/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>30444310

>>30444310
If they know what we should be paying in taxes, why do we have to do the math and file a report?

>>30444310
come get it

>>30444729
Saves them the man power, or rather they're full of shit.

>>30444729
Have you ever done taxes before?
You report your own taxes.
This is just to fuck people that don't.

>>30444944
How does it save them man power if they investigate you anyway?

>>30444961
Are you retarded? You don't tell them how much you owe, they already know. You're just trying to play pin the tail on the donkey and hope you guess the right number so they don't send you to jail. You've just never heard anything from them about any issues because 99% of Americans don't make enough money for them to give a fuck about.

>>30444729
>never do taxes
>IRS audits you
>tells you what you owe
>charges some interest or a fine or something
>probably less than what you would pay for turbotax or some other kike service every year
>even if it's more, the hours of your life you save not filling out tax paperwork are priceless so it's still worth it
Give it to me straight /biz/. Literally what is wrong with my plan?

>>30444310
Well that's it, now I have to sell.

>>30444310
Just pay your taxes. When money is this easy to make it's no sweat. Yall are just greedy, but it's really not worth the risk of a felony.

>>30445081
No you dribbling mong, you report any income that isn't neatly compiled for you by either your employer or brokerage. Anyone that runs their own business or has made any serious gains knows how to do this correctly.

>>30445113
>IRS audits you
>a time-saving measure
Pick one and only one

>>30445168
>just comply with an objectively evil government teeming with pedophiles

'no'

It's a good thing you never plan on cashing out on an exchange, right anon?

>>30445113
>>tells you what you owe
Doesn't work like this anon. They don't tell you what you owe. They make up a number at least 5 to 10 times higher than what you owe. The onus is now on you to prove that you DON'T owe as much as they say. Who decides if your proof is sufficient? Why, the IRS of course.

Seriously, and I can't emphasize this enough, just file and pay the fucking taxes. It sucks, but you will never win tangoing with the IRS.

>>30445738
imagine if literally everyone decided not to pay taxes.

>just lay down and surrender

imagine if every time the tax man tries to pull something like this we hanged a few politicians and executed IRS workers in the streets

imagine if you realize the power is within you to stop this nonsense once and for all but you all lack conviction

>>30445805
>imagine if literally everyone decided not to pay taxes.
That would be great, but it's never going to happen. Go ahead and be the one who sticks their neck out, but don't be surprised when your head is fucking lopped off.

t. 40 year old boomer who has gotten ass fucked without lube by the irs multiple times.

>>30445908
youre just not being smart about it. Im not talking about protesting or sticking your neck out. Im saying, just fucking find out where they live and kill them. Its that easy. Its how they got rid of overtaxing oligarchs in the french revolution.

Why cant people realize its that easy? Just. Fucking. Kill. Them

>>30445805
I agree with you. In a perfect world, I'd be okay with reasonable taxes, but as an American, our taxes go to bullshit and other things that actively make our lives worse. Not the mention the fed can just print another 1.9 trillion dollars out of thin fucking air. We live in a weirdly structured house of cards.

>>30445805
>"what if everyone stopped paying taxes"
the people who pay the lion's share of the taxes have the most staked on the continued existence of government, you retard

>>30445979
That's all you, Special Agent Hernandez, I'm going to be following the letter of the law and am against all forms of violence and/or advocating any illegal acts.

>>30445979
Are you gonna start the revolution or just talk theory?

Wow that’s rad, I guess you could say I don’t give a fuck

>>30444310
>These transactions are not anonymous. We see you.

>>30445738
The IRS is unconstitutional.

>>30445805
>>30445979
Dangerously Based posts, Godspeed anon

>>30445979
>Just. Fucking. Kill. Them

Lead the way, buddy.

>>30445738
>just surrender goy

blow your fucking brains out

Nice wordplay, irs. We know they aren’t anonymous; it’s called a public ledger for a reason.

Thanks now let me buy some fucking monero you fucking shorter nigger

I dont have to pay taxes if i dont sell right

>>30445805
Will never happen, Americans are all cowards. Every single, last one.

>>30445805
Eventually that will happen. read a book called the death of money. It's about weimar republic. Eventaully everyone did stop paying there taxes and bankers high ranking politicians etc were car bombed and shot in the streets.

