/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>389438

Go learn to weld and make like 20 an hour. Not an environment for pussies though.

>>389442
>20 an hour
This is good money in your eyes?

>>389438

Prostetics maker

Radiologist

Underwater welder

>>389460
It's certainly not good on your eyes, I welded for cash all through high school/college and I have a couple blind spots

>>389438
medical coding

>>389442
My dad is a welder. People honestly over estimate the pay. Hes a supervisor at a well known company. Only makes $14 and hour. Then again they live in kind of a shit state. He works hard as fuck for his money. I honestly felt shit when I got our college with no experience and started making more than him. Hes been doing it for 25 years.

>>389492
*shitty *out *of. Hate typing on a phone.

>>389492
I'm sure your dad is proud of you, m8.

Life Coaching/Career Counceling/Consultanting

Not unknown but people undervalue the profits that one can make. Friend of mine found/created a niche market and currently pulls 3k a month cash split 3 ways. They put in 6 hours a month worth of actual work. Which I would assume is the actual "coaching"

Ammo Making.

We are in Canadaland and gun nuts are more crazy here, but with the obvious restrictions. Anyways, we buy homemade rounds from some old guy and his mexican labour crew. I asked him one time what business was like since hes always there every week when we go shooting and he claims after labour costs, and the deals made to create/find/buy the base materials he pockets 4k about a month.

Only ones I know of or took an interest in at the moment.

>>389492

Lmfao 14 an hour. My uncle is a Welder been in the trade for 5 years and makes 31$/hour. He's just a basic level welder. Mainly TIG. Fabricators and higher class/trained welders which are a step up make 35+. Any kid can go take the 6 month course here in Canadaland and come out the door making 25+ starting.

Where in the fuck do you live lol?

>>389507
Seriously? I always thought life coaching was a joke. Do people really pay for it?

In the right area, EMS is prettY ballin'. $10 an hour as an emt with near infinite overtime and Im literally sitting here just kicking back or studying most of the time. Paramedic here makes about 40k without overtime.

>>389514
>10 dollars an hour
>for someone who can be the difference between life and death
Murrika

>>389514

Thats what I thought but apparently not. Just need to find the right area in which individuals lack confidence.

Another "coaching" market which has been around forever is teaching Betas to pick up women through PUA concepts. I saw someone have a whole page article dedicated to him and how his business works in one of my local city papers a few months back. Some of those guys charge like 100$+ an hour for "lessons"

>>389522
I live in a low cost area. But yeah EMTs are pretty low paid. If you go all the way to Paramedic its better...we have a guy who works one shift a month at AMR and hes at the top end of their scale making like 20 something base rate.

Part of the issue is its fucking cake easy to become an EMT. Thats sorta changing thankfully...

>>389522
Oh, my pay also sucks because I work for a county agency. Private is higher pay but the work environment sucks five thousand dicks.

>>389477

Didn't you use those visors?

>>389477
>medical coding

Can one into medical coding just being a basement dweller with coding skills or do you need to be part of a recognized firm that has suits talk to clients before obtaining a contract for a task?

I assume it's harder than popping out your own android app obviously but what are the barriers to entry going against a lone wolf wannabe coder?

>>389563
I think by medical coding is they mean the trained skill of being a medical coder, which you need to go to school for. It's not really programming and more data entry for patient info, etc.

How about this-
>>386890#

>>389496
Yeah he is. Lots of people get shit parents on the draw. I was luck and got a pretty good dad. He pushed me to work hard and do something with my life. Never did the whole "You have go to college" thing or anything. He was just encouraging.
>>389509
He lives in the US, Southeast. Yeah cost of living is cheap as fuck but the pay is shit. He makes about 38,000 a year after taxes and such. But that also required him working alot of overtime. Guy is in his 50s and is still going.

Cess pool worker. You'll make a living wage without needing a degree but you're literally working with shit.

Join the merchant marines. Sail the seas and get paid out the ass

>>389668
What do you do? Deliver explod-y stuff? You don't fight? No 'oorah! bro bullshit?

Petroleum geology is highly lucrative, even more so than petroleum engineering. But you're going to need at least a masters.

>>389438
chemical engineering

>>389438

Management consulting.

Travel 4 days a week, boss around bosses like a fucking badass, $200k/year starting salary and it only rises. Decided to settle down and have a family? Fine, you have the best possible management/business experience - start your own business, get a sexy high-level corporate job, become a professor/lecturer at an MBA/grad program, whatever you want.

>>389700
I never thought I'd see the day somebody could possibly ask what people in the merchant marine do.

>>389565

> medical data entry

Epic is the dominant company in this area, and I actually applied to this once for my local hospital. It was way below what a typical CS grad should be making, and not intellectually stimulating at all. At best it's Linux for kids.

>>389853
be merchants?

>>389784
How do you get in that?

Cop.

50k a year starting, plus more with degree. Full health benefits. Incredibly exciting/on the edge work environment.

Although, it's probably not lucrative to /biz/ STEM we all make 500k a year standards, and you'll probably deal with unpleasant shit like getting AIDs from a bloody shootout, finding a dumpster baby, or being forced to get those cop haircuts. But it can be an exciting life. Just visit /b/ and you'll be desensitized.

>>389522

Shut the fuck up namefaggot. Nobody likes you or your country.

>>389438
I have a friend from high school who works as a professional "Reposession Agent for High-Value goods". Basically he's in charge of recovering yachts, aircraft, supercars and the like from people who REALLY over-extend their credit. Kind of interesting since he obviously has to track down the assets and the people who own them, serve them with formal written notice, and then make sure that they don't make off with the assets. Depending on the difficulty of the job, he's paid between a 10% and 30% commission. Generally makes anywhere between $120,000 and $240,000 a year, although his best year was 2008, when he raked in about $400,000.

>>389879
is there a degree you need to do this kind of jobs?

>>389883
My cash flow teacher told us about this industry and he said that you first need to be a pretty buff guy since people will get mad a lot (he wasn't talking about yachts and planes but small boats and cars and real estate, etc.).

Other than that go on google I suppose.

I'm a search engine evaluator. It's an OK job where you pick your own hours, but the work gets a little repetitive. I can post a link if anyone is interested. They are hiring.

