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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized p2p privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and borderless, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT (hidden tx amounts) ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a Monero user willingly providing a view key for a specific transaction.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptos. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of txs increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier of entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward will gradually approach 0.6 XMR in May 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.


Essential viewing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4


OFFICIAL WEBSITE - https://web.getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Binance
Kraken
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
Local Monero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
https://archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Gui/Cli (recommended)
MyMonero
Exodus
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo
NOTE: MYMONERO FOR ANDROID IS A SCAM. DO NOT DOWNLOAD ON GOOGLE PLAY.

>> No.30391861

>>30391709
If you're hiding marital assets, your biggest issue isn't your money, it's your marriage.

>> No.30391895
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>> No.30391934
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>>30391861
>implying that you didn't marry monero-chan

>> No.30392008

- news mostly about attacks, patches and delistings

- perceived as archaic and static compared to newer smart, agile and well-connected projects

- might get banned and then difficult to trade with no liquidity

- wallets not fool-proof, users of hardware wallets show up daily because they can't see their coins

- no ubiquitous ways to buy directly with fiat

- missing on important exchanges

- (relatively) high barrier of entry for 2021 batch of buyers and people unfamiliar with crypto

- not natively compatible with ETH ecosystem

- no equivalent to easy browser plugins (e.g. Metamask)

- Anti-Virus stops Monero wallet installations

- no major DeFi applications, locked-out of the system

- few ways to earn money & rewards

- rewards only people with beefy mining CPUs

- no staking

- no official support

- no supply deflation by incentivizing to lock-up XMR

- supply inflates forever

- hodlers get nothing and continuously pay for inflation

- network effects haven't reached critical mass

- indirect governance is difficult and incentivizes freeloading

- little incentive to build on top of XMR

- other projects have far greater resources

- might get tracked in the future

- privacy might get trivialized and becomes a worthless commodity

- many other projects add "good enough" privacy leaving XMR only attractive for marginal groups

- some DeFi protocol with a pool and stablecoin might offer seamless privacy and stability in DeFi ecosystem without having to jump through as many hoops as one has to do with XMR

- stigmatic reputation

- some reputable parties don't want to be associated with XMR

- big target for the government while other coins can fly under the radar

- already somewhat mature so less growth rate to be expected

- less price action means less attention

- age of coins with just one feature + chain might be over

- perpetual downtrend against BTC discourages hodling

>> No.30392026
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>>30391709
Monero is what Bitcoin was in 2013. If you're not accumulating you're not going to make it.

>> No.30392058

>>30392008
- community encourages only to buy when people have a reason to dump/sell it right away

- investors are dumping in favor of BTC and DeFi which have monster momentum

- possibly giga-whales perpetually dumping

- uncertainty about supply bugs

- inefficiency in initial mining exploited

- parts of the code are weak and have never been properly audited (e.g. P2P stack)

- during attacks simple people had a bad user experience and nothing worked

- possible crackdown by governments and central banks on whole crypto space with uncertain outcome for XMR

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>>30392008
Thanks, just bought more.

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>>30392008

MoneroChad detected.

>> No.30392370
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I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE TECH I ONLY HERE FOR THE MONEY. WHEN WILL THIS SHITCOIN MOON?

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>>30392370

Monero moons in slow-motion.

>> No.30392458

>>30392370
It will moon when people start caring about the tech. That means darknet use driving clearnet adoption, expansion of localmonero in person stuff, etc., or possibly Biden going full retard on crypto and forcing everyone to flee to privacy coins.

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30392678

I only have experience with boomer rocks, how do I put the money in the blockchain thing

>> No.30392700

>>30392370
we are one retarded celebrity tweet away from a 10x (elon musk)

>> No.30392748

>>30392458
So, we're betting on biden going full retarded on crypto?

Really?

>> No.30392871

>>30392700
>we are one retarded celebrity tweet away from a 10x (elon musk)
I'm not sure I want the Reddit crowd and pure speculators coming to XMR as if it was a rollercoaster to ride.

>> No.30392977

>>30392871
The current issue with Monero is awareness among retards. Once some idiot celebrity like elon musk talks about it there will be tons of people coming in and a significant portion of them will stay after finding out that it's the only nonshitcoin in crypto

>> No.30393020

>>30392748
In the long-term, the probability that governments ban privacy crypto is high IMO.
They will say that it's for preventing pedos and terrorists from operating, but in truth it will be because they can't trace it (spy on corporations and people) and tax it (make revenue off of it).

They have no incentive to let it be legal.
Regular crypto on the other hand, like XBT, it's so non-fungible that they might love it. They can see without even asking you if you paid the taxes on this transaction 10 years ago.
Haven't a lot of American exchanges already banned XMR because they cannot abide with the KYC laws with privacy tokens?

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>>30392871
>pure speculators coming to XMR as if it was a rollercoaster to ride.

Those are inevitable at some point, likely after it becomes apparent that organized crime adoption is going to make XMR the next Bitcoin. More fuel for the Mars mission, I guess.

>> No.30393090

>>30391709
hey bud, the tag line would be better if it was secure, decentralized, untraceable. right now it's a redundancy cause private and untraceable are more or less the same in this context

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Were going down 0.0034 BTC per is the bottom. Currently at 0.0040 be a good time to buy.

>> No.30393111

>>30393020
What is Kraken

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>>30393090
>hey bud, the tag line would be better if it was secure, decentralized, untraceable. right now it's a redundancy cause private and untraceable are more or less the same in this context

Well, that's what is used on the official Monero site.

>Home | Monero - secure, private, untraceable

>> No.30393309

Is Bisq safe?

>> No.30393368

What's the cheapest way to exchange my litecoins into moneros?

>> No.30393398

>>30392678
>I only have experience with boomer rocks, how do I put the money in the blockchain thing
buy on exchange, withdraw to wallet. see op post

>> No.30393428

>>30393020
one does not simply ban an anywhere-accessible, non-traceable currency globally. how would it even be done? and for this to be done, monero would have to have enough users that it would have mooned to begin with

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>>30393153
huh, could've sworn it was the ither way around.

>> No.30393597

>>30393368
sideshift.ai has low fees, it's listed on kycnot.me and i've used it personally to exchange LTC to XMR, can testify that it's good.

>> No.30393630

Example of how bitcoin was seen around 2010.

>> No.30393687

>>30392370
Heyyyyooo this is the new bitcoin which didin’t moon in 10 years.

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>>30393597
Stupid question, what prevents those with blacklisted or surveilled BTC wallets from using SideShift.ai as an AtomicSwap equivalent and just switch their money to XMR, thus laundering it?

What would proper AtomicSwap technology give to XMR that SideShift does not?

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Moonboys need not apply, you faggots need a containment board of your own. Reporting in with an unknown amount.