>>30446394
I own nice things that I have worked really, really hard to get. Businesses. Bank accounts. Cars. Stock portfolios, multiple pieces of real estate. I don't want them taken away from me in a tax sale. When you move out of your mom's basement, you'll understand.

>>30446448
Have u ever traded? Cause if you have

>>30444310
dr;np

so if I buy MMO gold with bitcoin, does that mean I owe taxes?

>>30446733
Trading on the ironforge auction house is a taxable event, cattle!

>>30446484
I live in Portugal after accumulating an 8 figure portfolio. Im about to buy a villa in the Riviera and im currently learning how to drive so i can buy a GTR (never learned how to drive in my moms basement). Life is free here. I do not live in fear that everything can be taken away because of some numbers.

The biggest trick the government has pulled on americans is the deception that they provide you security and in return you must let yourself be vulnerable to them. I can tell you right now in my 5k a month apartment in Lisbon that you can eat your cake and have it too

>>30446862
Life is better in many other places than the US.

>>30446862
The government doesn't provide me shit. The government is an organized crime syndicate that will break my fucking kneecaps if I don't pay the protection money. Well guess what? I like my kneecaps.

>>30446922
tfw too low a net worth to leave. Fuck.

>>30444729
It's unironically because H&R Block and Turbo Tax bribe politicians
Plenty of European countries just send you your taxes automically and then allow you to dispute it

Lol, these jews are fucking broke. They can't afford to enforce this, just hide until they blow up their own currency.

>>30444972
same reason they say spooky shit like "we see you": they're full of shit and want to scare you and they won't investigate literally everyone, but will probably make examples out of a few people

>>30446448
>I dont have to pay taxes if i dont sell right

all events are taxable

buy
sell
trade

>>30446198
>b-but muh piece of paper

Our ancestors threw the most powerful military on earth right the fuck off the continent for raising taxes on tea by a penny. If we burgers still had any balls we would be dragging these faggots avatars to the nearest lava pit in minecraft.

>>30447460
How is buying a taxable event? It affects your cost basis but you don't pay a consumption tax.

>>30446862
Do you perhaps want a Canadian citenship? marry me mate. I fucking love portugal

>>30447139
This, I can't make gains because of taxes. Only have 1500ish right now and cant grow without eating taxes like a bitch. I hate this country and I want it to die but it looks like hyperinflation isn't going to happen. Fugg.

>>30445081
They don't know how many business miles I drove or my other expenses until i fucking tell them.

>>30447621
But if you don't pay taxes then how will pablo and jamal get their welfare? And how would we pay for mudslime bombings?

>>30447621
>If we burgers still had any balls
We don't, that's the problem. Look at the combat veterans we have walking around sucking civnat politician dick like its going out of style. The smartest thing the US did was sell the "soldiers are heroes!" meme after they realized angry Vietnam vets joined anti-gov militias. This country has no future unless you are already wealthy.

>>30448153
>civnat politician
Nationalist politicians? Who?

>>30445805
When I get audited, I seat the IRS agents directly over my rancor pit.

>>30445979
>Why cant people realize its that easy? Just. Fucking. Kill. Them
I've been saying the same thing on other threads. Unfortunately the government has ways of shutting down movements very quickly due to the way they manipulate soft power. Nothing will ever happen because everyone is too afraid to do shit.

>>30445979

>>30448228
Faggots like Crenshaw and Trump. Milfags suck their dicks so hard, they'll never revolt.

>>30447460
Buying is not a taxable event.
Holding is not a taxable event.

>>30448415
True, but unfortunately the US is working on legislation to tax unrealized gains. Fuck the US.

>>30444729
I'll give you a hint: the rich don't do their own taxes.

>tfw your government is too boomer retarded to know what the "bit coin" is, yet alone audit it
Feels good

>>30448497
This is what happens when demoshits get power.

