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Why was this 404’d? >>/biz/thread/S30326153#p30332842

>> No.30333107

Bump.
The notorious scammer Sergey Nazarov has stolen billions from innocent anons and must be taken down.

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>>30333072

>> No.30333154
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>>30333072
Probably the API3 pajeet who started it felt like he was losing the argument so he deleted the thread.

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>>30333072
There were 6 posts made within 5 minutes of each other towards the end (see the timestamps) and then the thread got nuked. What’s this about? Did the jannies fat finger? Or is there something else going on?

>> No.30333173

>>30333144
You must have sold below $20, all fucking posts have you in it. You're left behind

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>>30333154
Nice dot-connecting there pal.

>> No.30333228

>>30333072
some jannies are linkers and dont want the chainlink scam to be exposed

>> No.30333253

>>30333154
If API3 was Zeus, it would actually be a very clever scheme on their part. Not sure why this is seen as FUD.

>> No.30333276

>>30333228
Yep that’s what I’m suspecting. I literally couldn’t keep up with the thread. Look at the time stamp to see how quickly it was moving. Then nuked.

>> No.30333306

>>30333072
>Janitor applications are now closed. Thank you to everyone who applied!
Does anyone know when the last jannie applications were closed?

>> No.30333338

>>30333167
>>30333253
>First he denies
>Then he admits the crime but denies guilt
I wonder what will come next hmmmm

>> No.30333401

>>30333276
Fuck jannies

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>>30333072
>Zeus Capital
Holy shit imagine being this butthurt.

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>>30333338
Didn’t answer my question. *If* API3 is Zeus, and they magically haven’t been caught, no connections to them have been found, everything points to Nexo, wouldn’t that be an ingenious scheme? Wouldn’t you be impressed with such an ingenious team?

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it's back up again, the psyop continues

>> No.30333505

>>30333423
>Didn’t answer my question.
Questions have a question mark, dear sir. But, seeing you are part of the API3 team I suppose you're more used using question marks in the answer, since you all love to respond to legit fud with goalpost moving questions.

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>>30333505
Address this:
>>30333253
>>30333423
^ This has a question mark, since I suppose you need a cue to know what to respond to.

>> No.30333652

>>30333586
AGAIN with the ad hominem.The salt is still strong with these pajeets.

It's hardly a strong feat to copy paste biz fud and put it online and make some tweets every now and then. Especially with all of that sweet VC funding Cburniske gave you guys.

My question to you would be: wouldn't the team have been better of using this time to make an actual product instead of this vapour ware with 0 usage? Or even better, use this time to find someone to audit your code.

>> No.30333748

>>30333652
>AGAIN with the ad hominem
From your previous response >>30333154
>API3 pajeet

“ Whatever the gaslighter/narcissist is or whatever he is doing, he will assign those characteristics or behaviors to you.”

>> No.30333779

>>30333652
>all of that sweet VC funding Cburniske gave
Nice little portfolio Placeholder has there:
>https://www.placeholder.vc/

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>>30333652
>wouldn't the team have been better of using this time to make an actual product instead of this vapour ware with 0 usage?
What if the team is so ingenious they both build code and craft the most elaborate and successful FUD campaign against their competitors ever devised in crypto?

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>>30333652
>even better, use this time to find someone to audit your code.

From:
>https://medium.com/api3/api3-dao-development-update-february-2021-8e3d6e673130
>During this month, we have worked with LimeChain to have the pre-alpha version of the request–response protocol contracts audited.
>We will continue using this version for our early integrations, while scheduling a more comprehensive audit for v0.1.0.
>The first audit is scheduled with Solidified for March 8–22. Following the revisions, a second audit is scheduled with Quantstamp for April 4–9.

>> No.30334000

>>30333748
>moves discussion to a cherry picked detail without addressing the main issue

Nice try burak

>> No.30334030

>>30333779
Thanks for proving my point that API3 is a cashgrab by vcs to try and bank on the oracle hype.

>> No.30334089

>>30333830
Since they aren't able to run a decent chainlink node and their constant arrogance while being unable to answer the most logical fud without just asking a question back I highly question the capabilities and virtue of the API3 employers

>> No.30334103

>>30334000
>>moves discussion to a cherry picked detail without addressing the main issue
Everything in your original post here >>30333652
was addressed. Unless that wasn’t your main point, in which case: what is your main point?

