/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>3987681
XLMARINES BLASTING OFF AGAIIIIIIIIINNN

ayeeeeeee

Back under 500. What's habbening guise

>>3987742
Its hovering. WHALES WE NEED YOU

>>3987720
nah bruh we're the lumenauts now
dis pump gon be gud

WTF!? As buttcoin goes up this goes down.
THIS IS A FUCKING SCAM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Shoud i sell into btc or eth?

>>3988079
dollars bruh

>>3988094
Havent verified my id on any exchanges. Should i sell into ETH, due to BTC dump?

This is the story of how I get back my Link losses.

here we go boiys

COME ON COME ON

Thx for the heads up
Gonna be a nice 40% probs

every paid group is saying the TA looks like this is going to hit 1.0-1.2k sat today

>>3988210
Source?

>>3988210
TA pro here , i agree

>>3988210
I somehow doubt this. 600, most likely. 700, possible. 800, unlikely by today.

volume growing nice and steady on bittrex , i'm going to take a shower , don't do anything crazy while im gone

it will hit resistance at 600 drop back to 500 then whales will accumulate and we will head for 700+

>>3987681
>mfw its literally a rocket
>mfw biz says its a shit
>mfw biz wants to go to the moon
what the fuck is wrong with u?

>>3987681
any news? why this pump?

>>3988237
If you look at the chart, this was 1000 sat 3 days ago.

>>3988257
So should i short it at 580-600?

>>3988260
well rumors of 20/20, nothing much. apart from being ridiculously underpriced. i mean comon 0.046 was surely overhyped but back to pre IBM levels?

>>3988267
Due to the giant unprecedented news of IBM partnership. Is there any unprecedented news today?

>>3988267
You been living under a rock?

>>3988260
BTC is dumping, many alts boosted a little right now

>>3988284
It's building new levels of support with high volume. I don't know if it'll hit 1000 sat today, but it's not out of the question.

>>3988278
I heard some rumours of a new partner tomorrow. Also IBM is part of Hyperledger, doesn't that makes Stellar a part of it too? Little reminder : The governing board of the Hyperledger Project consists of twenty members chaired by Blythe Masters, (CEO of Digital Asset) sauce wikipedia.

Nice, I always seem to buy at fresh highs. 530 sats, fuck my lifee

> see xlm pumpin
> about to buy
> see /biz/ shillling thread appearing
not buyin, this is just some p&d and it will probably dump soon

>>3988341
you will be fine this time

Do you think that's it? Seems to have lost momentum

buying more

>>3988341
No use comparing BTC/sat price right now.

>>3988383
Do yourself a favor; buy into XLM right now. Go for a hike. Come back at the end of the day, and enjoy your 40% gains. You can thank me later.

>>3988528
too much people shilling makes it obvious, but i'd love to join ur group so I can shill with you guys and make some sweet gainz

>>3988383
>pump and dump
>top 25 marketcap coin
topkek you're never gonna make it, brah

>>3988560
Well don't buy now

all alts will be going up from here , i mean all
so it doesn't matter what you buy now

Short lived pump. BTC is still rising, XLM will hit 700sats after the fork but will dip to 350-400 sats before then.

Cap this.

500 is the floor btw

>>3988630
We are sitting at 490 sats and 500 is the floor? Huh.

Fuck this, I ALWAYS BUY AT THE WRONG TIME REEEEEEEEE

>>3988662
should have listened to me this is a p&d

>>3988668
its not LOL

>>3988653
plus/minus

>>3988668
a pnd from 420 sats to 540 hmm...
have you ever been in a pnd?

>>3988662
You're not playing slots at the casino, you fucking noob. Learn to trade and ride out the dips like a man. For fucksake, there's some serious retards on /biz. Stay poor.

aaaand here we go

glad i bought that shit for a quarter cent

>>3988731
to the fucking moon!
not

>>3988764
lol

be patient

GUYS BUY MORE NEED FUEL WTF

>>3988827
a fresh 10k reporting in sir

>>3988827
we need btc to go sub 6k again

bought 25k ugh

We're going to 1250 sats tonight boys!

we will make it , one way or another

>>3988927
No we are fucking not, we are already out of fuel

>>3988951
ye of little faith

>>3988951
Price is shooting up right fucking now

>>3988951
fookin wot m8? volume still increasing, back over 500sats, probly be at 520 shortly

I think /biz needs to learn what a pump and dump is. I've been stock trading, mostly pennies, for upwards of 15 years. A pump and dump is a coordinated price manipulation of a small cap equity. A PnD is not based on any sort of substantial news. XLM is not a PnD as it's rise is based on its partnership with IBM. Simple as that.

