/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>328750
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.0

DRK 4 lyfe

We already missed the boat. What about Zerocoin? when are they releasing this shit

>>328844
Zerocoin is just an extension to bitcoin.

>>328844
Darksend isn't even final yet, you haven't missed much.

It's still in development with the next version of the release candidate going into the Beta wallet around this friday give or take a day.

Basically what it does is provide unlinkable transactions, so you don't see a transfer of shekels directly from one wallet to another.

Would provide privacy to people, currently if your business uses Bitcoin a competitor can find out what wallet address(es) you use, and trace the transfer of bitshekels to see where they are being spent (business partners?).

>>328853
The Bitcoin system is substantially less privacy than a bank would offer, the Darksend system is more.

On one hand you have "everyone should see the transactions" and the other "no one should see the transactions".

Governments tend to have problems with the latter, unless they can fuck it over all they want, which they can't.

It's like digital cash now, instead of a less private digital bank account.

???money train???

>>328856
>pay for things in cash
>government says shop owners should report people paying in cash for terrorism

It is pretty crazy sometimes, so who knows what will happen with Darkcoin. Will we have this freedom?

What does /biz/ think?

>>328845
No, they are making their own altcoin.

>>328862
Indeed. Nevermind me then.

>>328750
should I buy some? what's the forecast?

I bought Blackcoin at 47K and now it's 27K.
I feel like killing myself. Im pretty sure I will crash Darkcoin if I buy a couple.

>>328865
Yes, you probably would.

At least wait until tomorrow to see what the price does.

If it's like the stock market (it usually isn't) once the next beta of darksend comes out it would dip immediately defying all logic proving the hype was more than the value.

I have no idea what will happen, but I'm holding long-term until Darksend is in the official wallet at least.

If you are feeling greedy buy $10 worth and see where it goes. Not much to lose.

I have the feeling the whole altmarket is gonna crash at some point, and only bitcoin will survive making it a monopoly or something

>>328869
You're wrong then, Bitcoin is already slow and outdated.

"BITCOIN" IS KRONUS; EVENTUALLY, ONE "ALTCOIN" WILL RISE FROM OBSCURITY, AND OVERTHROW "BITCOIN" AS THE "STEM CURRENCY"; THAT "ALTCOIN" MAY EVEN EXIST NOW.

>>328876
mmkay

Is darkcoin directly accepted in illegal market places?

>>328886
Donnow, go search for yourself?
Pleabian.

>>328750

Here's some copypasta from earlier. Looks like the price will go much higher with no clear top yet.

"Darksend is a transaction id shuffling mechanism that works by an electoral system of masternodes. If the anybody wanted to track a Darksend, they would likely have to track down hundreds of hidden master nodes just to find that one transaction. This is the first ever totally anonymous cryptocoin transaction.

>he bought 2100DRK @0.000175
>35x gain"

>>328876
Lel ry is a coinfag.

>>329601
>>329601
>This is the first ever totally anonymous cryptocoin transaction.
Cryptonote and Bytecoin have been around for 2 years. Get BTFO Darkcoiners

>>329685
>Bytecoin

So you cannot even possibly analyze the blockchain at all? Sounds like a useless feature that would take away all accountability. Darkcoin doesn't force you to use Darksend every time.

>>329685
Bytecoin is shit for a reason, the crypto is untested, the software is shit, you can't even see which wallet has how much money.

It's using a black box with rules enforced by shoddy software trying to enforce the rules of some math.

It also has a 2 year premine, it existed on the darknet for 2 years before anyone noticed it.

>>328867
Price is down to $2.61 now around midnight.

I caved and now I have 30 of these things. Let me know when it's the next bitcoin.

>>329955
It will probably be the next Litecoin.
retarded niggercoin shills BTFO'd!

>>328862
links? cant find relevant info... thanks...

only made about $260 because I bought in at .0033DRK/BTC then sold at .0042DRK/BTC. I'm pretty happy though, I'll buy in again soon and wait for friday

>>329953
>2 years old
>untested
>software is shit but minergate is a piece of work

>>330214
haha!

Doge fags are so pissed Darkcoin is skyrocketing and getting ring signatures they are DDOSing the website right now.

You know it's going good when those fags hate it.

>>328750
Darkcoin down 10% today. Let the major damage control begin.

Fluttercoin is going to have the next big price rise.

>>330810

I CONCUR.

