/biz/ - Business & Finance

Remember to only create new threads AFTER the old one has reached its bump limit of 300 posts.

Exchange - Current Price 105 Satoshi:
https://coinedup.com/OrderBook?market=DOGE&base=BTC
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/132
https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?alt=doge&base=btc
https://bter.com/trade/doge_btc
https://coinex.pw
https://www.swisscex.com/market
http://www.reddit.com/r/dogemarket

Buy DOGE with fiat:
http://vaultofsatoshi.com
https://www.kraken.com

Mining guide:
http://doges.org/index.php?topic=592.0
https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AlhSF602y9DSdHRneWVZcjJLWmhjaVBMTHVCR3l4eHc
http://rumorscity.com/2013/12/09/how-to-modify-video-bios-to-undervolt-gpu-in-linux

Pools:
http://fast-pool.com
http://doge.poolerino.com
http://doge.netcodepool.org
http://ypool.net
http://shitpost.asia
https://suchcoins.com
http://hashdogs.org
http://bigcryptopool.com
http://doge.st

Useful sites:
Blockchain:
http://dogechain.info/address/address.goes.here

Free doge:
http://kentbrew.github.io/dogefaucets

Miscellaneous:
http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/dogebtc
http://dogemonitor.com
http://doge.yottabyte.nu
http://bluecoinstock.com/public/market/1
http://www.coinwarz.com/exchange-charts/dogecoin-exchange-rate-chart
http://www.dogetools.com/calc
http://cryptmarketcap.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin
http://dogecoinpaperwallet.net
http://dogeprice.net
http://www.reddit.com/r/DogeNews
http://saydoge.com
http://flappydoge.net
http://www.dogebiz.net
http://www.dailydoge.org
http://daily-crypto.com

Want the DOGE coin to succeed? This is how you can help:

Ask btc-e to add DOGE to their exchange:
http://hdbtce.kayako.com

Donate to the original doge owner:
http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/1w7ouk

Join #do/g/ecoin at Rizon now.

THIS POST IS ABOUT PANDACOIN (PND). WHAT IS PANDACOIN (PND)? IT'S AWESOME AND YOU SHOULD MINE IT NOW. (http://bamboohouse.info/index.php?page=gettingstarted))

UPDATE YOUR WALLET TO THE NEWEST VERSION(1.6.1):
http://thepandacoin.net

Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529
Twitter: /PandacoinPND
Facebook: /Pandacoin.PND
Reddit: /r/PandacoinPND
IRC: #PandacoinPND on freenode

Want to help PND?
Send a mail for its inclusion on bter to: admin@mail.bter.com
Coinedup subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/CoinedUp/comments/1ylq9d
Coinwarz contact: http://www.coinwarz.com/contact <- Contact to list PND
Cryptsy voting: https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes
Vote for PND on this useless exchange. https://coinano.com/vote

Website: http://thepandacoin.net

Wallet:
Binaries: https://github.com/pandacoin-official/binaries
Source: https://github.com/pandacoin-official/pandacoin

Multipool:
http://multi.pandapool.info

Normal pools can be found in the bitcointalk thread.

Exchange:
https://www.swisscex.com
https://www.mintpal.com/market/PND/LTC
https://xnigma.com/markets/view/59
https://allcrypt.com

Faucets:
https://www.pandapool.info/index.php?page=faucet
http://bamboohouse.info/index.php?page=faucet
http://pandacoin.altcoinfaucet.net
http://1dash.net/faucet

Mining Guides:
http://doges.org/index.php?topic=592.0
https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AlhSF602y9DSdHRneWVZcjJLWmhjaVBMTHVCR3l4eHc
http://rumorscity.com/2013/12/09/how-to-modify-video-bios-to-undervolt-gpu-in-linux

Mining Resources:
https://www.litecoinpool.org/minerconfig
http://bamboohouse.info/pandacoin.conf
http://pandachain.net

Miscellaneous:
http://1dash.net

IRC: #officialpandacoin@freenode (webchat.freenode.net)
Forum: http://forum.bamboohouse.info

Tipbot for 4chan:
http://tipbot.bamboohouse.info

wew lad

>>318219

is this a /g/ thing?

how did the vroom vroom go?

>>318259
he was 20th i think

here is an all star vote, if he wins there will be another race with him

>>318213

any idea on how much time it will take to implement POS?

>>318262
It is implemented but not done testing.

>>318263
i see

then i should remove excess amounts of PND from exchanges for maximum profit

>>318264

will holding garner more PND in PoS?

>>318267

thats the point of POS

the more you have/hold in your wallet the more you get in return as interest

It avoids people dumping in the market excessively as holding would be more profitable should you have a lot

>>318275

WHY DID WE HAVE ANY DOUBT OR A DELAY EVEN!?

>>318276

because merging mining with Doge was another option

>>318283
I'm sorry, I'm on work pc now.

