/biz/ - Business & Finance

>uses the term wage slave
Get out.

>>303129

I'm trying you worthless cunt.

I want to get as far away from you fucking wage slave faggots as possible.

I spent my whole life around you, I worked my precious jerbs with you, I saw you go nowhere, and now you're here trying to hold everyone else back from doing literally anything that might put them above you.


Wage slaves are cancer. Your minds are cancer.

If you don't agree, then have your own board. The fact that you ever mistook yourselves for the intended userbase of /biz/ (cryptos aside) - is now something we people interested in making our own way and having our own constructive discussions, the entrepreneurs, are suffering for.

Fuck you. This is my board, but if we must, give us our own.

>>303128
>wage slave

le epik maymay on 4chan

mudflips dosu dosu dosu row row fight the powa

>>303128

This is /biz/

Not /job/

>>303144
Epic post broseph. Hope your boss doesn't see you shitposting on 4chan.

>>303154
this

nobody cares if you think you'll be the next bill gates

you're a faggot like everyone else here

nothing makes you less of one, not even being an unemployed ideas guy

stop being jelly of people with life plans and aspirations for a steady career

>>303138
>I spent my whole life around you, I worked my precious jerbs with you, I saw you go nowhere, and now you're here trying to hold everyone else back from doing literally anything that might put them above you.

Where are you now? I'm genuinely curious.

You're not above anybody, slappy. Stop pretending you are. You can work a day job, aspire to get a better one even, and still have aspirations outside of upward movement within in organization. The fact that you, along with your "wage-slave" spouting NEET cohorts, fail to see that speaks far more about your narrow tracked mind than it does about anybody working a 9-5. You're living out a fantasy on an anonymous message board. Putting someone with a job down doesn't put you alongside the likes of Cuban or Buffet. It just means you're an angry man behind a keyboard.

>Protip: Both of those men would have been called wage slaves by this when they were just starting out

>>303157
BAHAHAHA

Trust me, no one is jelly of your life plans and aspirations to retire in your diapers. Not even the loser faggot NEETs envy you.

Long term steady careers are for losers, plain and simple.

>>303128


Split the board.

>>303157

You sound drunk but I'm going to point something out here :

>you're a faggot like everyone else here

Wage slave mentality.

>i'm a failure and everyone else needs to be too

Does this sound familiar anyone?

>This is 4chan you're not allowed to be successful and post here

Sound familiar?


The wage slaves drive an active and aggressive campaign of loser mentality here. You are not allowed to be a winner here. You are not allowed to be self-employed (I have had countless arguments with wage slaves who insisted I was lying about being self-employed).

The wage slavers are actively destroying the board and if I'm the only one who noticed a brief effort on the board to "get serious" die off so that everything is now crawling and dying slowly, I'll shutup. It went up in direct proportion to the wage slaves and their outrage over the idea that what they'redoing (working jobs) isn't /biz/

But again, it's not /job/. It's /biz/.

>>303158
>You're not above anybody, slappy.

And how dare I even dream of being above you, right?

Wage slave, suck my shit and die choking on it. We're done with you. If you're still in the phase of your life where you need your McJob good luck. I'm not.

>>303158
>Both of those men would have been called wage slaves

Nah, they wouldn't have. Cuban and Buffet had bigger aspirations than

> muh 401k
> muh steady career
> muh promotions

>>303160
>Not even the loser faggot NEETs envy you.
>Long term steady careers are for losers, plain and simple.
Agreed.

And this is another huge issue.

Why are all the wage slaves here?

4chan is not for them.

>>303128

Tying to OP -

Wageslaves are seen all over this thread spreading their cancerous shit mentality:

>derp 4chan is for loser nerd virgins so you're not allowed to be a winner here

Fine, fuck off already wageslaves - but don't you get the irony here? You are not allowed to have jobs and be on 4chan.

We can take if further:

Did you stick your dick in a woman in your lifetime yet? Get the fuck out, this is 4chan, or did you not get the note.

