/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>3256252
But I bought 1087 ARK at 1.80 anon

Also I set up my second password and it cost me 5 ARK, what the fuck

People never learn.

>>3256296
Holy shit, how far we have come. Had you said that last month, people would have laughed at you.

Feels good to finally be FRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>3256252
He was already there waaaay before 8 cents.

>>3256252
God, I can't wait for Ark to hit $20 a pop.

This shitcoin wont even get back to 3.00

ark is going there. free money. it's only a matter of days.

>>3256321
lel i did the same last night. was surprised by the fee

Yeah have patients

>>3256963
pay-shins**

>>3256252
Bought 2k, ready for them staking gains

>>3256987
I am going to use Quark I think, highest on the calc with my amount that I can actually stake with

>>3257004
biz_classic is the highest for everyone below 2k. It's literally 100%.

>>3257036
With your amount you're gonna get like 99.9% of your payout share, 100% when we go above 2k average again.

>>3257036
How much weekly for 1500?

>>3257046
More than everyone else.

I don't know. Do the math. It's the same equation regardless of pool (before the pool takes their cut).

your_balance / pool_balance * 422 * 7

Oh right, we have a fancy calculator now!

https://classicdelegate.biz/calculator

>>3257046
Theres a calculator

>>3256296
These bags bags were heavy at one point.

>>3257036
>>3257046

I read some FUD about them having too many people voting with them and that's why other pools with lower % payout actually get you better return?'

If anyone understands the mechanic better or if that is completely wrong I'd like to know. I really like this coin but am completely unfamiliar with DPOS.

>>3257055
>>3257065
>>3257071
Thanks

*cracks knuckles*
*clears throat*

ARK is going down to sub penny because all their devs are retarded pothead plebbitors

Screen cap diss!!!!!

Fuck ARK.

Have fun buying at ATH and getting BTFO when it pullsback you niggers!!!

>>3257088
It's true in theory, but that effect has diminished and we are the least affected by it because:

a) The gap between 51 and the top 15 has closed SIGNIFICANTLY (except for #1).

b) We payout far more than any other pool and the gap closure accounts for less of a gain than our payout percentage does.

Technically it wasn't FUD, but it was wrong when you actually did the math. It's true for some other pools because they're jews with their payout shares, but it doesn't apply to us unless there's somebody with less votes than us that does 100% (nobody does, even 90% is hard to find).

>>3257119
Cool, I'll switch after I get my payout. Thanks for responding.

>>3257075

Nice gains. Where'd you hear about ark first that made you buy in ?

>>3257111
I wish I didn't listen to this meme while I was looking to leave BNB

bump

>>3257065
>https://classicdelegate.biz/calculator

wow, did the IRS take over biz_classic.

holy shit....35%. There's gotta be another method for weeding out whales.

>>3258066
Grandfathering doesn't even kick in until you have $20,000 in ARK because you're taxed less than 10% under that amount (you're not taxed at all until $5000...) and the most generous delegates pay 80% (which is $55,000 in ARK with our pool).

Good luck finding a delegate that pays more if you have less than $55,000 in ARK.

With the future grandfathering system we're implementing everyone who sticks around long enough has a max tax of 10%.

This is as close to a perfect system as we could get.

>>3258165
thanks for clarifying. Makes sense now.

AAAAHHH

>>3258165
>With the future grandfathering system we're implementing everyone who sticks around long enough has a max tax of 10%.
I voted biz_classic a handful of days (at most) after top 51 due to not checking the state of the previous biz delegate scam I was voting for. No I am stuck without grandfathering and looking for other pools since I am a 24k tuna and looking to invest even more.

Am I correct to understand that you have some other trust system in the works that will reduce my taxation so that I do not need to switch sides?
I refuse to believe that I am "le evil whale" that needs to be kept out when I am just a poor student who was fortunate enough to make a hail-mary investment into ark at 10k sats. I'd like to continue to support you but please don't be that harsh.
When I checked the toplist a few weeks ago I was not even on there anymore but now I (barely) am again, it seems that the real big whales have already left.