>>389983
Is this work from home stuff?

I'm in socal and am getting my marketing degree soon

>>389784
Only the people who don't know about it would fall for this

>>389983
To clarify: are you talking about SEO type work?

lol big city, high traffic quality restaurant
waiter
4k/m

stripper
male 7-10k/m
female 10-15k/m

>>389438

Truck driving

>>390113
Servers at a high quality restaurant could easily hit 5k if they're in fine dining.

Alaskan crab fishermen can make near 100k for just a couple month's work

>>389784
How do I get in/ What should I study at university?

>>389492
My friend is a weld inspector and clears £6,000 a month for 3 weeks work. He spends 3 weeks in Georgia then returns to the UK.

>>390162
*and almost dying.

>>390090
No, I'm assigned to work for the engine itself. Ironically enough I suppose you could say I do the opposite of SEO for bad sites.

>>390072
Yeah, its from home.

Here is a link to the company if anyone is interested.

https://www.leapforceathome.com/qrp/public/jobs/list?uref=43bef05dbcbb568ec07c08c9b30f55b0

college football coaches make upwards of 500k,
800k-1m is median

>>390205
It says it requires a degree or one in progress , do you have one or in the process of getting one? What do the tests consist of?

>>390205
Do I need to submit a resume? It looks nice for spare cash

>>390229
They are very hard with around a 90% fail rate if you are not familiar with the material you will fail.

That's pretty much all I can tell you about them. Nondisclosure agreements and all that.

I have an associates of general studies. I'm majoring in comp-sci and am in the process of getting a bachelor's.

If you don't have a degree, you still might be hired.

>>390232
I recommend you submit a resume. When I applied, they were not required.

>>390229
They are very hard with around a 90% fail rate if you are not familiar with the material you will fail.

That's pretty much all I can tell you about them. Nondisclosure agreements and all that.

I have an associates of general studies. I'm majoring in comp-sci and am in the process of getting a bachelor's.

If you don't have a degree, you still might be hired.

>>390232
I recommend you submit a resume. When I applied, they were not required.

>>390325
what subjects are on the test?

>>390329
NDA dude. I can however recommend that should you be provided with study material of any kind you should learn the material in order to pass the exam. The same goes for all tests which you have probably taken in your life.

>>390338
wow. you're a paranoid pos, and the link you gave is probably some phising scam.

like some co is EVEN going to find this comment here, and then SUCCESSDULLY hunt down the who made the comment here.

>>390206
Those negroes are worthless faggots

>>390345
proof?

>>390360
sorry brah, nda.

>>390205
what exactly does the test consist of? I currently am working on my MS in Comp Sci at GA Tech and have a bunch of free time, what does the test consist of?

>>390463
The test pretty much only consists of the practices required to do the job. You don't need to have a math degree or comp sci. to do well, you just need good memorisation and the ability to apply the practices you read about. I'm not entirely sure how the hiring program works, but given some of the material which I have worked on, a CS degree focused in programing would be beneficial to doing the job

Also good to the guy who just applied.

>>389879
How do you get into that? That's like my ideal job, don't even care about the money, I just want that kind of adventure.

>>389438
drugs

>>389563
cheminformatics/bioinformatics developer, do regular coding stuff, but instead doing some erp or telco bullshit you work with molecules/biomolecules. On the downside if you are a dev you will need someone with the domain specific knowledge but the market is there and some of the competing products are atrocious. Big pharma can pay. Also, it feels you make the world a better place a little.

>>389477
I have a friend who is doing this as a summer job. He said if he sticks with it for a couple years he could possibly advance to a position where he would earn around 70k a year.

>>390569
Welding?
How does one initially step into a welding position?

>>389870
you deliver goods like a regular commercial ship and if the us armed forces need you to carry a missile or troops with your usual order of bananas you do that.

>>389872
>everyone hates you
>everyone expects you to be an asshole even if you aren't
>implyben officer baby boomer makes more than lower middle class wages

>>390171
>-12k a year in plane tickets alone

>>389492
This.

I was driving cross country and a welder ad came on the radio boasting that it offered competitive pay for experienced welders...

> $17/hour!

For some reason 4chan thinks welding is the be-all, end-all of careers, but really you'll cap out at most $40k/year and give yourself lung cancer at 55, that's assuming joint pains don't take you out of the game before that.

>>390616
It depends on the location.

Police on Long Island, NY make over $100k just for breathing for 5 years, that doesn't include OT and night diff. Unless you are in one of the precincts that has to babysit the few black towns, you'll generally drive around and do stuff like give out traffic tickets and respond to old ladies complaining of noise at 3pm inbetween getting free coffee from Dunkin Donuts.

If you have to patrol a black/hispanic neighborhood you'll become a bitter racist when you keep arresting the same idiot once a week and see him out on bail 2 days later.

only people making money off welding are in canada and northwest u.s.

Everywhere else is pretty stagnant low pat. You'l get a job, but destroy your body chasing that check.

>>390744
that's most physical jobs though.

i don't like welding, never have, i'm in the qa side of things and it's a little bit more chill over here.

Well I got a license in a day for 400 bucks and I make 70k a year with my current employment after only having been there for a short while.

Thinking of getting a weekend job too to bump it up to 100k (150% pay on weekends), I was looking into being a part-time train conductor but there weren't any jobs out. Maybe a store-job or something would work out.

>>390528

I guess my question was, in order to bid for contracts or get work do you have to be hired by or a partner in and established software firm?

>>389492
Dang. Im a landscaper with no training and i make $14 an hour

How about a Private Military Contractor? I heard they make well over six figures per season

stationary engineer.
you sit on your ass in a boiler room 80% of the time and when something fucks up you fix it.

>>390500
I have no idea how he got into it, I think it was just a function of knowing the right people. His family used to hang around kinda shady upper-middle class folks, I am assuming he heard of a way in from there.

>>389438
I just started selling timeshares. Out of about 50 associates, we have 5 walking home with $40,000 this month. Around 20 are making about $10,000 this month. Then it rounds out with most making around $5,000. Some will bring home shit, but that's their own fault. Talking to people around the office, the best year I've seen so far was $487,000. That's out of people still there. A lot of the top sellers moved to management at other sites, hence me being brought on.

