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I know I could make any kind of app, any program, but holy shit is coming up with a good idea hard. Apps like Instagram which get bought for billions of dollars are called retarded by some but the reason it succeeds is a unique idea with execution. I'm not sure how sites like tumblr became popular amongst twitter, or how much 'mashable' or other blog-conglomerate sites are worth, everything is just so fucking weird in this arena, numbers are either astronomical or people seemingly fall on their face trying to monetize their work.

WTF WILL PEOPLE OR BUSINESSES PAY FOR ANYMORE!? It's like sueezing blood from a stone. If I just had an idea of something (besides porn god-fucking-damnit) that people would certainly pay for which doesn't exist, I know I could do it - that's the worst... can't be an idea man, just an executor. I have ideas and have executed some but ... no rich.

Naw mean /biz/zy bees? I want to do something. Put my time into something. I can do SOMETHING... but nothing seems fucking worth doing. Nothing is profitable. It's all about a search for a perfect niche market and some kind of privileged access to resources on our part, isn't it... fucking isn't it... I should just stop being creative altogether.

>> No.385148

What's your technical skillset and experience?

>> No.385152

>>385146
You're going the wrong direction with your thinking. Don't try to create the next big app. That won't get you anywhere.

Find a problem, something that is missing or could be done better. Then fix it.

>> No.385153

Just quit now

>> No.385155

>yfw MySpace was superior to Facebook

>> No.385156

>>385148

I can do it all, programming and software wise, I just need a goddamn idea. So the answer to your question is (sort of) software. Or maybe a website. I've had 1,000,001 website ideas, have made prototype website after website, bought domain names, and let them all sink because I realized no profit to be had... no real customer interest.

>> No.385159

>>385146


Hmmm... I literally sit around and spend hours thinking everyday about this shit. What to make next. What will make me a millionaire. God. Damnit. I have no life anymore, and it's not like I'm a mad scientist who gets a ton done everyday, it's all in my head because most of my projects won't even get off the ground until I convince myself there's some money to be made... the ones I've tried, eh. Not great.

Cmon million dollar idea.

>>385152

If I find and solve a big enough problem it can become the next big app. That's my aim. I want to be wealthy, not just make a few grand on an app. Need the mills. Need the bills even.

>>385153

That'd be great. But I get anxiety over not doing something big with my life when I have the ability... you don't even know man. I can't even enjoy videogames or doing nothing anymore. I just obsess over how to get rich, I have the ability to, but not the idea. I also have a shoestring budget, which wouldn't matter if the idea were good enough.

>>385155

I can do social networks... but nobody cares about those anymore. And having to sign up for anything is becoming increasingly annoying for a viewer unless they want to buy something and even then they hate filling out a form. Everyone wants to sign in with fucking facebook.

What a world what a world. I could just make games but that's not what will make me rich fast. Making a brilliant piece of software that has millions or billions in potential and selling it ASAP is what I want.

>> No.385165

>Fire up some game to play it and get my thoughts off work
>End up sitting and thinking about how to make millions and hardly playing the game
>Slowly turn in chair towards computer and browse the latest tech news
>Realize there's no way to come up with the next big thing or a great idea by just passively observing the great ideas of others
>Turn back to game... what is point
>Back to 4chan to think more about money and try to find out what's hot
>Work for people for small sums of money but never get rich and always broke
>Repeat

>> No.385167

>>385159
>I just obsess over how to get rich, I have the ability to, but not the idea.

So you don't have the ability to get rich...

>> No.385176

Some ideas I've dropped:

-Wearable tech

-Remote security systems integrated with cellphone (Google just bought one company that was already doing this for tons of cash)

-Tutorial websites on how to make your own games and websites and ecommerce blah blah (realized it's just more of the same, free information already widely available)

- Maybe find some way to do something cool with fish tanks or ant farms, where you integrate technology like little cameras that can monitor things, or flick switches and levers to do cool stuff, program/automate their homes basically (I don't know, this is probably dumb)

- Also related, the future is apparently bleak for meat, it's going to cost as much as gold, so we'll be eating insects sooner or later. They already have very space age looking, cool 'hive' things for flying insects and grasshoppers that let you harvest them to cook and eat. Apparently a baked grasshopper tastes like peanuts. It's super high protein and you can grow this food forever because they self-sustain through breeding. Just keep putting in handfuls of grass and cleaning it out once in a while. How to profit from this?