>>318286

>>318289
I promise I'll be back to you this evening (CET), when I'm back home.
In the meantime, try the 1dash.net/faucet

>>318283
>>318289

sent ;)

also try the faucets if you havent already

>>318283
wtf you already got 2 mil PND?

i am 40K PND short of 2 mil here

>>318299
sent ;)

amDOGE alone sent me about 2.3 million since the beginning I think, over a million in two occasions.

>>318292
>>318295
Received ;) thanks

>>318301
>sent ;)

t-t-thanks

>>318301
>amDOGE alone sent me about 2.3 million since the beginning I think, over a million in two occasions.

i see

i just received a million PND yesterday from a generous tipper who i think was drunk

however 1 mil PND was a literally less than 1% of his share so it barely made any difference to him as long as i was not richer than him

finally over 2 mil PND feels nice

i find it funny that your shortened address is :28 and mine is :29, we are pretty close balance wise too now

What would you say is enough PND to be on the train?

>>318303

100K PND?

who knows?

depends what you want to do with with it

>>318304

Buy a fastorghini!

>>318303

10 mil for a first class ticket, an extra 4 mil for dindins plus tip

>>318305

whats that?

>>318306

Tip top!

>>318308

A car!

>>318308

and italian car which looks like a squashed frog

gentleman, we need to discuss the mona shill, to do away with them for good I think we need to beat mona on coinmarketcap

>>318314
Will this cause him to commit sudoku?

>>318323

maybe or evolve his shitposting to maximum form

>>318314

i got 2 amd 290x's and i was making 5k per day before the last halving. i'm starting to think mining is not worth it anymore. is this a normal income?

>>318330

well it will eventually collapse on itself and drop past PND but I was hoping for it to jump sooner~

>>318336

You could mine a younger coin

>>318336
http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dogecoin-mining-calculator/?h=1800.00&p=500.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.00&d=650.52082388&r=125000.00000000&er=0.00000105&btcer=434.08000000&hc=0.00
Check out our multipool though - http://multi.pandapool.info (yes it offers doge as well)
Also >>318339

>>318337
;_;

>>318314

>beat mona on coinmarketcap

>>318345
Please create your own thread if you need to advertise mona.

>>318347

when will teh ability to directly mine PND cease?

>>318352
There's no set hour / block / date yet. You will know soon enough.

>>318355
okay

>>318352

>this kills the pnd

>>318355
Will you give at least a day heads up so people can repoint miners at the multipool?

A random philantrope dropped just five million PND for the AC coin relief initiative.

It makes my 1337PND each look pale..

>>318360
infact the exact opposite

it grows the PND

>>318361

i think thats the primary plan, to get those direct miners in the official pools to the multipool

>>318364
>dropped just
just dropped*

>>318361
Of course.

>>318364

we're doing amgods work~

>>318364
>AC coin relief initiative.

i hope this is not the AC in exchange for PND thing?

>>318373
>in exchange
There was never an exchange. The PND we gave them were free.

>>318364

>He still don't understand that in crypto everything you expect to happen is the exact opposite of what will actually happen.

>>318374

oh i see

i mistook the amount checking of AC for exchange of AC

Anyways, they seem to be working on undoing the scam by removing te premined block in a hard fork

We might have harmed our image by shilling our coin there.

The better thing to have done was to help them code the hard fork in the name of PND. it would have raised our image and also would have gotten us ,more supporters in AC community the same way BC got supporters from Doge

So we're going POS.. well I hope for the sake of all of us we pull a Blackcoin. This is the coin for people who missed the Blackcoin train.

>>318375
The remedy is simple: start expected the opposite of what you expect.

>>318376
The difficulty doubled as a result so I won't complain. Additionally it gave use many supporters in their ranks. Some even transitioned.

>>318378
exptecting

>>318379
*us many

>>318375
No, you're just worse than Miles about predicting markets.

>>318379
>Some even transitioned.

i know but it came at the price of many viewing us as spammers and shillers.

It could have been handled better

We shouldnt shill our coin when we ourselves dont like shillers (MONA). It ruins our image

>>318383
I doubt Nekomata has offered to match us on PND with MONA for free

is doge kill

>>318383
There's nothing wrong with shilling your own coin but if it's on the scale of trying to deliberately split a community, like our dear rat named Nekomata does, then no, that's not acceptable.

>>318386
No.

>>318387
o-okay

>>318387

still we could handle future instances like these better , if we dont spam our help and just provide them an option only when they have no other resort

Or provide help where they need like AC making a hard fork to undo the scam

>>318394
Nobody knew (i still don't know) if removing that first block is even possible.
There is a problem with this particular case, as AC is a direct competitor to PND for the asian market.

Also, the dev team is doing hard work for PND (PoS, multipool, everything), and even while many here come from /g/, the amount of help from the comunity in not exactly overwhelming.

Turns out that if I had never patched that wallet for PANDA we wouldn't have the type of consistent PR we have now. This is an odd turn of events.

>>318387

Excuse me, I'm not a rat.

If you want to help us, mail moolah.io to include Monacoin in their services.