You can't have it everyway you want it, wage slaves, it's just not possible to make you happy because you are miserable inside and you need to accept this and let other people do their own thing in life. Don't you see where your need to lash out comes from?

You hate yourselves and your jobs and you fucking know it. Either fix it or put the metal to the back of your throat and shut the fuck up, we don't need more people like you in the world, we need less.

>>303169
>all over this thread

*board

Although they will be ITT you can bet on it.

They are in every thread. Ruining it. They ruin everything.

Separate us, /biz/

But I am a wage slave emancipator, you guys need to worship me which can only happen if you cleanse your mind of your wage slaving ways. You will be guided, by the light (me).

>>303164
>And how dare I even dream of being above you, right?

If you paid attention, you'd realize I never said that. In all honesty, my goals are most likely higher than yours; it's just that I don't go around deriding people for their decisions. That's what makes you a prick and a moron.

I've worked harder and longer than you, and I take pride in it. I still want to improve my station in life; most do.

And I seriously doubt that you're in any position to shit on salaried employees. What, pray tel, is it that you've done to be so secure financially while remaining insecure enough that lashing out at anons on a board is a fulfilling pastime for you?

>>303173

>if I'm sarcastic and post enough reaction images and call them NEETs long enough my life will stop sucking

It won't though. Only you can help yourselves, the least you could do is stop trying to actively stop those of us on here trying to help ourselves and eachother.

You are sad creatures, wageslaves, I just need you to understand that. We understand, some of us know (or share) your pain, but it's time for the babbies to grow up now and hang up the namecards, okay?

If you need a special place to wallow in the greatness of your employment and how wonderfully fulfilling it is to make money for other people disproportionate to that which you earn for yourself, maybe we can arrange that. That's the topic.


I'll leave it up to /biz/ now.

>>303175

>no u
>prove to me that you earn more than me right now otherwise im going to keep shitposting

Classic wageslave holds the thread hostage demanding that everyone who can't provide a time-stamped bank-account and business plan proving they are on a better path in life cough up - otherwise they will rape the thread to death.

Fine, do it. You do this in literally every thread here, wageslaves.

Like I said elsewhere, I'm done with this board, but at least I had my say.

>>303168
>Nah, they wouldn't have. Cuban and Buffet had bigger aspirations than...

They did. But they weren't above looking for a good opportunity in the short term. How you all fail to see that is fucking astounding. Not everyone feels the need to preface, "I'd like to make 60k a year in a stable career," with, "I'm going to be a multi-millionaire with three houses, but first."

You're so focused on an endgame that you have no clue to get to that the people around you are laughing their asses off. The emperor has no clothes, and despite being told so multiple times, continues to lord his fine silks over us peasants.

>>303175

Stop arguing with him. It's bait shitposting

He's made and trolled in at least 5 threads like this in the past week. You can tell by the autistic writing style and petty insults.

>>303184

>thinks wage slaving is a good oppurtunity

Just get the fuck out of my /biz/ already, grandpa. Please.

>>303187

Wageslaves are all too real, man. But sure... just trolling. Thanks for the headsup.

>>303188
>implying you can make money without spending money or time

nice bait m8

>>303183
I'm not a wageslave. I'm actually financially independent, and have an opportunity to go in front of a panel of venture capitalists in a few months. I got it through networking, vision, and determination. I also worked some real shit jobs in between. You know how I didn't get that opportunity? By calling everyone around me wageslaves and muppets.

To think that you're the only one looking for something more, that you're the only one intelligent enough to see the big picture is such an adolescent worldview.

I'm not going to hold the thread hostage. I'm just going to tell you that for all you're caterwauling, you're most likely no better than the CPA that gets up every day at 7, grinds at his desk for a few hours, then goes home.

>>303184
>The emperor has no clothes, and despite being told so multiple times, continues to lord his fine silks over us peasants.