There you go, /biz/zy bees, some of my private million-dollar maybe but probably not ideas.

>> No.385177

>>385146
Good Ideas are the most scarce resource on Earth. Why do you thinking finding one earns somebody millions of dollars?

>> No.385184

>>385176
>integrated with cellphone

That sounded gay. I mean mobile.

More ideas

- Profit from solar technology somehow. Contact businesses or wealthy people and sell them packages, agree to show up and install systems, show the numbers, how much they'll save etc. Maybe turn this into a franchise. Alot of work here, I know - but if I middle-man enough profit I can hire workers to install everything for me and not even lift a finger really. All the business needs to work is salesmen and the website which I can do.

- Grocery store ordering and delivery (already been done, most companies that are successful implode or something because it's just not a good business model and managing it is a nightmare). But if I made a set of tools in mobile app form for the employees to be using, and websites for franchises again, maybe it'd work. I don't know. I don't fucking know WHAT works.

- Mobile and web advertisements where the viewer has to pay attention by playing a minigame throughout. No answering gay questions, no typing, just click this, move that, shoot this, jump here - fun minigames that are also ads. The more 'games' or ads the player gets through the more they 'earn'. No idea how to get started with this. Feel like it's a good idea.

So since I haven't started any of these, feel free to take them yourselves. Or bankroll me and help me make it happen, because there's just no money here unless I had capital and 6 months to invest which I don't.

Maybe I should take things to kickstarter.

>> No.385187

>>385176
>>385184

>these are good ideas faggot why aren't you doing them

Because I've thought enough about everything to see that I can't make money fast enough, I need something so simple and brilliant and necessary that I could take it to an industry and unload it on a company that would buy it from me for good $. Fast.

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385192

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWpVymwjpjg&feature=em-upload_owner#action=share

how is this for an idea??

>> No.385195

>>385187

One great example would be taxi cab apps - where people schedule and give eachother rides through the app. It has threatened to make normal taxi services obsolete, and the apps behind it are of course obscenely successful. Just a good idea on an emerging market.

Emerging markets for 2014 apparently include all manner of things for the aging Baby Boomers, like hearing aids, "help i fell down and im gonna fucking die" bracelets and gadgets etc., adult diapers (lel, of course), all hugely growing markets. Gotta be some way to profit from the oldies at this point, but HOW?


Other emerging markets include real estate, tons of new agents emerging everywhere even with only a moderately growing housing market (yes I'm regurgitating all of this, but I'd say it's true). What can I make to get in on the realty industry? We all heard about Zillow I'm sure. Rich as fuck, they are. What else can the industry use...

Other growing industries include beverage and food production. I have a pretty good idea for that which I'm not revealing ITT.

>> No.385197

>>385192

Hmm yesh. yesh. Very interesting.

New way to interface with computer or games?

>> No.385198

>>385184
>- Mobile and web advertisements where the viewer has to pay attention by playing a minigame throughout. No answering gay questions, no typing, just click this, move that, shoot this, jump here - fun minigames that are also ads. The more 'games' or ads the player gets through the more they 'earn'. No idea how to get started with this. Feel like it's a good idea.
This already existed in the 90s.
>Click on Lance Bass for a chance to win $50!

>> No.385200

>>385197

>New way to interface with games

Speaking of which, I had an idea to make a cool board game with a special twist that could probably get kids of all ages playing it (unlike most board games). The real money isn't in making hipster cool fag board games for adults but making the next big kids board game I'd say. I would need funding to get this idea off the ground though.

Should I just be building a portfolio of these ideas with demos or something? And start approaching investors?

>> No.385204

>>385198

Well, let's say you get 10 advertisers with $1,000 contracts. That's $10,000. Take $8,000 for production. $1,000 for profit. The remaining $1,000 you split up amongst the 100,000 viewers. 100,000 viewers / $1,000 = 100 viewers per dollar or 1 cent per view, which I think is pretty good... it's a working business model, some advertisers would pay it, and you could give actual payouts to viewers.

The trick is landing advertisers. Marketing is a fucking hustle.

>> No.385205

>>385200

Just keep talking to yourself; it seems like you have everything figured out.

>> No.385206

>>385197
yeah ..
another use of it is for people with no hands to use a computer

>> No.385212

>>385206

There aren't enough of those people, though.

