/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>3418578
because I want it to go up. That's why its going up.
Anything I desire will happen.

>>3418578
>Does it have actual use? Why wouldn't people just use ETH?

I think you trolling, but here:
1). DPOS governance means no money skeleton overlord deciding things at his whim
2) Functioning Smart Bridge
3) Planned IPFS implementation
4) Security-minded developers
5) smart contracts that are language agnostic
6 biz classic delegate

Ark is /our guy/

>>3418593
this desu

whales are using it as a hedge against all this china FUD. it's very much a non-China coin.

>>3418578
people are holding, because they are staking.

Also if the bridging technology is successfully executed and they acquire at least 10 partners that are at least the top 25 marketcap crypto blockchains, it will shoot to $100.

And the best part about this, that no one is ever mentioning, is its tax implications:
If they are connecting blockchains as a bridge, then you could TECHNICALLY claim a 1031 like-kind exchange and never pay tax on a trade between ARK to ETH back to ARK to BTC. Theyre technically connected to the same blockchain at that point. But this is only speculative at this point, and hopefully some US tax fag can help confirm.

This is why I am about to go all in on this fucker very soon.

>>3418612
No time like the present. Even market wide dips don't affect ARK much

Just look at biz_classic. It shows just how much potential this community and project has.

>>3418612
My tax scenario, is of course hypothetical if and only if ETH and BTC bridge to ARK blockchain.

>>3418639
biz_classic is beautiful.

>>3418629
I already own 6k ARK, but sitting on $8k reserves for dips, but this fucker is just going up and up, hence why im just going to buy and sit on it.

Board the Ark, sinners. Time is running out.

>>3418639
>>3418593
>>3418643
biz_classic is a scam delegate though

i had 500 ARK and voted for biz then when we switched i started voting for biz_classic. Never even received a sliver of an ark back. now i just leave my ARK on bittrex i truly dont give a fuck anymore and im in 10k on it. Lets just moon so i can pay off my house, only have 27k left.

>>3418691
that pic just makes me like biz_classic more, bro

>>3418691
Stop crying, you deserved your ban

>>3418699
The biz delegates have all been scammers. jarunik, dr10, and sharkpool are WAY more reliable. They arent run by underage spergs like biz_classic is.

>>3418699
if you're sitting on 10k, you'll be able to pay 27k at least 5-6x over.

>>3418708
moon man and uncle chang are international treasures to the crypto community

>>3418650
you planning to get 10k?

So I just found out Ark has an app for Ledger now. Is biz_classic allowing people to switch to it without losing out on anything?

>>3418722
thats my plan.

but with its current price and my total stack, i won't make 10k

>>3418612

No the best part is that they don't need to have partnerships. With encoded listeners, if you don't want to partner, anyone can run an encoded listener and collect large volume transactional fees. Fuck if I could code, I'd start building those now, and just offer super-low fees. The community Dev that is building ACES probably jumped on the best coin to get an EL up for. He's going to be set for a while.

The only issues that would cut into your costs is if that particular coin forked to incorporate Smartbridge, and the only competition is if someone offers lower fees on your product.

>>3418691
Fuck off heem

>>3418755
Yes. I'll swap your new ledger address into your account.

Uncle Chang you da man. I signed up for daily payouts yesterday when should I expect my first one

>>3418691
Literally actually unironically kill yourself in real life

>>3419288
If you voted before midnight, September 10th and chose daily, your first payment will be tonight at September 11th midnight.

What I dont get about Ark is that I barely see it mentioned outside of /biz/. Yet I made mad gainz after buying in at 50 cents. Are normies (not) seeing something we dont?

>>3418578
it's literally unstoppable
a lot of it is put away in wallets because it pays to do so

>>3419317
it's got a big following on leddit too

>>3419317
normie adoption will commence once it hits 10$

You literally have the chance to buy the rumor and sell the news with ark

Complete idiot here, is ARK just a meme or is it actually good?
i want some ez money, and i still can't decide weather to invest or not

>>3419317
We're seeing something the normies don't.
Our meme magic allows us to see into the future, to clearly see the massive gains that normies can only dream of.

If I have 500 ARK, is biz classic the best option for me?

>>3419341
a complete meme
moneymaking meme

For whatever reason, I just have a gut instinct about this coin. I just know this is only the beginning.

>>3419353
Here's a calculator that will tell you which delegate is best for what amount

http://calculator.reconnico.com/

>>3419364
So we're jewing normies into making it big and we get rich because we bought it before it "explodes"
huh, may look into this...