I have 3 years of college, but no degree. I'm the youngest guy in the office by a few months. I'm expected to make $70,000 this year. Not for socially stunted anons, though.

>>390843
no more contracts...

pmcs had a solid run from 1950 to 2007.

1950 to 2001 in africa
and iraq and Afghanistan would be the other years

you could easily pull 800$ a day but theres limited demand now

but africa was the best you could have no training and the rhodesian army would hire you to kill niggers all day... Rhodesian army had a amazing kill death ratio.. One operation they killed 1400 niggers with no losses

>>389438

Under the table payday loans

>>390617
Are you fucking stupid?
Companies usually pay for the transport of highly skilled employees.

>>390761
If you're still around, could you provide more details?
What license did you get? What is your current job?

>>390616
yesterday i was driving on a dirt road in the boonies (granted the dirt road leads to a very nice community of 20 huge houses) i was going 35 and the speed limit is 25. please tell me he didnt have better things to do than sit outside that road and give me a ticket, like actually go after criminals

>>390874
thats literally a numbers game, no skill goes into it and managment routinely brings in family/friends while they lay off the people they dont like

all you need is to know the right person like i did

worked for hilton, and they were laying off people by the hundreds, "somehow" i got in, literally the easiest job I ever had and the scummiest, all you had to do was wait for the person who said yes

Explosive Ordnance Disposal/Bomb Squad

Sure it's dangerous but you get to blow shit up and finger fuck bombs. Go to intense school for 1 year while getting paid and go out and get expierience for 3-8 years. then go back to cushy civie life for 6-figure job or stay in and go officer for that sweet ass pension.

>>389563
Medical coding is not programming nor is it anything like it.

>>390528
The money in medical coding is in clinical coding. I'm only 21 and making $60k a year fresh out of community college working 8 am to 4:30 pm at a clinic doing bullshit.

Bioinformatics is nothing like medical coding.

>dev

It's not like that. Coders take diagnostic reports and turn them into numerical values which the insurance company uses to properly bill the patient.

Date of Procedure: 6/5/20xx
Patient Name: John Smith
DOB: 10/13/19xx

Diagnosis: Pigmented mole
Procedure Performed: Cryoablation of pigmented mole

Indications: Mr. Smith is a 50-year-old male who comes into the office today to have a pigmented mole removed. The mole is located on the patient’s back right at the level of his waistband, which is causing discomfort and irritation. He is requesting removal of the offending mole. The plan today is to remove the mole via cryoablation.

Procedure: The area around the mole was prepped with a Betadine solution and injected with 1 cc of lidocaine mixed with epinephrine. We proceeded to apply liquid nitrogen to the mole to freeze it down to the cutaneous level for adequate destruction of the lesion. I placed a dressing on the area to avoid irritation by the patient’s clothing. The patient tolerated the procedure well with no complications, with the plan to return to the office in a week for follow-up.

Becomes

CPT code: 17110 - Destruction (eg, laser surgery, electrosurgery, cryosurgery, chemosurgery, surgical curettement), of benign lesions other than skin tags or cutaneous vascular proliferative lesions; up to 14 lesions

ICD-9-CM code: 216.5 - Benign neoplasm of skin of trunk, except scrotum

>>391028
>thats literally a numbers game, no skill goes into it and managment routinely brings in family/friends while they lay off the people they dont like

Nobody at my branch is related; I got the job off of an open listing. And you're not waiting around for the person to say yes, we're insanely proactive during our sales presentations. There's skill involved, because the people doing $20,000 in volume are getting the same exact leads as those doing $350,000.

I also wouldn't call anything I've seen thus far "scummy." I've worked for more disreputable companies than my current one.

>>391033
typical response you would expect from a true timeshare salesman, i quit so i could actually do a job that adds value to our country instead of line jew pockets

>>391033
not gonna lie though, working 5 months a year was fun for a bit

>>391037
Our CEO isn't jewish, nor is the CEO of the conglomerate we operate as a branch of. We're also one of the best performing stocks on the NYSE, so we're adding more value to the country than Hilton through both resort construction and investment. To think that a thriving business adds no value to the country is juvenile.

>>391038
We work year round. Why would you only work 5 months out of the year?

crane operator

just make sure you aren't scared of heights

>>390205
Do I need to know another language?

>>391059
You only need to know English.

>>390966
Oh sorry, didn't say what the license was. Just woke up so here you go if you're still here.

I got a truck license and moved to Norway. It's easy, just get a shitty job there as you apply and you will be approved since you've already found work, quit the job once you've found something else. Even if you don't have experience you can manage to find a warehouse job in parts of Norway since they're screaming for personell here, several people without any experience at my current employment.

We get a pretty much obligatory bonus at 800-1k a month here as well as standard pay (with a few hours of over-time a week) being 5k. At the moment I save 2.5k a month but I'll manage over three once I move locations and get rid off my car.

I will be making more money monthly from my wage+dividends than anyone who educated themselves for four years in my old country, plus I wont have to bother with the studying/student debt. I'm currently 21.

>>390357
Worthless?
Nick Saban makes seven million a year from coaching american football.
One of the poorest states in America wouldn't pay a football coach 7 million per year if he was "worthless".

>>390463
You're working on your masters in comp sci at GA Tech and you want to work on SEO bullshit work from home stuff? What in the fuck are you doing? Develop your own apps bud.

>>391279

I know someone is going to call me a dumbshit because of this, but getting an education is more than just a tool for getting a job.

For me, I got a degree in Economics and it's helped refine my thinking so much. I'm not there yet, but when I save up a little bit more money I'll be starting my own business. I can say without question that my degree will help immensely with this.

>>391288
I've been reading some micro, macro and gaming theory compendiums in my spare time at home. You don't necessarily need a degree to expand your thinking.

Out of curiosity, what business are you looking to start up?

>>390923
Suck it Kojima, PMC's are going down the shitter and there's nothing you can do about it no matter how much shit you write

>>389565
Shut the fuck up you filthy bar wench.

>>391285
Apps are risk reward. A stable job through college will enable him to minimize student loans.