>>385205

Maybe.

>> No.385213

>>385212
of course there are...
at least enough to make me a millionaire..
hue huehe heu eheu

>> No.385222

>>385146
who pays for porn since the 90's?

>> No.385224

I fell as if I am in the opposite position. I have an idea, and I spent 50+ hours over the past 5 days trying to learn programming through a Udacity course and a pdf book download with what I feel is no progress. How do I meet someone in Silicon Valley to partner with to get it done :(

>> No.385244

>>385224
I know that feel fellow idea guy
I don't think I have the attention span to learn real programming

>> No.385265

>>385244
>>385224
>>385146

holy shit this is so fucking cute

>> No.385299

>>385222
Tons of people. It's a multi billion dollar industry you dumbfuck.

>> No.385302

>>385176
>>385184

Some pretty good ideas but maybe start smaller. Look into developing plugins (php/wordpress, jquery, etc). Smaller time/money investment but can have good returns if the idea is good enough. It's also a good way of networking with other devs.

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385341

Thats why there are a million copycats of successful software programs, games, etc. You just gotta produce and MARKET. You might not get the big bucks, but if it pays off some bills or pays for lunch isn't still a win? Might bring you in connection with bigger projects. It's frustrating and keeps me awake at night too. I also get paranoid talking to people about my ideas because they might steal and run with it.

>> No.385354

>>385159
Get help.

>> No.385371

>>385159

sorry, but if all you do is daydream about millions and billions i can't help you.

focus on making an app that people will thank you for.

>> No.385374

>>385244
Enjoy staying a peasant then.

>>385224
>>385146
http://devbootcamp.com/

>> No.385639

>>385146

You're so wrong it hurts. The only thing all successful people have in common is the ambition to push past this fucking fairy-tale way of thinking that if they just had the "right idea" that they would be successful.

Your idea means less than 1% of your success. It's the value you create by building something, anything really.

Let's take a stupid idea for example:

>Pen Caps with OP's ugly face on them and a few words about how massive a faggot he is.

That's a stupid idea right? Now take that idea, build an e-commerce platform for it targeting a very niche group of consumers and put it in front of them millions of times. Create a marketing campaign that focuses on how funny these pen caps are and how for only 99C you too can be part of the faggotry that is OP. Statistically if you put it in front of enough people a certain % will buy it. How many who knows but the point is that you can probably sell enough of these OP Faggot Pen Caps to recoup at least the cost of your time building a web site.

Point is the development, the marketing, the customer service behind the idea are what creates success. You think Henry Ford wouldn't have applied his assembly line approach to something else if cars hadn't been invented yet?

>> No.385719

>>385159
Read what you wrote here. "Nobody wants to sign up for things. Make an app that signs you up for things automatically. i.e. you fill in your information once in the app and thats it.

>> No.385937

>>385719
Google already beat you to it

>> No.385959

>>385354

Y-you

>>385374
Thanks for the link

>>385639
>Your idea means less than 1% of your success.

I really think you're wrong, but okay.

> take that idea, build an e-commerce platform for it targeting a very niche group of consumers and put it in front of them millions of times.

You realize this is work right. Unpaid work. Not easy work, either. It also has no definite payout in any definite amount of time.

Maybe you don't see my logic - I don't have time/can't afford to throw shit at walls and see what sticks. I've had the "just do it" mentality before, it's not correct. It's masturbatory.

>> No.385964

>>385639

Also, this post was just awful, shame on you.

>you can make any retarded idea work just push hard enough

Jesus.

>> No.386065

>>385146
>>385159

The advice of what he said:>>385371

You got some vivid 'animal spirits' as they are sometimes called. That CAN be helpful.
And you progressed from:
Success grows, where big numbers are
to
Success grows where people pay.
The next and IMO final level in this regard is

Success grows where all are served.

This may seem complicated to base thinking on, Yet I can promise some reward.

All good wishes to all

>> No.386132

>>385176
way to miss the LTC train fgt, we are 14 months in a rocking a difficulty ramp from 298 to 11000.

>fuck me i'm making dosh.

>> No.386133

>>385192
that was fucking horrid.

>> No.386136

>>385200
>rule #1 in the den
No board games
>rule #2
go back to 1

>> No.386138

>>385265
lel.

