuck emma watson every day i get it :). I wish you all the best, try to find at least a bit of happiness in you life and dont definre yourself by your wealth. I'm sure you have a lot of phantasies going for you and all, grow up, try to enjoy you early 20s a bit, go out, see things and travel while you still can. <3 Take care bro.

>>4008121
poloniex is the only exchange that matters for lumies you fucking retarded moron as it offers MARGIN TRADING so whales that control the market 3x their stack and make money shorting as well as long
notice how UGLY trex charts are compared to poloniex, thats because poloniex is perfectly controlled and noone gives a shit about trex
theres also a massive delta (yes I just used to world delta you uggo) in volume btw the two exchanges as well
see you delumies at 0 sats, go ahead and bury your head into the sand
king chad coin is above 6k again btw noobs, I hope you enjoyed your alt coin fakeout for 2 days

>>4008118
I get it you didn't understand what you read so you figured you'd just type something retarded. Read it again slower.

>>4008145
xD i always wonder, do you "feel" the rage while you are in the "moment"? Or do people just type shit like this with a cold smile? I was ALWAYS wondering, can someone elaborate?

>>4008170
stay made because I the chad investor take immediate action instead of sitting there motionless at the charts hoping it will go up for no apparent reason when the market is clearly screaming to exit
bye bye delumies, go ahead and fantasize about how us chads operate, you'll never be one so thats the least we can offer you
you're about to dump past 500 sats btw, when it closes under that 300 sats is a flick away

>>4008185
Byebye bro, sleep well :). Put some of you BTC money into XLM, that way you can afford a therapist one day <3.

>>4007996
>im a chad I swear im not larping and that makes me REALLY SMART

Jesua Christ, fuck off normalfag. I'm an accountant and a law school student myself, and am disgusted with your express faggotry.

>>4008166
Wait so you honestly think "billions of dollars" will be transferred over lumens? As in, banks will buy billions of dollars worth of lumen in the process exposing themselves to extreme volatility, just to make money transfers?

>>4008197
id say im sorry your lumie """investment""" went wrong but I've been warning you lumies for far too long
>>4008199
>accountant
ha, fucking nerd I dump your kind into the toliets

WE are testing 500 SAT support once more, this has happened 3 times already, and will happan again maybe noone knows. Several million XLM buyorders at 500 - 504 :), everything will be good guys, and even if it dips. Dont sell, dont show weak hands, and take profits when it goes ac to 800 again. /Repeat.

>>4008201
Like I said read it slower. They buy through something called a market maker with a prenegotiated sell with something called a liquidity provider. This means that the market maker sets a price of say 500 satoshis which they already bought at market overtime to sell to the fucking bank. The bank transfers the money to the other bank who has a prenegotiated arrangement to sell the fucking lumens to what you call a liquidity provider for the same 500 lumens, or to the market maker for the 500 lumens. The market maker then sets the next price at 501 satoshis for example in order to pick up the spread. Do you get it? NO volatility for banks.

>>4007397
I'll just leave this here...

>>4008232
yes sit there and hope big daddy chad coin doesnt moon all over your shitty little shitcoin just by going up 5%, thats all you can do

>11PM
How about a time zone

this shit is literally being dumped by whales look at the order books, im shorting and getting back in at 400 sats see yall there

>>4008258
I dont really care if it moons m8, take you 5% and be happy :D. If it gains another 5% to 10% you will even be able to buy that happy meal you always wanted.

>>4008242
yeah thanks for explaining the concept of underwriting to me, you are very smart. You are missing the question though, do you seriously believe billions of dollars will be transferred?

>>4008283
unfortunately for you my chadroll is so big that 5% is likely 100x your networth
not to mention I go 100x long with no fear, thats how chads roll your fucking noob
coin has only gone lower and lower with a massive player exiting and delumies are just hoping for the best
maybe it breaks upwards but just know you are all pathetic regardless and subject to the chad coins will

>>4008307

Why are you so angry? Would you like to talk about it? I'm here for you man.

is this news coming out at 11:00? I have my account ready to buy in..