>>389563
Ok faggot
I work as a charge entry specialist in medical billing

Medical coding is like say you code for an urologist. They get a testosterone injection. That's a 257.2

Just look up and read up on ICD-9 or 10

I could be wrong on what coding is since I'm just a biller and I doubt you see this but there ya go

>>391662
Coder here, you're right.

I'm sick of faggots thinking medical coders are the same as java programmers and web developers.

What the fuck?

>>391838
>I'm sick of faggots thinking medical coders are the same as java programmers and web developers.
>med coders think they aren't lower-tier than web devs
top fucking kek. At least the web devs have to match colors. You're a code monkey, nothing else. Indians will be doing your job in a few years.

>>392456
>indians
so fucking tru

>>392456
meanwhile, you can cheat by contracting indians to do your job

>>389442

My dad started off as a welder after leaving the army.

Now he earns six figures easily as a pipeline supervisor and senior welder (he essentially inspects the inspectors). The companies ask him if he wants a job, rather than the other way round. He gets flown out to the line for eight weeks to three months, all expenses paid and usually put in a hotel, does a relatively easy job and comes home with the pay after renting his house out for that time, and collects that money too. He then travels the world for as long as he likes, he recently did six months exploring east asia and relaxing in five star hotels. Furthermore, if my dad forgoes working on the line and does office work, he can make even more money, though he gets bored to tears so he rarely accepts them.

He also buys properties then rents them, small flats in major cities in the UK.

> be welder
> take courses when free
> work way up the ladder
> work 3 months, relax for 6
> live in nice hotels and have food/petrol/drink paid
> come home with mad pay
> buy property
> collect dosh everytime you come home

>>390615
>usual order of bananas
So are the merchant marines the guys who ship arms to third-world countries whenever the CIA orders them to?

>>392456
>code monkey

That's not how it works. It has nothing to do with computer programming or IT whatsoever.

It's a mixture of diagnosis reporting, medical records clerical shit, and the financial side of the clinical billing process.

To be a medical coder you have to hold a special state-level certification, to achieve which you have to test in aspects of anatomy, physiology, medical reporting, and general diagnosis.

You also have to have a certain number of accounting classes, depending on your state's requirements.

>>392824
So just a glorified secretary/offiice admin?

What do you guys think of civil engineering? Is it worth it in your opnions?

>>389983
How much does it pay?

>>392979
worse, a glorified secretary who thinks of themselves as more than that.

>>393033
13.50 an hour. I posted the link earlier in the thread.

>>393050
Yeah, I saw that you posted a link with your reference. $25 per person that joins with that link of yours, right? Nice.

Roughly, how much do you make per month? I just learned that you receive tasks and they only take minutes, not hours.

>>393053
Protip: If someone is passing out a link to try to get people to join in order to earn money, chances are the job itself has almost zero pay and horrible hours.

When passing out links is more productive than working, it's a red flag.

>>393035
Ya I mean it's just basic data entry, even with the best most exaggerated description these guys gave, it just screamed data entry fagget.

'medical coder' lel top lel

Porn star

>>393053
I generally make around $1080 a month part time 20 hours a week. I'm thinking I'll step it up to forty next month since I'm starting up on aderall.

I don't make much money on referrals given that I'm only paid a commission if a new employee meets criteria which 90% fail to meet.

Understand that this job requires a certain amount of ability and memorization which most people fail to pursue. There is a reason that employees are paid $13.50/hr minimum. 90% of applicants are rejected due to quality.

My main motive here is get some people employed given that the residents of 4chan have a tendency to be NEET.

>>393062
I'm an insomniac, so I often find myself lying in bed unable to sleep. I often post on 4chan to relax, and should I find myself awake after a certain period of time I go back to the job. It's one of the reasons I chose this job. Aside from that my laptop is suffering from power supply issues.

Aside from your arguments, I actually feel as though the actions of my employment helps people slightly which makes my job worthwhile. Mturk helps a private party while my job serves the public general.

Femanon here.

I make about 500k a year as a stripper. It's easy work and I only really 'work' about 2 hours a week.

>>393154
Always wondered, what are your reaction to feminists complaining about strippers, how they're used by the club owners and degraded by the patriarchy?

>>393160

>degraded
>used

If anyone's being used, it's the men. I'm making bank (literally 45k a month, hard cash) from horny idiots that aren't even allowed to touch me, and I don't even need to really work, study or do anything for it. Just look pretty.

>>393160
>feminists complaining about strippers, how they're used by the club owners and degraded by the patriarchy?
I've never met a feminist that does this. When I had to take women's studies for the third fucking time, I wrote a paper about the benefits of stripping on the psyches of women just to troll, and it was incredibly well-received. Still failed that class for a third time.

>>390144
I was driving about 9 straight hours to Michigan for my brother's wedding, and having screwed up my chances at a BFA, with no idea where to go, and a bit of debt from student loans hanging over my head, I looked at the trucks moving down the highway and was jealous that they got to keep driving and I had to get out to be an usher at a wedding and tell various family members why I'm no longer in school but also hadn't graduated.

I've been looking into it as a potential backup plan. Trying to salvage my college credits into something at community college this fall.

Anyone have anything they could tell me about the job?

>>393154
I wonder how well paid male strippers are comparatively. Also because that sounds like an awesome gig.

>>393179
>Anyone have anything they could tell me about the job?
Guy down the street from me did it. You can't have anyone you care about back home. Seriously. It's lonely, too.

>>393181

Very little, sadly.

The most a male stripper would ever see is 20k a year. If he's very, very, very lucky and very, very talented.

>>393165
Fuck, sometimes I wish I were a girl

I'm from Sweden for that matter, so it's probably a "bigger issue" than anywhere else

>>393182
Anon this is 4chan. I'm not social awkward in the slightest but I'm a complete introvert and spend more time alone by choice than most truckers likely do. This is one of those areas where people try to tell me the negatives of a job and they sound like positives to me.

>>393183
That's a damn shame. From what I understand they have to work a bit harder at it too. They have to put more effort into putting on a show and the women they're stripping for usually act rowdier than men do at strip clubs.

>>392979
No.