>> No.30334127

>>30333878
Thanks again for proving my point that API3 has sold a token with 0 audits and a minting function bakc in 2020 and only now started thinking about doing some audits.

>> No.30334155

>>30334127
>thinks a standard ERC20 needs an audit

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>>30334030
>cashgrab by vcs
nice “cash grab” projects placeholder invested in. pic related.

>> No.30334195

>>30334155
OK I will make it as simple as possible for you: Why does the API3 team need to have a minting function for their token?

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>>30334127
>doesn’t know every ERC has a minting function

>> No.30334220

>>30334176
Nice goal post moving. Vc can invest in legit projects as well as cashgrabs. API3 is the latter

You also cherry pick 1 single vc. I wonder why.

>> No.30334243

>>30333253
>a clever scheme
the zeus fud is just regurgitated pasta-tier shit that sounds like it was written by salty, priced out moonboys
do you have a room temp iq? is that why you think it's clever?
you should probably reflect on how fucking dumb you are for finding it impressive

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API3 is useless. Its system is a tiny fraction of Chainlink's possibilities.

>> No.30334271

>>30334214
>doesn't answer the question
Why are you so afraid to answer my question? Who controls the keys for the minting function? Can the team just mint 10M extra tokens at will? Guess the holders of paid know the answer to that question. And paid was already audited, while API3 is not.. Yikes.

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>>30334195
>Why does the API3 team need to have a minting function for their token?
Holy shit I didn’t think you were actually this retarded. Every ERC has a minting function.

Standard ERC20 implementation:
https://github.com/OpenZeppelin/openzeppelin-contracts/blob/master/contracts/token/ERC20/ERC20.sol#L233

>> No.30334296

>>30334258
Delete this doesn't matter API3 is better no no no no these big companies will surely put all of their money in my chuckecheezlse token that the team can mint at will

>> No.30334347

>>30334272
So you admit the api3 team can mint as many tokens as they want at any time? And we should just trust them (Burak, sassa and midav) to not print extra? Nice oracle bro!

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>>30334220
>You also cherry pick 1 single vc. I wonder why
You want another example API3 investor?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Currency_Group
>Subsidiaries
>Grayscale Investments

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>>30334258
You can only have one:
Option A: Chainlink approaches API providers and convinces them to provide data to the blockchain. In this scenario, Chainlink remains a centralized and permissioned network, hand-selecting node operators.
Option B: Chainlink is an open and permissionless network. In this scenario, there is no direct incentive mechanism to incentivize API providers to provide data to the blockchain. Unlike API3, which is designed with API provider business models in mind.

>> No.30334510

>>30334440
You are only further providing proof that API3 is a cashgrab by some vcs who missed out on link. Instead of admitting they were wrong they paid of some salty failed node operators to write some fud and put some buzzwords together like first party oracle to milk ether from gullible newfags

>> No.30334535

Because it was a Charles psyop. Along with that Frameworks guy.

>> No.30334573

This FUD on API3 is bullish. I dont see linkies scared about BAND, DIA or KYLIN. Only API3 FUD.

Gonna have to load up some more bags of this shit i guess

>> No.30334578

all I’m getting from this thread is that I shouldn’t touch api3 with a ten foot pole

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>>30334510
What layer of fud is this? I can’t tell who’s fudding what anymore

>> No.30334611

>>30334347
You are extremely retarded. The minting function is controlled by DAO contracts that only mint if a proposal is passed. Here’s a question for you: what prevents Sergey from dumping his entire supply of ~50% of all LINK tokens all at once?

>> No.30334633

>>30334578
Thanks just sold 100k

>> No.30334659

>>30334578
These investors touched it:
>>30334440
>>30334176

>> No.30334667

All the API3 fud is easily debunkable, but the fud is actually so shitty that I can’t tell if it’s double fud to make people bullish

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>>30334573
This.

>> No.30334714

>>30334659
Thanks just bought 100k

>> No.30334728

>>30334633
>>30334659
Why are you talking to yourself. We can clearly see you are samefagging and artificially bumping this weird thread. Stop talking to yourself, get some air and chill dude. This whole thread is bizarre to read.

>> No.30334797

>>30334496
>Option A: Chainlink approaches API providers
What?
I just showed you Kraken acting just as an API3 source.