>>3258293

The problem with the current system of "keeping whales out" damages whales that want to come in. We don't care about that, but it becomes a problem when the total pool size increases and ours is diluted to the point where only the GFed voters are incentivized to stay. The new GFing system that we plan to release Late Sept/Oct is our way to fix it.

The solution in the works applies on a per-deposit basis. Every deposit will "mature" (basically how RAB works but we are now combining it with the tax bracket system) and after some period of time it will also reduce the amount it is taxed, up to 90% payout. This will apply retroactively, and the idea we are tossing around right now is two months maturity (on a per deposit basis) will decrease the tax rate to 90%.

tl;dr Every deposit older than 2 months will be taxed at the same rate as GF'd accounts, applying retroactively once the system is implemented in the next few months.

These are still rough ideas but we have begun writing code and playing around with it. It seems to be the solution we're aiming for. As with the tax system, the exact numbers have not been finalized.

>>3256621
leave

>>3257036
What the hell is that even anyway? I simply put money in this and get a small percentage of it back daily?

>>3259010
Yeah you send all your ark to me i mean the biz_classic delegate and it pays you a percentage which you would then send back to my wallet. I mean the biz_classic wallet. Hold on, I'll go find it real quick and post it so you can get started.

Deluded Arkie

Hey guys, how far can it dip?

Sold at 2,80

is $2 unrealistic?
Also, someone please shill me the biz_delegate

>tfw had 2.4k ARK
>tfw daily +0.7 ARK from biz delegate
>tfw sold everything to reinvest at 40k sats
>tfw should have HODL

just

>>3256252
when will Ark rebrand itself as BittrexCoin?

>>3259300
Don't try to time this shit moron, you'll suddenly wake up in 3 days and find its $5 before you could buy back in

Too many people on /biz/ are holding too large of stacks of this coin.

I refuse to believe this many people here are actually making it to lambo land.

>>3259808
Most of the Bitcoin millionaires & ETH millionaires are from 4chan. What makes you think Ark won't be the same?

>>3259808
Doubt it'll take many people to lamboland, but probably into tens-of-thousandsaire

>>3259808
nigga that's dumb logic. there's some smart people on here, you fags know it's true. except for dgb bagholders. they're normies

$2.72 now

What's with these huge dumps

What does FUD mean

>>3260109
Fucked up dog

>>3260109
FUD =FEAR UND DISTRUST

>>3259010
No, you vote (money never leaves your wallet except the 1 ARK voting fee), and you get paid daily/weekly/monthly (your choice).

>>3260722
How come the payouts are dropping? Is this just normal decline of new tokens?

>>3258379
Moon Man will you please unban be from the discord?

>>3260109
fear, uncertainty and doubt

>>3260109
Fund ur dreams

Always FUD bro, it's the biz way

>>3260794
Who are you / why were you banned? There are VERY few people we banned, and they were only banned for outright shilling / shitting up the discord consistently.

>>3260783
What's your address? How significant of a drop? There are fluctuations of up to 5-10% depending on the pool balance.

The conference yesterday revealed to the world the stuttering potheads that run this scam.

Price has already tanked 10%. Once it breaks through the $1.50 resistance the panic will begin and small holders and speculators will begin to offload, with the whales already long gone.

Once it shoots through the $1 mark, unabated FEAR will ripe through all ARKies. With all those who dumped their current accounts into this scam twitching at their arsehole continuously while refreshing bittrex.

The $0.50 mark will be met, the largest panic in history will ensue. The final deluded Nodes will begin to go offline, and wagecuckers with their engineering salaries loaded up in ARK will be left with it stuck in their wallet, unable to move it to bittrex to salvage some self respect.