>> No.386141

>>385959
>>385964


>not realizing what a "fad" is
>wants big money.

you know you have to trick someone into giving it up, its a math game, he is right.

p.s. custom pen printing is an easy way to start on your custom business advertising campaign. get a few more products, make a flyer and go distribute them.

>> No.386144

Balls deep in Java and HTML lessons now, going to start learning Objective-C in a month.

I've got the wind to my back and great ideas in my head. I'm leaving humanity behind!

>> No.386301

>>385176
Maybe you are limiting yourself with only viewing stuff that is tech or programming related as potential avenues.

>> No.386326

If you want a successful social media site, make one place where millions of people can seclude themselves all at once.

>> No.386376

OP, how about instead of looking for "the one" supreme idea that will net you millions (lol), you start some relatively small projects that are likely make you SOME money, even a little bit, without having to invest too much time and energy? They don't even have to be original, just better than the alternatives. If you know how to market your stuff, you stand a good chance of getting some return, even if it's disproportionately small, which is still infinitely more encouraging than zero or less.

If you look at legitimate businesses, they're often grown from smaller successful ones. Since you don't want to waste your time, why don't you try making some small but solid progress instead of praying for a home run? At least that way you'll have something to show for your effort, instead of pouring you effort into "the one" and having it fall flat.

>> No.386397

OP, make a duolingo but for programming languages.

i know that there is learnstreet or codecademy, but they don't have mobile apps

>> No.386419

>>385184
You could eliminate receipts by having them online (not a photo of the reciept), but having maybe a integrated drop down list of what was bought (ie: candy 2.50, cigs 7.00, gas 32.81).

>> No.387394

>>386301
>>386326
>>386376
>>386397
>>386419

Hmm, good posts. Thanks.

>> No.387647

I have been writing Android apps for years.

My apps pulled in $430 in the past week, which is kind of a low. They were pulling in $430 a week last September, and hit $1000 a week last December.

The way I look at it is it is a long slog. When I consistently making $700 a week I'll have reached a goal. It will be a real business. After that, $1400 a week, then $2100 a week. $2100 a week is my long term goal. Once I hit that I'll be pretty set.

It's just a long slog. There is probably some luck involved in terms of an app taking off. One of my many apps makes 70%-80% of my total revenue, so maybe that app doing well was some luck.

Once I'm consistently hitting $700 a week (which I did or exceeded for three weeks around Christmas), I'll consider that a minor success. $1400 a week will be a decent success. $2100 is my goal, that defines success for me. It will be a slog to get to $700 a week. Then I'll think about $1400 a week.

Ideas are not hard. I have a lot of them, I just put them in order. Some ideas I have will take years to do, so I put those at the bottom of the list. I tell people I write apps and they give me ideas as well.

There are many paths to monetization. I make decent money on ads, you can try that. Some game apps make decent money on in-app purchases. There are different paths to monetization.

>> No.387892

http://book.personalmba.com/5-parts-of-every-business/
seems relevant

>> No.387937

>>387647

Do you spend 40 hours a week or thereabouts coding?

>> No.387989

>>385374
>http://devbootcamp.com/
lol all students in that video had macs

>> No.387998

>>385146
deep web

>> No.388002

I've got an idea for a startup, and have been teaching myself web development and design the past couple of weeks, and have picked it up pretty well, I hope to have the website functioning within 6 - 8 months, (keep in mind I work full time).

What I don't understand is when young "entrepreneurs" make their start up, they often have a team of half a dozen people or so. What the hell do these other people do?

You have a web developer/designer, a book keeper and customer service. In a websites early days those jobs can be fielded by 2 people. Why the hell do you need a whole team? Once the website is functioning, why would you need more than one developer/designer to keep it floating?

>> No.388008

>>387647
>>385146
i want to learn how to write apps too, but i have no idea where and how to start and is it possible to teach myself and how long does it take to learn all the skills required to make an app, thz

>> No.388012

>>385146
just throwing it out there

an app where you ask a common question, as though you are searching for it on the internet, and get the best answer as voted by users who also asked that question and found the right answer

so for instance people keep having the same problem with their computer, when they google it they get all sorts of spam sites and dodgy forums advertizing solutions that are actually malware

but someone finds an obscure forum with the answer, they can submit the answer to the app and people pleased with the answer will upvote that answer to the top of the list

>> No.388025

>>385146
Got somewhere I can contact you?