>>330214
It's trading at 0.0061 DRK/BTC now.

To the MOON!

>>330796
It's sitting at $2.68, you are foolish to not expect this volatility in a crypto.

>>332434
Almost as foolish as investing in it.

>>332508
Oh look now it's $2.77

I didn't say you should invest in it, that's for me to have done when it was $0.86 like I did.

>>332634
Yay for you! I bet $100 on blackjack one time and won. Yay for me too!

>>332646
There is a difference here, I'm not a fucking moron and I realized long ago the privacy offered by Darkcoin is actually useful. Bitcoin derives it's value from it's usefulness as a currency.

There are many imitations and other small innovations like energy efficiency and faster transactions, but those aren't useful enough to gain significant adoption, and switching will cost them money.

Now a person can have more privacy than with a bank account, compared to less with Bitcoin.
Using Bitcoin a competitor can easily see where their coins are transferred to, potentially a business partner or similar, this is less privacy than a bank. With a bank you, the bank, and your lord god Government can see where you are spending your shekels. With Darkcoin's Darksend (or the next iteration which will use CryptoNote) the Jewish banks and middlemen and government is omitted from the process. Essentially like digital cash.

Now compared to your analysis:
>hurr durr balckjack faygit

You are a fucking retard, go huff some paint or something.

>>332432
yes friend, indeed. I bought back in at .0055 so I've already made some more if I sell. waiting till the hype on Friday though

>>332660
>this
The major reason to even use cryptocurrency is for anonymity and lack of central oversight and control.

>>332688
What hype on Friday, do you refer to Amsterdam?

>>332864
the post is literally in this thread

is this bubble bursting?????? .012 BTC/drk

>>328865
bought BC at 80k, feel like killing myself[2]

>>334799
Kek, its not so bad, I bought ISR.

Price is sitting at just over $4.50. Why aren't you getting in on the next bitcoin? The forums now have mandarin FUD-posters, so we must be making progress if the Chinese are starting to notice.

>>332699
>major reason to even use cryptocurrency is for anonymity and lack of central oversight and control.

But you don't tell the goyim that, just gloss over it.

>>335011
China will switch to an anonymous crypto because their government wants to ban Bitcoin.

So yeah China might mean big bucks for DRK.

>>335017
Anything under $100 is a solid buy at the moment. With everything going for it, I can't see darkcoin crashing any time soon. DRK will hit a $1 billion marketcap within the next six months to a year. Do you really want to be one of the shitposters here complaining that they should've gotten into darkcoin while it was under $5? I wish I would have bought some bitcoins while they were still under $10.

So if darkcoin does what people expected bitcoin to do all along, why would anybody want to own any other coin?

>>335051
>speculation
>solid buy

We'll see when the next release comes out either today or tomorrow if it's worth the current price.

>Friend telling me to invest into vertcoin
>Compare vertcoin to darkcoin
>Buy darkcoin

mfw

Thinking of selling ~12k now waiting for the dip and re investing.

>>335051
Is 200 $ a reasonable prediction for Darkcoin?

>>335199
300 $ at least

>>335199
Don't listen to that guy. He has no idea wtf hes talking about. Seriously.

>>335199
I was thinking more around 1350

>also putting dollar signs after numbers

>>335264
>>335270
>300
>1350
lel. These threads are funny.

I've been trying to sell some useless stuff around my house to buy darkcoin in the last days but I have failed so far. I will miss this train yet again. I was planning to buy at $2.5

I can honestly see darkcoin becoming what old btc used to be back in the day, a safe heaven for illegal stuff and money laundering and away from all the delusional shit about becoming a billionaire from it, replacing real currencies, end the fed and all other delusional stuff that makes so many people see cryptos as a joke. Darkcoin is in my eyes cryptos taken back to basics and what they should really be.

>>328750
I'm making back the shekels I lost on PND and GRC.

>>335284
>>335266
>>332508
>>330796

Thank god there are IDs.

Everybody needs to relax. What's happening here is not that the price is rising, it's actually falling towards it's natural price point which is of the Litecoin variety. (More than that once the technology's established and out of beta).

Instead of a rocket to the moon, think of a marble rolling down a chute. The old price of 0.00015 is at the top of the chute and now it has been released and allowed to roll towards its natural valuation which lies at the bottom of the chute.

From this simple analogy, and given that marbles don't roll uphills, we can see it's not going back to the old price.