What is the insinuation here?

You have a jerb so you are a certified expert now?

What is this mentality you have, and how did you develop it?

Someone who wants to be an entrepreneur, to you, is an emperor with no clothes.


When a kid goes out and starts a Lemonade stand and makes a dollar profit do you kick the stand over and call him a tryhard faggot "oooo mr. bigshot think you're rich now? THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES EVERYBODY, THIS KID DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A BUSINESS PLAN"

-

Just look at yourself, wage slave.

Look at yourself, wage slave.

Look at yourself.

Slave. Cancer. Enemy.

Company man.

>>303193
>all you're
All your*

le ebin wage slave même

>>303177
>this next level projecting
jesus christ
now I am confused

>>303193
>you're most likely no better than the CPA that gets up every day at 7, grinds at his desk for a few hours, then goes home.

I don't care, wage slave.

That's what you will never understand.

I get up in the morning and further pursue my path, I further my own business, I make my own money. I'm self-employed and don't have time to sit around comparing myself to wage slave faggots who are clocking in for someone else.

Don't you understand what this thread is about?

You can claim you're not a wage slave, but our minds are different, friend. Our minds are very different.

I have no need to spend time around people like you, not in real life or the internet, because you're shit.

>>303128
Yeh totally. A board that only cycles through posts once every 48 houra needs to be split in 2.

Makes so much sense.

Do you pay the bills on server costs OP?

>>303194
>Someone who wants to be an entrepreneur, to you, is an emperor with no clothes.

No. Somebody who takes on the title of entrepreneur as though it affords him immunity to any insult and immediately places him above those working under another entity is the proverbial emperor.

You're an idiot that can't follow a simple allusion. I doubt your ability to actualize yourself financially.

And despite being told multiple times, in no uncertain terms, why your attitude, ideas, and outlook are shit; you continue to act like a petulant child with something to prove. You get the fuck off of /biz/.

Penniless entrepreneur. Naked emperor.

>>303208

No, seriously, he's shitposting.

Look through the catalog and you can see it.

Filter "wage slave" and this board instantly gets better

>>303199

Wageslave tactic #5304

>Whatever, you're a NEET!

But I make money... on my own terms

>Whatever, you're on 4chan you're not allowed to be successful

Already addressed this

>Whatever, you're PROJECTING!

I already said I'm self-employed, just kill yourself already.

>>303208
>Penniless entrepreneur. Naked emperor.

What are you even talking about?

Being self-employed implies that I am making more than pennies.

>projection projection projection

Yeah... seriously.

>>303184
So we agree that your original claim is shit.

They might have worked a few shitty jobs, but no one would call them a wage slave for that, because they eventually started their own businesses. And not when they were 85 years old and shitting their diapers.

The limp dicked loser who wants a stable 60k/year career first will never amount to anything.

>>303211
I know. I argue with shitposters as a hobby when I'm bored on 4chan. They reply quickly, and it's a good way to practice maintaining cogency while arguing with infuriating people.

>>303217
>The limp dicked loser who wants a stable 60k/year career first will never amount to anything.

That's not what I said at all. Read the post. For whatever reason, everyone who parrots the points against "wage slaves" has a very hard time with reading comprehension.

>>303219

Have at it then.

This aspie is literally pressing f5 every other second. You can keep him here all day if you want

>>303224
The only person having problems with reading comprehension is you. Hey dumbfuck, no one is mad at people who hold jobs, which is what you seem to think, since you claimed we would have called Cuban and Buffet wage slaves because at some point in the distant past they worked for someone else.

We're tired of shit eating wage slaves whose only aspirations in life is to get promoted to management position and fill up a 401k.

>>303224
>That's not what I said at all. Read the post.

Just give it up, asshole. You are a wage slave with wage slave mentality, stop arguing.

The fact that you entered this thread to argue is proof enough, isn't it?

>>303225

>lels we're trolling him so hard

Wageslaves, please. Your life is someone else trolling you, don't you see?