The price WILL tank at this point to sub $0.10, and most probably sub ICO levels.
2

From that day forward the deluded Arkie wagecucking engineering nerds who bought this coin thinking it had fundamentals will go back to their jobs, with no money in their current accounts, to be made redundant by the next wave of pajeets arriving to undercut their wages.

Deluded ARKies will hold bags FOREVER, with no job, no money, and no crypto.

I warned you ARKies. There's still time to get out. Sell NOW.

Don't be deluded, don't be an ARKie.

I lost my account name for the https://classicdelegate.biz/login how do i recover?

>>3261234
You should be able to reregister. Alternatively you can contact Chang in the Discord and he can manually check.

>>3261161
Oh ok I guess I better sell

>>3261265
which discord?

>>3261298
The biz_classic discord.

Invite code: zVSv8jn

>>3261151
heembro and you banned me cause i called you a punk for not giving me grandfather status cause i didnt unvote/vote for the new delegate correctly.

>>3261161
Arkies BTFO

>>3261366
Indeed, I have been getting blown the fuck out since 16k sato.

>>3261310
I wish I knew how to use discord

>>3256563
this pic is very comfy for some reason.

redpill me on ark

>>3261434
1) buy ark
2) vote biz_classic
3) receive dividends every day, week, or month

>>3261161
i want this to happen just so i can buy shitload of ark

>>3261434
Go to the website and read the whitepapers and look at the road map.
Also join the slack and red pill yourself.
This is a top 5 coin. I believe it will be #2 above ETH by May 2018.

honest question dont we want to discourage people from joining into the pool at this point since it could get diluted?

>>3261440
>>3261452
I've been doing nothing but reading today, on things other than coins

Is this generating enough hype and pressure that I can buy this right now and sleep on it to read about tomorrow with some gains?

>>3261461
The plan is to start a second delegate @ 2m ARK meaning more gains for all.

>>3256252
How do I make ARK work for me? I read somewhere you can get more or free ark somehow by holding in a wallet.

>>3261477
It's gonna be at the 2.40/2.50 range for a week or so and then we're gonna moon again. If you're gonna get in get in within the next few days.
After you get in just hold. Even if it goes down a little bit maintain the iron hands.
Anytime that anything on their road map is completed this coin is gonna go up.

>>3261554
Sounds fair enough
Good luck, Arkanons

When will it dip Arkbros? I want to buy more

>>3261554
I disagree and here is why

I have been watching ARK and holding it since it began in late march. I WOULD agree with what your saying had the last three little mini-pumps been consistent with the earlier patterns.

BUT, when ARK hit its ATH of 68.8k, it deviated from that pattern.

My prediction is that it is on a steep upward trajectory... (check the 1d charts) and you might see what I'm talking about. It's the last three major green events... they aren't consistent with past trends.

I think we will go as low as 45-48k (for a day or less) before penetrating the ATH again.

Either way, ARK is destined for success. I love you guys, stay strong and keep your holdings

>>3261659
Oh and just to add, the reason why I say hold and don't sell out to rebuy is because ARK is notorious for screwing you if you try that. As stable as it is, many people have been burned trying to do this.

It's a safe hold, so I recommend just holding it, even if it dips.

That's it. I've FUDed you gay ass arkies forever but now. I'm ready to board. And I'll do it at a premium. It is my just punishment for taking so long to believe.

What's ARK looking like half a year from now?

>>3261755
Guessing somewhere between 10 and 50

>>3261827
And how much Ark would I feasibly need to make back solid returns with biz_classic?

Thinking of using all my miner's revenue to stockpile a certain coin. Still can't decide which.

>>3261694
>Oh and just to add, the reason why I say hold and don't sell out to rebuy is because ARK is notorious for screwing you if you try that. As stable as it is, many people have been burned trying to do this.

haha what kind of noob would try that

>>3261512
>>3261903

Roughly 10% Yearly ROI.

https://blog.ark.io/how-to-vote-or-un-vote-an-ark-delegate-and-how-does-it-all-work-819c5439da68

There was a psychologist anon months ago when Ark was sub 10k sats talking about the similarities between Ark and Eth in its infancy. The signs are growing stronger.