>>318398
>There is a problem with this particular case, as AC is a direct competitor to PND for the asian market.

i see, then we should not have gotten involved, since we would clearly come off biased with our help, unless they exhausted all other options. And they seemed to have a few options when we were offering our help


>Nobody knew (i still don't know) if removing that first block is even possible.

I think , they have figured out what part of the code was meant to be scam and are working on removing that part and reconfiguring it to make it workable. It doesnt seem impossible but is definitely tough

>>318403

degeso~

>>318402
I remember that event, and the chatlog that was posted.
You are highly consistent at doing good work. There are days when "rewards" come in steady, don't come, or come in an elegant velvet package. That day was one of the lucky ones.

Plus, you're a genius.


>>318406
We couldn't have predicted they would show such persistence to reviving it. Most scamcoins just die. Kudos for them, tho.

>>318409
>We couldn't have predicted they would show such persistence to reviving it.

fair enough

>>318403
You are. The fact that I'm telling you this should be indication enough.

>>318409
>We couldn't have predicted they would show such persistence to reviving it.
This. The campaign was meant to run for much longer than that. Too bad they just migrated.

>>318418

all i am saying is we should be careful that we dont come off as shills when we are trying to do something like that, it makes us look bad

>>318382

I hate to brag but I give nothing but consistent and profitable advices in this community
http://archive.foolz.us/biz/thread/307479/#q307694
and you sir are being very baka today.

>>318423
I see your point but thanks for clarifying.

>>318425
What about PANDA and tenfive? Those were more than bad.

>>318425
>I-I predicted a pump and dump once guys!
Top kek. Consistent my ass.

>>318418

I'm sorry amDOGE but you are no moral compass, we know you.

>>318432
Why is that?

>>318432
Who is we anyway? Are you more than one poster?

>>318425
>>318428

#rekt

>>318432
>posting lewd on a blue board
>after calling amDOGE amLEWD
[GOING BACK ON STATEMENTS INTENSIFIES]

>>318432
I remember reading the chatlog with the famous "FUCK! PULL OUT!" line. I actually got into cryptos sometime later. How were things at that time?

>>318432
>>318434
I take Jacob is still at it then?

>>318432
Please respond.

>>318430
it's not a pump and dump, it still undervaluated, this will become the last anti-asic algo for a while

>>318428
Not in their intention they weren't, PND was created to kill and destroy, you can't change that.

>>318437

Please learn a thing or two.

>>318439
Same as today but things moved slower and you had 2-3 days to get in a coin before the train departed the station as opposed to 2-3 hours today.

>>318440
Jacob still Jacob.

>>318437
Just so you can't predict my moments.

>>318444
Don't worry, I'll never leave :3

>>318449
Then please answer >>318434

>>318450

I'm who you say I'm but I'm not the only with opinions you disagree here, I see a lot people being called me or a shill when its not me.

>>318449

>>318449
>PND was created to kill and destroy, you can't change that.

why would we want to change that?

We are proud that PND was created to kill and destroy scams in cryptocurrency

>>318452
>I'm not the only with opinions you disagree here
Care to give any examples?
>I see a lot people being called me
Care to give any examples?

>>318449
>it's not a pump and dump
The rise in value was.
>not in their intention they weren't
So PANDA was meant to do no harm whatsoever and be lovely?
What are you on?
>Please learn a thing or two.
I think you could benefit more from it.
>Jacob still Jacob
So yeah, he's shilling and creating more coins despite him saying he never wanted to create anything more than UNO?
>Just so you can't predict my moments
>I was only pretending tp be retarded!

>>318456
*to

>>318455

No.

>>318456
>So yeah, he's shilling and creating more coins despite him saying he never wanted to create anything more than UNO?
I'm not Jacob, he do what he wants but I don't know of new coins by him, I know he still likes UNO
>So PANDA was meant to do no harm whatsoever and be lovely?
Yes.

>>318461
Then I can't believe you and I doubt anyone else will.

>>318461
Face it, no matter what, once Wololo made a good profit he was going to pull out and leave you in the dust anyway.

>>318456
>>318463

I have to say wolong was the worst thing that happened behind the scenes in the crypto world, he gave doge a huge bump before dumping all of it, which started the brewing of the leddit community and made amDOGE who he is today through fame and profit proxy, also he backstabed everybody and their grandma in the end.

>>318462
Your narcissism is showing.
I'm sure everybody here can think for themselves.

I hope you can all repent and dump your dirt coins for mona/grs.

>>318465
If everyone and you is so sure about it then why is it so hard to give examples?

>>318467

Because I like you and don't want to see you crying amSENPAI.

>>318470
This doesn't seem to matter to you either way it seems.

>>318465
>a few guys shows up and says "Cryptocurrency sucks!"
>I HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH ME

>>318471

Don't say that noface, don't let this vicious battle for the soul of /biz/ and all glory corrupt our relationship .

>>318472
I don't think cryptocurrency sucks, wtf you are talking about.