Buywall getting higher at 484 SATS & moving up.It's happening!

>>3989016
A good example of a PnD group is the Palm Beach Group. This guy comes out, recommends a coin, based on nothing but speculation and good feels. There's nothing substantial behind his sentiments other than, "durr, this could be a game changer."

>>3989016
There are multiple factors, the temporary btc dump and rumour of more news today

>>3989076
it's Palm Beach Research Group, the guy behind it literally spends his day researching the best long term investing opportunity, they don't care about PnD, they make 5000% ROI on their investment

>>3989098
Absolutely. You have to believe that, if Stellar is able to secure a partnership with IBM, there will be other global tech companies who follow suit. IBM's seal of approval will mean more and partnerships for Stellar.

>>3989135
>yeah I just see that ROI on their investment hur dur baguette fag here

>>3989136
and it's also good in crypto in general

there is so much room in this space , we are all going to make it

>>3989136
I'm not discrediting his knowledge. I'm simply saying, there's no wide scale market news that moves his coins. They only move because he recommends them, not because there's been real world mass adoption of the coins he recommends. He's pure PnD, The fact that people pay him $3000 for a sub is laughable. People will catch on though.

>>3989175
I tagged the wrong post on this. Was responding to the guy who is defending Palm Beach Group.

>>3989175
paid pnd groups create self-fulfilling prophecy. if they didn't pay to know what to buy they would be a lot less likely to follow through. Its shitty but makes a lot of sense. the bigger the group the better.

>>3989175
the hype his monthly report generate are some kind of PnD, and he condemn that himself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojjvCiCXr3A&t=75s
I'm no member of this group but so far the calls he made (Neo at 13 cents, monero at 2 dollars and the list goes on).

>>3989228
Here's the thing with PnD groups; the only people who listen to them are traders. The market doesn't pay attention. The market is looking for real news about crypto adoption in the real world, not speculation from some youtuber. XLM's partnership with IBM is a good example of what the Market pays attention to. Its' something that everyone can see, not just the traders who are looking for the next PnD.

bull confirmation on 5min chart

>>3989262
What i'm saying is PnD are a day trader thing, these guys are long term investor, they don't give a shit about 100-200% ROI

>>3989261
Any joker could have made those calls. "Hm, I think this will go up." Yeah, no shit, every crypto is going to go up eventually. It's a new market and mass is adoption is in the near future.

Oct. 22-25
>Jed McCaleb
>Co-Founder
>Stellar Development Foundation
https://us.money2020.com/speakers

>>3989262
paid pnd groups aren't on youtube they are in telegram or slack.

Plus most people in crypto are traders, thats a big enough group to get peoples attention. Paid pump n dump people get a coin up 40-50 percent then it gets everyone elses attention then they start buying. I've seen it happen before. doesn't work every time though. The people who really benefit from this are the ones who started the pnd group. Not only can they charge .1-.5btc to join the group, they buy the calls before they tell everyone in their group to buy. it's retarded

>>3989284
BULLSHIT. Didn't you see Teeka's pathetic youtube video yesterday about how he was so sorry that his subscribers missed out on the pump? He said he's gonna fix his leak so that only his subs get the pump first.

>>3989291
Maybe, but the guy runs a group that charges 3000 bucks yearly for membership, and he doesn't seem to lack followers, also there is so much hype around these announcements that they literally pump coins, last but not least Zencash 300% on a day. This guy and this group is pretty influential (did you see /biz/ before last release?)

>>3989341
he wasn't sorry, he condemned "stupid money", mostly greedy /biz/tards and reddit fags buying at all time high

>>3989390
He charges $3000 to people who don't know what the fuck they're doing and they have enough money to pay some other guy to think for them. They can wait for an email, plop $100k into a coin, wait a few hours, make gains, then sell and wait for next months email. PnD dude.

>>3989417
He absolutely apologized to his subscribers for being late to the pump because his shit got leaked. Deal with it. He's a PnD artist. Nothing more.

anyway xlm looks like it's consolidating now , so be ready for a move either way

It's making another big push. You on board?