>>335289
How are you missing the train at 2.5$? You are still a pioneer.
Buy at least 10, throw it in some money just in case logic meets reality (DRK is more valuable than useless LTC, which is were it is thanks to "being the second crypto ever after LTC", literally).

>>335289
>mfw still holding at $6.03

>>335398
this face

>>335423
>mfw now it's fucking $6.26

>>328750

How do I get into the Darkcoin train?

>>335474
lol

I bought $25 worth at $0.86

I'm at like $180 profit right now. Shitcoin shills keep fucking hating it to.

So... Look for a good opportunity to buy?
Next release is tomorrow, might dip after it's come out....

>>335474
>buying into a pump
once it crashes a bit, its safe to buy

>>335494
>$7.23/coin

Even though I like the rise, it could easily dip before it's more popular.

>>335392
>From this simple analogy
>marbles

Yeah, because crypto prices behave like rolling marbles, ever. Fuck off. ASIC engineers are going to have a heckof a time trying to figure out X11 chips.

>>335498
yes
that why you should sell now
and buy back in later

>>335503
can't do that, holding long term

would need to buy more to play with

>>335484
Why... do... you... need... all... those... ellipses...?

>>335510
>need

Freedom.

>>335509
you should sell atleast 20% incase it crashes

i losed the train?

>>335595
No. Buy now and laugh once dark reaches $1 billion marketcap.

>>335375
>implying I am samefagging and not just replying to some stupid ass posts
you dumbass

>>335624
nope
5Dollars atm TOPLEL

>>335686
>Didn't see that coming!
lel

>>329953
All of this shit seems like butthurt to me. Bytecoin is the FIRST anonymous crypto, not DRK.
There is no PRE mine in Bytecoin. PRE mine = mining before release. It was released then mined, it's not our problem it didn't got noticed.

>>336506
>Bytecoin is the FIRST anonymous crypto
Doesn't mean jack shit if hardly anyone knows about it. I hadn't heard about it until I already owned some darkcoins.

>There is no PRE mine in Bytecoin
There might as well be. Between the devs and their buddies, they managed to mine 80% of bytecoin. It's like Quark all over again.

If you want your crypto to reach mass adoption levels, you have to actually post about it on the public internet and not just fuck around on the darkweb. I looked up bytecoin and found fucking three of them (BCN, BTE, and BYC). No one is going to use this shit just because it was first. If anything, more people will use darkcoin because more people actually know about it and realize the technology has so much potential.

That's why darkcoin is valued at what it is currently, and that's also why bytecoin won't change a damn thing - no one has heard of it, and the devs and their pals own 80% of it. No-fucking-thank you.

WHY IS THE SYMBOL FOR "BYTECOIN" "BTE" IN ALL EXCHANGES, BUT "BCN" IN THE OFFICIAL SITE?

>>336552
Because bytecoin is a clusterfuck. Learned my lesson not to buy into huge premines because most often they're shit.

>>336555

I LIKE "BYTECOIN". IT SEEMS LIKE A POTENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR THE ZEUS OF "ALTCOINS" –"BITCOIN" IS KRONUS.

>>336533
You are forgeting 50% of Darkcoin was mined in 24 hours. 80% of Bytecoin's mining was done over 2 years.

Now ask yourself, who the fuck is going to use this? Exactly, people that want to move cash without being detected worldwide. Most normal people dont need this. Whoever uses this is worried about privacy big time, so they are going to use whatever delivers the safest, strongest anonimity. Is it Bytecoin? Is it Darkcoin? Is it Zerocash or Zerocoin or whatever the fuck that is? I have no idea because im not a cryptonerd but an speculator, and ironically this time it's all about how good the coin is at doing it's thing instead of how much hype or advertisment the product has. The big millions are going to be moved by big tax evaders and big drug dealers. These are the people that will make early adopters millonaires in a year, not your sister using Darkcoin to buy makeup online. If you look at the big picture, no one gives a fuck about cryptocurrencies because they aren't viable currencies, the only legitimate uses that aren't speculation by itself are by very specific people. Now it's a matter of guessing out what is the coin that is going to have the best developer and best technology to allow for literally internet worldwide cash, the ultimate dream for the black market and anyone that wants to move cash anywhere secretly (basically breaking the law). BTC will act as the mainstream regulated coin that you exchange this hypothetical anonymous coin for to cash out for fiat. Whoever gets in the right coin is going to have a very nice early retirement.