>>318476
Please create your own thread if you need to advertise mona.

>>318476
Exactly.

amDOGE you sure you want to accept screenshots?
I can easily fabbricate one in 25 seconds

>>318477

I'm only doing this because of you amDOGE, when you generously gave me that mona months ago, no one had ever gave me anything, I can't stop until your gift to me became the most valuable in the altcoin market.

>>318481
That's fine. As long as they make the effort.

>>318482
What are you doing though? Causing people mona to dump their coins hardly is a good objective.

>>318482
No, you're just intensely butthurt about us making better choices, and us killing your scam.

>>318481

show 9876543.21 AUR

>>318487
>Causing people mona to dump their coins
*Causing people to dump their coins

>>318487
>Causing people mona to dump their coins hardly is a good objective.
Unless he's buying them up, which I doubt.

>>318491
That would be absolutely selfish if you ask me. Moral less even.

>>318492
>Moral less even
?

>>318495
Remove the space and you're good.

I'm not buying all the mona, I didn't even think of that, I don't want anyone dumping it ;-;
w-what I'm doing wrong.
it's not like you have to think much, just dump everything that is not mona to buy mona.

>>318482
Then why don't you use the PND tipbot. People are very generous in these threads.

>>318496
Oh, silly me. Couldn't figure it out for some reason.

>>318498
>just dump everything that is not mona to buy mona.
This is what you are doing wrong asshat.

>>318498
You're intentionally annoying us with MONA shilling.

>>318489
>9876543.21 AUR

>>318504
Your screenshot is missing one thing though.

>>318507
You mean the username?

>>318510
The balance is wrapped in <strong />.

>>318511

ha, nice

but anyways there is no use for this kind of thing at all

>>318511
Yeah, you're right

>>318515
It looks cool

>>318516
>It looks cool

i guess

>Maybe you could stop spamming the Asiacoin thread. Nobody wants $0,10 in pandacoins, nor they will ever be more than $1,00. If they will, i will eat my shoes. What exactly is your goal with pandacoin? Just a sweetie coin? Or is pandacoin a new bitcoin rival xD

>Do you live in the Netherlands? I am searching for a skilled coder to make a coin for me. I could use your coding skills and pay you good sum of money:)

>Thanks

>>318520

u-u-uhhh

>>318302

"DOGECOIN" HAS REMAIN VIRTUALLY STATIC FOR ALMOST A WEEK. WHY?

>>318585
Because BTC isn't doing anything

>>318585

do people really go to nascar to look at the advertisements?

>A guy comes and claims that he is the only person on /biz/ making money
>People are paying attention to monashill
>Wise ends up number 20.

I can't be absent for the weekend because things get crazy around here

>>318597

niggah that's kawaii~

>>318585
All the activity went to Josh Wise.

I have been mining Panda at the multipool and they already payed me three times.
But now I am waiting for over five hours and still no payment.
Do I have a problem?

>>318622
same here, don't worry the payouts for multipool are not always exactly 4 hours on the dot your pandas are safe

>>318623
Ok, than I will just keep waiting.

>>318622
It's likely an issue with Cryptsy.

>>318585

Doge needs to evolve

okay, at what do I aim my monstrous 270kh/s?
it only pulls like 30watts more compared to idling so I just wanna let the GPU mine something when my PC is on.

any recommendations? any new and interesting coin?

>>318710
also, no mona.

>>318622
Past 2 weeks the payouts have often been late. Don't worry about it, everything is paid up ultimately, the worst delay I think was 6 hours

>>318710
PND on the multipool.

>>318710
Try mining some Nscrypt or X11 coin. There's no scrypt coin worth mining currently besides PND

>>318713
They payed half an hour ago for round 260, but nothing for 259.
Can I expect to get it later? Or is it gone?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=595767.0

>>318719

>>318719
Where's the IPO address?

>>318717
I just got it right now. It can be late but there hasn't been any missing payout since the launch of the multipool 6 weeks ago. I've been mining there since the beta

>>318717
Finally got it. I guess I can still trust them.

>>318736
they're trying it the oldschool way. 0.5% premine and all.
the sad thing is that there are people aiming gigahashes at coins like this

WIP... http://pnd4pnd.com/

Needs a logo and general brushing up, but is serviceable for now.

>>318741
The dev yesterday or earlier today cant remember mentioned a LTC negative balance on cryptsy, and frequently reports similar problems with other coins there, I think that its safe to assume that when the payouts are late its probably because cryptsy is fucking up

>>318741
>I guess I can still trust them.
Round time is 4 hours, not 1 day as for most other multipools. If you couldn't "trust us" you can just stop mining.

>>318749
mintpal is the one usually the one messing things up for this, at least for PND

>>318741
The pool is the most transparent multipool I've seen. Have you tried the others around?

tumblr dog coins are still a thing?

>>318763
Apparently.

>>318758
I didn't, but probalby would have if I didn't get my coin.
Other than the delay and a weird spliting of payments they are great.