>>3989455
for a sec imagine this, you heard about Pajeet research group back in the days, you got 3000 bucks for play money and join the group, why not it is the overhyped group in crypto right now. You got your first monthly recommendation, the guy recommand to put money on a slow market cap shitcoin name amtshares (lol wtf) made in china. You paid a lot to get into the group, you're pissed, but you paid, so you play the game you put 100 bucks in antshares, that's 100 bucks right not much to worry... 3month later your 100 bucks are worth 27000 bucks, you get your initial investment back, yout get your yearly subscription back.

btc dipping xlm shooting>>3989557

much safer bet then solar

WE ARE ABOVE THE CLOUD ON THE DAILY
I REPEAT WE ARE ABOVE THE CLOUD

>have a nice ass for good vibes

let's go

fuck btc is kicking butt right now, not looking good for xlm

if btc crashes from here though we may be looking at some sexy gainz

>>3989824
that's what im waiting for

but i think it will outperform btc regardless , it's one of the few non shitcoins it the green right now

>>3989845
thats why it would be a double whammy if btc goes down since it's already outperforming btc.

like 800btc volume in the lat few hours. might just be getting warmed up

>>3989891
we'll just have to wait and see

>>3989915
20,000 sats by the end of the night

>>3989926
that would make my day

>>3989926
One billions sats by tomorrow

>>3989926
i can't even say if you are trolling, that's how good you are

1 XLM = 1 BTC end of the month

>>3989974


Yes of course im trolling that would put lumens at like a 14billion usd market cap

: D

>>3990061
thanks for your honesty, i have faith in humanity again

>>3990061
but that's not a completly alien pricing from 6months to 1 year, cheers

>>3990095
true. and I'm glad i restored your faith in humanity. that was easy. haha

>>3990176
you made me lose my faith in humanity. i thought you were serious

>>3990095
true. and I'm glad i restored your faith in humanity, that was easy. haha

You made me remain indifferent on my faith in humanity.

>>3990176
Well if you look at "pro TA" pricing for today, >>3988210
>>3988231

>>3990318
watch and watch

I wanna go to bed soon guys, where to set sell orders?

>>3990385
higher then where you bought

>>3990395
501 sat
ty now I can sleep in peace

>>3990418
not higher than 550 to be safe

>>3990318
well anyone can just say that they know what paid pnd groups are saying without proof. How do we know that paid groups are actually saying that?

but if we were to moon 900-1300 sats would be my reasonable estimate. def not 20,000 sats lol

>>3990370
1k sats today, and on what dark ancient hidden knowledge you can predict that? please sensei, i'm all ears enlighten me. and plz don't tell me you are a member of pajeet research group and he just telepathicly transfer you some hidden news

>>3990445
that's not going to happen till he wakes up
prevoius resistance was around 580

>>3990482
It's actually pretty simple. 1000 sats is retracement back to its 3 day high.

Bigger pump happening at 11pm.

>>3990445
oh come on please leave them be, palmer is no PnD group, they don't give a shit about 200% ROI, they are long term investor ffs. I don't even know why anyone would think this >in4 it was a troll again, god I'm slow tonight...

>>3990482
i never said 1k today , it will get there though
i'm swinging this all day

The only thing holding this back right now are the swing traders. Once they get exhausted, the real traders will run this up fast.

>>3990518
you forgot to take one big thing in account, 3 days before they announced a big partnership

>>3990492
Until who wakes up?

>>3990541
god that must be exhausting.
Also can someone plz tell me why i'm being raped by fucking captcha at night? no i'm no fucking robot thanks for asking

>>3990556
They officially announced their partnership 6 days ago. It then ran up to 1000 sats.

Fuck these day traders with their bots. I want to see a short squeeze!

>>3990385
said he's going to bed and where to set sells>>3990582

>>3990619

a bit , but what profit inducing activity isin't

can i join the moon mission or is it too late?

>>3990541
i'm curious, how much you'll make swing trading this shit? isn't it safier, easier, simpler and sweeter to just hodl this for idk 6 month and make some sweet profit? I mean stellar is here for the long game, solid team, solid tech (more or less sold ripple tech), a centralised approached that may appeal to traditional venture capitalist and the only humanitarian project in the crypto place. Anyway, that's what i'm doing and i've done good so far, sell on time that cover all my investment, meaning that from now on i didn't pay a penny for my bags and i'm only making profit

>>3990655
Coins increase in value based upon their real world adoption(see Bitcoin.) Their partnership with IBM is real world adoption. Understand?

>>3990671
junmp in, 700-800 is 110% sure in next 6-12h

>>3990671
if i were you, i won't buy higher than 475 sats. i'm no financial advisor, neither TA pro...

>>3990582
(((them)))

>>3990709
You don't look at charts very much, do you?

>>3990712
oh shit boi

>>3990706
no, there partnership with IBM is a promise to real world adoption, at this point it is speculation. 1week earlier, for the public stellar was just a humanitarian organisation trying to bank the unbank from Nigeria

>>3990677
you are right it certainly is safer , but in the mean time i'm slowly increasing my stack.

>>3990707
how do you know what btc will do , this is a prognosis based on what?

>>3990712
Confirmed! Bogdanoffs are using Lumen to fund their journey back to their home planet.