>> No.30394300

>>30394159
kek, you win bro gg

>> No.30394315

>>30394129
Make it trustless.
Sideshift can one day cuck out and block those addresses or just steal your money.

>> No.30394438

>>30394129
Proper atomic swaps only take away the need for a middleman, escrow or trust.
Those need to have a reputation and can be tracked and shut-down by authorities. Atomic swaps is pure crypto and mathematics, you cannot shut it down.

From a laundering perspective, your bitcoins are still tainted if they come from a known tainted address.

ATM the transactions on the btc chain have a signature, so they can be flagged like they can flag mixing accounts. This might improve in the future with script changes or if a L2 implements pseudo-privacy.

>> No.30394536

>>30394129
This has been done before. See the wannacry hackers in 2017. However nowadays it's way more difficult and that's why atomic swaps is needed.

>> No.30394587

>>30392370
Years

>> No.30394603

>>30392370

I hope it doesn't moon and keeps crabbing for the time being. Gives me a chance to buy more.

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>>30392444
trips of truth, slow moon to mars

>> No.30394690

>>30393597
Alright thanks. Regarding localmonero, what guarantee do I have that the other party won't just run away with my money? Seems kinda risky.

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>>30394690
>Regarding localmonero, what guarantee do I have that the other party won't just run away with my money?
Read the FAQ senpai.

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I unironically want tainted bitcoins where can I get it?

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>>30394936
>I unironically want tainted bitcoins where can I get it?

Contact the people on the OFAC blacklist.

>> No.30395073

>>30394936
Buy cryptos that the government put in auction after seizing them from a caught criminal.

>>30394996
Why do people keep posting that list as if it was a big deal? I looked at it and there is like five people in total with banned BTC addressed.

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>>30395073
>Why do people keep posting that list as if it was a big deal? I looked at it and there is like five people in total with banned BTC addressed.

It's probably the fact that governmental censoring of Bitcoin is possible in the first place. Soon it will be 10 people. Then 50. Then 100.....and the whole time we'll keep getting told how the magical privacy fix is JUST around the corner.

>> No.30395241

>>30395073
>I looked at it and there is like five people in total with banned BTC addressed.
You have to start small to introduce a new regulation without too much backlash, and then you expand its use.
First ISIS, then pedos, then druggies, then the average Joe trying to hide his wealth from a government imposing inflated fiat with violence.

>> No.30395258

>>30391934
HNNNNNNNNGGGG

>> No.30395439

>>30392678
Hello my fellow PM bro. Pretty much everything you need is in https://web.getmonero.org and the OP.

I would firstly get secure wallet software, download the CLI or GUI from getmonero, make a wallet in there, then choose where to buy your coins.

As you probably doint have any other cryptos your only non-kyc choice will be localmonero, but if you dont mind giving out personal info (sort of a non-issue given you're getting XMR) then there's a list of exchanges in the op.

Some sites let you buy PMs with crypto, I know this one accepts XMR: https://www.celticgold.eu/en/

If you have any other questions please ask!!

>> No.30395562

>>30391934
i would literally kill her by tearing out her ut*rus with my c*ck

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>>30392008

>> No.30396254

>>30392370
XMR isn't a good moon hold. You just return your long term holdings to it when you pull profit from your swing trading.

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>>30396254
this
darknet use guarantees the coin won't ever go to 0 so it's there to park your wealth

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>> No.30396887

>$250 stablecoin
>$220 stablecoin
>$200 stablecoin
YOU ARE HERE
>$150 stablecoin
>$100 stablecoin

>> No.30396941

>>30396887
shoooh pajeet

>> No.30396957

>>30396887

more like $208 stablecoin

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>> No.30397451

>>30396887
Also the inflation bug

>> No.30397614
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>>30397451
>Also the inflation bug

Ancient FUD. You can verify the integrity of the supply by:

>Summing up all the coinbase outputs, which are unmasked (i.e. in the clear). Pic related.
>Verifying the underlying cryptography (mathematics) of the confidential amounts implementation.
>Verifying the correctness of the implementation in the code.

Those essentially guarantee that the supply has not been maliciously inflated (i.e. unintended inflation has occurred). Note that a similar procedure has to be followed for transparent chains. Furthermore, a hypothetical inflation bug can go unnoticed even on a transparent chain.

https://www.coindesk.com/the-latest-bitcoin-bug-was-so-bad-developers-kept-its-full-details-a-secret

>> No.30397647

>>30396654
Kek the holden monaro

>> No.30397734
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Guys help me out.
If I were to use a compromised computer and unlock my monero wallet with my passoword and ledger nano s, would my assets somehow be in danger?
Not the right board but: would my keepass database be in danger as well?

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>>30396654
>>30397647
I want to move to Australia, just to have this car.

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>>30397867
They really dropped the ball on the 2000s series holden monaro

>> No.30398299

$TORN is better, he as all the benefits of Ethereum echo system and privacy all together

>> No.30398375

Do you pay fees from sending monero to another wallet?
If so, who does it go to?

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>>30398299
>$TORN is better, he as all the benefits of Ethereum echo system and privacy all together

.....and yet the darknet isn't adopting it.

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>>30398375
you pay a network fee thats less than a penny

>> No.30398570

>>30398375
Fees are small, ~$0.02. The fees are paid to miners. Monero is also designed so that fees will remain low even with lots of adoption, unlike BTC.

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>>30398539
BIG BOOBA

>> No.30398622

>>30398570
yeah well it's still just as harmful to the environment as bitcoin

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>>30398622
>muh environment

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>>30398622
dont care, not selling

>> No.30398667

>>30397734
Yeah no shit
If it's running a keylogger or remote access software you're fucked

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>>30398622

>> No.30398709 [DELETED] 

>>30398539
and who receives that fee?

>> No.30398749

>>30398659
>>30398662
>>30398705
literally not an argument

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>>30391861

>> No.30398759

>>30398667
the keepass is fucked, the wallet is fine

>> No.30398775

>>30392026
Being bitcoin in 2013 isn’t enough anymore though.

>> No.30398783

>>30398539
>>30398570
Any chance we'll get fee-less transactions at some point in the future?

>> No.30398798

>>30398749
I’m not disagreeing with you, I just don’t care.

>> No.30398799

>>30398709
Miners when they sign a block, same as BTC

>> No.30398810

>>30392444
*only vs fiat though

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>>30398749
lol not making an argument. do you go on almost every thread telling every person that the coin of topic is bad for the environment?

Do you stand outside the gas stations letting people know that them driving every day is bad for the environment?

>> No.30398927

>>30398749
wow never really thought about it like that. pack it up boys bitcoins cancelled.

sike, sorry your not capable of the thought experiment. the impact of this on the environment is far less than fiat currencies and far far less than pm. not to mention the ability of green energy being able to be used to power your crypto. basically your a shill or just didnt think about it the right way and i should have corrected that

>> No.30398950

>>30398783
probably not, the fees are already so small you dont even notice them. plus the miners are already getting small fees as it is.