>>303245
>no one is mad at people who hold jobs

Exactly.

>We're tired of shit eating wage slaves whose only aspirations in life is to get promoted to management position and fill up a 401k.

To be clear, we're tired of them shitposting here, which is basically all they do.

But yes, that.

Separate the board. It's not going to happen but it's what needs to happen.

Send all the wage slave faggots to their own board where they can discuss their strategies on how to retire by the age of 60 after following their perfect little financial and savings plans, please.

Send the entrepreneurs and everyone else looking to make money on their own terms to another board.


We have a majority of shit-sniffers who think having a job itself is some miraculous feat worthy of praise, and a minority of individuals struggling to rise above who get their threads and posts shit on by crab mentality faggots.

Make it clear for the 2nd /biz/ board that only those interested in working with money as entrepreneurs are welcome to post there. A secondary clause would be nice promoting only positive thinkers and constructive criticism because 100% of the shit-posting does in fact come from wage-slaves accusing the above of being NEETs etc.

You all know this to be true.

Do it now.

>>303253
>To be clear, we're tired of them shitposting here

>>303255

This thread has proven my argument far enough I think.

Separate us, /moot/

>>303269

>/moot/

Sh-shutup it's a real board now.
Seriously though, fucking separate us. You can't tell just by observing, the gap in average IQ between entrepreneurs and the wage-slavers?

You're making us rub elbows with children. With fucking cotton-pickers.

Separate us now please.

Fuck. We wanted memes. All we wanted was memes. Memes bring a board together. Now all we have is an r9k-tier insurgency of generalization and emotional shit-spewing


Its over. It was always over.

The only criteria for the new board should be your ability to sell a pen

This is a whole 'nother level of samefagging.

>>303188
Unless you own a business, deport yourself from this side of the argument.

>>303194
Difference being the kid is a child who had the tenacity to start a lemonade stand, while half of the "entrepreneurs" on /biz/ are man children unable to crawl out of their basement to build their nonexistent companies

>>303202
>Implying i cant get a low paying slave job
>implying my connections in this jerb wont further my near future self-employment goals


Being a polar NEET doesnt make you a smart entrepreneur. Accept it.

if anything the board should be split between finance-investing and shitcoin

>>303300

What if moot made it so that all cryptocurrencies went to either /vp/ or /mlp/?

>>303160
>Not even the loser faggot NEETs envy you.

right, i guess you don't. i'm here to talk business and finance though, not pipe dreams, so i don't care who envies me. that's the difference between you and i. you're on an imageboard trying to impress anonymous people with what you believe is the ideal mentality, when in reality nobody cares

>Long term steady careers are for losers, plain and simple.

yeah man, being unemployed and sucking up tax dollars for a feigned mental illness is the best life ever, huh?

>>303308

>>303128
you would only get 2 shit boards instead of one

>>303128
It's called Business and Finance, asshole. Nothing about that name suggests it's a board for self employed elitists alone.

>>303278
>This is a whole 'nother level of samefagging.

Because the forum doesn't have IDs or anything.

Calm down wageslave, it really is happening. We don't like you, we don't want you - the divide is here.

>>303276
>Fuck. We wanted memes. All we wanted was memes.

Just a tip to everyone - view this faggots ID and see the rest of his posts.


>we wanted memes
>you're all ruining my fun you r9k neet virgins

Kill all wageslaves.

>>303280

I already mentioned I was self-employed. You're embarrassing yourself.

Wageslaves, you are embarrassing. If you aren't intelligent enough to provide for yourself what makes you think you can argue with self-made people? Please move on.

>>303310
>yeah man, being unemployed and sucking up tax dollars for a feigned mental illness is the best life ever, huh?

Being self-employed is the best-life ever.

You've missed the entire point of being born in America. Good job.

>>303335
>Being self-employed is the best-life ever.

what is your business?