>>393035
Wrong again, faggot.

http://www.aapc.com/what-does-a-medical-coder-do.aspx

Just read this website. I give up on your retarded ass.

>>390923
>>390843
Prior military here, the market for contractors is absolutely saturated. To be any sort of trigger puller you need insane qualifications, special forces would be a minimum these days. The military churned out so many shooters in the last 13 years, long story short: supply is enormous and demand isn't really going up.

You can still get jobs standing in guard towers in boring places like Kuwait though, but making way less.

>>393154
I have a hard time believing you aren't a troll

>>393183
like any other job, it really matters where you work.

>>393186
you are going to kill yourself in less than six years

>>393441
Itrovert but do a depressed sadsack. I'm know how to be happy wherever I am and exactly how much of a social life I need. A few loose friends, large family elsewhere, and the Internet are enough to keep my sanity, bit much more than that tires me. I can fake being an extrovert well enough but I don't depend on it.

>>393469
Damn phone, meant "introvert but not a depressed sadsack..."

>>389471
Do ear prostetic makers make a lot? There is a 2 year grade on a school here and it's always filled with girls. Tempted to try it out, but not sure if I will find a job ( im from spain)

>>389438
The tough guy that "cleans up" the bars, discotechs etc. They don't work more than four hours and still get a pretty decent pay for doing nothing but deciding who enters and beating up some people.

>>389438
lot of ex SF guys make absolute bank running firearms handling courses over weekends. Travel accommodation plus fees all payed. Make thousands for 18hrs of "work" playing with guns

>>390592
Take a class, get a cert, start at a workshop doing small-time stuff for ~$15/hr
Then as you get more experience you basically get paid more for the same work
I'm >>389477, and with 5 years of experience I was making $45/hr for the same basic stuff I'd been doing before, I was just able to do it much faster and much better
The holy grail of welding jobs is underwater welding, that's what pays the big bucks. I had an offer for it, but I wanted to do EE instead. Currently a sophomore in undergrad, and if I wanted to go back and do it right now I probably could. It's a REALLY valuable skill to have, but even with a visor it messes with your eyes. Most of my blind spots are from walking in on other people welding without a visor, though. The light is strong enough to cause damage through your eyelids if you're close enough to it.

>>389875
I do.

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>>389509
>mainly TIG
pleb level welding

>>389871
>>390170

For undergrad, probably do a major in business, management, or something related, and have a REALLY REALLY outstanding resume/GPA. But to make the really big bucks you would need a JD/MBA/both.

>>390077
Why do you say that? I learned about how great management consulting is from actual management consultants at McKinsey, PwC, and Accenture. If you can handle the travel then it's not bad at all. Like if you're single and don't want a family. Then once you want to have a family you can switch careers more easily than almost any other field

>>392985
Seconding this, I'd like to know.

>>389784
you're a complete retard who knows fuck all about anything. the top tier consulting firms -- mckinsey, bain, and boston consulting group -- all require elite pedigree and the first year salary and bonus is only $80-90k/yr.

>>389438
look into geology

>>393981
can you be more specific?

>>393974

For undergrad, yes, McKinsey, BCG, and Bain only accept from top-tier elite pedigree as you stated, and for an undergraduate/bachelor's degree consultant, or "junior consultant" as they refer, the salary is about $80-90k.

As for the "top-tier" pedigree, yeah you have to be a great student and really know your shit, which is what anyone who knows english would expect from a title like "management consultant", bossing around bosses. But as you said, the TOP TOP TOP firms like McKinsey and Bain only hire elite, however there are about a dozen other firms that are almost as big, hire way more MBAs, and the salary is pretty much the same as the McKinsey consultants (~200k). MBA's from Big Ten schools, and even shit-tier schools get offered the job. Each of the dozen other consulting firms has dozens of offices throughout the country, many in secondary/tertiary cities/regions where there are no great MBA programs. The number of big-name management consulting offices in the US alone is possibly in the thousands. What they truly look for is if your behaviors match that of a consultant, you can work with people, and you have great business acumen/experience. And if you truly want to do that, and have the skill set for it, these firms will recognize that in interviews. The people I work with are consultants, and many of them used to do interviews and select employees, and I'm getting most of my information from them. But a lot of the salary information is from here:
http://managementconsulted.com/consulting-salaries/2014-management-consulting-salaries-undergraduate-mba-interns/

>not working for Academi doing armed security
all you need is military or law enforcement experience.
Be a cop for 5 years and you can go from 80k in big cities to 150k by being a private military contractor

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>>389438
Auctioneer, That's what I do. I make money off selling shit that's not even mine. I charge between 15-40% for my services. I get all types of clients. Usually make 1k+ for every completed auction which takes about 16 hours of work +,- a few hours sometimes. I'm the owner and lead a small team. Work environment is chill because I hired some friends and people like me. I like to have fun at work so I make it that way for myself. Only needed to get a license which was easy as pie.

>>390338
Wow, you really are giving great weight to an extremely difficult to enforce contract.

>>391279
Do you speak Norwegian? Are you a native english speaker, and to get this right you got a job driving a lory with a $400 license?

If you're in Australia Fly In Fly Out (FIFO) work is the way to go.

I do earthmoving stuff on a 3 week on, 3 week off roster and usually rope in at least $100k a year. Plus, 3 weeks off gives me time to work at home (for cash, of course).

It can be a difficult industry to break into though.

>>394600

What kind of qualifications do you have?

>>393594
get to beat the shit out of douchebags too

Perth kid here

>>395151
He'll have none.

>>394600
Boom is over mate, I'll be laughing at you queuing outside Centrelink while I goto my job I attended university to qualify for.

Hitman

>>389442

I'm not being a troll here, I've always genuinely been curious. People always say pipefitters/welders have extremely hard work conditions and I respect that. I'm just trying to understand what it is that makes it so hard? Aren't you just sitting there welding?

Again, excuse my ignorance, I'm truly trying to understand.

What about Exploration Geologist?

>>395716

So is there anything to do with wilderness and being a prole that's lucrative in Australia now? What the point of the place otherwise?

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Any offshore people here? Particularly ones in the gulf. I've been trying to break into that field for quite some time but with no luck. What do?