>> No.30399071

>>30397940
With the way Holden finished up, as just rebadged GM and Opel, they're better off liquidated.

>> No.30399203

>>30398927
>not to mention the ability of green energy being able to be used to power your crypto
that energy could be used on something more necessary for easing the suffering of human life in developing countries like in Africa. having computers do work just for the sake of doing work is extremely privileged and the idea of wasting electricity on this could only be thought up by a white person. It's people like you that are why black people will want revenge when they take over. I bet you leave the tap on while you brush your teeth too.

>> No.30399246

>>30399203
>baiting this hard

>> No.30399291

>>30399203
Ya blew it. Trolling should be about 4/10 intensity, you're at about 11 right now

>> No.30399624

>>30398757
I'm a married man, and if a married person hides money from his spouse because a divorce is possible, that person is not invested in his marriage and already forego his wedding vows.

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>>30399624
>I'm a married man, and if a married person hides money from his spouse because a divorce is possible, that person is not invested in his marriage and already forego his wedding vows.

Even if you're married it's prudent to keep your finances separate. Everything can seem idyllic one day and the next you discover she's been getting dicked by your best friend.

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WHO MADE THESE PLEASE TELL ME IS THERE MORE?

>> No.30399958

>>30399752
>Even if you're married it's prudent to keep your finances separate
Then you never believed in your marriage in the first place.
You never believed in the "forever" part.
You don't have a marriage, you have a girlfriend with whom you signed a contract.

>> No.30399966

>>30397940
fatty eurobeat vibes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3is49vWMwFI

>> No.30400075

>>30391861
Very true, I think the implication is that it's time for a divorce and if you want to protect your assets then buy as much Monero as possible.

>> No.30400108

>>30399203
kek

>> No.30400261

>>30399958
>You don't have a marriage, you have a girlfriend with whom you signed a contract.
You've just described marriage. Except the contract is heavily in her favor, you're essentially giving away put options on your realtionship.

Why is the financial part so important to you? Ideally, in any relationship both partners contribute equally, wether it's be financial, chores or love for one another. And IF both partners contribute equally, you do not need a contract and you don't need mixed fincances.

>> No.30400569

>>30392678
Here's a tutorial:
https://dailystormer.su/support-the-daily-stormer-how-to-buy-and-send-monero/

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>>30392678
>>30400569
https://www.getmonero.org/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/lyx148/rmonero_weekly_discussion_march_06_2021_use_this/

much better sources of information

>> No.30400879

>>30400569
daily stormer lmao based.

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>>30391709
Nobody would want to "hide their marital assets" in MONERO which is highly unstable, when they could buy USDC and USDT stablecoins and keep them on trezor. Courts are none the wiser.

>> No.30401251

>>30399957
pls someone

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>>30398622
Not nearly as true.
Bitcoin and coins using similar algo can be mined with ASICs, that are very good at doing one job, but terrible at anything else. A single unit can eat up to 3.25 kW (Antminer S19 Pro). These are bought en-masse, there are whole datacentres of them. Once an ASIC stops being profitable, it cannot be repurposed. Pic related happens.
The environmental footprint is enormous, because it's possible to use more resources and more electricity to get more mining power. There's an active market for that.

Monero on the other hand uses RandomX. It's designed to be mined on x86 CPUs. No dedicated resources are used to manufacture mining devices. It makes it equally efficient to mine in a DC, as at home. The top CPU (Threadripper 3990X) eats 600 W, average unit used for mining is probably somewhere under 200 W. New devices can be later repurposed, old ones get second life, instead of landing in a landfill (most of electronics are not recycled, only some easily accessible metals are sometimes extracted). Mining at home contributes to heating, which removes the need to use other heating methods, 1 W used on mining, is 1 W less used on heating. A "dumb" 1 kW heater produces only 1 kW of heat, a 1 kW computer produces 1 kW of heat and computing power.

An interesting side note: if crypto and/or crypto mining gets banned (or sale heavily taxed) in some countries that host big Bitcoin miners, they will go out of business, the price of Bitcoin will drop, the miners in other countries go out of business, the price will drop… Do you see where it's going? Pic related is price dropping around November 2018 to under $4000 from over $6000 (and being on an over a year long down-trend from almost $20k in December 2017). It doesn't matter it's at $50k now, it was going down long enough to make it not profitable for many companies and make them close and trash their miners.
Monero will kept being mined at home and trading and use would just go underground.

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>>30398622
Onions get the rope...

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>>30398749
Anon...I...

>> No.30401454

>>30401242
>could buy USDC and USDT stablecoins and keep them on trezor
Until those are easily tracked and you get arrested for lying about your assets in court.

>> No.30401469

>>30399958
What are you, a 20 year old kid with nothing but ideas on how things work?

>> No.30401578

>>30401292
based Greta friend

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>>30401242
>when they could buy USDC and USDT stablecoins

.....and then your wife's lawyer hires Chainalysis to locate the secreted funds.

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>>30401454
No, they can't be "easily tracked". Courts are full of dumb boomers and dumb women with their dumb boomer lawyers would be none the wiser:
1) Send money to exchange
2) Buy BTC
3) Send BTC to wasabi wallet and wash it
4) Or send BTC to DEX or atomic swap into XMR
5) Then swap back from XMR to BTC.
6) Then send newly acquired BTC that can't be tied to you to an exchange with lax KYC
7) Transfer BTC to USDT and USDC
8) Transfer USDT and USDC to your trezor

DURRRRRR

>> No.30401711

>>30401586
> .....and then your wife's lawyer hires Chainalysis to locate the secreted funds.

Yeah, except they won't. Some dumb boomber whores with their dumb boomer lawyers don't even fucking know what ChainsAnalysis is. People are stupid. Especially ones getting divorced.

Besides, even if they do it won't find shit if you do this:
>>30401636

"Yeah I bought Bitcoin and lost it OOPS"

And this is only required if you want to protect against fluctuations in asset value.

If you don't care about that, then you can just hold BTC and be done with it. Send it to a few addresses and claim hackers got it. Easy peasy.

>> No.30401765

>>30401636
>Captura de pantalla 2021-(...).png
lmao you're the same beaner who was spamming these threads yesterday. Take a day off Fernando.

>> No.30401810

>>30400787
That post makes absolutely no sense.

There "bitcoin whales" will have no use putting their BTC in monero because Monero lacks on-ramp and off-ramp infrastructure. So they would have EVEN BIGGER PROBLEMS cashing out than they do now.

>> No.30401869

>>30401765
> lmao you're the same beaner who was spamming these threads yesterday. Take a day off Fernando.

Debunk my arguments or GTFO

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>>30401869
Mow my lawn or GTFO

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Mexican cartels are fudding Monero now? Cheap bastids.