>>318746
i like :)
one thing you may want to add is a panda:// link so i can directly donate without copying

>>318719
>Disgusting logo
>Disgusting wallet
>Blatantly ripping off of doge
The audacity of some people astonishes me.

>>318781

Done. Just click the QR codes. Let me know if it doesn't work.

I've just started to mine Doge, I'm using a GTX 750 TI and it's running at 260 khash/s - the payout is embarrassingly low - should I continue, is it even worth it?

>>318806
Where are you mining?

>>318802
Donated.
>>318806
Go ahead, I also have a 750ti and it's great

>>318809
http://dogepool.pw/

>>318810
who are you mining with? whats your hash rate? have you tweaked your GPU for further for improved h/rate?

>>318815
Tweaking is basically a must, as you could squeeze 10-20% more.

The PND/DOGE multipool is the most profitable place to mine DOGE
multi.pandapool.info

I'll be here if you have other questions.

>>318815
I'm mining on the multi, PND but you can use it for DOGE.
And no, I haven´t changed the GPU but I get about 260KH/s and I never go above 55ºC

>>318806
>>318810

whoa, the 750ti family is growing. I have one too (the ASUS one).

I got it up to 298 but then it got kinda glitchy.

I really miss the times when you could freely set voltages and speeds (like i was able with my GTX460).
all these limits are pig disgusting.

but in general, it's a damn fine card.
especially considering it has even a bit more power than the GTX480 which was a beast and that while only drawing a fraction of the electricity AND not heating up like a mad cunt

>>318596
This.
>implying NASCAR fans give a fuck about memes
>implying NASCAR fans give a fuck about crypto
>implying there would ever be some flood of NASCAR fans eager to throw money at dog currency because they saw a dog on a car
>implying the average NASCAR fan has the intellect to navigate the byzantine and shady path to turning real money into dogecoins

The DOGE spent on buying a NASCAR would be better spent on ads on tech sites and in the WSJ. If it was Earnhardtcoin, then NASCAR would have been the best place to hock it.

>>318815
You'll get at least 25% more DOGE mining on multi.pandapool.info. I have a 1MH rig of 4x750 (3 are Ti, one is regular) and it works really nicely with much less heat than the 2x7950 that I had before.

>>318821
hmm mine seems to hover around 65 degrees, will that wear out the card?

>>318845
No, I think 65 is still a good temp, my potato miner used to go up to 80 and still works fine for games.
>>318835
yeah, I go the EVGA one and it's actually nice, if I even got out of the wild ride of mining I can still have a really good gaming card, but I don´t see that happening soon

>>318862
go eat your apple outside when adults are talking. monafag.

>>318863

>>318863
I have no relation whatsoever to mona

>>318862
Sent

>>318867

would you like some relation to sex~?

>>318863
>>318866
sorry.
the monafaggotry made me oversensitive towards animu faces in crypto threads.
you may continue enjoying your fruits with us, of course.

>>318862
I would send, but you are sitting at 2mil, some people need the donation more than you

>>318870
was meant for
>>318867

i should get some sleep..

>>318873
Then make a game.
There are lots of open sourced games you just need to rebrand.

>>318876
I was not saying that I wanted the donation.
I was just saying that he has more PND than a lot of people here.

Also my coding abilities don´t go beyond pascal.

So... what is /biz/ opinion on BlackCoin?

http://strawpoll.me/1639809

>>318878
slowpoke.jpg

>>318843

>>318870

>>318868
Received ;) Thanks

>>318873
No problem, my dream since I got the first million is to be a Pandibillionaire some day.

1# Update!
>wtf is 1#?
1dash.net is a website I'm working on, with crypto related data, in which *you* decide what data you want to see and how you want to see them. You can rearrange and resize your layout with drag&drop. It's unique in that you can track multiple data on the same page, your way.
Think iGoogle for cryptos.

This is a Usability/UI update.

The BitcoinTalk Panel has had a visual upgrade. I'd appreciate any comment you have on this.
There's some minor linting.

Check out, the features page. A new challanger appears!

If you have problems with viewing the updates, force-refresh the page (ctrl+f5)

Have fun!

>>318898
You just keep making this better and better.

>>318906
Thanks :)
Well, yesterday's update sucked, so it was kinda necessary.

Please fund the Assets, I'd really like to do that next.

>>318906
This.

>>318883
We all want to be a pandabillionaire some day

>>318992

too many billions for this world!

>>319005
10-20 Millionen are okay...

Made a console ticker for anyone who wants one.
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b51025c4a01baaf71544
Put it in a directory with a file named "coins" containing the abbrevations of the coins you wish to track.
Autoupdates every 5 minutes.

>>319011

Soon as someone fills my buy order on swisscex for pnd/doge, I will be with ya pndbro

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.msg6565167#msg6565167

>>319136
exciting news! can't wait

>>319136

hopefully miners will enjoy~

>>319136
>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.msg6565167#msg6565167

>>319136
Annual interest of 2.3%, so total supply increases by 2.3% per year. Is PND unique to mix permanently increasing supply with PoS or do other PoS do this too?