>>336877
I've read a post by one of the developers explaining it as an accident, and everyone else being naive they went with it. All of those coins were traded or given away he said. Take it for what you want.

I'm still wary but I think enough people are onboard with darkcoin that the price will continue to rise at a steady pace for a while. I'm not sure what to make of the over $5 million in volume. That's the first time I've ever seen any alt rival bitcoin in 24 hour volume.

>>336552
BCN is the Cryptonote bytecoin, BTE is the old straight fork of bitcoin.

>>336916
>All of those coins were traded or given away he said.
Naw they weren't. He suggested doing an airdrop and distributing the 2 min but it never happened. One wallet still has 450k DRK. That alone is enough to crash the market.

>>336976
>2 min
>2 mill

should I buy Darkcoin, what's the projections on this? The developers look like a couple of goofballs, I don't even think that darksend thing is gonna work out

>>336981
The only thing that will save it in the long run is Cryptonote ring signatures but I don't know if you can fork like that. Besides, the bubble's over.

>>336981
> released without windows QT so that only dev and pals could mine it.

> Instamined harder than any other coin out there 12.5% of the current minting was mined in the first day

> Later they decided to cut the minting by 75% to turn their 12.5% instamine with no windows QT into 50% instamine in 24hours

Anyone who buys or bought after the first 24 hours is a bagholder. Whatever usefulness it had as a crypto is negated by the fact that 10 wallets hold about 50% of DRK.

>>336992

The DRK shills swear it's not a pump and dump though

>>336981
>>337003

We all know DRk was fast mined and they lied about it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4585001#msg4585001

It's public knowledge and the evidence anyone can download and inspect in the blockchain or reviewed here:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#darkcoin

The reason everyone is so excited and the price is increasing has to be on the success of Darksend which had overwhelming results at the end of the testing.

http://darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkSendv3.pdf

>>336976
The community said no. Why wouldn't early investors/miners be rewarded money? Deal with it.

>Whatever usefulness it had as a crypto is negated by the fact that 10 wallets hold about 50% of DRK.

Wait you are implying Bitcoin is any different.

http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100

Check the last transactions. Just lol.

>>337082
Deal with 10 wallets having 50% of the total coins? No thank you.

>>337090
100 wallets having 20% of the coins after 5 years is a lot different than 10 wallets having 50% of the coin after 24 hours.

>>337075
http://worldcoinindex.com/coin/Darkcoin

will it pop and then rise again like Bitcoin, what do you guys think?

>>337110
Are you even reading anything in this thread?

>>328750
>buying at the peak
here's how DRK will look a month from now

>>337110
Black and dark will be dead within a few months. Scamcoins a scamcoin no matter how they shine the turd.

>>337117
Libertycoin, and Nautilus are popping now.

Curecoin looks good and is primed to pop, it's only a few days old.

>>336916
Coingecko bro

Market cap doesnt mean shit if its just whales doing a pump and dump

Darkcoins way up

>>337134
What price could that reach?
Im scared to be on coins, because most coins get pumped then die. If you are not 24h's on the computer literally you can miss the pump.

>>337127
Darkcoin isn't your typical scamcoin though.

The 5% premine is plausibly deniable, ask the devs what happened.


This isn't a scamcoin because the devs are actually making something new here.

>>336992
It's more like 5%.

I bought 63 weeks ago and have been ignoring crypto, seeing this thread makes me happy.

>>328750
So, guys, seriously, where do you go to buy Darkcoins. Not Moolah. Their website is shit and doesn't work for me (made me miss the last 150% run)..

>>337984
cryptsy.com

Bought over one million bytecoins with my darkcoin profits.

Never seen anything like bytecoin before. The wallet opens up in a fucking command-line window.

>>337986
Fuck cryptsy, they fucked my balance and my ticket has been open for 6 weeks now.

Mintpal is the best exchange.

>>337990
lol 80's style

>>337990
>>337995
are you guys 12 or just computer iliterate?
>muh guis

>>337990
Why? you reckon it can go up? everyone here says it's shit...

What about getting again in Darkcoin? is the dip done or are we crashing?

>>338123
Bytecoin can easily go up with decent software.
I should probably buy more.