>>393388
>You can still get jobs standing in guard towers in boring places like Kuwait though, but making way less.
Is the demand for this high as well, and can a civilian without prior law enforcement or military experience do this?

>>392456
Nah, in 5 years when natural language processing matures it'll just get automated

>>389442
Isn't that shit incredibly harmful for your lungs? The fumes that it produces fuck your lungs up hardcore I hear, not to mention the eyesight thing.

>>391032
Thanks for that insightful post. What is it exactly that you do at your clinic?

Learn how to repair old watches. The average watchmaker today is over retirement age, and there aren't any young people to replace them. There's still a demand because millions of people still have heirloom watches and they're willing to pay anything to get them working again because of the sentimental value. I've only been doing this for a couple of years now. I've already tripled my prices and I still have more work coming in than I can handle.

>>397691
how long did it take you to learn how to repair them?

>>397851
It took me about a year before I was comfortable on most watches. There's an insane variety of them out there though, especially for stuff that's more than 150 years old, so I'm running in to new stuff all the time. All of it is possible to figure out though if you can fundamentally understand how mechanical watches work and you take the time to think about what you do before you do it.

>>397691
>>397864
good post

>>397864
how much money do you make? do you work from home?

>>397875
My most common job is overhauling a watch. This involves disassembling the watch, cleaning everything, and polishing and oiling any bearing surfaces. I can pretty easily overhaul a watch in a couple of hours and I charge $200 for that service. If there's something broken in the watch, I charge $50 an hour for my time plus materials costs to fix it.

In the end, I can do $1000-1200 worth of work a in a 16 hour day. That doesn't actually translate into 20 or 30 thousand a month though. A lot of my time is spent on keeping records, communicating with my clients, and networking to expand my business. All of this means that only about two thirds of the time that I spend "working" is directly making me money.

To sum it up, if I'm working hard, I can pull in about 12-15 thousand a month.

>>397884
also, I do work form home, though it might be more accurate to say that I live at my business.

>>397875
tags are on man. it sounds interesting though

>>389668
This my brother in law is in the maritime union of Australia, works as a deckhand and makes 185k a year. The union has strong ties with wharfie unions in Straya,America and shit meaning if a ship comes to those waters without Aussie crew, it wont be unloaded, hence why the get payed out the ass. I'm presuming the American guys have similar connections.

>>397954
bumpin for American maritime connections

>>397691
how do you advertise your services?

also have you ever fucked up someone's heirloom watch by accident?

>>397691

Where do you even begin with that?

How do you practice? Did you learn from books?

>>398207
I mostly advertise myself by being an active member of the community (lol), since I've tried to keep the business local. I give periodic presentations at the local college to continuing education classes and at the retirement community in town. This is good for me because the people who show up are generally interested in watches and have plenty of money. I also put up my business card at bulletin boards at restaurants and community buildings in the town. I haven't had much success with online advertising; I think because most of my potential customer base is no good with computers.

I've made mistakes on heirlooms before, but it's never been something I couldn't correct. I still carry insurance to cover my ass if I fuck up big time, though.

>>398221
I started on ebay. You can buy old broken watches there for $20 or less. Practice on them and then resell them (you shouldn't do this to make a living though because the markets majorly depressed since 2008)

I learned from old books (also bought on ebay), since no one today who knows their ass from a hole in the ground is publishing anything useful. The US government set up several watchmaking schools around the country to train returning soldiers after WWII. You can find a copy of the curriculum for less than $100. A lot less than some college textbooks today.

>>398243
what made you interested in such a niche practice in the first place

>>390699
Long Islander here
you'll be busting up house parties and just generally being a worthless cunt. Suburban Cop is a pretty cushy job otherwise.

Actuary.
>Don't need a degree, just need to pass certification exam
>Dope pay
>Work from home
>No drug tests
>Highest career happiness
>People skydiving in informational brochures

>>399970
Is the actual work difficult?

>>398243

So would this business consist of repairing those round chained pocket watches from the middle ages or for the self winding wristwatches whose manufacture peaked in the 1970s when Japan got in the game?


I still see ads for classy looking mechanical watches with big name brands like Rolex, Tudor, Audemars Peauget so I assume that's the bulk of the resale market. But there must also be counterfeits in the market, how would you defend against that since most ebayers are probably not established businesses?

>>389442
Let me clear some shit up. I got training as a welder and did it for awhile until i decided to go back to school.

I got started out at $15. Some of the people there were making as high as $20. I think the supervisors capped out at $25. The thing is, that is about the ceiling unless you get into some really dangerous shit.

My working conditions for what i was doing were considered fairly good. Picture an extremely large warehouse with 50ft high ceilings with train tracks running through part of it. Whatever the temperature is outside its about 15 degrees hotter inside. The is a conveyer belt about 4 ft off the ground. On top of the belt are steel plates about 20ft by 30 ft. At one end of the belt you have just the plates. As you get further down the line, progressively more and more i beams are laid ontop of the plates. The people putting the Ibeams in place ( which weigh about 8 tons a piece) are called fitters. You get promoted from a welder to a fitter if you aren't retarded in a few years.

By the time you get 2/3 down the line is where the welders come in. When everything has been put into place then you stitch weld the ibeams onto the plate. SO you have to climb onto the conveyor belt and weld where ever the marked in chalk. The thing is these ibeams are 20-30 ft long. So you can't just sit down in a chair and weld, and once you are on the belt the beams are only a 12-18 inches tall. So you wind up on your hands and knees all day crawling around on steel. We had 10 hour days. And in the summer if it was 100 degrees outside it would push 115-120 inside. Combine that with crawling on plate all day in full welding gear and it could get pretty miserable.

>>400345
We had about 300 employees who did everything from fitting, welding, fabricating, painting the finished structures, machining, and a dedicated janitorial staff. We only had 2 female employees, a secretary and the office manager.

If you really want to do welding. Get into stainless steel tig welding. Learn to weld pipe. You could potentially make 30-40% more than me doing regular structural welding like like i was doing. The only thing is, every single time you weld something you are signing your name. If you mess up, something fails, and it is not caught in inspection people can die. This is especially true if you are working on pressure vessels. The more dangerous the potential thing you are making the more money you can make welding it.