>> No.388054

>>385146

You're asking the wrong question when asking what are the ideas/app that companies will be buying for a billion $$

I myself am the idea guy and not the programmer. The whole thing is understanding the way things work and understanding what people want and how and why they do things. Understanding is the most important aspect.

Apps, mobile apps most specifically, number one currency/value is derived from the amount of users and impressions you get. So the most important thing is to understand how exactly you will appeal to the largest amount of people and what does your app do and why will it draw so many people.

So we're target a blank mass of people for the best reception... Now you just need to decide what type of app is it? A game, a service, etc... I can't type everything out because I would have to write a book to communicate everything I want to you but to summarize...

Understand that the value is the user base and maximize that as much as possible

Understand, really understand, the problem you are solving

Solve that problem better then anyone else

Cultivate a cult following in the beginning by being extremely receptive and communicative... The early adoptors you convert will be your foot soldiers

Focus on continually making things faster and easier as those are the most important aspects of an app.

Also spend a great amount of time on the GUI and even hire a designer if need be. Aesthetics won't make your app but if you have the greatest solution in the world and it doesn't look pretty it won't be widely adopted.... Just like in everyday life looks matter but they are not the most important feature

>> No.388105

I have a billion dollar idea but I have no idea how to make a app, at least you know how to program and make a app

>> No.388121

>>387989
HAHAHAHA MACFAG DOESNT EVEN KNOW HOW TO INSTALL GENTOO :^)

>tfw Linus Torvalds uses a mac
>tfw everyone in the bay area has a mac
>tfw you're a retarded faggot and should fuck right off

>> No.388146

''In house live marketing'' is what I call it.

It's basically a stall where staff offer rewards to customers for sharing via social network or in person that they have recommended the restaurant/shop.

For example, if a Mcdonalds knows it's going to be quieter than usual on Tuesdays they hire your ''in house live marketing'' team to set up a small stall... the team then offers rewards such as food or vouchers (it would depend on where you're at) to customers who recommend to people to try the new product x at mcdonalds in x town/village w.e, or share on social media that they've been to x and won x reward... Maybe even introduce some sort of loyalty system where if they recommend something x amount of times they get a free product or w.e. Basically, real time marketing for already existing companies and you just charge the said company x amount per day or something.

I don't have enough money to even try set it up but ohwell

>> No.388155

> invent something for the stereotypical 4channer
> advertise it on 4chan
> make $$$

>> No.388158

>>388155
a website for small businesses to use each others services and or products and leave feedback to one another. thus helping get small businesses off the ground and get some products/services out there so you can say we worked for x company.

thousands of people on biz own small businesses so it would probably work... plus, if we all helped each other we'd be better off anyway...


or even just a small ''members only'' site where business owners can use each others services and a business pays x amount to join said listings

>> No.388160

What about a website made for a community that doesn't already have one ? Like I don't know a dating website for trans faggots.

This would help make the other websites a better place as well.

>> No.388163

>>388155
The stereotypical 4channer is one of the worst people to make something to, he'll complain about anything ranging from your personal life to minor errors.

>> No.388173

>>388158
>"members only"
>invent "4chan Gold" website
>spam the meme on /b/
> summerfags all google it
>click on your website
>ad revenue

>> No.388188

>>388173
You'd have to get obscene amounts of money from every visitor because they're only coming once.

An ARG would be a lot better off to make money of than this shit.

>> No.388399

>>388025

throwawayemail789@gmail.com

If anyone else wants to possibly make apps/games (simple please) contact me too I guess

>> No.388404

>>388002

I am currently working with someone who is overexpanding like that now.

The answer to your question is it's an ego trip resulting from having too much money at hand and being inexperienced. Overexpansion is the noobest thing you can do.

>> No.388413

>>388012

Yahoo answers?

>>388146

Very innovative thinking. Just a small ATM size machine basically? Could work. Would definitely need capital.

>>388155
They don't have money... and if they do they spend it on weaboo shit I don't have time for. Or technology that I'm not going to compete with, consumer goods and electronics etc.

>>388158

People find eachother through a bajillion sites now. Good thinking, though.

>>388160

Niche social networks would be nice, but I can't stake my future on it. I'd need someone to bankroll. I made a few already that got minor steam but nobody wants to get off Facebook.

>> No.388430

>>387937
>Do you spend 40 hours a week or thereabouts coding?
No, I am busy doing other things as well. Some weeks I spend 40 hours a week coding, some weeks I do none.