And Darkcoin is still going down for now, I expect it will rise again with the next release.

god damnit

i'm missing buying the DRK dip because it takes bitcoin 5 minutes to send money

>>338126
but why is it special? tell me, why would you put money on bytecoin and not on one of the recent forks, with more fair block reward? What is this 80% mined by some tor community? why did want to remain anonymous?
The main technology is cryptonote anyway, not developed by bytecoin devs. Are bytecoin devs specially talented at anything, or are they just average joes taking advantage of cryptonote and being >muh first cryptonote coin?

What is more effective and being anonymous, bytecoins, the forks, darkcoin, anoncoin, zerocoin or zerocash??

and where did you buy bytecoin? markets are fucking dead. Also why so many coins? It makes it look cheap, like dogecoin. Fuck its 184billion coins. It will never reach 1 dollar.

>>338139
A brazilian copied it and called it BitMonero, fuck him and his shitcoin.

https://cryptonote.exchange.to/ is listed on the bytecoin.org website

.to I think means it's a bridged website actually hosted on the darknet

bought 59,000 BCN there yesterday

>>338143
But the main reason I hate Bitmonero and the Bytecoin clones is that they didn't even do anything better.

I spoke to the Bitmonero dev and he wouldn't wait to build a GUI wallet before releasing it. He literally changed a few variables and released it as-is, fuck that guy.

If his dev team shows some actual merit on improving Bytecoin I will buy some, but until then the original BCN dev team is the way to go.

>>338137

I can't even sync my wallet brah. Glad I didn't buy anything. It's been like this for a few days and I've tried all the fixes online, there are obviously many more people with this problem. Meanwhile, every other wallet opens fine.

Guess it's a no-go on Darkcoin for me I don't have time for this shit. The wallet is literally broken for a percentage of users either by design or due to poor implementation, either is unacceptable especially when a coin has had this much momentum.

Having issues with exchanges is one thing but when the coin itself is a piece of shit, we've got issues.

Fuck Darksend. I'm looking forward to riding it's better alternative soon. The technology is sound but it was fucking premined, people. All arguments about the pump-and-dump are irrelevant, it is in fact a fucking pump and dump coin utilizing a technological hook for anonymity that others saw valuable to get where it is. Someone else is going to do it legit though, and Dark will be remembered for what it was.

>>338123
With the current price, the market cap is currently over $1 million. Holding out hope for 1 cent per byte, but if it goes up significantly I'll probably just cash out and take the bitcoins anyway. Also holding curecoin because why the hell not.

The way I see it, the earlier you get in, the more likely you are to make a profit.

You can buy bytecoin here: https://cryptonote.exchange.to/ Withdrawals take for-fucking-ever though.

>>338146
did you not use the new version of the wallet before the hard-fork date?

...I have no idea why it wouldn't work on your system.

I bet they statically linked the boost and QT libs into the code, (if he used QT).

>>338149
(which means the DLLs you need should be in the .exe)

What OS are you running?

>>338146
Seconded.

Libertycoin (XLB) is a PoS coin ready to take off. From what I can gather it's the next NXT coin.

Take a look and if you don't like it tell me why.

>>338156
what does it offer that is useful?

8 second confirmations?
privacy?

>>338156
Looks like it's from the same devs as cinni.

>>337966
Total lie. Its fine though anyone that does their research can see that 2 mill coins is not 5% and that you are full of shit.

>>338166
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins

It's 5%, search for the Darkcoin part.
Also, you need to pull your head out of your ass because you weren't interested until it was already $5/coin.

>>338184
Cut the shit. That calculation is based before they arbitrarily cut the minting.

>1,600,000 coins mined in 8 hours
>2,000,000 coins mined in 24 hours
>4,293,995 total coins mined as of right now

You don't think thats some total bullshit that almost half of the coins that are in existance were mined in 24 hours? Because I think thats some bullshit. I also think you are a bagholder which is why you keep on lying like a bitch.

>>338184
>because you weren't interested until it was already $5/coin
Wtf are you talking about? I'm still not interested in this piece of shit scamcoin.

>>338203
After reading what I have about the instamine and the masternode system, I cashed the fuck out last night. If you have some darkcoin, just take your profits while you're ahead. Don't get fucking greedy.

>>338208
This guy knows. If you cash out right now you made a good profit most likely.

To everyone else, stop promoting a coin that the dev and his buddies hold 50% of.

>>338208
Darksend will still be completed and work.