>>3261939
Should I be selling off my 800ish dollars of OMG to put into this?

Hearing stories of ETH back when it was single digits is like a fairy tale to an anon who has only been in since May.>>3262024

>>3261924
haha you aren't the only one. I learned my lesson a couple of weeks before you... I've got 21.6k but I would have had 25k+ if I hadn't sold to try my luck elsewhere... I was lucky that I didn't sacrifice more to do it, because I got screwed.

I've asked before but didn't get an answer. I'm still curious... when you sold, what did you buy and how did it pan out?

>>3262084
I'm not deciding that for you. Shilling is disingenuous. Decide for yourself.

>>3262085
I succeeded the first 3 times I decided to swing trade, and exited at a decent profit. I can't be too mad.

You win some, you lose some. I just happened to get penalized significantly more than usual on one badly timed trade.

>>3262024
>talking about the similarities between Ark and Eth in its infancy.
What did he say?

>>3262718
Similar market cap, coin supply, volume, FUD

TFW only 255 ark.

I hate my life.

TFW 2000 ark

i'm feelin decent

>>3263217
lel I have 5, I'm hoping to get on another boat later with what I get from this...hah.

hey anons i had a question about the ark wallet if my computer broke down or something retarded, if i had my address and passphrase i could just access it again with those things right?

>6400 ark
>feelingoodman

Really surprised how 'all in' you guys are with it on a clearly downward trajectory. Are the digimarines going to get friends at last?

>>3256252

Come on Anon, we don't need shill tactics mate. ARK would be 5 dollars right now if the BTC market didn't grab our momentum earlier.

>>3263325
Just your passphrase is enough

>>3263348
Not as 'all in' as I was in ur mom last night tho.

>>3263387
thanks chang.

>tfw only just over 100 ARK
At least I got in when it was at only 13777sats/$.34.

Ark gave me everything

now I'm riding on omg's moon

and as soon as it slows down I'll go back to the ark to survive the flood


how hard can the dip get?

>>3263397
savage

Phew just got back in with a 1% loss.
Then of course the price drops to what would have been a 1% gain.

It's gonna go back up right...

>>3263986
Lots of roadmap items on the agenda for ARK in the coming month, the whales are finally starting to loosen up on this fucking thing

>>3263986
It's up 26% this week, and you guys are freaking out over a 20 cent drop.

>>3264009
i know right. bunch of babies

this ark needs a nursery

>>3264009
Hey fuck you man

>>3264009
>they bought the ATH

>>3257181
>where
How new are you? This was probably the most shilled coin on /biz/ for a while and it started when was still less than $0.20

I made some nice profits off this coin but admit that I only sold and never bought again because of the massive FUD and non stop shilling;

>>3264271
Fuck you, leatherman.

>>3264432
OH YES SIR

>>3256252

I put in a buy order at .0005, i think it'll drop that far

Hey guys, I have around 3k Ark and I voted for a delegate whos been jewing me consistently, how do I switch my vote and which delegate would you guys recommend to maximize dividends on this acc balance? Thanks in advance

>>3264586
Get the slack and check the delegates calculators.
You need a d

The no brainer option is to vote for biz classic, which has one of the best %ges and weirdly is the most sophistacted delegate.

you vote through your wallet by clicking on vote, and selecting the biz_classic delegate. Costs 1 ark.

If you are voting for someone else you have to separately unvote for them, also costs 1 ark.

Biz classic also have a website where you can configure payment frequency.

>>3264792
*you need a d ->
Delegate in top 51 with high payment ratio and towards the bottom of the list for optimal returns

i'm in

>>3264792
Thanks mate!

>>3264898

Nice. If I wasn't at work right now I'd be buying more too. Dammit.