Official statement regarding switching from PoW to PoS, specifications and release date out

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.msg6565167#msg6565167

>>319165
*2.5% and no.

>>319169
*no PND is not unique doing this type inflation.

>>318898
>>319136
>>319150
>:)

>>319170
>*no PND is not unique doing this type inflation.
With PoS I assume. Thinking about it, it seems like this type of inflation works best for PoS since it doesn't punish people for not mining, but still keeps the available coin supply somewhat constant (replacing lost, missing coins).

>>319173
received :^)

>>319180
Yes.

How high do you guys think PND will reach?

>>319232
Yes.

>>319232
5 sat, unless something crazy happens like the Chinese housing bubble collapse causing people to go insane investing in altcoins.

>>319232
High as this guys

>>319232
Each PND will have the price of 0.1337 DOGE in the exchanges exactly 77 days from now.

Have you guys read about ripple yet?

I think we're all in some trouble. What if all banks just start using ripple for transactions? Then all the alt coins and maybe even bitcoin will become useless. Only useful for the whole decentralized no gubmint thing.

im scared ;_;

>>319136

>>319251
Wait, what about ripple?
Also why did the 1 dash update got deleted?
The post for the monashill are most off-topic and advertising than that.

>>319269

Read this
>>319153

>>319251
>>319275
Stuff like this is why I feel PND should go fully anonymous like Anoncoin is doing. Because there is no way a corporate/government backed digital currency will ever adopt those features, and so the coins will still have this as a valuable feature.

>>319275
Damn you Ripple!

>>319290
I support this, but as someone else already mentioned a simpler option to start with would probably be implementing Darksend (after it is actually open source, will happen soon)

>>319299
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=467857.0
>Darksend uses a pool of transactions
Is this like a coin mixer (laundering software)?
Because then it is not really anonymous since you can analyze changes in wallet balances.
But maybe something like zerocoin is impossible with PoS, I don't know enough about this stuff (time to research!).

Bye.

>>319318
Sweet dreams.

>>319318
Bonne nuit.

will directly mining PND fror these 15 days yield more PNDs as opposed to mining from the multipool

>What will the maximum number of Pandacoins (PND) be?
>Not fixed nor limited when we switch over to PoS. The 100,000,000,000 Pandacoin (PND) coin cap from PoW stage would no longer be relevant since we are switching to PoS.

So the network will produce more than 100 billion coins?

>>319232
21 million btc per pnd.

>>319476
Hypothetically yes.

But if you do the maths with the 2.5% nominal interest rate at the new 32 billion coin cap, it takes 10 years for PND to hit 41 billion coins.

It takes 47 years before it hits over 100 billion coins.

I think it's designed to work similar to fiat currency to deal with inflation with the 2.5% rate

>>319476
see >>319136

>>319487

thats where the point is from, its not elaborated much upon there

>>319486 explains it well though

>>319232

i honestly think it will reach 10 satoshi, simply due to the hashrate of direct miners will get added to the multipool

its enough to get us back to our former glory of 10 satoshis

>>319232
Anyone's guess really. The dev team recently took on a Chinese person living in China to market it there. If the Chinese are hungry for crypto, which they are (see fiatleak.com) even though on an official front they are trying to ban it, the price of PND is anyone's guess.

With the talks of maybe adding Darksend to PND to help adoption to counter that great-chinese-firewall, we're moving in the right direction imo.

Someone in the bitcointhread gave a summary of why the Chinese are ready for crypto, copypasta -

"re: chinese thinking twice with dealing with crypto, this is the situation in china. government on official front is putting a stop to it, however look at fiatleak.com and you see that china is buying btc rapidly still.

why? with growing wealth of chinese bourgeois class, many are starting to be aware of impending economic recession in china. tell tale signs inc:

-chinse gov manipulation of yuan. 12% gdp growth is bs 10 years in a row
-chinese real estate bubble similar to u.s americans situation in 2007

china now is simiar to u.s situation in 2008 with potential fiat problem. i feel china is ready to adopt crypto to deal with yuan crashing, thats why i buy some pnd pandacoin."

>>319514
>Darksend

elaborate

>>319517
http://darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkSendDocumentation.pdf

Excerpt from Darkcoin thread -

"But that's not the good part. Evan Duffield, our developer, has created an anonymous wallet. Not with a mixing service or TOR no, this is called DarkSend and it hides the address FROM THE WALLET. The blockchain will not contain your wallet address but a throw-away address that is untraceable. Even the coins are difficult to follow, using an implementation of coinjoin. It's a simple yet effective solution. Simplicity = much harder to crack. As Einstein said, the solution should be as simple as possible but no simpler""

>>319519

doesnt PND already hide the address of the sender?

>>319519
>>319521
As I have said before >>319314
unless the blockchain is encrypted ala something like zerocoin, anonymity is thwarted via careful analysis of wallet balances.
You would have to use multiple wallets to avoid this, which would be a pain.