IRS boomers probably think bitcoins are physically stored inside the wallet
literally just keep the seed phrase for your cold wallet buried somewhere and if you make is skip country and renounce citizenship
there is no capitol controls they can use to stop you

OH NO MY WALLET GOT HACKED. I JUST LOST ALL OF MY CRYPTO. AND THE FUCKER LOOKS LIKE HE MOVED ALL OF IT TO A MONERO WALLET.

fml i guess i'll just write off the losses on my taxes. :'-(

>>30449135
make it not is**

>>30449167
this also happened to me
i was in a boating accident and all my funds were lost by sending them to the wrong address
my losses are infinite and must be deducted from my taxes

>>30445805
oi oi

>>30445805
>imagine if christians will stop rendering unto Caesar.

haha. you funny goy.

What a shame the IRS will have no white people in their department to actually do any meaningful investingations in the next 5 years

>>30448987
You're a faggot. Republicucks sold this country out for cheap labour so they and their factory owning buddies could make billions on labour costs, just like the demofags. Your mindset is the exact reason voting in this country is pointless. I hate people like you so much. In the past 5 years I have grown to hate fake-ass right wing conservatives more than leftist filth by miles. Fuck you.

>>30448987
good job you guys voted for them afterall enjoy

-HIGHERS TAXES
-NO OIL JOBS
-CRYPTO TAXED
-CHINESE TAKEOVER

>>30447621
how bad will it have to get to get to that point

>>30449524
It never will. Racially diverse societies, especially ones with mass immigration where there is no cultural assimilation, do not revolt. These societies suffer infighting until they collapse and then limp on as broken, mulatto shitholes forever.

>See: Brazil, Russia, Mexico, India, etc

>>30447621
>muh brave ancestors
>u.uh.h.h in "minecraft" of course

>>30444310

>>30449926
you can add Ancient Rome to that list too. Even as someone who knows fuckall about history, the Western Roman Empire's gradual zombifcation is eerily similar to whats going on here in regards to city life, taxes, currency debasement and the military.

>>30449434
lol go kys you fucking blue voting faggot

>>30449926
the US is not diverse. it's highly segregated geographically and getting more so all the time. almost every single shitskin is concentrated in a dozen large cities and will starve to death without the white mans charity.

>>30449926
>>30450204
>brown people bad

You should try memeing not paying taxes on twitter and turn it into a black thing so normies jump on it so can make hide in the crowd of people getting audited and take the heat off crypto.

>>30444729
Idk, I stiffed the IRS for about $20K 10 years ago, then went underground and worked under the table + cash only home business + scamming welfare programs and I made damn good money when you add it all up. I just filed for the first time in 10 years and got my full refund, so I guess they wrote it off. Fuck IRS niggers, come and take it bitches.

>>30450249
N

>>30444310
>have been reporting my crypto shit through importing Coinbase records into Turbotax like a good boy
>second year in a row that I get a tax break for capital loss
>all the money I lost during rona will keep giving me returns from capital loss for years to come

>>30447214
This is true, lots of good podcasts cover why we have to file taxes unlike much of the world.

Fuck intuit

>>30445113
>>probably less than what you would pay for turbotax or some other kike service every year
lol

>>30450249
Yes

>>30449365
Nice out of context verse. Jesus actually said the opposite of what you’re implying.

>>30450249
>he thinks I don't want to burn alive cops, trumpniggers, and christkykes
>he thinks I don't want to burn him alive too
People like you better pray the west doesn't collapse.

>>30450249
lol shut up faggot

Sorry, government has shown its incompetent in all things, dont fucking care anymore.

>>30444729
Turbotax and friends lobbied the government to prevent this. In the 90's the IRS actually pushed for what you suggest, the only thing they ever did right.

>>30444310
operation hidden trash because thats what it'll be if they go through with this

>>30445805
You don't need to pay any taxes. That's why money printer go brrr

>>30450490
>t. Seething leftist s o y beard.

>>30450600
I think you mean fanatic right wing eco-fascist, you fat piece of shit

>>30450389
dumb frogposting linky

>>30450490
You will never be a real man

>>30449434
>Republicans sold this country out for cheap labour
>which is why when Trump wanted to do something about it I called him a xenophobe Hitler 2.0 and complained about his anti-immigration, anti-China policies
????