>>3419384
says literally 0 profit for all payouts on biz_classic

>>3419401
This, WTF

>>3419401
biz_classic is the only delegate that has fucked over its own voters, so it's not included. All the delegates that are shown have 100% trust track record.

>>3419384
>he's so autistic he links the only calculator that doesn't list biz_classic's tax bracket system in an attempt to FUD

>>3419353
You will get paid 100% by biz_classic. You can check for yourself on https://classicdelegate.biz/calculator or any other calculator that isn't reconnico's

>>3419353
yeah, you get 100% if you're below-average
refer to https://classicdelegate.biz/calculator
>>3419394
if the developerfags delivar on 50% of wat they've put on their plate this will be one of the top coins out there

>>3419410
that was biz, not biz_classic
fagnet couldn't into computers and fucked up, that's why his ass got coup'd

>>3419421
biz_classic held back a voter's payout cause he was mean to him in a chatroom. No other delegate does little kid shit like that.

>>3419410
You're the only person that has ever gotten banned and blacklisted for harrassing and spamming people. You were told you were banned but kept voting for them anyways. Of course they wouldn't pay you after banning you.

>>3419333
This is a clever part about it.
The coin is designed to encourage hodling.

>>3419434
The point is biz_classic doesnt pay 100% of it's voters. All the other delegates do. That's why biz_classic isnt on that calculator.

>>3419433
nope, he dealt with the wallet splitting faggot trying to game the system after said faggot got blacklisted
you know why the faggot voted vor biz_classic again? because it's the best delegate out there for non-whales
stay salty

>>3419401
>>3419405
does not work with biz delegate use https://classicdelegate.biz/calculator

I'm grandfathered with about 3k ARK. Will I receive the best possible payout?

>>3419446
Wrong. All delegates have blacklists. Moon posted screenshots of the delegate slack where everyone shares blacklisted addresses with each other.

You got what you deserved. Maybe stop treating people like crap if you don't want to get banned

>>3419449
Wait so there were two people blacklisted from biz_classic? Thats even worse.

>>3419315

Do you ever get tired of answering questions about payouts?

with ark you literally never hold bags if you hold for 2-3 weeks no matter how high you buy

i literally bought 1000 ark in steps for months and am not holding one single bag

Do not reply to heem posts.
Report heem posts.

>>3419453
You'll always get a 90%+ cut which is as good or better than every other delegate.

>>3419458
>Moon posted screenshots of the delegate slack where everyone shares blacklisted addresses with each other.
Wow thats super shady. And you think this is supposed to boost the trustworthiness of biz_classic?

>>3419411
>You will get paid 100%
lol

>>3419461
they are free to vote whomever they wish, that's the beauty of DPoS
there are several faggots who got blacklisted, see >>3419458 it's common practice

>>3419481
It's not shady at all.

Every single delegate in the top 51 shares blacklists with each other. Even Jarunik, dr10, and sharkpoo. It's how they ban pool hoppers and other unsavory types.

>>3419461
just KYS, seriously

>>3419491
Good thing it's easy as fuck to make a new wallet address.

>>3419486
>If I have 500 ARK
>If I have 500 ARK
>If I have 500 ARK
>If I have 500 ARK

>>3419507
the ledger holds no secrets
faggot discovery can be automated
faggots have no chance

>>3419464
Nah, it's fine. We were all noobs once.

>>3419491
This is true. The delegates in the delegates-only slack channel on ArkEcosystem all share blacklists with each other.

>>3419278
Great. I'm APaY5zQ6CMvgcC7FC346ctUrj7SpDB3dh5 and will be moving to AdfVvX1tFM7F42moUZztiH2XTyjSnQqba3. Should I just go ahead and move the money and vote with the new address right now?

>>3419587
Yup go ahead.

>>3419558
If that was true I wouldnt be getting daily payouts from biz_classic

>>3419486
The other calculator is garbage and gives incorrect numbers. For instance it says that your weight would be .35% but if you ran the numbers yourself you would see that with 4k ark your weight would in fact only be .22% so your payout would be ~37% less than what its saying at ~.77 ark.

>>3419598
How come you don't love your mom?

>>3419598
Done. Thanks, buddy.

>>3419602
Heem do you realize how retarded you seem to everyone when you tell people not to vote biz_classic and then say you vote biz_classic yourself?

>>3419602
I dont think they care enough about your poverty payouts desu

>>3419626
It's called 4D chess. A brainlet like you wouldnt get it.

biz_classic is top 51 and is gonna stay top 51 regardless of what gets posted here. Whats better for me is if people stay the fuck out so we dont get diluted.