Jumping on the ark train with $200 now

W-will it dip below 52k again? Was waiting for my BTC and couldnt buy the dip

>inb4 this is the dip

Ark is ready

Redpill on Ark:

Ok, so cryptocurrency is digitally encrypted money which right now is unusable. You can't go to the store and by milk with bitcoin. A couple of cryptos have their own card, which is nice, but you would need a card for each currency you own. A bitcoin card, a litecoin card, an ethereum card, etc. A few cards are able to store more than a few cryptos, like tenx, but Ark is the only card that will be able to take whatever coin you own, bitcoin, eth, etc and convert it instantly to ark, a usable currency, via their smartbridge technology . So with Ark card i can buy milk with any currency coin i own. I could have 100 cryptocurrency coins and only need one cryptocard, The Ark card. This is just one of the many many game changing things they are doing They also are coming out with push-button blockchains. So, Say MGM grand casino wants to use cryptocoins for their casinos. Instead of spending years developing their own crypto they can simply push one button in the ark wallet and boom instant MGM coins for use in their casino. Or say call of duty wants to make COD coins for in game video game purchases. Push one button in Ark wallet and boom instant COD coins for their video game saving ,potentially, years of hardwork with the push of one button. There are an infinite amount of uses for push-button blockchain technology!!! Also, nano ledger wallet, which is an encrypted currency wallet. Basically your own personnal bank for your cryptocurrencies that only you can access. Is adding Ark to their wallet, which means all coins in the entire cryptoverse will be able to be stored on nano ledger, one of the most secure ways to store your cryptocurrency, via Arks smartbridge. This is huge! Ark is going to be like the Walmart of cryptocurrencies. A one stop shop for all of cryptocurrency. Ark is the future. It is the disruptive technology that is going to take crypto mainstream. Ark has no competitors, it aims, instead, to bridge all currencies...(to be cont.)

>>3265381

(Continued)

Ark has no competitors, it aims, instead, to bridge all currencies together. Wanna make a life changing amount of money? Invest in the future, invest in the coin that is going to change everything by simplifying everything. Board the Ark.

>>3265381
actually useful information, i'm really looking into sinking some bitcoin into this now

>>3265407
I have boarded the ark with my last bitcoin. The ark will either carry me to victory or death.

>>3265381
Fuck, this seems tempting. I may buy ark

How will Ark react when bitcoin corrects

Ist 10k enough?

Could've had 20k but I hesitated for too long

>>3265500
yeah that's plenty.

>>3265554

You will probably be very wealthy. Congrats.

>>3265567
I think you replied to the wrong person :)

>>3265500
your gonna make it

whats the fastest I way I can buy ARK? I have a coinbase account with my bank account hooked up to it and no money or crypto in my coinbase account.

>>3265381
you have convinced me anon
thank you for the red pill

>>3265589
buy btc, buy ark with btc

>>3265636
That's still going to take over a week, and I won't be able to take advantage of this sweet sweet dip

>>3265648
Well then you're SOL I guess.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

DELUDED ARKIES YOUR COIN IS CRASHING WITH NO SURVIVORS BURNING TO THE GROUND

YOU HAD TO LISTEN BUT NO YOU ARE GOING TO DIE WITH YOUR SHITCOIN

PINK WOJACKS INCOMING

Is it worth it for me to bring over 4.6k from Arkpool to bizclassic? Biz cucked me so I went to arkpool.

>>3265654
It's still up like 30% in the past week, retard

>FOMObought ARK @2.88

Will this shitcoin ever go back to its ATH?

>>3265683
if you think it's a shitcoin maybe you shouldn't have FOMOed into it

>>3265683
and far beyond. just be patient.

>>3265699
haha why do ARKies are so salty. Why are you praising this coin like it will save your life

>>3265683
no never...

buy high sell low

>>3265678
YOU MAD ARKIE? I'M SURE YOUR ARE ENJOY THAT BAGS FAGHODLER

DON'T GET SUICIDAL AFTER YOUR SHITCOIN WORTHS NOTHING

>>3265683
Are you retarded Anon, why would you go and do something like that?