If you really want to make money, you need your own setup, and a trailer to tow behind you to live in. You do road work where you travel around the country welding. You can make over 100K doing that. A lot of younger guys do that for 4 or 5 years. The only problem is gas prices, eventually your gas will offset whatever extra money you are bringing in.

You can make money welding, but it will be extremely hard work. The reason i stopped is because i fucked up and hurt my hand. I just decided i didn't have what it takes. I decided to go back and finish of my schooling (i flunked out the first time and lost a full ride scholarship). Ive been at it for a year and have gotten straight A's. Im going for metallurgical engineering. With my machinist and welding experience ive had, im hoping it will give me a little bit of an edge.

Amway Independent Business Owner.

It really depends on how much effort you're willing to put into it, but if you're a go-getter you can build a passive income of $5K a month in no time

Only qualifications are a can-do attitude and the balls to work for yourself instead of being a wage slave like everyone else..

>>400384
> Amway
> Amway
> Amway

> if you're a go-getter you can build a passive income of $5K a month in no time

The only thing it costs you is any relationship you've built with family or friends! Sign up today!

>>400389
If they can't support you in following your dreams, you don't need them anyways :^)

>>400384
amway? you mean you fell for a multilevel marketing scam? holy shit, son. get out of there.

>>400345
>>400367

evaluate this plan:
live in Illinois
get certification
move to Washington
get welding job there
transition to other employment when possible

seems like it would be a job you could easily find employment in, paying a living wage that would provide some stability in the transition, yeah?

>>400456
Do not put too much faith into what a certificate can get you. Most companies could not care less that you have a certificate. Every welding job i applied for made you take a weld test before they even gave you an interview. Your skills are what matters, not what kind of papers you can show off.

Make sure that whatever training program you go to their instructors are all experienced CWI's (certified welding inspector). Any program that is not using CWI's as instructors is worthless.

Also who you know is very important. All the instructors at my school knew the area businesses and had connections at them. They knew who was hiring, who payed the best, and where they thought you would be a good fit.

So unless you already know the businesses and the Washington area well, get ready for a very long, hard job hunt. You will also be going in blind because you don't have any tips on what businesses are the best to work for.

Also training takes a long time. The program i went into was from 3pm-11pm Monday-Friday for 22 weeks. There was book work and theory involved as well. At the end of it you are competent enough to realize how much you suck at welding and how little you actually know about the subject.

The place i worked for payed reasonably and treated their employees very well. They provided us with gatorade, had the break room freezer packed with ice cream sandwiches, regularly brought in other food and snacks in the break room. They looked after you. It doesn't seem like much, but when you are in that kind of heat and they just have that stuff there for you it makes a difference.

>>400445
Multi level marketing is one of the only industries with a HUGE emphasise on personal development, just because you're negative and can't do it yourself don't try and crush other peoples dreams.

>>389983
please do, mail up here.

>>400486
you're obviously in denial, mate.
MLMs are not known for bringing in the bacon unless you're near the top of the pyramid.

>>400495
>falling for the bait this hard

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Carpet stretching. You could have the business up and running for less that $2000. Most installers do a shit job and they need to be stretched after one or two years. If you do good work customers will look for you. Mostly working in empty homes so you can just listen to your tunes and take lunch whenever.

>>400486
>don't try and crush other peoples dreams

It's called "shaking sense into delusional people".

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>>390077
haha xactly

Mortician.

You can get a degree in mortuary science. Run your own funeral home, embalm bodies, and generally respect the dead and comfort the living.

Pays well too, as there isn't an excessive number of people entering the work force.

Got a BS in Biology and my med-school and pharm-school plans got scrapped. Originally wanted to go into Computer Science but Biology had most of the prereqs. Looking into picking up programming again, but are there any upcoming technolgy careers where my bio degree might give me an advantage? Would I have any advantage in bioinformatics? I want to avoid going back to school.

UPS drivers are making over 100k a year these days.

$33.70 an hour.
minimum 7 hours overtime per week.
Some guys working 15-20 hours of overtime per week.

If you like being unsupervised and driving around all day it's a sweet gig. people with bad backs or knees do not apply.

>>403687
>I want to avoid going back to school.
gonna be hard to do much with a BS in Biology. It's mostly a stepping stone degree to further education. You could try applying to random state institutions that do studies and shit on the environment maybe.

>>403691

I second this as a current UPS driver. Been doing it for a year, kicking ass. It feels good knowing I can be making 6 figures before I'm 30.

I got an Associates degree in an oversaturated market and said fuck it when this opportunity arose.

>>403691
how physically fit do you need to be? how heavy are boxes?

>>404644

UPS warehouse supervisor here, the company is starting to hire a shit loads of drivers to prevent the past holiday fuckups. They only hire from within unless you are applying for a specialty job like a diesel mechanic or analytical office shit.

The boxes are heavy as fuck. No air conditioning, 100+ deg temps means 110+ in the trailers... I was a loader for 8 months before I got promoted. It all depends when you join the company what starting position you will get stuck in. If you have half a brain and bust your fucking ass you can get promoted to management or driving in only a few months.

>>389872

Dis.

I'm in the process of trying to be this. Being bilingual, college-educated, and a minority will give me some serious pay bonuses. If I did the math right and the cop websites didn't lie, I can start in almost any department in CA at aroung 55-60k a year and can easily be making 80-90k after about 5 years. more if i move up and be a big shot.

>>389438
Hospice nurse

You get to welcome people to the great magnet in the sky

>>404659
>>404659
what's the starting salary before you make driver?

>>404694
My wife does this. She is pretty emotionless. Good field for young nurses since you get to bury your mistakes

>>404859
>Bury your mistakes.
My sides are in orbit.

Leapforce guy here. Looks like someone in this thread got the job. Congrats

>>399969

This. Being a Long Island cop is literally just being the No-Fun Police for college kids, though you may get paid some fat wads under the table by bar owners for busting shitty frat keggers in order to drive more business to their sticky bars that totally don't sell drinks to minors.

>>404907
Dammit... I was going to apply...

>>404916
There are still multiple positions open. I'm just saying someone got hired.