>>3990730
what entry point do you suggest? i bought twice at 395 sats and 405 sats, again i'm no TA pro but i think these are good entry points

>>3990742
You really have no clue about investing, do you? A company like IBM doesn't release fake news, because it's illegal per SEC rules. They will use Lumen, just as they said they would.

>>3990767
Depends on what kind of gains you want and how long you're willing to hold. This coin is going nowhere but up over the next coming weeks and months.

>>3990757
I am not talking about BTC, I make predictions based on psychology and human behaviour (feelings). So far 84,7% of success in my prognosis.

I am holding steady, because I know that tommorow I wake up and earn money.

>>3990807
Found the poorfag

>>3990807
you do realize we are trading this against btc right..?

You guys think it'll reach 1000 tonight?

>>3990775
You get me wrong, I wasn't calling fake news or scam, there is just nothing released yet, not product, and this is called speculation, even if it seems highly probable, that's speculation. also IBM was a great hardware company that has not rly shined recently, look at their stock market for the last 2 years. what i'm rly bullish on is the fact that IBM is a member of Hyperledger

>>3990859

>>3990712

You have little time

>>3990840
Not true. We're trading coins as equity, based upon their real world adoption per their designed function. Lumen is not meant to be BTC. It's not meant to fill that space.

>>3990890
we are trading the idea of adoption, the anticipation of the world to come, there are literally less than 1% adoption globally, we are the early adopters.

>>3989613
No we are not faggot

>>3990862
It doesn't matter if Lumen has been implemented yet. It will be. And IBM, by getting in on blockchain technology, is showing itself to be viable and ahead of the curve. How many big tech companies like IBM are partnering with start up crypto companies? Maybe 1%. This is huge for Stellar.

>>3990929
dont call him faggot u faggot he posted a nice booty

>>3990955
Her name is Emily Grey by the way

>>3990927
IBM is the early adopter. They're ahead of the curve. And they've given massive legitimacy to Stellar. Literally 99.9% of cryptocoins are dreaming of chance to have what Stellar just achieved.

>>3990968
THANK YOU GUESS WHAT ELSE IS GONNA ROCKET RIGHT NOW LOLLLLLLLL XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>3990929
This hasn't traded sub-500 for hours. He's actually correct. This coin is creating higher lows as it progresses.

>>3990981
HEHEHEHEH DAT ASS AMIRITE

>>3990981
Found the degenerate.

>>3990890
equity ? this is pure speculation right now

and we are trading a pair btc/xlm

both currencies have to be taken into account , xlm value depends on btc value ... wtf

>>3991003
YEEE BUDDY

>>3991017
Confirmed partnership with Global tech powerhouse company is not speculation. I'm trying to keep it civil here, but you're really being obtuse.

>>3991022
CHECK OUT HER SISTER SASHA AS WELL BROTHER IF YOU WANT SOME SWEET PUSEY HEHEHEHEH

as soon as it moons a 10 BTC sell wall appears fck whales

>>3991037
Sasha Grey is disgusting.

>>3991037
love u xxx

>>3991029
i'm taking about speculating the price of the coin , because that's how markets work

they have a partnership , ok , what if they decide to release all the coins and deflate the price , just one example

>>3991055
I am more of a Anjelica Ebbi guy myself actually, what are yours?

>>3991049
The very fact that there's whales with 10 BTC to throw around watching this coin is good. See the positives, man. For once in your life, hold on for some serious gains. Don't even convert to BTC for the fork. Just hodl this for a few weeks. You wanna make enough to buy a milkshake at Wendy's or a lambo?

>>3991063
DON'T YOU SEE? ARE YOU DAFT? ANNOUNCEMENTS = PRICE GO UP
STOP QUESTIONING IT, DON'T YOU LIKE MAKING MONEY GOYIM? BUY LUMENS HEHEHE

>>3991049
its the bogadan twins giving plebs a chance to buy in before it moons to 1,000 sats

>>3990951
IBM has developped app on blockchain for Hyperledger (a former linux blockchain project, now run by the infamous Blaythe Masters (the woman of my wet dreams)).also i agree with you, this is big for crypto (i don't get why ripple didn't get the partnership with IBM and stellar with Bill Gates), but there is nothing yet, only promises. IBM is 151b market ca, which is more than btc and eth, IBM has a certain aura in the tech industry, but also is far away from its competitors. My point is, sure it's good for crypto especially for stellar (did i mention that i love and support their project and team) and this is pure speculation atm.

>>3991097
>market cap is comparable to network value

>>3990969
bitcoin doesn't care, stellar needs this kind of partnership because stellar is a centralised model

>>3991088
read all the posts...