>>338210
The dev and his pals pulled a good trick. Great marketing tactics, shiny new logo, make everything look professional, and tout the darksend system as revolutionary.

But it's all smoke and mirrors. Even if the devs are passionate and were working on something interesting, they've already been outdone by bytecoin. Every bytecoin transaction is anonymous, not just the ones sent through a special system like darksend.

So cash out now if you want to make any money. Don't be naive. Darkcoin is not the next bitcoin. It's just another scam like all the other altcoin forks.

>>338240
Bytecoin software is shit, Darksend still had good devs. There are reasons to still hold it even if it could crash into the ground due to competition.

Until Bytecoin has a GUI wallet and decent software, I'm holding my 20 DRK.

Already recouped initial investment when it was $0.86/coin, so I'm not too worried about the bumps from now until Darksend is finalized.

Bytecoin is up to 21 satoshis now.

>>338240

Bytecoin is another pump and dump too

All of these current generation cryptos are pump and dumps

They all have to die out completely and fast if we ever want to have a true legitimate cryptocurrency that is actually used as a currency and not a pump and dump.

The longer this bitcoin and altcoin shit goes on, the more it hurts the mainstream public perspective of it and the more laws the government will make restricting it.

>>338250
I heard about the 80% pre-mine also, but fuck it, dark is going down, I made my profits, now I want something new and exciting to throw my money behind and bytecoin fits the bill. There will be a GUI wallet eventually, I can wait. Plus I like messing around with command-line windows.

I have no doubts that there will one day be the last cryptocurrency - digital cash. No one knows what it will be, but all of these pump and dump shitcoins are building up to that.

And if we don't reach the ultimate goal of a globally adopted digital currency then god help us all.

>>338263
>Plus I like messing around with command-line windows.

The new wore off in the 1980s, believe me.

Isn't this just another pump and dump...

>>338468
Seems like it. Darksend is still vaporware, smells just a little bit like Stablecoin

what goes up must go down
nxt is the next one to crash

>>328750
I know you can short Bitcoin. Can you short DRK as well? I would like to get in on this crash.

I hope you guys bought all that cheap DRK.

I don't know why I'm even helping you guys but jucoin is the only viable crypto currency

>>339657
>buy into a dump

>>339682
>not buy at 0.008
>not sell at 0.02
It's like you enjoy being poor

>>339687
>buying
>not mining it since the launch and dump them all at 7$

>>339688
Yeah, I have another reason to kill myself now. First was BTC, now not being an early DRK miner.
I need to feel that feel of being one of the early guys at the right moment in the right place.
What can I do? Will Zerocash deliver? fuck my life man.

>>339695
you can still get on the capital coin train

>>339697
What train is that? seems like another shitcoin.

>5-18-2014
>mfw Darkcoin at $5.51

http://darkcoinprice.com/

>>339730
>Thought the same about DRK and now weeps on /biz/

Where can i buy darkcoins???

>>340020
You meant the 50% instamine scamcoin? Hmm not sure.

>>340020
this I'll buy some

>>340027
me too, my pc is too bad for mining.

>>340020
>>340027
I almost want to think most of the posts like this is DRK shills on other IP addresses or their phones. People can't be this retarded.

>>340029
how much, thinking about buying 100-200$, maybe it will get a lite coin pump and make a nice chunk of money, or maybe not, it's still a good bet

>>340038
so where do we buy it or exchange it?

>>340060
Bump

>>339838
DRK has a purpose to exist, that other coin is fucking retarded.

>>340309
>DRK has a purpose to exist
not really no
there are other coins that have anonymous transactions

what the shit.
how is that 3 bucks and doge coin is still at pennies?

>>340608
How do you not know that coins can have different amounts of supply?

>>340600
Here's why Darkcoin is the winner for now:

I've been looking at the Bytecoin code for a day now, it's pretty shitty IMO. It works but it's not very easy to work with, they had a team of like 10 people as well.

But the worst part is the "reference implementation" which is Bytecoin, it isn't documented at all so I'm trying to figure out how it works before I can improve it.

Bytecoin probably won't be usable for a while, DRK and Anoncoin and Zerocash are really the only contenders. Anoncoin has a slow dev team of like a single person, and Zerocash creators (some Israeli researchers I believe) aren't quite committed to creating a coin--and they intend for it to be closed-source.