>> No.30401999

With Australia going nearly cashless by 2024, will XMR be the cash of the future so we can keep on having tax free jobs/staff?

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>>30401999
>With Australia going nearly cashless by 2024, will XMR be the cash of the future so we can keep on having tax free jobs/staff?

The USD will become the paper currency of the underground economy like it is elsewhere in the world. XMR will be its digital equivalent.

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>>30401869
>>30401977


>>30401987
Cartels want a stable money not something that can drop 50% one day and they are left holding the bag.

Only an absolute naive motherfucker would believe cartels hodl this shit. Even if they use it, they get out of it asap and get into something way more stable (like USDT or USDC).

Think about it.

So you do the deed, get your monero.

Then quickly run that Monero via Atomic Swap/DEX and exchange with BTC.

Then exchange that BTC to a USDC/USDT stable coin.

Great, now you have a stable crypto and it can't be tied to original act, because of the privacy feature of Monero.

BUT YOU AREN'T HOLDING MONERO.

You are not exposed to volatility risk.

Cartels that deal in millions don't want fucking volatility risk. It can ruin their operations.

So in reality they are most likely holding USDT and USDC. It would make most logical sense for them.

>> No.30402167

>>30398892
>Do you stand outside the gas stations letting people know that them driving every day is bad for the environment?
This is my favorite example of lefty/statist cognitive dissonance, they apparently care so much about the environment but never talk about how the design of public infrastructure created a car centric culture where people think it's normal to drive everywhere including across the street. If road funding were voluntary they'd be designed for local traffic with way more focus on pedestrians cyclists and buses/trains.

>> No.30402210

>>30399203
>Implying they will ever take over

>> No.30402357

Do you guys look at the price much?

I don't anymore. Just buy. Max comf.

>> No.30402530

I really want a gas station hamburger right now.

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>>30402110

>Cartels want a stable money not something that can drop 50% one day and they are left holding the bag.

lol retard, in criminal parlance unpredictability is known as "the cost of doing business"

Shipping cash physically or using traditional banking both carry the risk of seizure yet cartels do it anyway because ultimately its worth it.

Crypto simplifies transactions even further, so the volatility risk is an acceptable trade-off.


>So in reality they are most likely holding USDT and USDC. It would make most logical sense for them.

You realize those funds can literally be frozen at the protocol level, right?

>Centre Freezes Ethereum Address Holding $100K USDC

"Centre, the company that issues the stablecoin USD Coin (USDC) has blacklisted an Ethereum address holding $100,000 in USDC in response to a law enforcement request. In the first of its kind, the address had a “blacklist(address investor)” function called on June 16, 2020.

Normally funds held on the Ethereum blockchain are controlled by the address owner, however, in relation to USDC, an address can be blacklisted which restricts them from executing transactions (sending or receiving) through the USDC smart contract. Although technically reversible, Circle’s website warns that blacklisted addresses may be “wholly and permanently unrecoverable."

https://cointelegraph.com/news/centre-freezes-ethereum-address-holding-100k-usdc

>> No.30402598

>>30401810
>Monero lacks on-ramp and off-ramp infrastructure
??? Bad fud?

>> No.30402676

fuck off pablo no one gives a shit about your retarded ramblings

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>>30402357
I wrote a bot that buys small amounts of XMR on its way down whenever there's a dip. Now I don't have to worry about anything anymore, I just put a part of my paycheck in the exchange and trust the plan.

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>>30402536
> lol retard, in criminal parlance unpredictability is known as "the cost of doing business"

You are using an ad hominem (not legitimate discussion tactic) at moment you call me "lol retard" which proves you are wrong.

Then you shoot yourself in foot pretending that a catch face "unpredictability is cost of doing business" can be applied in cases where there are clear alternatives that reduce this "unpredictability". Alternatives which I described clearly here: >>30402110

> Crypto simplifies transactions even further, so the volatility risk is an acceptable trade-off.

If there is an alternative which reduces risk (going into stablecoins), they will use that instead of holding your precious Monero bag.

> You realize those funds can literally be frozen at the protocol level, right?

You realise they won't, because there will be no way to actually track the USDC and USDT to the actual crime. Besides USDT has never been frozen for such purpose before.

> "Centre, the company that issues the stablecoin USD Coin (USDC) has blacklisted an Ethereum address holding $100,000 in USDC in response to a law enforcement request. In the first of its kind, the address had a “blacklist(address investor)” function called on June 16, 2020.

Yeah, ok. And USDT? Besides, if you are smart about this, they won't detect. One would just split it up and there is no real way to tell the money came from the particular XMR trade. XMR is just used as key point in chain for anonymity and then the cartels would go into safer assets. It's just basic logic one would employ to reduce volatility risk, but it's clearly not playing into your "muh cartels will buy my Monero bags" narrative so you conveniently PRETEND to not realise it.

You just owned yourself.

>> No.30402731

>>30402598
it's literally the same dumbass beaner who has been here for the last three weeks spamming threads to bump limit with absolutely moronic posts every minute then declaring himself the victor

>> No.30402781

>>30402676
just report and move on
make janny work for his paycheck

>> No.30402814

>>30402598
Monero is being removed from exchanges due to its dirty nature and lack of KYC.

Bitstamp and Coinbase don't host Monero and never will.

The more popular Monero gets, the more feds and authorities focus on it and more and more exchanges will be removing monero in future due to regulatory scrutiny.

>inb4 "muh localmonero"

After first dozens of busts for illegal money transmitting business (the same that happened to localbitcoins), LocalMonero will switch to online only. Alternatively, it will be used in small amounts IRL, because any large amounts would attract too much risk and attention.

It's a pipedream.

>> No.30402827

>>30402679
teach me senpai
where do I get started? I'm staring too much at the damn graphs, but not doing it feels like I'm leaving stuff on the table

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30402883

>>30402676
> fuck off pablo no one gives a shit about your retarded ramblings

Ostrich strategy like a child ignoring legitimitate arguments because they shaken the stability of your bull thesis.

If an intellectual person was to own an asset they would want to know ins and outs and all possible failure points instead of just listening to the "good news".

Pathetic

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>>30402731
yeah same "dumbass beaner" whose arguments were not debunked.

I made like 20 arguments. And there were only like 2 counterarguments which came close to debunking.

So 2/20, great job.

Anyone who doesn't believe me can reread entire thread from yesterday:
>>30344885
>>30344885
>>30344885


Any neutral third party reading will realise my arguments were not debunked.

>> No.30402994

>>30402814
>9 posts by this id

Go find the bitcoin core thread and spew over there. No one would be this bent up about a coin unless they felt threatened.

>> No.30403011

>>30402781
> just report and move on
> make janny work for his paycheck

Imagine reporting someone because they don't fit into your bull narrative and actually provide arguments against an investing thesis on a business investing messaging board intended for such discussions.