>> No.388433

>>385159
Is this you OP?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDwEFvOh9co&t=36m13s

>> No.388506

>>388430

I was just trying to divide your revenue by time spent to see how much you were earning. Whether it was above min wage. Although that's not really fair because you're probably adding some marketing mojo into the mix that boosts revenue and you aren't a straight programmer sitting in a cubicle.

>> No.388511

>You realize this is work right. Unpaid work. Not easy work, either.

People pay for value and value is only created from work. Making money without at least some upfront work is like generating electricity out of thin air. It can't happen

>It also has no definite payout in any definite amount of time.

This is the definition of risk. If there is zero risk there would be zero return.

>> No.388644

>tfw I'm usually the ideas guy and I have infinite ideas, most of them good
>can always find a solution and can always predict what the upcoming profitable social trend will be
>tfw lack the ability to execute them

>> No.388718

Got an idea I've been kicking around a bit, maybe you guys can poke holes in it:

I'm thinking about something like a onenote or evernote that will serve as a notepad for accountants. It'll have the ability to quickly spin up t-accounts, depreciation charts, etc. and serve as a sort of transaction simulator. It would include basic calculator functions and annotations that would be geared towards accountants. It'd be nice if it could also have something like intellisense to recognize common account types and give you hints and warnings.

I figure I can probably market a free basic version to accounting students who can then push it to coworkers so that they can share notes. A pro edition will have additional functionality like access to exchange rates, cloud sharing, and enterprise support.

The only technology tools that most accountants seem to use are tools included in ERP systems and Excel. The ERP stuff is generally very dated and cumbersome, while Excel is more of a general purpose tool and can also be pretty bloated.

I'm not an accountant (I work with them), so I'm sure I'm missing something, but it seems like a pretty reasonable idea to me.

>> No.388787

>>387647
Can you tell us more about all the different apps you've made? What does your best earner do exactly?

>> No.388812

>>388404

They're paying 3 people that can do the job of one kind of thing? I've thought about a business model where everyone operates from their workstation at home

>> No.389178

just so you guys know...

if you want to belong to a startup and you talk to people who actually know their shit and describe yourself as the "idea guy", into the trash you'll go

>> No.389181

>>388433
omg I cringed so hardddd

fuck that was hard to watch

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389444

>>389178

>> No.389462

>>388188
>obscene amounts of money from every visitor because they're only coming once

>hundreds of thousands of unique visitors
>needing obscene amounts from EACH

Organic unique visitors with unique IPs will improve the stats. I don't see why you'd need them to repeat visit? Although they might if the site is setup right like 4plebs is.

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389523

>>389444
sorry, but every person I've ever run across that describes themselves as an "idea guy" has been a NEET fuck-up that doesn't know their ass from their face

the guys that don't know how to program and turn out to be successful don't describe themselves as the "idea guy"

the non-technical guys tend to be really smart ivy-league types with law/finance degrees. have you worked with startups before?

>> No.389559

>>389523

Being an idea guy is fine. It's called being a consultant, or an inventor, or if you have capital yourself it can lead to being president or CEO of a company. Being an idea guy is fine, but being an idea guy with a great idea and some capital to actually get it off the ground would be excellent, not just fine. It's hard to put people to work for potential, it's easy to put them to work for cash.

>> No.389566

>>388718
>I'm thinking about something like a onenote or evernote that will serve as a notepad for accountants.

You're talking 2 months minimum for a framework. 2 months full-time work at maybe $15/hr minimum.

>It'll have the ability to quickly spin up t-accounts, depreciation charts, etc. and serve as a sort of transaction simulator.

5 months

> It would include basic calculator functions and annotations that would be geared towards accountants. It'd be nice if it could also have something like intellisense to recognize common account types and give you hints and warnings.

6 months

>A pro edition will have additional functionality like access to exchange rates, cloud sharing, and enterprise support.

9 months

>I'm not an accountant (I work with them)

12 months


My bid on a job like this would probably be 7 months because I'm a freak. But honestly, that's a year long project you're discussing, ideally between 2 developers. One developer would need full-time compensation for 12 months at a reasonable wage.

If you had 3-4 developers working on it, you could pool that expense into 3-4 months and get it out by then. It'd cost a little bit more but it'd be done faster. That's how I'd go about it.