>>30450701
>Trumpenstein did nothing for four years and fucked over the white man at every turn
>>30450657
You can swing right next to gashfags

>>30450249

>>30445805
taxes get taken directly from your paycheck before you have a chance to not pay them. yeah, you could claim some large number on your W-4 and have less withheld but you're still paying, it won't be zero. so you'd need to get everyone to actively change their withholdings instead of passively not pay taxes. never gonna happen.

>>30450249
Brown people need whites more than we need then, that’s a cold hard truth

>>30445908
Sorry, I got rugpulled. Go find the owner of Surf.finance if you want my money.

>>30444729
Some countries provide the tax report prefilled. America decided not to prefill it because they want to check if people is too far off what it should be.

>>30444729
Most first world countries have a projected income that they'll default to if nothing is reported, but they may over/under-estimate it and then you're stuck waiting for the annual refund or waiting to be slapped with a bill for what they shot under.

With the nickle and dime shoestring economy so many have that means having to set up payment plans, defaulting and other crap.

>>30446484
All of those will be taken from you by force in the next decade.

Wait, you thought you got to OWN things after a communist coup? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>30450780
So you voted for him?
Or you're just using your enemy's dialectics against them because you have nothing of substance from your own?

>>30445805
Absolute retard take.
Us folks in high tax brackets need government to keep the status quo.
The anarchist society you are plotting just brings uncertainty to people who actually pay the bulk of taxes.

>>30450249
Why does this trigger you retards so much lmao

>>30450899
False, brown people were doing perfectly fine living in a perfect balance with nature before whites showed to enslave and exploit them

Isn’t it hilariously ironic how almost every seething right wingers dream is to live on some farm by themselves in the middle of nowhere, far from any remnant of civilization, where they are free to fish/farm and live off the land?

THIS is what you took from yourselves lmao

>>30451066
dangerously based and checked

>>30450701
Naw was just a prank, all figures are controlled.

>>30450937
Most first world countries know exactly what you earn. What your wages are, what your capital gains are, what goes in and out of your bank account and so on. They know just as much as you do and it requires no manual work. They could prefill the taxes for you, many first world countries do exactly that.

>>30451190
>4 years of constant obstructionism + mindless and unfiltered negative sentiment against your own president
>nah bro the game is stacked, nothing ever changes
Americans are retards lmao

>>30444310
It's obvious some alphabet agency would run an operation on tax dodgers, especially when the blockchain ledger for most coins are public and visible to everyone. Idiots who don't know the technology they're investing in don't realize that. With an indexer and enough digging, your wallet address can be tied to you. Because of how crypto can be transacted to .000...0001, an indexer could match exact amounts in wallets and transactions. All they need is a trail of specific numbers to match you with your wallets.

>>30447139
Why else do you think we're taxed to the brim? Can't leave if you're stuck here poor... so go on, wageslave forever to pay taxes for The G Man. Remember, the least "free" countries are the ones who boast their freedom. I'm stuck here as well.

>>30450186
He’s fucking right. Old money ivy leauge faggots run the government through both parties, and they know they agree on everything that actually matters, ie. the slavery and control of every citizen, white black or otherwise.

>>30451323
So why not EO his goals? Why pardon nigger rappers and j*wish slave drivers? Why spend so much energy helping *srael?

>>30450186
>blue voting faggot
lmfao you boomers are so trapped in the democracy binary. I would hang them all right next to you.

>>30451211
Almost, they have to ask for permission to view your wage records, but with digitalization (at least here) you can literally log onto you tax service, enter a digital keys and allow them to draw data from your bank to prefill it to ~90%.

A few stumbling blocks is you're going between welfare/student aid/wages in the same years due to mandatory gaps and shit, but it's honestly on the low end.

>>30451323
We're not just retarded, we're indoctrinated.

>>30446456
>>30448153
>>30449926
>>30450490
>>30450646
Most based man in this thread

I would read your book

>>30446963
at least you finally admitted youre a sniveling coward, took quite a few posts though

>>30450490

lol you sound like an angry little faggot

>>30450389
I

Fuck you IRS I will never pay you a cent.

You and your federal cronies let niggers rampage American cities for 3 months


I’ll never pay the irs a fucking DIME

>>30451058
good

>>30452886
In fact I will be richer than the God damned IRS.

The irs tongues my anus