The cope and ostrich mentality is reaching epic proportions here.

>> No.30403054

>>30402731
yeah, here we go again. at least it bumps the thread free of charge

essentially >>30396213 .png

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>>30402994
> Go find the bitcoin core thread and spew over there. No one would be this bent up about a coin unless they felt threatened.

Literally 0 counter-arguments detected in your post. 0. Null. None

>> No.30403170

>>30403054
it's funny seeing the timestamps on his posts all one minute apart knowing he's sitting there shaking waiting for the flood control timer to finish counting down desu

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>>30392058
>>30392008
>>30392008
>>30392008
>>30392058
>>30392058
>>30392058

FUCKING ARGUMENT GOD

ABSOLUTE LEGEND. I noted and copied your arguments. This is way more concise that I did with all the rambling in thread.

Your approach is better. Hats off to you sir.

>> No.30403198

>>30399958
>>30401469
No, he sounds more like a boomer, but he's right. I never believed in forever, I'm never getting married. Anyway time to buy more Monero

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30403228

>>30403170
> it's funny seeing the timestamps on his posts all one minute apart knowing he's sitting there shaking waiting for the flood control timer to finish counting down desu

Yes I absolutely am.

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>>30401987
We need to start calling this nigga Pedro Schiff.

>> No.30403250

>>30391861
>just don't marry crazy greedy women anon
only incels and simps say this btw

>> No.30403295

>>30402729
Pablo sort of projects a lot but I almost suspect that he is an actual mule for a cartel gang and helps manage some of their funds.

>> No.30403300

so what's the makeit stack fellas? I'm gonna buy 1.0-3.0 XMR in the near future, as I think its usurpation of BTC's throne is inevitable

>> No.30403306

>>30399958
Put down the disney movies incel.
Nobody believes in your fake marriage btw.

>> No.30403348

>>30403228
Lay off the coke paco.

>> No.30403396

>>30403295
lol no I'm not.

I'm just constantly looking for counterarguments to why a certain investment is not good, so I don't buy into it.

I do same in real estate threads.

>> No.30403424

>>30402967
you're in here making 14 posts about how you hate a cryptocurrency, you're not allowed to post basedjaks, nobody cares

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>>30403424
I will make you care

>> No.30403519

>>30403348
Paco is taking orders from the 0xMonero pajeet who used to post here.

>> No.30403541

>>30403228
Maybe if you had bought XMR you'd be able to afford a pass by now, Paco.

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>>30399957
>Hello bank, I'd like to remove my transaction limit for today. Yes, put it all in Monero. Investment strategy and market analysis? No, I just COOM to its anime girl pics

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>>30399957

>> No.30403814

>>30403705
WHAT IS THE SAUCE

>> No.30403861

any way i can set xmrig to restart automatically if it crashes

>> No.30403923

by the way, liPy55Z8 is too retarded to comprehend basic econ and finance >>30399477 so it makes sense why he makes such bad arguments against xmr

>> No.30404059

>>30391709
Btw anyone reading this thread, please do the following if you have not already:

>go here: https://www.4channel.org/feedback
>select feature suggestion
>suggest that they accept monero for a 4chan pass

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30404307

BTC maxi here.

0.004 XMRBTC

why do you MoneroCucks love it so much?

It continues to be be BTFO by Bitcoin.

Dump your pedocoins for Bitcoin now before it is worthless.

Have fun staying poor XMR KEKS!

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30404332

Is it the right time to invest in Monero? Seems like a comfy coin because most darknet markets use it.

>> No.30404529

>>30404332
It is a good time. Morero is more fudded than ever, you know what that means.

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>>30403814

>> No.30404578

>>30404537
pls you can't do this to me, gib sauce

>> No.30404690

>>30404529
coninue to tell yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night

BTC is going to moon to 100K in a few months while Monero is a $200 stable coin

>> No.30404720

>>30404307

XMR is unironically only a good investment now as its sat ratio will improve if BTC dumps, but swapping between ETH/stablecoins is a better play for playing the end of the bullrun.

After trying to sync a local XMR blockchain and getting corruption issues repeatedly with an open github issue of "Ya there's a bug that causes this sometimes that we don't know how to fix, just try again," I unironically would rather buy a jeetcoin than this spaghetticode coin.

>> No.30404895

>>30404537
every reverse search tool I used gives NOTHING, truly the power of XMR chan

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All of this weak fud is making me so bullish. Every time that beaner posts I sell a little more of my BTC for XMR

>> No.30404940

>>30404690
>if it makes you sleep better at night
What makes me sleep well at night is that my money is on a crypto with very strong fundamentals and that has real life use cases. BTC is a giant inflated bubble.
But I'm not going to argue with you. I don't even read the fud posts anymore desu.

>> No.30405207 [DELETED] 

>>30402827
Sure. Making a basic trading bot is really easy. Just learn the basics of basically any programming language that supports floating point math (I wrote my bot as a ZSH script on my RaspberryPi) and read up on how to use the API of your exchange of choice. Every decent exchange has an API.

CoinMetro has a demo mode where you can try out and debug your bot without your actual portfolio getting rekt:
https://help.coinmetro.com/en/articles/2812410-how-to-use-coinmetro-s-trading-api

>> No.30405208

XMR is one of my least comfiest holds. This shit performed so bad in bear and bull market alike. This may yield some good profit maybe in a decade, but this implies in a decade this shit will still be a good privacy coin with good tech and good developement. Much more likely this will eventually have some security breaches exposed through faulty developement either by accident or on purpose and then slowly bleed to zero after a immense dump and then it's goint to be another abandoned once promising project, while there will be some other coin that will carry on the torch of satoshis vision of a privacy focused pedocoin.

>> No.30405436

>>30405207
>CoinMetro has a demo mode where you can try out and debug your bot without your actual portfolio getting rekt
fantastic advice, thanks

>> No.30405728

>>30405208
Markets are irrational, especially in current times, and especially in crypto, everyone knows this. If your comfiness is determined by price movements instead of being based on the fundamentals of your investment then you are a gambling moonboi and Monero isn't for you.

>> No.30405863

>>30405208
Monero is good tech and is building trust, but it missed this bull run like many other 2017 shitcoins.
There will be another alt-coin crash, not sure when or how but it'll happen and most shitcoins will lose >90% of their value and then bleed to zero, like it happened before.

A few will survive, many will be replaced by new project for the next iteration.

I hold an unknow amount of XMR since a long time, and like the technology and ideas, and will keep my bags to either 0$ or 100k$
But there is a real risk with crypto that is not being balanced by gains right now.

>> No.30405884

>>30405208
>XMR is one of my least comfiest holds.
Don't hold it then retard.

>> No.30405972

>>30404529
>>30404690

That's exactly what I'm looking for, something more stable that is not ready to burst. And besides, as you mentioned, it has real uses so even if it won't go that much up, I will still be able to use it to buy some coke on darknet markets.