>>4008307
Can you please explain more? What exactly do you mean?

>>4008307
a chad wouldnt keep calling himself a chad

>>4008328
nice projection you ugly nerd
as a chad I have no emotions in the market aas I understand they are completely worthless, but I can call people deluded ugly lumies when I want
>>4008335
there is no news thats good you poor faggot, last time IBM broke a falling wedge had formed and broken upwards BEFORE the news came out and was thus priced in on the chart by insiders
currently this shitcoin is just going lower and lower so your hopes for news are ridiculously slim
>>4008340
a chad does what a chad wants
>>4008339
I am the chad, you are the nerd. i can dump you in the toliet any time I want. lumie is the nerd and bitcoin is the chad in crypto. sometimes the chad lets the nerd walk by but with the chad is flexing noone wants to be near the nerd.

>>4008306
he's not quite being honest, volume would only ever go through lumens if lumens were a part of the path found by the DEX as the cheapest option at the moment, which implies that every lumens/fiat pair will need to have tons of liquidity, magnitudes more than it does now. the volume in it isn't exactly what most people would call natural looking.

>>4008358
Thank you :). You entertained me by pouring your time and emotions into this thread I passively check every couple if minutes. I will no longer entertain a conversation with you, you start to bore me. Bye :)

>>4008358

I think you may actually be a pajeet pretending to be a chad, thinking that being a chad is actually a good thing.

>>4008373
I'm typing this with my pubic hair you retard, it takes zero effort
>>4008377
ugly nerd

>>4008377
Psshh dont tell him. Hahahaha ah he is just a troll, but sometimes you need one when it gets boring and you have to wait for your trades.

itt retard autists think being chad isn't being #1 in life

>>4008383
Oh shit, sorry.

That said, I just noticed that he can't spell 'toilet', so definitely a pajeet. Bet he can spell 'street'.

>>4008306
When IBM says the expect it to take up 60 percent of cross currency transfers.
In 2014 the cross currency outstanding swaps totaled 1.4 trillion. So even if IBM is wrong and the estimate is large than yes I expect billions of dollars transferred its a no fucking brainer.

lmao nerd inspect words for typos when I'm typing with my pubes and he strains to have perfect punctuation

>>4008408

Sorry for making you feel stupid dude. Typing correctly just comes naturally when you live in a first world country.

I still love you even if you're a brainlet.

>>4008254
sitting comfy we are going to the moon. either its an incredible coincidence or a ***partnership*** either way can't be bad

>>4008365
Lumens are literally the path outlined in the press release. Also it will always be the cheapest path because going through lumens a digital asset as long as volume and velocity remains high, as it will, will always be cheaper for banks because they don't have to keep foreign currency on hand as they do now.

>>4008396
Don't make this misstake m8. We are not investing in shares, or something that has inherent value. The transaction fees will always stay the same and there is 1% inflation by new tokens beeing created per year. This is super hardcore speculation, but very profitable in the mid term. Don't make the misstake by thinking the tokens themself will have real value in a couple of years, be ready to sell after you take your x2 - x5 whatever. This is the same as ripple, only more profitable in the next months, and with about 10 times the room to grow :). 1:1 repeat of the tulip mania, just know that you are speculating and take your pfotis, nothing more nothing less.

>>4008396
through lumens yeah? Note, I'm not talking about their dex in general, I'm talking about lumens carrying billions in transactions with enough liquidity. You believe that?

so buy now or hop on later? I need to go to bed.

>>4008425
of course not IBM even said they intend to switch to a central bank native asset as soon as the technology exists. I'm investing the currency for the midterm which will increase in value as long as volume of transactions by banks and other groups goes up, once it levels off it will literally only depreciate over time. I'm expecting a 10x to 20x then I'm out.

>>4008442

Buy and set stop loss for something like 480 sats

>>4008426
Yes..... explain how that won't happen.

>>4008454
Ok nice :)

>>4008442
should not matter if you are not planning to sell within the day. +-500 is eligible once it reaches 600+

>>4008420
enjoy the bags, coin still lower than when this thread was posted
I'm a chad noone cares about some autists spelling bee lmao
have you even touched a female?