If Bytecoin devs get off their ass and fix their shitty console programs, it could be a real winner because it has the best privacy that doesn't require a master-key like the Israeli Zerocash, and it doesn't require peer to peer transactions like Darkcoin. Bytecoin has the best, and Darkcoin devs plan to implement it into Darkcoin after they finish this version of Darksend.

For these reasons I must stand firm that Darkcoin is the best, even if the rumors of a 5% pre-mine are true.

DRK sits at $6.35/coin right now.

Free analysis courtesy of the Jew of operating.
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>>340020
cryptsy.com

you don't need to verify your identity and wait three days for someone to manually approve the photo of your birth certificate and SSN, and then another three days for the cash from your bank to get there like if you wanted to open an online brokerage account to trade stocks

Fuck the PATRIOT act, fuck it right in it's ass.

>>340027
I bought in at $0.86 a long time ago and started making Darkcoin threads while the Doge fags were circling the drain.

I'd say under $5 would be a good price for the immediate future. Nobody really knows though.

go to the darkcoin.com website and it lists exchanges you can purchase DRK from

>>340621
>5% pre-mine
50% insta-mine. And yes it's true. The dev admitted to it.

>>340628
It's not 50% you retard.

http://www.dailypaul.com/306558/beyond-bitcoin-a-guide-to-the-most-promising-cryptocurrencies

^ Ron Paul

Darkcoin Rising
Darkcoin, which was launched at the beginning of this year, has been on a bull run recently jumping from US$1.65 last Thursday to US$2.86 at the time of writing. Its market capitalization has also ballooned from US$7 million to almost US$12 million today.

Coin, cloak and dagger

The idea behind Darkcoin is, first and foremost, privacy. This cloak-and-dagger approach might sound like a redundant feature to some as many believe that Bitcoin provides users with complete anonymity, but this is not technically true.

A user that buys drugs on a site like Silk Road with the same wallet that he uses to buy an item on overstock.com can be traced albeit it requires much more effort when compared to credit cards. But, in fact, it takes a lot of work for Bitcoin users to achieve a desirable level of privacy using such arduous methods as having to juggle multiple wallets, cold storage, and numerous keys.

The brainchild behind Darkcoin, Evan Duffield, explained his motivation for creating this privacy-oriented crypto-currency:

“I believe the central problem with Bitcoin is that the public ledger, although a remarkable accomplishment, also allows a gross invasion of personal privacy by permanently listing all transactions the users have ever done publicly.”

Indeed, some users may find tremendous appeal in Darkcoin. It essentially makes transactions invisible in the public blockchain. And with 4 million darkcoins already in circulation and growing, the currency is expected to find its target users who prefer a higher level of anonymity.
http://cointelegraph.com/news/111441/darkcoin_rising

http://cointelegraph.com/news/111441/darkcoin_rising

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#darkcoin

It's 5% ^

I had a 0.01 buy order set yesterday and before i went to sleep i said fuck it and deleted it. Should I just kill myself? my luck is not good enough to make money.

>>340634
hi friend, what about monero or the bytecoin forks? is this a wise investment?

>>340621

what do you think of PND coin?

The developers say they have these unique points:

-no pre-mine/fair and loyal community of devs
-soon we'll have scrypt-n/x11 multipool
- Then we have a team that's here 24/7./ A functioning multipool.
- Certain target audience (SE Asia).
- We're the first to switch from fully PoW to fully PoS.

^ do those points mean much?

I don't see anything exceptional here

>>341086
Someone in the bytecoin thread on Bitcointalk is saying Monero was premined too, but the price jumped 300% last night. Your call to buy now or wait for it to dip back below .001

>>341335
Nothing that drives me toward it personally, no.

>>341086
I have serious doubts about their ability to improve the Bytecoin software.

zerocash will be released soon, so expect darkcoin to be kill within the next month. remember zerocash is the truly anonymous currency, zerocash shills gonna shill

>>341748
>proprietary

Into the trash it goes.

Today:
Monero
Bank Coin
Dark Coin
Yellow Coin

What else is popping off today?

>>341748
jesus it's like you actually want Israel/NSA to win

https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18

"Another important note is about trusted setup in Zerocoin. In easy words the whole system is based on some secret values nobody should know (for example, this secret allows to make a double spend). How to acquire these values? ZC devs says: we can generate them and then "forget" OR we can implement the special algorithm to do in a distributed way at the system start (everybody know only his own part of the secret). The second option, of course, is preferable, but the problem of trust still remains: there is no way for new users to be sure they are not fooled by the early adopters, who has generated the secret values. As you guess, our system has no such trapdoors: every parameter is public, as in original Bitcoin. We consider this as a major advantage over ZC."