>> No.30406192

>>30405728
>unironically calling others "gambling moonboi"
reddit's in the other tab, faggot
>>30405884
ever heard of high risk, high reward you retarded doublenigger?
>>30405863
>I hold an unknow amount of XMR since a long time, and like the technology and ideas, and will keep my bags to either 0$ or 100k$
based

>> No.30406243

>>30402679
incredibly based and big brained japanese learning chad

>> No.30406286

>>30403705
>>30404537
ANON PLS

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>>30399957
>>30403705
>>30404537

>> No.30406882

>>30406286
Degenerate, fuck off.

>> No.30406950

>>30405863
How did monero miss the 2017 bull run? What was the price in 2016? Fucking retard.

>> No.30406996

>>30406882
Imagine thinking a privacy coin doesn't attract degenerates

>> No.30407588

Let's say an undersea cable is severed (for instance), and for a period of time there are two internets. On each of these two internets exist completely separate monero nodes. How does the blockchain handle this? There would be two "competing" blockchains - but what happens when they reconnect?

>> No.30407649

>>30407588
>Let's say an undersea cable is severed (for instance), and for a period of time there are two internets.

That's not how the Internet works lol.

>> No.30407680

LMAO, LOOK AT ME, YOUR GIRL IS MINE
What r u gonna do? I saw your ID, you stupid scammer
MY WALLET WITH JULD AND I AM THE KING
>Go home homeless dude

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>>30407649
That is how the internet works. Maybe you need to sever more than one cable, but that's just a more complicated way of asking the same question.

>> No.30408164

>tfw it takes like 5 days to withdraw from coinbase pro

>> No.30408352

>>30407588
Just like bitcoin, the longest blockchain (most proof of work) wins. All transactions on the other blockchains are lost.
It's not likely with radio and satellite internet.

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>>30407774
>That is how the internet works. Maybe you need to sever more than one cable, but that's just a more complicated way of asking the same question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_switching

Undersea cables get severed all the time, its never been an issue.

>According to Global Marine Systems, "Undersea cable damage is hardly rare—indeed, more than 50 repair operations were mounted in the Atlantic alone last year". While a cut in a cable crossing the Atlantic has "no significant effect" due to the many alternate cables, only a handful of Internet cables serve the Middle East. These disruptions are only noticeable because of the small number of cables.[34]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_submarine_cable_disruption#Common_occurrence

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>>30399958

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>> No.30409333

>>30409252
Can the suicide stack really be considered smug?

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>>30409252
based

>> No.30409502

>another proof of work

no thanks

>> No.30409582

How do i deal with my belief that btc is too high and will drop soon bringing xmr down with it? I want to start stacking but I really want btc to drop before i do.

>> No.30409599

>>30409333
Isn't it by definition the line between being smug and wanting to kill yourself?

>> No.30409620

>>30409333
belongs to the 1000000 richest people xmr holders, so your richer than 8000 people around you

>> No.30409668

>>30409252
What would you consider a 50xmr stack?

>> No.30409687

>>30409668
breakit

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>>30409668
>What would you consider a 50xmr stack?

Comfy.

>> No.30409846

>>30409687
Fuck. What would I need for a make it or generational wealth stack?

>> No.30409862

>>30409582
Lately xmr remained stable every time bitcoin dipped

>> No.30409905

>>30409333
compared to all the people that don't have any XMR at all, yes. Making it to the citadel on any level is worth being smug over.

>> No.30409925

>>30409846
High triple digits at least. I wouldn't sneeze at 50XMR though, you will be sitting pretty.

>> No.30410065

>>30409846
>>30409925
Addendum, for makeit I think the consensus in these threads is 100.

>> No.30410087

>>30409862
>down 14% on BTC/XMR pairing this past week
Why go on the internet and tell lies?

>> No.30410101

Going to try day trading other cryptos with XMR. My strat is to just watch the graphs of cryptos over XMR and do anonymous KYC free exchanges. Would there be a something like a python library that’ll help me build my own graphs after getting the info over tor? Most exchange sites actually show the opposite of I want: like binance’s XMR/BTC is in actuality the ratio of BTC/XMR and cryptonator can get me the right ratio but right now has no graphs. Instead of just acknowledging this inversion means I have to buy high and sell low, I’d rather shittily piece together my own little graph that displays things how I want.

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>>30409846
>Fuck. What would I need for a make it or generational wealth stack?

Depends on what your needs are. Assuming Monero hits its oft-cited $40K projection by decade's end, your potential stack would be worth:

10 XMR = $400K

25 XMR = $1 million

50 XMR = $2 million

75 XMR = $3 million

100 XMR = $4 million

>> No.30410251

>>30410101
depends on the exchange you are using, some have an api

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>>30409582
this chart shows 1 month price via trading view as of a day or two ago when i made it

>> No.30410335

>>30410251
Recommend one please. I’d appreciate a place to start so I can dip my feet a little.

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>>30392370
"Hey guys when will this 4 billion market cap, $200 coin just moon already?"

dumbass

>> No.30410364

>>30410101
go on localmonero and sell your coins no kyc for an upcharge accepting other crypto

>> No.30410435

>>30410338
I like to think by the end of the year when all these big bois buying up crypto wanna cash out the way theyve always been making money, illegally.

>> No.30410495

>>30410101
kucoin does no kyc for xmr trading

>> No.30410523

>>30410335
kraken, binance, kucoin all have an api. should be easy to find on their website if they have it

>> No.30410548

>>30410364
Thats probably better, but I don’t know if my shitty small state has the demand for that.

>> No.30410685

I cant wait for the government to tell us monero is banned. The price will crash and ill buy an absolute whale stack.

>> No.30410738

>>30410685
I need to get a job before something like that happens

>> No.30410742

>>30410685
>The price will crash and ill buy an absolute whale stack.
If they ban it, then I have a currency I don't have to pay taxes on.

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>>30410685
this
>ywn buy monero at .40

>> No.30410843

>>30403170
Lmfao

>> No.30410911

>>30410548local monero isnt very "local" by definition. anybody can make the purchase across the globe, with he website being the middleman for no fuckery.

im in us and the guy i buy from is not

>> No.30410937

>>30410805
Imagine the smell of having a 4chin pass since 2018

>> No.30410973
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30410973

YOU'VE GOT TO ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVE
ELIMINATE THE NEGATIVE
LATCH ON TO THE AFFIRMATIVE
DON'T MESS WITH MISTER IN BETWEEN
YOU'VE GOT TO SPREAD JOY UP TO THE MAXIMUM
BRING GLOOM DOWN TO THE MINIMUM
HAVE FAITH OR PANDEMONIUM
LIABLE TO WALK UPON THE SCENE
TO ILLUSTRATE HIS LAST REMARK
JONAH IN THE WHALE, NOAH IN THE ARK
WHAT DID THEY DO
JUST WHEN EVERYTHING LOOKED SO DARK
MAN, THEY SAID WE BETTER
ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVE
ELIMINATE THE NEGATIVE
LATCH ON TO THE AFFIRMATIVE
DON'T MESS WITH MISTER IN-BETWEEN!