>>319526
>You would have to use multiple wallets to avoid this, which would be a pain.

i see

Speak of the devil, PND-chinese just posted a chinese version of the pos annoucement in the thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.msg6568110#msg6568110

Interesting if we get more Chinese onboard this train

>>319526
What solution would be good to get total anonymity then? I guess Darksend could be a step forward in the right direction

>>319526
how would you know wallet balances without knowing the addresses?

>>319542
I dunno, zerocoin apparently allows this I believe.

>>318213
whats going on guys!? you give advice to mine, recommend a good graphics card. I'm averaging 260kh/s and I'm receiving payouts of $0.01 ?

I'm mining in the PND/DOGE multipool

>>319547
>whats going on guys!?

PND will go fully POS in approx. 15 days

>>319549
So I should start mining PND exclusively?

>>319547
i actually don't know, i've had the same question but never really asked.

I'm assuming you mean the multipool shows you having a much lower hashrate than your miner shows.

>>319552

i believe that would be the most profitable course of action because directly mining PND will end in 15 days

So all the hashrate in the official pools and solo mining will be directed towards the multipool instantly increasing PND buying and hence its value

>>319019
Thanks, I'll check it out.

>>319514
>>319517
>>319519
>>319521
>>319526
Guys I HIGHLY advice having this conversation in the offical thread. So that we have any sort of permanence of this.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.380

This is of extreme interest if we are to ship PND in Asia/China, where there is currently a crackdown on cryptos.
Coinmixing (or anything) for anonymous balances, and Tor for hiding the fact that you even run a wallet. It's even more critical with PoS, as you need to have it always open.

Think about it this was: if the US govt. was to ban cryptos, how would I hide from the NSA? Be practical about this!

(I can't read through the links becaus I'm at work now, and this is one of the reasons that this conversation need to be less transient)

how long should a worker password be?

>>319596
The worker passwords don't matter, as somebody knowing your password con only mine more coins for YOU.
On the pnd/doge multipool, the password should be used as a username for statistics.

>>319594
Agreed we should take it to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.380 due to permanence of the discussion and bumping the thread to the top for maximum exposure.

Do it to build hype for PoS

>>319554
No the multipool shows the same hash rate if not a little higher. I really don't get why the payout is so low based on the hype and recommendations made for people to invest in mining equipment.

>>319610
How much was the payout for 24h?

>>319610
The time to invest in mining was November last year. Right now it's a terrible idea with the scrypt ASICs. Back then you could easily make 0.01 BTC/MHs/day. Now it's maybe 0.0035 which means effectively $0.45/day at 260 kH/s

>>319616

is the new PND logo availabe as .ico ?

>>319629
http://bamboohouse.info/favicon.ico

>>319631

awesome

http://www.dogeweather.com/

PND gets their first charity initiative http://pnd4pnd.com/

It is a unique concept in that all donations made now will be held and only released to the chosen charity organisations until June 1st, 2015.

The charity wallet will be on a transparent and public address, managed by the Pandacoin (PND) development team.

>>319631
>>319633

its very pixelated

>>319647

pic without selection

>>319647
Try http://git.bamboohouse.info/pandacoin-official/pandacoin/raw/release/share/pixmaps/bitcoin.ico

>>319650

>>319646
Fucking sent, the timing thing is a great idea.

>>319656
Credit does not go to me. I only found out about it through the grapevines.

It was made by someone with the alias of 'brolong' from the irc channel - #pandacoinpnd at freenode.net

>>319611
In the hundres of Doge range

>>319612
So are there any options or do I just quit mining?

>>319665
>So are there any options
Mine the right coin, the one that you think will be performing well in the future.

>>319646

donated for the first time using any cryptocurrency

feels gud

is this posteed on the bct thread?

>>319666
Why are these threads advocating mining, giving advice to invest $400 in equipment and then it turns out to be BS and the payouts are 0.1% ROI.

I take responsibility for making those purchases. But fuck me guys, why are you hyping it like that

>>319665
>So are there any options or do I just quit mining?

try switching to mining PND, in 15 days you will not be able o mine it anymore and the value is gonna go up cause it will be fully POS

>>319671
>payouts
>ROI
You got the essence of crpytos wrong. There is no instant or hidden bonus you will be receiving simply by mining it right now. It's about building up and thinking forward.

>>319669
Yeah it is there, we should try to have a bit of a presence over at the bitcointalk thread to bump it up to first page for more exposure and converting more pandas

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.580

>>319671
If you're playing it too safe you don't have much of a chance of a timely ROI. You have to mine the right coin and hold, then sell at the right time, otherwise you won't be getting anything past $1-$2/MHash/day in this market. Mining PND when it was at 8-10 satoshi was incredibly profitable in retrospect and it's probably going to go up further, so I'm still mining at the multipool.

>>319646
>http://pnd4pnd.com/

Woah! That is awesome... I think I'll donate to Chengdu.