My reputation doesnt matter as no one is asking me to trust them with money.

>>3419626
autism knows no reason
lack of human contact makes people fixated on certain non-issues to the level of mania
it's entertaining and a bit cringey at the same time

>>3419587
Looks like youre already voting for reconnico, bud.

Careful, dont wanna get blacklisted.

>>3419677
I don't know what you're trying to do, but that address literally had no transactions before just now.

https://explorer.ark.io/address/AdfVvX1tFM7F42moUZztiH2XTyjSnQqba3

>>3419697
How did you do that?

>>3419414
>https://classicdelegate.biz/calculator

Alright, I'm going to vote... you fags best not be lying.

>>3419640
No, you just think you're playing 4D chess. Your bullshit scenario that you're just doing this to stop pool dilution is obviously false otherwise you'd keep your mouth shut about still voting for the delegate as that wipes away any attempt to convince others not to vote for it. Or you just have 0 impulse control, your pick, either's bad.

So when will this shitcoin bump back to >74k sat so I can sell it?

So after I buy some coins, do I just sit and wait untill I get rich or do I have to do something else?

$3.00, we meet again

>>3419992
just wait :D

>>3419841
>Your bullshit scenario that you're just doing this to stop pool dilution
Is that what I said, dummy? Maybe I also do it because a nerd slighted me and I'm gonna hold a grudge and make sure he pays for it tenfold.

Tried different calculators... Quarkpool comes out as the highest pay-out for my amount. Any experiences with this delegate?

>>3419992
Gotta send them to your wallet and vote for biz_classic

>>3420005
Those 2 19k sell walls though.

>>3420088
Also anyone else think this will be going to other exchanges soon?

>>3419928
I only see a future ass pattern there

>>3420067
You deserved to be treated worse than just getting banned from a delegate. Literal subhuman.

>>3420098
unlikely. the big ones, kraken, coinbase, poloniex etc don't list coins anymore until they are top 10+ for a while. binance may add it next month if enoguh people vote for it

>>3419809
register at the site if you want to adjust your payment schedule, the process is all laid out there

>>3420067
You're just driving more people to Ark when they see what kind of people are kept out :^)
Make sure he pays for it, indeed

>>3421420
can confirm that I bought 1 BTC of ARK yesterday due to this

>>3419451
>https://classicdelegate.biz/calculator
are you allowed to vote for two delegates?

if not, then quark pool is offering more per day than biz_classic... up to 2.8/week more for me. Holding 6250

>>3420005
>>3420088

This is far from over

>>3420005
are people really like this? why?

whats the point of the hat? the long trench coat...that fucking sword? All-the-time. Ever-single-time. What kind of anime bullshit fantasy IS this?

>that $40k buy

ARK is comfy as fuck right now, hope it weathers the BTC crash ok but even if it doesn't we can buy the dip.

How do I become an Arkie?

>>3421687

What's your daily average?

>>3423564

which exchange?

>Sold out at $3 (54k sats at the time)
>Waited for the dip to buy back in
>Still wait...
>...
>...
>...
>STILL WON'T GO DOWN

STOP STOP STOP AHHH I WANT TO GET BACK ON HURRY UP AND CRASH

at the current rate, im earning about $1.50 a day from staking....feel like such a baller.

somebody bought 6 btc worth of Ark few minutes back....alright then.

>>3424935
buy bitcoin on coinbase > convert to ark on bittrex

>>3424986
how much u holding senpai?

I'm stoked for my weekly 4 Ark payout tomorrow

easy mode
>buy btc on coinbase
>send btc to bittrex
>use ark to buy btc
>download wallet
>send ark to wallet
>use 1 ark to vote for delegate
>!!!!!!
>PROFIT

>>3425018
should say use btc to buy ark my b future arkie

>>3425016

im staking about 2k, i have another 2k on bittrex to daytrade

Ark just broke another wall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AUGpmcp9rk

>>3424982
Isn't aces to be released soon iirc they said it was working. Once that happens there might be a pump and 70k might seem cheap

Huge buys om bittrex right now

lol people actually think ark is gonna moon

>>3425078
Lol we're breaking $5 when ACES drops

>>3425137
ACES is broken vaporware designed by stuttering potheads

>>3425137
>when ACES drops
no when ACES drops ARK will drop with it

you wanna know why?

because ARK is gay

>>3425148
>>3425158
You are both so fucking mad right now

KEEP SPREADING FUD

>>3425165
nice i got 20k around that same price
smart anon bought the dip

>>3425207
I thought I was catching a falling knife for a while but I was really catching a baby lambo on a pillow

I don't even want to buy again because it'll raise my average buy price ($.50)

Well I finially fomo'd and bought the ATH.
I've officially gone from 3500 ARK to 1100 in the past couple weeks.
Let's see if I'm dumb enough to sell low again.