>Chainlink remains a centralized and permissioned network, hand-selecting node operators.
Chainlink is the contract operator, and the contract operator will always hand-select the node operators (or at least select the node selection method).

You have no idea how Chainlink works.

>> No.30334826

>>30334579
>we ran 6 nodes
Confirmed lie

Also no one ever used this marketplace. Or should I say: everyone who uses API3 used this marketplace.

>> No.30334842

>>30334728
This is what most threads that mention API3 look like. Some LINK holders (always sounds like the exact same guy desu) enters the thread and starts shitting on it with the same copy-pasta FUD.

>> No.30334889

>>30334573
If fud is legit it is bearish. As in the api3 team controls the minting function and can print as many tokens as they want at any time to exit scam. See >>30334611
The dao part is fake as the dao functions with majority vote and the public only controls 20% of the supply while the team has 30%. And I assume those other 50% are vc who just work with the team so effectively its 80% controlled by the broad team

>> No.30334895

>>30334797
>You have no idea how Chainlink works.
It’s a centralized permissioned network that currently selects each and every node operator that provides data to any “partnered” dApp/project.

>> No.30334909

>>30334728
Thanks just bumped 100k

>> No.30334922

>>30334889
>The dao part is fake as the dao functions with majority vote and the public only controls 20% of the supply while the team has 30%. And I assume those other 50% are vc who just work with the team so effectively its 80% controlled by the broad team
How is this worst than Chainlink? Where Sergey currently controls ~50% of LINK.

>> No.30334959

Chainlink is from Satoshi himself, all hail Sergey Nazarov

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>>30333072
>Why was this 404’d?
Because you or the other faggot in your crew deleted the thread in an attempt to make it seem like mods/jannies are out to stop your "message" from being spread. Next level FUD but only newfags will buy into it.

Neck yourselves you filthy shitskins

>> No.30334976

>>30334496
Fake and gay lies spread by api3 to smear chainlink. Users of the feeds control who is participating and control the multisig. CLCG never been chosen to contribute was a clear indication they sucked at operating a node. Hence them telling the Lie about being the best node by just paying for insane gas fees for 1 week to be the fastest respondent, sceenshotting then deleting themselves from the reputation website

>> No.30335000

>>30334895
>It’s a centralized permissioned network
No, it's a decentralized network.
What confuses you is the fact that currently Chainlink is the only contract operator; and contracts are meant to be whatever the contract operator wants them to be.

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>>30334826
>>we ran 6 nodes
>Confirmed lie
Pic related.

>Also no one ever used this marketplace.
There are no independent node operators in the Chainlink network that get any traffic. All companies partnered with Chainlink get data served from hand-picked node operators by Chainlink. Therefore, a product intended for independent node operators, won’t get traffic. Because Chainlink has no independent node operators.

>> No.30335115

>>30335000
>Chainlink is the only contract operator
Making the network centralized. Give an example of a non-Chainlink contract operator.

>> No.30335186

>>30335054
>pic related
Is not relevant? One node, not 6.
Noticr amount of Link earned is very little. Confirms what I said that "best node" is another API3 LIE

>no one uses independent data providers running a node
You just destroyed the whole api3 usecase, congratulations

>> No.30335234

>>30334922
Lol It's bad for api3 because it's claiming to be a dao (but it isn't). Chainlink isn't claiming to be a dao.

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>hate BSC because it's centralized - CZ picks all 21 node operators
>love Chainlink, totally decentralized, Sergey picks and KYCs all node operators

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>>30334976
>Hence them telling the Lie about being the best node by just paying for insane gas fees for 1 week to be the fastest respondent
You can’t lie about things that are written on the blockchain, see:
https://etherscan.io/address/0x78e76126719715eddf107cd70f3a31dddf31f85a
Look at the total number of transactions and their dates.
>deleting themselves from the reputation website
Prove this.

>> No.30335305

>>30335241
>block validating is the same as delivering API data

>> No.30335373

>>30335305
>doesn't mention decentralization because he has no argument

>> No.30335401

>>30335115
>Making the network centralized.
lol no.
The nodes and sources are decentralized at all levels.

Unlike API3, where one source equals one node.