Not a terrible idea, it would work.

>> No.389568

>>389566

I was making a site that had both social networking functions and built-in tools in the backend for a branch of medical practices which I won't specify (signed NDAs) - a very common form of medicine, many clinics.

They could all have a cute little social network that their clients are linked to with special profiles, history of their ____ records, ability to private message eachother, post on message boards, start and join private or public discussion groups, etc. And the backend would feature a host of tools needed by clinics to operate, keep record of inventory, point of sales system, etc.

I had a working beta going for this but no capital and realized how hard it is to convince people to use new applications in place of their standards. Same issue I met with trying to do social networks competing with facebook, didn't matter how niche. People want to use their old familiar inventory systems and do their networking on fagbook.

Wah

>> No.389612

>>385146
If you're actually that great of a developer, you should email my disposable email (I put it in my email field).
I'm more than just an "idea guy", I'm working with some people on a few things, and we need a great developer.
I'm sure you don't live anywhere near us and that's completely fine as long as you're actually that talented.

>> No.389629

>>385159
You don't need new fucking ideas. I'll give you a super good idea that you can start work on right away, because I'm never going to do it. Search up "Recalls" on the Iphone App store.

You will see there is an app that's free which tells you when there are product recalls, and the paid version that costs $1.99 gives you a search feature to use. There are a good number of people who have bought the premium edition, but most of them note that the feature they pay for, searching, does not even work and give the app 1-3 star ratings.

All you have to do is create a recall app that's cheaper and has a working search feature.

It's about fucking niche groups, don't try to create a new social network or some shit, but show the world that you can appeal to different niche groups by giving them apps that are improved versions over shitty paid ones. If you can do this, then you will get rich slowly.

Mark Zuckerberg created programs that were useful to others before he even started on FB. Get a following first, gain momentum, and then start on your big ideas.

>> No.389632

>>389568

People DO NOT want to use their old systems. They will have a huge number of complaints about their current system and ways it could be improved. Your job is to create that product and make it cheaper. Also, you need someone who can SELL. A quick read at your post suggests you're not a people person so without training you have no chance jn hell of selling your product. Would you buy a car off someone who privately considered Honda to be "fags"?

>> No.389633

I'm finishing my 3d printer this weekend and already have 2 good ideas to make money.

Any idea of what I could sell? I can make pretty much everything with it since I have both solid and flexible materials. I also have glow in the dark material.

>> No.389644

>>389559
it's easy to put stupid people to work for cash with little potential

the best people work for potential and less cash because the potential is so great that any excess cash should absolutely go towards the business

if you're inexperienced/stupid like 95% of /biz/, you will not get smart people to work for you and you will fail i.e. lose all your money

>>389568
by yourself? unless you're some wunderkind developer (and even they need help at some point), you're not going to make it very far

find a successful small/mid sized company that's doing something similar in that industry and work for them. you'll gain valuable experience and learn how to run a company

>> No.389670
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389670

>>386326
>mfw I have an idea for a website
>spend 7k to developers to implement it
>keeps delaying launch
>starts demanding more and more money
>eventually give up
..
>couple months later
>another website does the exact. same. thing.
>later gets bought for 400 million

;-;

>> No.389673

>>387647
what languages do you use? java? c#?

>> No.389802

>>389523

I'm not who you were originally talking to. I just thought the phrase "idea guy" did sound like fluff to describe someone with no technical skills whatsoever who was trying to get into a cushy position where he could try his hand at micromanaging projects that real techies work on and most likely drive his division into the ground.

>> No.389804

>>389670
>I came thissssss close to being a multimillionaire

Cool story

>> No.390220

I had a tech news and reviews blog a while back and someone offered to buy it for $5000 (two of my blogs actually) when it was a little over a year old.

>> No.390231

>>385146
I have a really good idea... so there would be an app for females or males, where you have your own bulletin and you search for products that you want and put them together on your board. your board will add prices up for you and everything. so you can pin outfits together on your board to see what it looks like. You can search: pants, short, orange. Select your item and it will go to your board. search another item in example, a shirt to go with the shorts. pin it to that outfit. so this way the person can keep searching and putting things together on there board in which they can personalize and layout all of there shopping needs. every shop featured on the app will give a certain percentage of the sale. Other people would be able to look at your board to just so there's this interaction between people so they can see other people's things and want them too or influence eachother to buy things.