>> No.30411017

>>30410937
Wish I had bought one in 2012 my friend.

>> No.30411203

>>30410911
I’ll look into the options you’ve given me
Ty

>> No.30411227

>>30394438
BTC is such a retarded Franken coin.

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>>30410973
hum?

>> No.30411364

>>30395073
>Why do people keep posting that list as if it was a big deal?
>increasingly nervous man

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>>30409252
The 0xmr being swallowed up by Hell is kino

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>>30411203
of course my dude, im here to help with any questions, ive been hard into monero for awhile

>> No.30411562

>>30411472
lmao i never noticed that one

>> No.30411634

>>30411497
Nice to see a fellow believer. 95% of my net worth is in XMR

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30411759

>>30411634

here you go

>> No.30411927

>>30411346
Just a little Johnny Mercer

>> No.30411989

Bitcoin better gold than gold is. Monero is better bitcoin than bitcoin is.

I will hold forever and buy every big dip until this isn't true.

>> No.30412042

Anyone here have experience mining XMR? I have a Ryzen and have been mining in the background. Worth it?

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>>30403061

>> No.30412262

>>30404938
I'm a monero hodler but bitcoin should comprise 50% of your stack

>> No.30412292

>>30396654
God I can't wait.

>> No.30412297

>>30411497
Well, do you think local monero could be instant enough, up charging sounds wonderful. I’m currently looking at XMR /BTC but what other markets look good to investment w/?

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>>30397614
>can the likes of GMAX stop lying about how cryptocurrency is suppose to work

Never going to happen, senpai.

>> No.30412498

>>30412262
If only because Bitcoin dominance is going to go through the roof. If you think XMRBTC ratio looks ugly, that's what every coin's ratio is going to look like in a few years. It's the deflationary safe haven institutions can use in times of crisis.

>> No.30412501

>>30412262
>I'm a monero hodler but bitcoin should comprise 50% of your stack
at the moment, yes, but only for buying some kind of major xmr dip even in the very near future when btc does a massive move up to 100/200k. However, if xmr ratio starts popping up to .005, i hope you're not keeping that 50% btc position, anon.

>> No.30412608

xmr is incredibly underpriced at the moment. it's very difficult for normies to acquire, lots of fud. The moment we get a grayscale listing, or coinbase decides to get their head out of their ass, this coin will go anywhere from 1 - 10k instantly.

>> No.30412622

>>30412297
yes its very fast, the money gets released to an insite wallet that you can transfer it out of for about a penny.

everything else is upchrged about ~$20 above market value.
some sellers are ass tho and require you to send your id or real name, which defeats the purpose. but adding an absolute no kyc on crypto exchange should get you some good hits. ive never personally sold because im just gathering for a few years but its a great site with some good sellers, BuyCoinFast is a honeypot tho

>> No.30412676

>>30402110
I'm sure like any responsible business they keep a % of their holdings in XMR. At the very least a percentage or two.

>> No.30412761

>>30412608
>>30412608
https://coinmarketcap.com/headlines/news/grayscale-confirms-it-is-considering-making-new-products-on-chainlink-ada-polkadot-xmr-and-others/

>> No.30412855

Is this a bad coin to try and make money off of

>> No.30412870

>>30412622
Doesn’t require too much attention from me? I’m working long hours so I’m planning for a simple script that’ll sell and buy for the hours I’m away.

>> No.30413026

>>30412855
Honestly, yes. It’s not for short term gains it’s more for the hope that one day it will be $10k+

>> No.30413062

>>30405208
Bullish

>> No.30413075

>>30412761
yep. at the end of the day, there is an increasing amount of money to be made from monero and there is a going to be a 'first mover' advantage to the companies that start supporting it/creating infrastructure. Grayscale already has or had a zcoin trust, they have shitcoin trusts for things like ETC, and it's just a matter of time before they decide they like money and add a Monero trust. Of course, we all know that a Grayscale trust is just a fake version of Monero, but the listing itself- the ability to buy monero in a retirement account- is community acceptance. It will IMMEDIATELY show up in the price. Anons, if you see a strange upsurge in price, this will be the frontrunners/insiders who know about the *happening*. Keep an eye out for this, and keep stacking because once uncle boomer billy finds out about xmr, these cheap prices will be gone.

>> No.30413298

>>30413075
Yup. Boomers still think Bitcoin is anonymous. This is your average boomers thoughts about crypto:

https://twitter.com/bmoneyera/status/1367696606699601921?s=21

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>>30409252
Alternate

>> No.30413348

>>30409502
queer

>> No.30413392

>>30413298
99.9% of crypto buyers think BTC is anonymous. They have no idea.

This man knows:

https://youtu.be/REC5V7d3pqM

>> No.30413412

>>30412855
Do you want to have conviction that what you’re DCAing into WILL perform long term, or do you want fast but uncertain gains?

>> No.30413417

Should I buy now?

>> No.30413502

>>30413417
Yesterday

>> No.30413562

>>30413417
Anyways. If you’re late to a market now could very well be the lowest price you’ll find.

>> No.30413649

if you're buying with btc, this is one of the best times to buy we've had in a looonnnngg time.

>> No.30413702

>>30412855

Its pretty much bitcoin in 3015. Used for illicit transactions and 200$ a coin. IMO with monero its just a bet that

A. Bitcoins first mover advantage can be overcome buy a coin with greater utility
B. The government will not viscously crack down on monero or a government crackdown wont kill worldwide adoption

If both of those are true, there is no reason why monero wont be worth 5 figures per coin pretty soon.

If either condition seems too far fetched it still seems worth buying a couple monero because there is a huge risk/reward asymmetry.

Monero is probably the most used coin for transacting that there is and the market cap is like 3b.

>> No.30413713

>>30410937
Pass posting is a level of comfy plebs can never understand.

>> No.30413722
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>>30413417
Absolutely.

>> No.30413872

>>30413713
2019 not smell good as 2018
yes, sir

>> No.30413906

>>30413417
Yes and then again forever.

>> No.30413949

>>30412870
idk about a script onm the site, theres manual confirmations that need to be done on both ends to say theyve done their part. you wouldnt want a script accepting a bad payment.
but i dont write code and maybe you could account for that.
I would recommend making a purchase on localmonero for yourself to see how it all goes down and work up from there

>> No.30413979 [DELETED] 

Where can i get $MCM.Heard alot over biz about it

>> No.30414002

>>30413502
>>30413562
>>30413722
>>30413026
So it's 's a long term gain you say, 5+years? What makes you so sure there won't be coming better anonymous coin.