>>3991055
+1

>>3991063
I don't believe that's how these markets work. I believe these crypto markets are based soley on their founding companies ideas. Because there are companies behind these coins. Real world adoption generates publicity for these companies and validates their ideas. Stellar just got its foot inside of a huge door.

>>3991063
they can't do that, but i get the idea

>>3991132
answer >>3991073
u fuk

>>3991151
Because they can't just sell all the coins. It doesn't work that way. Technically speaking, it can't work that way.

>>3991116
I see a lot of uninformed people, what's your point? People who don't understand where the value in proof of work coins comes from and trying to compare it to stellar is pretty cute.
who's interest is it in to have stellar lumens increase in price? Why should it? Whales are drawing the price up like a syringe so that you useful idiots can provide the liquidity they need to finally unload their heaping bags. This coin has still gone up more than BTC YTD. I'm sure they greatly appreciate your buys though. Oh, and hyperledger doesn't need a native asset.

This bid whacking at 530 is incredible. Shorts are holding this back for sure. Squeeze them.

it goes up 10 sats and 20 BTC sell wall appears again lol

bogdanoffs are only going to give those are have not got in yet one more chance before lift off.

it's up to you if you want on!

>>3991143
When inflation is run, nodes carry out the following algorithm:

Calculate the inflation pool by (number of lumens in existence)*(weekly inflation rate) + fee pool.
Calculate the MIN_VOTE by (number of lumens in existence)*.0005. This is .05% of the existing lumens, the minimum amount of votes needed to get any part of the inflation pool.
Tally the votes for each account based on the inflation destination set for every account.
Determine which accounts exceeded the MIN_VOTE. These accounts are the winners.
The winners each get their prorata share of the inflation pool. For example, if a winner gets 2% of the votes, it will get 2% of the inflation pool.
Return any unallocated lumens to the fee pool.

so technically it could if somebody controlled enough nodes

>>3991132
all markers work on supply and demand can't argue with that , how they are created is a different story

>>3991201
>who's interest is it in to have stellar lumens increase in price?

It's in the interest of the company an its shareholder(coin owners.) Pretty simple. Buying this coin is an investment in the company. You think Stellar wants to bail on its investors and show itself to be unworthy of future investors? Think, Mcfly, think!

Also stellar have other tech, a decentralised exchange for example.

Why the fuck are you retards still holding this bag? The IBM news already came out. There is literally no reason why it will shoot back up again. Drop this shit before it goes down to 1 cent and get on BTC before it hits 7k.

You faggots burn me pretty consistently with bad trading advice, but I just put $200 in because the 1m/4h chart on polo looks good

>>3991268
LINK bagholder looking for cheap entry into XLM confirmed

>>3991201
the value in pow comes from electricity usage

Wake up /biz. Stellar is going up because of real world application, not pump and dump bullshit ie ZEN. Get in, now.

>>3991275
>losing money
>not taking responsibility
>sure son keep going

>>3991248
but the function is still the same at any price. it's in the interest of all of the users of the system to have the lowest price possible, not some exorbitant price. why should the price be high because margin traders have inflated it instead of because it is actually in demand? isn't that like asking for a crash?
>>3991296
it comes from the prisoner's dilemma that emerges from electricity cost. there is no such dynamic with lumens.

>>3991306
This is just wrong. That's like saying that it doesn't make sense for people to use Bitcoin because the price is going higher. Think Mcfly, Think!

>>3991306
i never said there is , xlm uses SCP

>>3991283
believe it or not i actually dumped all my Link (and OMG) bags at a minor loss to get on the XML mission. Got in at 450 and 550 sat and dropped out at 840 sat. Dodged 3 bullets in one night

>>3991306
Theres going to have to be way more liquidity then there currently is if IBM is going to use it, right?

Isnt the tx fee like .000001 xlm? so even if the price is 100,000 the tx fee is still 1/100 of a cent?

>>3991335
Shit son, why not buy back in for some more gains? This time, stay in for a few weeks and buy your mom a dodge viper with the profits.

MOONING

guyz this is simple, xlm is a good healthy project, with solid core team, solid advisors ( 3 ceo of billion dollar company), with solid tech and solid partnership with IBM (a bridge to hyperledger), find a good entry point, hold your bags for 6 to 12 months and thank me later.

>>3991328
but that is a legitimate concern with using bitcoin as a transactional medium in the amounts that most people make daily purchases in and it's one of the main reasons we are where we are in this current market climate - where have you been?

>>3991341
if it is meant for high volumes of transactions through systems like ACH clients will want the lowest cost no matter how small you can make it seem in examples, economy of scale is what is important here

just rebought and its alrdy up 20 sats FEELSGOOD

>>3991357
way too fucking stressful. on the night of the moon mission it shot up and then collapsed in less than a day. even if it explodes to 1k i wont really regret not buying. i dont know if whales are manipulating the price or wtf is going on, but i'll consider it when its not so volatile.