>> No.30335431

>>30335373
Ethereum gas limit prevents more nodes to be added to a feed. Also, 31 is better than api3's single node

>> No.30335456

Chainlink fans, what are your thoughts on UMB?

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>>30335186
>>no one uses independent data providers running a node
>You just destroyed the whole api3 usecase, congratulations
Holy shit you’re so retarded. What that statement means is that, Chainlink as it currently stands has no node operators (with any traffic) that aren’t selected by Chainlink; I.e. no independent Chainlink network node operators.

I’m starting to think you actually own API3 and are deliberately fudding. If that’s the case, congrats, you fooled me until now.

>> No.30335461

>>30335115
me:
>Chainlink is currently the only contract operator

you:
>Give an example of a non-Chainlink contract operator.

You're not very bright, are you?

>> No.30335470

>>30335288
Thanks for sharing that. It proofs they had 1 node, not 6 as they claim, and it proofs they massively overpaid gas with 180 gwei at a time the recommended fast gas price was 70 gwei

>> No.30335500

>>30335401
>decentralized on all levels
Except the governance layer, where Sergey and his team have total control over who is approved to be added to the feeds, are responsible for paying node operators, and run the nodes for most of their "first party" oracles

>> No.30335531

>>30335500
>Except the governance layer
You mean the contract layer.

The contract layer isn't supposed to be decentralized, the contract is whatever the operator wants it to be.

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>>30335431
>Also, 31 is better than api3's single node
API3 constructs data feeds from multiple first party nodes. Data feeds don’t consist of a single node.

Can you tell me how many independent APIs are represented by those 31 nodes? Are they all getting data from the same API? If not, can you prove it?

>> No.30335591

>>30333072
Why not delet this one too OP, it will look like a real conspiracy against you?

>> No.30335613

>>30335431
>more nodes is better
Yes, for third party nodes. This isn't true for first party oracles, where a data provider has no incentive to mess with their own data
>but what if they do
They lose real world reputation, API level aggregation can solve this anyway, and Chainlink doesn't solve an API level attack either

>> No.30335630

>>30335561
>Data feeds don’t consist of a single node.
But every source only consists of a single node.

>> No.30335646

>>30335531
>decentralized oracle
>not supposed to be decentralized
Huh

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>>30333333

>> No.30335664

>>30335561
>answering with many other questions
Classic API3 style. Instead of explaining or refuting a point you just ask questions to try and move the attention away to something else some other project did or does. The thing is Chainlink works and is used by almost every single who's who in the defi space. Meanwhile API3 is a solution looking for a problem created by VC's who missed out on Link and one crappy node operator who never got picked for feeds because they were not capable of running a node for shit.

>> No.30335669

>>30335613
>where a data provider has no incentive to mess with their own data
lol what the fuck makes you say that?

>>30335646
I said the contract is not supposed to be decentralized.
Learn to read.

>> No.30335681

>>30335664
>answers questions by complaining about being asked them

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>>30335470
>It proofs they had 1 node, not 6 as they claim
That is the Chainlink node they ran on mainnet. There was another they ran on ropsten. Then there were the additional ones they ran for their honeycomb marketplace. They posted the addresses of the first two in their TG. I’ll ask for the addresses of the remaining four, and post them when they respond.

>and it proofs they massively overpaid gas with 180 gwei at a time the recommended fast gas price was 70 gwei
You do realize this is set by the Chainlink node implementation? And “recommended” (I.e. enforced) standards are made by Chainlink to their node operators?

>> No.30335729

>>30333306
Yesterday.

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>>30335681
>This isn't true for first party oracles, where a data provider has no incentive to mess with their own data
>still doesn't refute my initial rebuttal of his mute argumentation.

>> No.30335748

fuck off sneed investor dickhead
>I will never visit this shit you try to shill
no one will believe in this dum[
smart buyers chose juld, just check this info for last year. ez +220%

>> No.30335781

>>30333072
Oh, good news for BOND

>> No.30335786

>>30335669
Chainlink is already using API data to create their feeds. Why aren't the API providers pushing false data? Because they'd lose their business if they did. There currently isn't an incentive for third party nodes not to collude though, because staking is a pipedream

>> No.30335795

>>30335719
>That is the Chainlink node they ran on mainnet. There was another they ran on ropsten.
So two nodes. One of which was on testnet. I'll count that as one. Not 6. LIES

>You do realize this is set by the Chainlink node implementation? And “recommended” (I.e. enforced) standards are made by Chainlink to their node operators?
Nice proof.