>>3265710
because it already has, and will again - you stupid nigglet!

>>3265715
Stay mad when ARK moons, you stupid ETHnigger

Guys. Are you sure ARK's a good idea?

>>3265756
this a long term hold for most of us i would imagine. not like we're gonna care about dips next year when/if it hits high double digits

>>3265777
ark will hit 8 usd by november

screencapthis

managed to buy the peak at the tippy top yet again

ahahaha fucking kill me

>>3265756

What the fuck site do you use that its 4.14 high mate?

>>3265817
its probably AUD
>>3265815
Same here, it is possible it will climb back up

>>3265815
just wait a few weeks. they hav news coming out apparently. will be way beyond that price by that point

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

ARK IS SUB 50K IT'S OVER FAGS YOU LOST

YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE EVERYTHING

GOD DAMN THIS IS SO EXCITING

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>3265824
Ausfag here, it's not AUD.

high was $3.81

If whoever thinks that ARK is LTH and will increase in price next week/month, then this price drop is godsent

>>3265942
It's SGD

>>3265959
This board is for whites only

>>3265969
I'm white

Is it too late to get in? Not much here, only 25 omg right now, but you've got to start somewhere, eh? Best wallet / exchange for this?

Ark just now taking off, don't miss out

>>3256252
>/biz/ is one person
>>>/pol/

Sorry everyone, I bought in, that's why it's dipping

OK lads, I'm tired of dicking around trying to chase moons in shitcoins. Should I just go all in on Ark? Almost have 1k

>>3266510
official ark.io wallet

bittrex is fine

>>3267660
do you believe?

>>3267660
how much can you buy?

>>3267613
No it's because I bought in

>>3267691
I believe
>>3267729
Like 150 Kek

>>3267770
then do it.

>>3265589
Setup Bittrex account. Go to Wallets. Click the plus sign next to Bitcoin. Grab the address. Go back to coinbase and send the money to Your Bittrex wallet address. Make sure you send it to the right wallet. You can lose money if you send a currency to the wrong wallet. You can trade bitcoin for other cryptos

Will ARK ever hit current ETH prices if they deliver their products?

>>3256252
the face when you bought ark at .53 cents/

I am getting tired of my SIA bags. Advices?

Also I have a good authority, via cliff high, that DGB is about to explode.

CAP THIS. Ark bros.

>>3268941
If they deliver? Easily, possibly even more, but right now I'd say it's a double digit coin

ARK is the most cult like crypto out there.

Im all in.

Arkoshi will deliver us

We're all gonna make it

>>3269795
can't go wrong with the cult coins

So my delegate should be biz_classic right? Is there anything special I need to do besides throw in my votes?

What's an anon to do if you don't have much money to invest in any given shitcoin?

I'm unemployed and still looking for a job, and have $25k in student loan debt to work off pretty soon. I've invested maybe $1.5k of whatever money I had left into, in descending order: BTC, Ripple, ETH, and Monero.

I bought XRP at $0.28 (RIP me) so I'd rather just hold that. But seeing as bitcoin is becoming a living breathing meme, should I just pull what I have left of that into ARK? Seeing as it is much more likely to moon than all the others.

ARK>ETH WHEN??

>>3267891
Use litecoin to transfer from coinbase. It's faster, cheaper, and more reliable.

>>3256252
I was actually happy to have almost 1400 ARK as a grandfathered biz_delegate voter. Now I checked the site and it seems the average is 1950 ARK. Feels kind of shitty being below average. Fuck.

>>3270653
i just bought more and now im above average.. do i not get 100% anymore?

>>3270182
Make an account on the site if you want to change your payout schedule. It defaults to daily for all new voters.

>>3270678
You do. We use a progressive tax bracket system. Check the site's calculator if you want to get a feel of how much you'll get paid.

Chang here btw, phoneposting.