>>319684

i did the same thing

gotta save them pandas at their source

>>319684
>>319685
That's what I did too.
I thought that maybe wwf would be great publicity (because it's universally known), but hey.

There's a bug with 1# and the BitcoinTalk Panel will leak memory. I cannot fix it right now (am at work). It's safe to use, but refresh the page every couple of hours, or it will stale your browser. Sorry for that!

>>319708

Mm you're right, WWF might be good aswell regarding publicity. The PND4PND charity has to be noticed, can we notify Coindesk or some other coin news site?

>>319716
Good thing you can donate to both (or all four of them xD)

>>319718

Weeeeee

>>319646
You know these charities don't do jack shit except lower the price of the crypto when they're exchanged for fiat, right?

how much is doge coin worth now?

>>319759
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/cryptsy/dogebtc

>>319760
oh.

I only have like a 1000 from when they first came out

Instead of converting to fiat, can we maybe get in touch with the charities, help them setup and pnd wallet, so donations to pnd4pnd will go directly to the charity, and then it's up them if they want to exchange for fiat.

I feel that's more productive for the growth of PND, and who knows, maybe some charities will decide to hold some pnd for the long run as an investment, and if that pays off, the PND community will be getting way more press in the future than a one time cash donation.

>>319771
Good idea.

anyone wanwan serious sam complete or fallout 3 goty (steam of course) for PND?

>>319752

good thing we have a multipool then

>>319771

idk charities are always in need of money , i doubt any charity would hold any amount of crypto

its too risky for them to risk money they have at hand

Any value PND might "lose" from a charity exchanging, will be made up for twice by the publicity made on it. Maybe.

>>319708

can you make the wallet address and balance of the faucet visible in 1dash.net faucet

>>319804
Yeah, it's on the list.
But it's just lots and lots of small little thigs that really add up.
But since you asked, I'll try to do it tonight or tomorrow night.

>>319808
>But since you asked, I'll try to do it tonight or tomorrow night.

take your own time

>>319810
I can't there's too much to do! I just can't stop coding! lol

>>319819
HOLY SHIT

34 ltc buy

>>319819

I hope everyone has their train ticket~

>>319821
This time no one should be able to complain. That's something.

>>319822

you know someone will

>>319820

check mintpal, plenty of buys at 40+

>>319825

>>319820

it wont necessarily go down at that price

only if you get lucky maybe it will drop to that level and rise back

>>319822
>This time no one should be able to complain

if only it was that simple

>>319827

inb4 another laptop

>>319825
>>319828

he was talking about the volume

exciting times are ahead of us

>>319832

wanna fuck? i.e. buy a steam game off me~?

>>319832

34 LTC !!!!!


thats almost 1 btc

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/31/5248762/doge-meme-rescue-dog-wow

>>319594
Guys I HIGHLY advice having this conversation in the offical thread. So that we have any sort of permanence of this.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.380

This.

>>319836
seconded

>>319834

which game?

i am not interested in buying , just curious what game you have to offer

>>319836

>>319594
Guys I HIGHLY advice having this conversation in the offical thread. So that we have any sort of permanence of this.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.380

Second. Need as much exposure as possible

>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.380
"Nscrypt and X11 mining will be added soon to the Pandacoin (PND) multipool!"
why has there been no mention of this in the thread? also great news
wow

>>319842
Now it does.

>>319839

these, they've been sitting in my inventory forever

>>319789

I will give away fallout 3 goty to anyone who donates a sum of PND to the multipool

new thread when

>>319849
We are still on the first page.

>>319845
>I will give away fallout 3 goty to anyone who donates a sum of PND to the multipool

i think we both are the only /v/irgins here and i am pirate master race

>>319854

:< I'll wait until the pnd market is running again and give them away then

>>319855

lol ok

Who's buying all the PND on Mintpal?

>>319857

well no one here wants em I dunno what to do, can pnd devs do contest stuff so I can donate them as prizes?

also we're on our way to beating mona~ 50k more

>>319860

i am guessing this guy >>319820

>>319868
>so I can donate them as prizes?

good idea do that

>>319872

do a pnd charity raffle amdoge~

>>319860

you can get a couple mil cheaper off swissex right now~

>>319852
>We are still on the first page.
whoops.

I never notice that because I permanently have my /biz/ catalog filtered to "doge"

>>319594
This IS the official thread.

>PND up to 47liteoshi now

>mfw I sold ALL of my shitcoins like mint, rabbits and foxes to get on the PND boat at 17.

this ride is amazing so far

One question. What is 365 Coin and why is this coin so high?

>>319911
its a scam coin that gives 365 sat per block found

it has that "rare" factor like 42coin did

>>319917
>>319917
>>319917
>>319917
>>319917

>>319911
It's completely gimmicky.

>>319835
>This Dog Was About To Die. You Won't Believe What Happened Next.

Could "journalists" simply fucking stop making that shitty type of headline.
I'm refusing to read any article with a headline like that.