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ITT
>the numbers, Mason! What do they mean?

I think biz gets it. LINK is the divin3 geometry qaballah and basically all token logos are symbols of the old gods. From the Sunerian and Egyptian Pantheon. isis, Horus, and Ra. Is Ra El still worships them.

Furthermore I realized when I was 15 there were such similarities between religions, though even the Vatican keeps it hidden and esoteric, they all seem to be based on actual events that are in our collective memory.

If I had to guess I'd say we get ayyy disclosure soon and that they're the Creators. They are probably from the Pleiades.

>> No.30335807

>>30335461
Ah, thanks for clarifying. I thought you might have misspoke. So it is an entirely Chainlink company controlled network.

>> No.30335872

>>30335630
>But every source only consists of a single node.
I don’t understand what you mean. How are you defining “source” here?

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>>30333173

>> No.30335910

>>30335734
>implies brainlet
>posts big brain

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>>30335664
>one crappy node operator who never got picked for feeds because they were not capable of running a node
The best node operator to be exact.
See >>30335054

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>> No.30335990

>>30335786
>Why aren't the API providers pushing false data?
APIs pushing false data is one thing.
The node falsifying the API data is another.

With API3, the API is the node, so the node knows the data being transmitted, leaving the door open to attack via the node.
Not to mention there is no redundancy if the node were to fail.

>>30335807
>So it is an entirely Chainlink company controlled network.
No, a company controlled contract.
Learn to read.

>>30335872
>I don’t understand what you mean.
lol
The source runs the only node connected to the source.

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>> No.30336048

>>30335958
>best node operator
False claim, no one picked CLCG for their feed, proven by your own very screenshot which shows CLCG having very little LINK rewards

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>>30335795
>So two nodes. One of which was on testnet. I'll count that as one. Not 6. LIES

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>> No.30336092

>>30335910
kek

>> No.30336099

>>30336064
>I'll just greentext and attach a meme to hide the fact that the team blatantly lied and I have zero rebuttal to this argumentation

>> No.30336137

i was close to got $1.5k in mantradao every week pool bonuses...high prizes for every week lp pools joiners

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>>30335990
>so the node knows the data being transmitted, leaving the door open to attack via the node.
This is precisely the argument *against* third party nodes. Third party oracles create an additional attack vector.

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>>30335990
>muh magix ponzi scheme buzzwords

>> No.30336273

>>30335990
>the API is the node
Yes, so why would they push false data? If an API provider wants to do this, they could do it at the API level anyway, which could already happen to Chainlink.
>there is no redundancy
Airnode can be run from the same cloud infrastructure as the API, so it will only go down if the API goes down. That would also stop third party nodes serving it

>> No.30336280

>>30335241
BSC is years into main net, Chainlink not so much. Fat Sergey won't pick node operators a year from now.

Also: who the fuck still cares about Zeus or the implicated projects like API3 or BAND who clearly are years behind Chainlink? Every dollar you put into those projects you can't put into the market leader. That's a suckers game.

>> No.30336328

>>30336169
>This is precisely the argument *against* third party nodes.
lol no it's not.

Having multiple independent nodes means you have to attack all of them at once instead of just one node.
Also, with Chainlink you will be able to obfuscate the data in many ways, so the nodes don't know what data is being transmitted.

With API3, there's only one node, and the node necessarily knows what data is being transmitted.
This is a clear and easy single target for manipulation.

>> No.30336345

>>30336280
>who cares about API3
This anon >>30333154

>> No.30336369

>>30336273
So essentially API3 has copied Oraclize, but with a useless ERC20 cashgrab chuck-e-cheese token on top of it and a fraudulent DAO structure to lure in the sucker retail investors. Nice project.

>>30336169
You don't understand the very basics of what the oracle problem is. It's not third party oracles are the problem, it's relying on single sources of truth and making sure downtime is prevented.

>> No.30336393

>>30334826
>>30334889
>>30334976
Just bought 100k
Is there any other projects that are just as "bad" as api3? Wink wink

>> No.30336420

>>30336273
>Yes, so why would they push false data?
A variety of reasons.
People defraud their own companies all the time you know.