>>404920
Cool. I have to go back to the link. Do they have any quota for amount of work per week, or is it work when you want?

>>404926
Pretty much work when you want.

>>397886
How did you learn to do that? Any qualifications/education or is it just a freelance type thing?

Private Investigating

Uncles been doing it for years, it takes him maybe 10-15 mins to complete a background check that he'll charge $35 for. He also does skip tracing, depending on the circumstances (how much info he's given and how long it took) he can charge anywhere from $80-$300, and this is all done sitting at home on his laptop. He's self employed, and also depending on state laws, P.I. licenses are required and can be pretty hard to get but I'm pretty sure this is what I'll end up doing

>>404935
Did you get the impression that they paid much attention to resume/cv stuff or does it pretty much all stem from the test?

>>405205
Where would I begin with that kind of buisness? that sounds fascinating.

>>405660
this. I won't be sending a resume but will try inputting other necessary things.

>>404935
to add, the willing to work for xx hours on the application. Is that negotiable later on?

>>401602
How much do you charge for that

>>394582

how does that work? what kind of things do you auction?

>>405936
meh, it seems you need a resume after all.

>>404935
and, why do I need to live in some country for 5 years? What if I just migrated and lived there for 3 years?

>>400482
>break room packed with Ice
>ice cream sandwiches
Damn anon I worked as a fabricator for 4 years and goddamn that shit sounds godly.

>>405903
It depends on your state, 10 states (last I checked) don't require licenses. Some states like Florida, Nevada, and California have pretty strict requirements (certain amounts of previous investigative experience such as law enforcement, military intelligence, or insurance claims adjusters in some cases, exams focusing on investigative skills and law pertaining to PI work, and so many seminars or conferences, though a degree in Criminal Justice will reduce these). Once you get licensed you may also have to get bonded and carry insurance. As far as the actual work Is concerned there's a lot of options. You can do surveillance (workman comp. and infidelity), background checks (pre employment, new tennants, or criminal/civil), skip tracing (personal and due diligence), process serving, record pulling, and I'm rarer cases security. The pay is generally nice, but jobs are hard to come by and very competitive. Because of this most PIs are self employed. I'd be happy to answer any questions or look into something for you.

Tl;dr You may need to be licensed and insured, the work is more of a trade then something learned in class, jobs hard to find so most are self employed.

>>406088
In*

>>390205

Maaaaaaaan! I misslcliked my Yukon projected and hit "Do not accept"

DDD:

Is there still any hope for me?

Just finished the LeapForce application.
Regardless of whether I get it or not, thanks LeapForce Anon

Beer merchandiser.

How about petroleum or mining engineering? Any anons working in these industries?

>>389477

>20 dollar an hour
>becoming half blind

Sounds great.

Specialization. My friend designs tips of gear wheel spikes for a living. His salary is around 8000€/month.

>>403687
Yes, obviously having a bio degree and being a programmer will give you big advantages. There are a lot of companies and startups in medicine or bio -related fields that want to hire programmers who know the domain as well.

>>406408
> My friend designs tips of gear wheel spikes for a living.

>draws cones in sketchup for 8000/mo

what a scamwow

>>406352
Ya done goofed, Anon. Send support an email and see if they can help.

Also congrats to the other guy who just got approved.

nuclear field technician. It's safe, easy, and good money. Yet these jobs are understaffed in the US because people have irrational fears of radiation.

No, it doesn't require a college degree (you're thinking about nuclear engineers). I'm talking about the dudes that haul around the supplies and crank the bolts in nuclear power plants.

>>406455

Laugh at him for me when he's replaced in five years and starts eating Wonder Bread with his 2.5 kids and hot bitch wife..

>>407718
what's the physical demands like? Is it something that'll destroy your knees and back in 10 years?

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Guess it's not unknown but being a Cop can give you some good money. I live in California mind you so living costs are fucking high as fuck and pay tries to match it.
Lemme give you an example of 1st year pay I could get from a local department I might try for in a year or two when I get my degree and blah blah.

Base Pay as a first year academy graduate: $67,980
Signing Bonus that goes with it is $10,000 given in 3 payments
Education Bonus for having a BS/BA is $5000 also given in 3 payments
Education Pay Incentive: 5% of Base pay
Bilingual Pay Incentive (Shit ton of spanish classes will pay for themselves): 5% of Base pay

So: Base Pay + 10% increase from degree and bilingual is $74,778 as pure base salary. Add on the $15,000 in bonuses from signing and my degree I would make $99,778 in my first year as a police officer. (Don't know if that's exactly how all those bonuses work mind you)
Now of course that settles back next year without those initial bonuses but not many jobs can give you that income right out the gate.

>>409519
ull probably be making north of 125K in a few years too.

cop get a great salary and benefits.

just dont be a fuckin snitch n ull be taken care of

working as a disgusting filthy worthless useless cunt whore

Picking up roadkill for the city.You get to keep what you pick up and have it for dinner. Not kidding, I've seen people do it. My neighbor worked for the city and was responsible for cleaning roads, including road kill. At $40K, it wasn't bad pay for a drop out alcoholic.

being a cop would be the gayest job on earth

owned

>>389514
Life coaching is a joke. Don't believe anyone that says it's a real job/career.

It's just that professional that deluded women enter into, and then fail a few months after when they realize they don't understand economics or business models.

There is no loophole to avoiding medical training for psychiatry, or the general rules of practice associated with it.

>>409529
Department I was just quoting tops out at about 110k a year (Including those bonuses) unless you really move up the chain and such to lieutenant and chief but of course that is possible with time. And yes you get great benefits such as retirement, healthcare, hell they even pay for your uniform.

>>409538
there's IDs on this board dipshit.

>>409519

When I lived in Bakersfield, pretty much all of the local cops lived the high life. California cops have it made.

>>406386
Petroleum engineering is probably one of the top ten paying jobs today. Be ready to travel though, if you want to get the really big paychecks.

>>410005
I work on an offshore oil platform and for me it is almost a too good to be true job. I'm off two weeks straight per month, every month, and make over 120k per year. Not only do I make good money but because my expenses are paid for while out on the rig it is like I make even more.

>>410081
What do you do and how'd you get the job?