>>3991442
>but that is a legitimate concern with using bitcoin as a transactional medium in the amounts that most people make daily purchases in and it's one of the main reasons we are where we are in this current market climate - where have you been?

It's a legitimate concern? Yeah right. Have seen the price? More and more people every day are moving their wealth in Bitcoin and other cryptos. Why do you think faggots like Jamie Dimon are panicking?

>>3991478
do you honestly think arbitrage bots are using bitcoin to send value around between exchanges?

>>3991475
It's only stressful because you look at the price all day long. This is why "know what you own" is so important. This swing trading shit if for poorfags and gambling addicts. The money is made in buying a hodling great coins.

>>3991475

I dont trust this shit very much thats why I only put $200 in... as long as you don't go YOLO on the shit you're fine to jump in

>>3991496
What are you driving at, mcfly?

WHAT ARE OUR TARGETS SENPAI?

WE ARE ABOUT TO BREAK THE 1 HOUR CLOUD

>>3991528
650-680 then rebuy

HOLY FUCK IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN

THIS IS THAT ONE NIGHT ALL OVER AGAIN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

FUCK FUCK FUCK I MISSED THIS ONE

:)

>>3991579
wait for dip

>>3991585
incoming now

>>3991579
it will go a bit higher than 650 then rebuy under 600

>600

>>3991585
Dip? hahahahahha

we aint done yet

lol wow.

this is fun to watch.

That's IBM buying.

>just woke up
>all my funds are already committed to other coins


J U S T

U

S

T

Do i sell to ETH or BTC

>>3991624
correct , dip , watch

So I transferred 10k to Buttrex in anticipation of selling for some sweet gainz , but Blackwallet treated it as an account merge for some fucking retarded reason, which isn't supported by the exchange... So my XLM is currently MIA. I've raised it with Bittrex support (the tx went through fine - hoping it's just a processing issue) but best case scenario I miss the price rises, worst case it's all gone.

For those that missed the rises ...it could be worse

>>3991652
ETH is due for a run.

moon mission time

>>3991663
I am.

>>3991652
Definitely ETH, then switch that to BTC after the fork and hodl it. ETH should rise against BTC after the fork

>>3991671
yeah probably not for 3-4 more weeks though

>>3991702
Meh, I think it'll go up from here.

>>3991688
sub 600 incoming , i'm just taking a little profits

>>3991718
Why wouldn't you? If you're staring at the screen, like me, it only makes sense to play the charts.

sell NOW, rebuy later

>>3991718
yeah, buyers are still thirsty af by the looks of it.

>>3991740
you shuld have sold 5 min ago at 630 and rebought the 590

FUCK FUCK FUCK I WAS SHITTING DURING THE DIP

>>3991740
Dude, no. If you were going to sell, you should have done it at 620. Not sub 600.

buy the dip anon. like you forgot to do last time

welp im fucking back, who needs sleep

>>3991752
kraken went fucking autistic on me when I tried to sell at 650 fucking hell

>>3991757
>>3991751
I legit just got home and saw a red candle, got anxious

>>3991758
not yet

>>3991752
No worries, anon. We're headed for 800 satoshis tonight.

For those looking for an entry point. This should consolidate back to support at 540. It won't go any lower than that.

Lads, I am being dead serious here.
Just look at the four hour chart, we are headed for the stars. MACD reversal and bullish RSI.
We will find very small resistance at 670 satoshis, however if the volume keeps coming in we could potentially be seeing 1000 sats tonight

>>3991790

Just bought at 600, hope I haven't bought at the peak yet again

>>3991820
somewhere around that if we get lucky

strap in boys

>>3991822
What platform are you using? I like that black background. Much easier on the eyes.

damn 35btc buy wall at 600 sats on bittrex

>>3991860
The buy wall is 24 btc at 600. You're looking at the sum total of buys on the screen.

>>3991854
Its coinigy, I hope you fellow Lumeneers are strapped in and ready for the ride

>>3991881
the bitch pulled it. and yeah i know.

>>3991854
looks like coinigy

>>3991667

Seriously though, anyone think I'll get it back?

>>3991842

>you half and hour from now

>>3991886
I like it. I may have to try it out.

>>3991901
did you transfer BTC or ETH?

WHALE HERE. GET READY BOYZ IMMA FIRE MY LAZERS

>>3991944
dont do it

>>3991909
plz

whale here. get ready for it

>>3991944
Do it. 700 right now

>>3991944
not yet lemme buy back in kraken is doing austistic

>>3991969
for what????

why did I tell myself not to fomo at 430 sats?
I hate myself

>>3991976
Bittrex, son

alright fire away boys!