> they could do it at the API level anyway
And with API3, there's an additional single point of attack.

>so it will only go down if the API goes down
That is never how software applications work lol.

>> No.30336429

>>30336002
lol

>> No.30336442

>>30336369
Oraclize was a third party oracle retard

>> No.30336505

>>30336328
>the node necessarily knows what data is being transmitted.
The node and the API provider are the same entity. Why would it make any game theoretic sense for the API provider to tamper with data before transmitting it to its own node?

>> No.30336524

>>30336420
Actually with Chainlink the third party nodes are an additional attack surface. If the API provider is going to fuck with your feed, does it matter if they do it by pushing false data to the oracle or by altering data within the oracle? No. But third party nodes can ALSO tamper with data
>but staking
This just reduces the risk of an attack that API3 isn't vulnerable to. Also wen

>> No.30336525

>>30336442
So is API3. You just have to trust Apu from the IT departement to configure the airnode correctly. With Chainlink you have tens, soon hundreds, of professional business completely focused on getting the highest quality data. With API3 every company will have to ask someone in their IT department to start running an Ethereum node and run the Airnode, essentially you're putting your whole dApp in the hands of this one random anon neet who is working at the IT departement.

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>>30336369
>Nice project.

>> No.30336574

>>30336524
Apu from IT at the company hypothetically running the airnode can also tamper with the data.

>> No.30336637

>>30336525
>You just have to trust Apu from the IT departement to configure the airnode correctly.
>With Chainlink you have tens, soon hundreds, of professional business completely focused on getting the highest quality data.
Why are you so sure Apu isn’t helping run Chainlink nodes?

>> No.30336655

>>30336574
Airnode runs itself, it's not like a Chainlink node. Deploy it and it just works, no apu necessary

>> No.30336666

>>30336542
We've come full circle ladies and gents, Burak is now using his VC investors (see my post about certain Cburniske people missing out on LINK) as argumentation that the project is good.

Chainlink has: complete and utter market dominance, years of experience, big brains like Ari Juels
API3: Backing by rich trust fund kids who didn't know about LINK until it hit 20 dollar and they were mocked by frogposters on twitter, 0 working project, 1 node on chainlink mainnet, 0 audits and 1 very coincidental minting function

>> No.30336725

>>30333072

Because this report is retarded.
You also a faggot, OP

>> No.30336726

>>30336655
You forgot about the Ethereum node. Or will you use Infura? Nice decentralization theatre you got there.

>>30336637
Thanks for fudding your own project. If APU runs a CL node he has incentive to provide bad data to API3 's airnode. Meanwhile CL has many other nodes providing their data to make sure one single node cannot mess things up.

Wow this gave me late 2017 flashbacks explaining the need for a decentralized oracle network to noobs.

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>>30336666
>big brains like Ari Juels
Oh, you’re the guy that made this >>/biz/thread/S30205142#p30206024
I can tell by your choice of vocabulary.

Also, the frequency in which you get gets is highly suspicious. I’m staring to think you’re a janny.

>> No.30336819

is this true? will this coin make me rich mr anon?
or you just try to shill people with shit
>I have already hold SWG and got rewards
>BSC will be cool for platform development

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>>30336808
>I’m staring to think you’re a janny.
This would make sense, actually, given that you’d repost the same screencap within seconds of an API3 thread.

>> No.30336854

>>30336808
I can tell by your choice of images you're Burak, maker of scamcoins, failure of Chainlink, miscounter of nodes and loser of this argumentation.

>> No.30336867

>>30336726
Airnode can use multiple Ethereum as a service providers at the same time, including POKT network for a fully decentralized ETH option without running a full ETH node. Of course providers can run a full ETH node as well if they want.

>> No.30336894

>>30336867
Team first said Chainlink was a bad solution because it requires node operators to run their own ETH node and data providers would never do this. Now you've all pivoted. Bad look guys, as usual.

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>>30336666
>1 very coincidental minting function
Minting requires proposal and majority DAO vote. Compare to: Sergey dumping some of his 50% ownership of circulating supply of LINK whenever he feels like it.

>> No.30336934

>>30336808
Also note how one again the attention is shifted to ad hominem accusations instead of offering rebuttal to the very legit concerns that API3 might, in fact, be one big facade to extra money from the gullible.