>> No.30414010

>>30413702
It seems astonishing to me that the market can be this late and inefficient in valuating a currency.. Like it just seems too obvious and too good to be true sometimes

>> No.30414037

>>30399958
>Then you never believed in your marriage in the first place.
You never believed in the "forever" part.
You don't have a marriage, you have a girlfriend with whom you signed a contract.
That's what the current laws establish. My dad believed, and then one day after 25 years of marriage my mom decided to leave him for no good reason. The gays are a smoke screen. It's divorce law that killed marriage in this country.

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>>30414002
>What makes you so sure there won't be coming better anonymous coin.

Monero is constantly being upgraded with regular hardforks so if any new cutting-edge crypto tech is developed it will be ported into the Monero codebase.

>> No.30414160

>>30414002
privacy on a blockchain only works by hinding in the masses, so gppd privacy needs lot of transactions
first mover advantage is hard to overcome

(*yes, technically zero proofs are better, but take up much more (20x) space on the chain and more computation time)

>> No.30414174

>>30414002
theres much better currencies than btc, yet it remains god because it was first.
monero is the OG privacy coin with consistent upgrades and just now there are other coins trying to adopt an opt in privacy feature

>> No.30414232

>>30414002
1. Why would you release a 'better' privacy coin than monero instead of just adding that feature on? It's because you're trying to shill a scam. and 2. It will take YEARS for even some amazing tech coin to develop trust, and reliability, memes and community.

>> No.30414366

>>30402167
>This is my favorite example of lefty/statist cognitive dissonance, they apparently care so much about the environment but never talk about how the design of public infrastructure created a car centric culture where people think it's normal to drive everywhere including across the street.
Anon, they can't ever touch that because the immediate response is that car centric sprawl only happens because people aren't allowed to shoot niggers or drugged up hobos and need to keep their families safe. Suburbs in the US are intergenerational armed camps surrounding the cities.

>> No.30414562

>>30409599
Yes.

>> No.30414630

>>30414232
No scripting, not even the basic ones to provide wrapping and exchange with other coins while staying private.
Atomic swaps with BTC might work, but they relay on Bitcoin functionality for timeouts and scripts, and they're very visible on the Bitcoin chain.

Would have been much better the other way and leaves a way for a "better coin easier to trade cross-chains anonymously" to emerge.

>> No.30414676

added 2 XMR today

>> No.30414691

>>30414121
>>30414160
>>30414174
>>30414232
Ok, I'll buy some tomorrow. But I remember bitcoin and blockchain in general being shilled as anonymous and untraceable.

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>>30414691
>But I remember bitcoin and blockchain in general being shilled as anonymous and untraceable.

That was bullshit. Monero is verifiably secure.

>> No.30415123

How do I even obtain xmr without the govt knowing if all my crypto acquisitions are trackable?

>> No.30415235

>>30415123
https://localmonero.co/

>> No.30415270

>>30415123
Sell pedo porn on the dark web obviously

>> No.30415273

>>30413949
Alright, I’ll try that

>> No.30415795

https://youtu.be/REC5V7d3pqM

Another major bull case for XMR by Dr. Daniel Kim.

>> No.30416410

>>30414174

>OG privacy coin

Bytecoin says hi. Monero just a shitty fork, you know.

>> No.30416701

>>30416410
Monero has better branding

>> No.30416729

>>30416410
Where’s bytecoin then?

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>> No.30417504 [DELETED] 

>tfw only 3.3 XMR
I hate being a poorfag

>> No.30417577

>>30415235
bro’s how do i know the dude i meet irl isn’t a glow
bro’s cmon bro’s
i’d sooner be the guy flipping cex monero to cash and paying taxes on the spread

>> No.30417620

>>30417504
And worse you're disclosing how much you hold. Sorry anon, ngmi

>> No.30417627

>>30417504
Don't disclose your amount of XMR in the general, just say ??? or [redacted]

>> No.30417760

>>30399958
>you have a girlfriend with whom you signed a contract
I hate to destroy your dumb romantic conception of marriage as some holy union, but that's all it is - a contract.

>> No.30417981

>>30417504
You meant [an undisclosed amount of] Monero

>> No.30418039

>>30417577
you dont have to actually meet irl, check the site and the payment options they have

>> No.30418208

>>30391934
Can I marry monero-chan?

>> No.30418289

>>30392008
>age of coins with just one feature + chain might be over

What does this mean?

>> No.30418470

>>30417577
is monero illegal in your country?

>> No.30418537

>>30418289
It’s nonsensical fud like the rest of the list

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>>30418208
>Can I marry monero-chan?

Get in line.

>> No.30418903

I just love the project, guys. Going to buy more tomorrow. Seriously starting to think about stashing them away in a cold wallet too

>> No.30418963

>>30417504
Don't worry about it too much
Gotta have money to make money, you know? Or get in early I guess

>> No.30419232

monerofags are at least willing to admit fluffypony is cringe, right? I like the product but I try forget that that faggot exists.

>> No.30419325

>>30418039
they know when u send dollars in the mail
>>30418470
imagine a darknet exchanging silver for monero

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>>30419232
>monerofags are at least willing to admit fluffypony is cringe, right? I like the product but I try forget that that faggot exists.

>> No.30419417

>>30419232
He owns a watch worth multiples of your life and all the things you’ve accumulated in this life. A watch.

Man’s fucking based regardless of if he’s a brony or not.

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>>30409252
you forgot WOWNERO

>> No.30419426

>>30419232
yeah hes cringe, but hes the one who tookover the monero project and pushed the old dev out because he didnt want to go with the community's view. which is pretty chad.
And can happen again if the community doesnt like where the devs are moving with the project.

>> No.30419604

NEW THREAD: >>30419578

>> No.30419660

>>30399958
That is the definition of marriage according to the state, except you can now forfeit half your wealth to another man in the current year. The state wants to take your money in minecraft. You should not stash your sharded seed phrase at hidden locations in Minecraft because that's wrong.

>> No.30419668

>>30401711
>You lost it? Okay anon no problem
>But we'll will require your BTC address or you will be found in contempt of court
>If the funds EVER move we will come to collect half of the assets on it regardless if it was you or anybody else who moved it
>You are free to go now
>Actively advocating for this kind of fuckery

Monero is the future, the ONLY future

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>>30399958
>believes in Disney fantasies
This isn't the 1940s. Marriage and "love" is just a byword now taken for granted.

>> No.30420356

>>30414037
I didn't marry my wife under government's law, I don't give a fuck what it says.
I married her before family, God, and us both. Not before a state or mayor. I don't care about them, they have no say in my home.

>> No.30420423

>>30419660
>definition of marriage according to the state
None of my business. State law is not marriage.

>> No.30420486

>>30420173
I'm sorry you never experienced love, dedication, fidelity and what a real marriage entails. I wish you that.