>>4008472
do you understand what liquidity is? You are talking about billions remember.

>>4008442
Buy now.

>>4008506
Yes of course I understand what liquidity is. Right now the asset is not liquid because buying in large amounts has massive price impact. In other words the price has to go up for banks to use it as they have said they are going to do.

>>4008492
Yes, I'm a father.

Hope you have an awesome night dude :)

>>4008254
lol dank photoshop

>>4008526
I will, currently banging your daughter and son simultaneously

99.9% of cryptocurrency exists in obscurity. 0.1% is actually known to the larger economy. Stellar Lumens is in this 0.1% due to their partnership with IBM. That right there gives them immense value and a very bright future. Can you say P A Y P A L ?

I'm ready for the pump , we will start soon

but 99% of the lumens in circulation on exchanges were the 16 billion lumens airdropped proportionally to bitcoin holders who now have to play a second prisoner's dilemma where they all have to work together to lift up the lumens price so they can all exit by creating a new generation of bagholders
if you want to see how this dynamic works, check out the shill/price cycle that comes with forks.
you're playing a whales game.

>>4008454
I don't get it. You are shilling a 20× runup with some fourthhand rumor of a vague association with IBM, yet scoff at the potential of a 4x XRP runup due to real associations with Microsoft/ Paypal/ Amazon, etc. Has /biz/ just become a irrelevant fake rumor pump and dump board? What gives? Pic very related.

Guys what is this 30 billion in CNY? Updated 3 hours ago? What?

>>4008582
Ripple had bernanke talk.
Nuff said.
Don't need more irresponsible Obama appointed Jews.

>>4008582
>OEiIfpwR
First off the association with IBM is neither vague nor offhand nor a rumour. It's a confirmed partnership by press releases from IBM. Second of all XRP is currently valued at about 20x from stellar and we expect stellar to reach the same value or higher because it's partnerships are more impressive than XRP but not go any higher. Lastly, XRP has no actual association with Microsoft paypal or amazon as of now.

>>4008582
>some fourthhand rumor of a vague association with IBM

Here's your "rumor of vague association."

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/16/ibm-has-a-new-blockchain-for-banks-to-speed-up-cross-border-payments.html

>>4008599
W H A L E S G A M E

>>4008582
yeah I think ben bernanke shilling XRP was very bearish and also ripples market cap is already 8-9 billion? Banking on it being 36 billion for a 4x is way less likely than a 4x with ripple. just saying

>>4008521
And you think this will happen, billions of dollars worth no less, between relatively insignificant assets? In other words, lumens will be inherently more liquid than any other cross asset exchange directly through Stellar's dex?

>>4008599
What exactly is this?

>>4008599
probably a glitch

>>4008666
Coinmarket cap website. Markets pull down for lumens

>>4008609
Maybe I am autistic, but I do not see XLM or IBM in the Ripple / Microsoft / Amazon Governing Association deciding the future fate of Crypto.

>>4008679
No i literally menat, W T F is this hahaha. Yeah i see it as welll oO very impressive to say the least, must be an error no?

>>4008599
I noticed this and capped it yesterday about 28 hours ago. It's been there that long at least.

yeah most likely a glitch :)

going to sleep , what is a decent sell order to set on this

wow lumies 4 green candles in a row! you moved up 20 sats l o l

1 red will wipe all of that out
>>4008745
520 sats

>>4008689
You're not autistic, you're just a brainlet NEET. This isn't about the future of the crypto market, it's about which cryptos will gain widespread adoption and which ones will die off. As I stated earlier, with IBM's partnership and the meeting on Tuesday with Paypal, it's quite clear that Stellar has a future.

This is why is bugs me when I see so much shitcoin shilling on /biz. anons are just using these coins as lottery tickets("dude, which coin can get me a 10x in 2 days"), not as actual investments. It's much like the pink sheets in the stock market.

when is this news coming out OP?