>>303128

I lewling at the fact people think 4chan is a place for serious entrepreneurs and wealthy elites to hang out at and discuss ideas with other like minded people in a serious fashion.

>>303310
> you're either a wage slave, or a NEET on welfare sucking up tax dollars. Entrepreneurs don't exist.

This is you. This is how retarded you sound.

> so i don't care who envies me
Except 20 or so posts ago, where you essentially said

> u jelly?
No, not jelly at all.

>>303351
if you're not jealous, why do you care so much about what other people are doing with their lives to the point that you want a board separate from them?

again, i'm asking you what your business is.

Jesus, having colored IDs make this just look depressing.

OP: Seek professional help. You sound delusional, and not in the "your business will never work!" sense, but in the "you don't seem mentally all there" sense.

>>303341

>tell me exactly what you do
>timestamp bank statement
>show me a picture of your actual cock so I can be sure it's big

This wage-slave faggot maneuver has also been mentioned ITT already, wage slave faggot.

You really think being self-employed is some mythical achievement?

>>303358
>if you're not jealous, why do you care so much about what other people are doing with their lives to the point that you want a board separate from them?

Because you wage slaves are aggressive cancer. You are cancer. You know what this thread is, you know what the point is, you're still arguing because you're caaaaaancer bro.

We just want to be well. We want to be free of you. Deal with it.

>>303374
>my dad works for nintendo but no i cant show you any games bc you're beneath me

game over folks

>>303364

What about this post contributes to the topic.

>inb4 convoluted argument

This is shitposting. You're a shitposter. A wage slave.

You're all shit. We deserve a separate board.

>lol u so buttmad

I'm aware I'm posting a lot. Someone out there agrees with me though, if not many people. Just deal with it.

>>303386
>We deserve a separate board.

you guys already have /r9k/, /mlp/ and /co/

what more do you want

>>303381

What do you want from me?

What do you want from a self-employed person before you can leave them alone?

I'm obviously not allowed to claim self-employment until I verify myself through you - so what credentials do you need? Be specific.

While you're at it, make it a sticky because you wageslaves pull this shit so often that it's reaching meme status.

You shouldn't judge others. Those who want to have a normal job, with a wife and kids, are entitled to. Those who want to own their business are entitled to. Those who want to mine/buy altcoins are entitled to. Everyone is different, and everyone has different goals and aspirations. Don't tear each other down. Build one another up.

>>303388

>If you're not a wage slave with us you're a NEET VIRGIN

This, like a million other things, has already been addressed ITT.

The worst thing about you wageslaves is that you insist on repeating yourself and make others repeat things to you.

You prove time and again that you post in threads impulsively without reading it, or even effectively skimming it.

Carry on shitposting wageslave. Just further proving my point.

>>303394
i'm not even calling you autistic for your opinions anymore

you're just acting like a complete fool at this point.

the more of this thread i read, the more sorry i feel for you. you seem a bit sick in the head. grasping at straws, so miserable in life that all you want to do is make everyone around you just as miserable as well.

>>303348
>I lewling at the fact people think 4chan is a place for serious entrepreneurs

This was already addressed ITT.

Have I not outlined a pattern yet? Proven that it exists?

I have. This is a real issue, wage slavers shitposting (the worst kind of shitposting too, where they outright ignore things that have already been posted) -

and it's observable in this very thread.

Resting my case now.

>>303128

>>303397

>AD homs and shits self

Go to bed sweetheart. Don't forget to remind us how you were just trolling all along, first.

>>303128
you said who shouldn't be here not who shud

>>303394

Oh more lewls. Seriously, has no one realized they are posting on 4chan? The site that has a board just for cartoon images with girls with dicks?

If you really were the awesome sauce you say you are, you'd be on one of those moderated websites that you have to apply to.

>>303400
no trolling here gurl, just wondering why you care so much that some people want to get a job and work for a living.

>>303128
So where are you in life?