>> No.30336974

>>30336909
>Minting requires proposal and majority DAO vote
Lol this very same argument was already addressed and destroyed by me in this thread. But thanks for once again confirming the team can mint as many tokens as they want, all they need to do is open up a vote, use their 30% of votes to outnumber the 20% sold to the public and boom as many millions of tokens as they want.

>> No.30336980

>>30336894
>can do something
>has to do something
You seem to be confused, these mean different things

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>>30333072
I have to head out. Leaving this:
>>/biz/thread/S30205142
>>/biz/thread/S30205142
>>/biz/thread/S30205142
> >>/biz/thread/S30205142
> >>/biz/thread/S30205142
> >>/biz/thread/S30205142

>> No.30337028

>>30336987
>>>/biz/thread/S30205142
Yeah run away scared now that you've literally lost every single argument in this thread.

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>>30333423
>>30333586
>>30333830
>>30333878
>>30334496
>>30335719
>>30336542
>yfw you realize the CLCG discord trannies made their scam's logo the same as the pedophile symbol for boy lover
You can't make this shit up

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>>30336974
>use their 30% of votes to outnumber the 20%
How is 30% a majority vote? Majority means greater than 50%. I lost brain cells just typing that out.

>> No.30337061

>>30337028
>Yeah run away scared
I’m not the one nuking threads.

>> No.30337063

>>30337032
>Majority means greater than 50%. I lost brain cells just typing that out.
Oh and who controls the missing 50%? Oh right, those very same VC's who are essentially team members by extension. So in reality the team controls 80% of the token supply

>> No.30337095

>>30337061
>I’m not the one nuking threads.
There's zero proof I nuked the thread. Just because kek blesses me with digits doesn't proof I'm a janny, it only proofs that Kek doesn't like scamcoins such as your chuck-e-cheeze token

>> No.30337245

>>30336505
If someone wants to tamper with the data, API3 leaves two vectors: the API and the node.
There's only one node per source, and that node knows what data is being transmitted. So it's a clear vector for attack.
And besides, you can easily replicate API3's system with Chainlink if you want.

>>30336524
>Actually with Chainlink the third party nodes are an additional attack surface.
With Chainlink, the third party oracles are infinitely more secure (decentralization, data obfuscation, ...) than having a single node who knows what data is being transmitted.

>> No.30337272

>>30336726
>a decentralized oracle network
I love this fucking meme. Multiple nodes can be providing info from the same API. Furthermore, you can just query multiple APIs and take the average value like Chainlink is doing at the moment without needing to use it.

>> No.30337314

>>30337272
Chainlink has almost 2 years of mainnet and hundreds of live integrations to proof its usage.

>> No.30337396

>>30337061
>they're nuking our threads! you're in cahoots with the jannies!!!
>also w-we're not Zeus Capital, what an unsubstantiated accusation. Haha even if we- I mean they- were, that'd be pretty bullish!
Lmao

>> No.30337413

>>30337245
>obfuscation
Ah, security by obscurity. Definitely no problems here

>> No.30337454

>>30337413
Funny to say this since API3 goes through all kind of length to obfuscate who works for their company - I mean DAO it's surely not a VC backed company

>> No.30337536

>>30337413
Absolutely.
That's what TEEs (SGX, TownCrier, ...) are all about.

>> No.30337759

>>30337454
The Chainlink team page only lists their advisors. Even Sergey isn't there lol. For API3, as the Telegram jannies keep saying, daos don't have team pages, but the members are visible on LinkedIn

>> No.30337927

>>30337759
https://chain.link/team
FAKE
Another LIE spread by API3 debunked by anon.

>> No.30338098

>>30337927
Have you bothered to check it?

>> No.30338158

>>30338098
Anyone who isn't blind can see Sergey's picture first thing when they open the link, this is such a stupid argument to have. I can't wait until you start redefining what it means to be on the website, moving the goal post to try and safe face.

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>>30333072
What's he doing right now biz?

>> No.30338693

>>30333144
checked

>> No.30338880

>>30338158
Weird, that link says team but it's just a 10x10 pixel photo wall

>> No.30338891

all these recent apu3 threads with retarded attempts at "anti-fud" and hype building means that the rug is near right? didn't know about the minting function and that they're not audited

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