I fucking hate myself.

>>3425285
>baby lambo on a pillow
true ark feels

>>3425307
Same here man. Feels bad.

>>3425307
Never sell Ark, just buy.

>>3425307

I don't understand why anyone would sell Ark.

Day trading just doesnt work. HODL is a meme for a reason.

Ark is one of the greatest coins to hodl with a great staking system/community.

DOn't even think about selling Ark until it reaches at least $10.

>>3425307
I thought I could day trade for the pump from 1.70 to 3 but it ended up staying at 2.40. Originally had 4090, that 90 being from biz_classic. Lost the 90 but thankfully jumped back on the rocket before I lost that 4k.

>>3425350
>>3425380
It's hard.
I can't afford to dump new money into crypto every month.
Flipping coins seems like the only option.
I'm considering hopping on the chainlink ico to see if I can 3x my crypto and get back into ARK where I was.
I know it's retarded but I need to at least try to get my ARK back.

>>3425412
Good luck friend. I say just hodl because I've gained more just hodling than trying to daytrade but I can't stop you.

Wow, the FOMO is real.

See you at 50 arkies

ark will not win
ark WILL fail

>it isnt even affected by btc price
what is going on this is bullshit

>>3425760
Apparently the whales stopped suppressing the price and this is what it's been trying to do all along, or so they say.

Ark is for lovers. The more they FUD, the higher it goes.

ark is #22!!!

>>3418578
Ark will go up for a while, then dip a bit which will make weak bitches sell and crash the price back down, then rocket into the stratosphere.

Have the chinks finally found out about Ark? Because most of the west should be asleep by now.

>>3426145
Its 3.41pm here in dingo land - I just threw everything in ARK

There truly are no brakes on this train.

>>3426270
This shit is wild. Makes the bitcoin dip seem like some far off dream.

>>3426332
We are protected from the bitcoin dip inside the ark.

>>3418578
I just got 17 Ark for having my stack sit in my wallet after a week. Why aren't people getting in on this? i'm tripling my investment

I see so much FUD against ARK on biz it makes me curious...

I didn't come around here when ETH was still in it's infancy, so I'm wondering how bad the fud was against ETH a year or so ago as compared to ARK today?

>>3426514
its overvalued

>>3426547
yup.

Ark. Will. Fail.

>>3426547
nice id

>>3426332
crazy right - I saw the drop and traded everything I had on Bittrex for ARK

is it too late for me to put all my neetbux into this? fucking bank transfers take absurdly long

>>3426565
thats like going all in on adx at 44k, unless you wanna hold for a fucking month set a stop loss

I'm actually wasting my time giving you meaningful advice so you better fucking give this fucking comment as much time as it took me to write it.

That's it, I officially missed the rocket. I've been wanting to buy since it was worth $1.3 but being a third worlder, even wealthier than others, means no trading platform would accept my USD for BTC/LTC.
I should have accepted LocalBitcoins' fees but it's now too late. Feels bad man.

>>3426605
heeded

>>3426614
>bought 19 with transfer scraps that i couldn't buy a full ANS with as a meme
>they're now worth close to 60$
feels good

I dont understand this shit. Voting? Taxation? Representatives? Is Ark a Nation?

>>3426649
indeed. we are a proud people. and we are weary of newbie outsiders.

>>3426204

The first biz_classic vote is live. If you're part of biz_classic, the future of the payout system is in your hands.

Anyone who joined before the 100% promotion ended is eligible to vote (splitters joined after).

Vote ends Thursday at 12:00 AM EST. Countdown will be live momentarily, but vote is LIVE NOW.

https://medium.com/@biz_classic/voting-period-for-upcoming-changes-25ace99890ac

https://classicdelegate.biz/proposals

>>3426711
2 is better, otherwise you will slip out of the 51 or you lose motivation because too many are a 100%

>>3426649
Ecosystem

If you hodl 1k ark there will only be 100,000 other people with the same, not including devs. Thats pretty cool.

Go for a holiday, come back after a week, ARK still climbing.
Nice.

This coin was funded to high heaven on here by some whale in the biz classic slack

Go lurk there and he keeps posting his new pastas and songs about Arkies

Conclusion:
Then it is still worth the buy! Carry on buying.....
I have 75 and will buy more....