>>4008599
I think it's a mistake. It's not showing up like that on the stellar/cny exchange itself

I'm just sitting here watching this whale accumulate about 10 BTC worth of lumen at 520. Throws 1.5BTC down, it's get chewed up, throws another down, rinse repeat. We see you!

>>4008254
stop it with this fake PayPal partnership. it doesn't pump the price up, all it does is create false expectations and disappointment in the future. it's almost as bad as the fucking OmiseGo & Apple logo fake partnership bullshit. it's toxic as fuck.

t. XLM bagholder

on the first week of April there was about $375M USD transacted in XLM/CNY on btc38, mostly buys, representing a volume of ~100B XLM for an average price of about half a cent or 0.0222 CNY.
really makes you think.

>>4008849
I don't think it's meant to pump the price up. XLM is a mid-long term hold, not a PnD shitcoin. The rumors have some real weight behind them though. The 2 companies are meeting together on Tuesday. This is confirmed from the money20/20 website.

Its after 11... OP didnt deliver

>>4009027
Possibly 11 being earliest. One it hits 504 it will rocket!

>>4009169
but pajeet, it's above 504 and has already hit it multiple times and it's showing pretty bullish signs at those levels
don't you mean...420?

>>4009169
ok, whatever dude. Yeah, I see the 13BTC sitting at 504 too. Big deal. Been eating up these whales all day. You don't know shit.

>>4009195
bearish* fucking pumpers have the word bullish INGRAINED into my consciousness

https://www.stellar.org/how-it-works/stellar-basics/explainers/

ctrl f paypal

it's been under your nose all along

>>4009219
Ahmed. Didn't Jeff Foxworthy have a puppet named Ahmed the Dead Terrorist? Breddy funny tbhfam.

>>4009207
>>4009219
none of this is new information, stellar was given tons of seed funding by paypal cofounder keith rabois
ALL lumens are being given away at no cost and are the inflationary toys of whales and the stellar foundation.

Fuck should I buy? I've been fucked over by XLM and biz before but seems cheap atm and will probably sell after it rises a bit.

>>4009427
People are FUDing it hard, so definitely a good time to buy.

I checked the schedule and that presentation with paypal/stellar isn't until Tuesday around 3pm, right? So unless I misread something, we still got time right?

>>4007397
wtf i got banned accessing their website lol

>>4009486
Same, their DDoS protection rules are just a bit overzealous. CloudFlare fucked up.

That sell wall at 510 and 516 tho.

>>4009508
Just found IBM talking about crypto.
Don't know if this has been posted yet but check out the speaker.
https://us.money2020.com/sessions/big-tech-meets-fintech-how-ai-blockchain-could-eliminate-risk-reward-trade-offs

howa re those bags nerds

>>4009544
pretty good, i 3x'd on the first few runs and took out half, so now i've got a big bag for free when this goes to the mooooon

>>4007466
>>4007488
The fuck are you dipshits getting this info from?

>>4009588
how about learning to use google fuckwit
money2020 conference
you're welcome

>>4009544
pajeet alert

>>4009588
https://us.money2020.com/sessions/reimagining-cross-border-payments-simpler-faster-cheaper-more-accessible

>>4009198
>I see the 13BTC sitting at 504 too

noob here, mind elaborating this sentence? Where do you see this orders exactly? Thanks a lot

>>4008519
This stock is heavily manipulated (Taking nothing away from XLM, it is a decent product but an easy target for scammers).

>>3993493
>>3993493

Pic: The walls they put up this morning. This is when you sell. I said yesterday before I went to bed they were setting up to pump it later and they have.

>>4010904

Notice the start of a pump, buy in the dip and sell into their bots at the wall. Don't let them take your money by bag holding! The only way they stop is if they cash flow stops. The rocket ship and IMB contract has made this crypto easy to shill and P&D.

You have been warned. They do it to many others too but this one is their favorite right now.

Not disagreeing with you, but XLM , XRP, NEO, and ETH will attract 5-10 BTC buys from time to time. 1.4 isn't crazy - especially as conversations of a Flippening between XRP & XLM are in the air and major financial institutions are interested?