Essentially this means Israel/USA may control Zerocash completely. I'm tempted to say Fuck Zerocash.

Why should we entrust Zerocash?

>>341804
curecoin is up 104%

>>341824
I like curecoin, and holding for long term potential.

>>328750
Remember to update wallets before the 25th.

Since people insist on bumping this thread.

Darkcoin:
> released without windows QT so that only dev and pals could mine it.

> Instamined harder than any other coin out there 12.5% of the current minting was mined in the first day

> Later they decided to cut the minting by 75% to turn their 12.5% instamine with no windows QT into 50% instamine in 24hours

Anyone who buys or bought after the first 24 hours is a bagholder. Whatever usefulness it had as a crypto is negated by the fact that 10 wallets hold about 50% of DRK.

Hey goys, apparently code from one "Andrey Sabelnikov", who is an accused botnet maker is included in Bytecoin source.


// Copyright (c) 2006-2013, Andrey N. Sabelnikov, www.sabelnikov.net
// All rights reserved.
//


>>341898
>waahhhh I was late to the DRK train

Even if the 5% pre-mine was true, it's still the best horse in the race.

see here:
>>340621

tl;dr ?
Zerocash has an Israel/NSA backdoor.
Anoncoin devs consist of one fat neckbeard trying to do all the work (or claiming too, the commits i've seen consist of "changed namespace name")
Darkcoin is rumored to have a 5% pre-mine
Bytecoin has shit software that is undocumented with no GUI wallet, and the devs aren't transparent enough to say "we're working on it goys!"
Bitmonero is a shitty clonecoin made by a brazilian/paki/indian who claimed to be Ukrainian, just a source copy of Bytecoin with no real dev team or plans to actually make the software more usable.
Bytecoin also has an 80% premine.

>>341914
>5% pre-mine

You keep on saying 5% pre-mine so I'm going to assume you are retarded at math and just retarded in general. It was close to a 50% insta-mine.

>1,600,000 coins mined in 8 hours
>2,000,000 coins mined in 24 hours
>4,300,000 total coins mined as of right now

The dev and his pals still own about 50% of the coins that they have been slowly been unloading on foolish bagholders like you.

so when is bytecoin going to be pumped?

>>341929
But it isn't...

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#darkcoin

It's 5% ^

>>341948
>being shilled this easily

How's NAUT looking to you guys?

>>341948
You fucking dumbass that was before they cut the minting. Even that article proves my point when it says that they mined 1,600,000 in 8 hours. That's not 5% of the 4,300,000 total coins mined. Check coinmarketcap for how many coins are in existence right now. Do the math you retarded bagholder.

>>341955
I put a little into it yesterday just in case and I am happy. Today I am looking at BANK because the dev has released the wallet and it worked. They are now switching to PoS and the miners will be exiting the market. If BANK doesn't go my back up plan is CURE and MRO these are medium to long term because they have the best features to date but if BANK gets online and running it will easily go to the 4k Sat range.

>>342065
>best features

What are the features of CURE exactly?

>>342508
You run folding@home and you get paid in CURE.

It's the only coin of it's kind where you participate in a global distributed network for folding proteins and are rewarded.

>>342531
http://crtcoin.com

Anyone know anything about this coin?

>>342535
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555578.0

Not much, looks like a PoS scrypt coin that had promises of being anonymous but isn't yet.

i bought .2btc worth of monero yest. i now have .6btc, and i've only sold half.
there only need to be one anoncoin, and anyone who has been paying attention, will already know what it is. or, well, what it will be, when it's finally released.
drk ded.

>>342551
Yeah MRO has been great today. I am waiting patiently for BANK to explode next. They're implementing zero cash and darksend as well as 100% PoS coin with x11.

>>342556
cba with bank, it's nice, but
>zero cash
i may remortgage my house when this is released.

anyone want in? monero dump happening.

>>342782
oh, scratch that. 27btc sellwall just appeared, price shat itself, then disappeared. wolong just happens to be in the trollbox as it's happening. hm.
https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/btc_mro

>>342784
fuck that chink
also dump your DRK while you can