>>3991939
I transferred XLM from my wallet to Bittrex to sell, or at least that was the plan...

>>3991993
anon bought in, time to dump

>>3991992
yeah def gonna switch tommorrow, this is even worse than ED

>>3991994
Which wallet?

>>3991994
Can you trace the transaction in the blockchain? Is it confirmed? How long ago did you send the XLM to bittrex?

Sub 600 on bittrex, i want to see 650+ reee

>>3992041

Chill anon, look at 1M/4H chart MACD on polo

>>3992053
BAH GAWD!

>>3992053
Oh shit, my browser crashed, luckily i stop lossed at 620

>>3992012
Blackwallet


>>3992039
Yeah, I've sent them the tx on stellarchain.io and sent them screencaps of the send / amounts from the wallet. It's all documented, and they will have received it...it's just whether they want to be helpful.

We are the #1 thread on /biz! Give yourself a pat on the back.

god i hope btc crashes and makes this rise even juicier

>>3992125
Lul. Just wait till the 25th, when BTG comes out.

>>3992121
If you have confirmation that the transaction completed, then it's in the Bittrex wallet. Unless I'm missing something.

>>3992139
You think BTC is going to crash after the fork? Why?

>>3992159
its not going to crash, BTG is, and they will sell it into alts

>>3992139
Everyone keeps saying that's when alts are going to come back up, we'll see.

what about the segwit2x fork? I mean i guess thats like 3 weeks from the bgold fork. could get some trading in then before switching back to btc.

>>3992168
Makes sense.

can we hit 1k already

>>3992202
at this rate we should hit 1k by about midnight CST

>>3992146
Exchanges generally don't support an 'account merge' tx (something stellar does) - Blackwallet seemingly defaulted to this option when I transferred the entire balance. As Bittrex will use essentially one address for a fuckload of different peoples xlm transfers, they're differentiated by memo text and then presumably automatically processed by
them. I provided the memo text, but I'm guessing the automated doodad doesn't pick up merges and hasn't delivered my funbucks. They'd have to go and do it manually.

If that makes sense...

The volume is insane

25 BTC buy sitting at 610 on bittrex

The volume was 20k BTC a few days ago, this is nothing.

>>3992297
Im selling at 630. Getting nervous about east coast burgers going to sleep soon.

of fuck yeah btc just crashed 80$, xlm might start to get really spicy now

>>3992323
Yup, just went to 640. Fuck, clicked to cancel, and it sold

>>3992323
yessss crash some more plss

Im away from my pc and can't cancel sell set for 700 ish resistance. Am i going to make it

>>3992309
its 7:20 on a saturday night in EC burgerland. Got at least 3-4 hours before we start going to sleep.

IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING

>>3992341
you're gonna sell at 700 haha

I don't know what to set my sell at. Got in at 415 some time ago.

>>3992331
you might have a chance to get back in sub 630 if you're very quick in the next 30 mins or so. or just hope back on at a small loss

>>3992343
Id give it 2 hours. I'll rebuy at 625 hopefully i don’t accidentally buy the crash

>>3992341
use your phone you fucking brainlet

>>3992360
AHA HES DONE IT IM BACK IN

guys I need to get in on this moon!

How do I buy 'xlm'?

Is it on Amazon??

>>3992397
Kek i cant tell if hes kidding or not

>>3992397
no try craiglist

>>3992462
New thread

>>3992397
i’ve been looking everywhere on gamestop. i cant find this friggin stupid game.

>>3992397
buy btc
send btc to bittrex
buy xlm with that btc
don't forget to tip me at least 15% at 1DYdmXTVST59JsqLEGuwD62DdF8tjRdtxz

still waiting on my dipper

>>3992372
Thanks lad just the motivation i needed moved a xhunk up to 800

btc price going down, xlm recovering to previous highs
get in while you can fgts

learn to TA retards. rounded bottom on this is so easy to spot, easily reaching previous resistance tonight aka 1ksatoshi
double your money tonight or waste it on a 6pack like some sadfag

>>3992559
don't be so sure genius

My TA points to the same think, easy money night. I am not even watching anymore I did a Fibonacci retracement and have my sells set up for 50% at 0.00000850 and the remaining at 0.00001, should be another 2 grand richer in the AM. Night everyone.

>>3992634
This is hitting a 650 resistance, dont be so sure. We are already back at 615

we should be seeing this bounce off at around 580

where the fuck did everybody go

STILL HERE BOI

sub 600 incoming

>>3992858
aaand its here. still loads of buying support though. someone just cleared out like 40btc in one order.

wonder where this will take us , volume is fading a bit

700 sats when?

>>3993127
if i knew , i'd be a rich motherfucker

>>3993127
yeah you realize no-one actually knows the answer to that question, right?

>>3993008
Because the chinks and pajeets have put up walls on every exchange. A wall is a massive buy/sell on either side of a set number to throttle the exchange. They pumped this up over the last 3 hours (also mini pumps before around 8+ hours ago where they bought their initial XLM at a very low price) spammed boards like this shilling it and getting people to buy buy buy. They have no effectively set their sell wall and to buy now you have to buy their bags. They are dumping their XLM right now while people continue to buy. Once they are done they will remove those 1mil 100k+ buy orders and run with their profits for today. They will do it again in a few days probably until people start to distrust the coin. They have (or had 30min ago) walls up on every exchange.

This does not mean XLM is a bad thing to invest in long-term as their product is good. Currently, at its price, it is easy to manipulate and the rocket ship icon just makes it easier to shill. They prob made 30+BTC off people tonight and they will probably split it between their group.

They do the same with a few other coins on a regular basis.

On the plus side if you can monitor the initial small pumps as they buy into the coin/token you can capitalise yourself by buying in the dip that comes after and then just selling when they erect their walls by watching the sell/buy orders.

>>3993171
I mean im not a part of any group and im already up 4 bitcoin on this trade for today so I would say your 30btc estimate is very low lol.

however at this point im trying to make back btc losses

>>3993171
it seems to be the truth
i been swinging xlm all day
looks like it's time to get out

>>3993216
why didnt it look like time to get out around 500 sats after it pumped and volume died down? I'd say its pretty hard to tell for sure, either way.

>>3993202
I have never done it, It must be more I guess. Pulled the number out my ass to be honest. You could work it out, I mean their walls must have been 3-4mil on the sell side alone and they mostly went. Crazy money for a few hours work. Why am I long-term investing again? lol. I should put my autismo to work and look out for the humps and ride these moon missions. The shilling threads should be enough indi9cator even if its just jump on as its starting.

>>3993228
that's actually when i got in

at 506 , based on rising volume on bittrex

>>3993216

I would say so.

>>3993228

You just have to wait till they put up their walls and sell to the buys they put up to force trade into their sells. If you notice what they are doing and buy in early enough you will make a big enough profit.

then again looking at my TA right now is a buy for the 5 and 15 min

>>3993260
right on. yeah i think we're going to repeat the same thing here in the next hour

>>3993276
in other words just because volume died down temporarily doesn't mean it can't come roaring back. it just seems like an almost impossible thing to predict imo.

>>3993276
i don't think it'll be as volatile as from 500 to 600 , it started off with around 800btc volume now it's almost 3000 on bittrex , that doesn't spell well .
not saying it can't go up , but i think we wont see a pump like earlier , just sold at 615 but mind you i'm swinging

>>3993260

Yeah, that hump before and there was another smaller one before that. Good indicators they are prepping for a pump and dump. If you miss that then the 20 or 30 threads about the coin/token on /biz/ alone should be indicator enough that somethings starting. You won't make as much is you catch it that late but they need to do that to get people to buy. Their work is done now, but you will still get bag holders shilling it for a few more hours maybe even days yet. once that dies down and the price bottoms out they will try again. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

This will only stop if/when XLM actually develops a bigger value due to its product IRL. the problem is they can kill a coin before that happens sometimes, although that is less likely now the coins/tokens actually have some IRL product backing them, unlike the early crypto days when it was a bunch of BTC ripoffs with nothing behind them except code.

the best description I have heard is BTC is the HTTP of crypto and these new coins are web pages (the ripoffs weren't which is why most failed). It could mean BTCs price keeps skyrocketing as the entire market its based on also increase in value. Hopefully, this is another dotcom boom. We shall see. I wouldn't be surprised to see BTC at 20k+ in a few years and many of these smaller companies with the tech behind the coins going along for the ride, If they succeed.

>>3993318

I think the main group doing the P&D buggered off and it is maybe a smaller group trying (probably some reddit fags or a discord lot) and then a few bag holders and fish shilling for it to go higher. It might do but meh. They pajeets and chinks got what they came for. they prob had an office of 200+ ppl doing it who got their hourly rate while the boss made a few million lol. Christ it might even be somebody outsourcing to them from the west. Not a bad idea that actually...

>>3993382
i agree not a bad idea at all , wish i had 30btc and could organize pumps myself , will get there soon enough.

as for xlm it'll probably hold the 600 for a while and then go either way .

as for btc it's definitely going past 20k imo , and the ones to go along will probably be omg , neo and iota.

look into iota tangle if you haven't already , it's pretty disruptive tech