>>303403
He's either trolling or mentally gone. Either way it's a pretty boring answer.

>>303402

>But this is 4chan, that is all the excuse I need to shitpost

I understand you think this way, wageslaves, I do.

>>303409
>>303403

Classic wageslaves working together to triangulate.

Political maneuver relying on strength in numbers because let's face it, if you had backbones you wouldn't be wageslaves.


>it's all about the OP now and not the topic
>cmon guys let's all gang up on OP

Do it, it doesn't matter. Just know that your pattern of behavior is childish as fuck to someone who can see through it, and the fact that you can't see your own behavior is a concrete sign of child-like minds in operation.

>>303402

Op is baiting, but it blows my mind the number of people coming here and expecting 100% serious discussion.

There are plenty of legit finance forums out there. If people like op were serious, they go to those. You will be flat out banned and laughed at if you start role playing or shilling cryptos on those sites

>>303415
i bet you tuck your weiner between your legs and look in the mirror telling yourself how pretty you are

>>303415
Master trole

New idea: Permaban OP from this board for autist-level faggotry. All in favor say aye.

>>303421
He can just reset his IP.

>>303412

Oh the comedy ensues. If you are self employed, your time is your money. Therefore we are actually making you making you waste valuable money by making you shit post and blather about how wage slaves are the scum of the earth.

But as you are trying to troll on a site known for trolling, I think you aren't gaining any real entertainment out of either.

Or did you try to join a real entrepreneur board and they rejected you?

The wage slave troll is our first meme

>>303128
OP here, I'm out. Enjoy your /job/ board wageslaves.

>lel we scared him off

You really fucking did, this is true. Great work. Plus I've wasted a ton of time here already. Seen enough.

>>303418
>Op is baiting, but it blows my mind the number of people coming here and expecting 100% serious discussion.


I wasn't baiting. Also, I'm not that upset I just like to type fast,and a lot. I'm autistic too probably, and sperged out, who cares?

Wageslavers have destroyed this board, I've seen it try to struggle to it's feet with multiple entrepreneur threads that just get shit on and destroyed by the wageslaves.


I've seen countless threads on investing shit on and ruined by wageslaves.

Unless a thread praises the work-a-day lifestyle, or getting a jerb, wageslaves will destroy it.

Since there is no hope of this board changing, and since the maxim for wageslaves is now "yeah but this is 4chan and we're all losers" (it wasn't always that, this board had balls a couple months back, but it's too late now).

I'm out.

>>303421

No need, I'm gone. This is my last post on /biz/ and anyone who agreed with me will eventually come to the same conclusion I am.

Pearls before swine.

Pearls before swine.

>>303425
>If you are self employed, your time is your money.

So true, I have lots to spare since I choose my own hours and just vary the rates I charge clients depending on how much slack I want to pick up.

I actually had fun here a while back but now it's beyond r9k as far as loser mentality goes, and wage slaves are religious about remaining mediocre. This just isn't the place for me anymore,

I could spend this time working harder but why bother? I'm making ends meet and seeing growth as it is. Just thought I'd see 4chan blossom in this field, because I was on /fit/ when we determined this board needed to be made. Protip: We were all taking about making big money, not getting jerbs.

Great move that was.

>>303442
>I'm autistic too probably, and sperged out

This was a joke for you actual autists by the way (this place is flooded, I've seen sarcasm go over people's heads so many times here).

I wouldn't be self-employed if I weren't able to land and keep clients which requires some amount of social tact. I'm a complete asshole on the internet for all I know though.

Cya /biz/

>>303442
>>303445
Alright have fun with your imaginary business buddy

>>303128
Nothing in life sounds worse to me then working for a set paycheck 9-5.

I know that's being dramatic, but that sounds worse then death.

Image related, part of muh pet food label

>>303128
> a clause for only positive thinkers

You are the biggest retard on 4chan. This is my first time visiting this shit hole and this is what I find.

I manage the people that manage wage slaves. Feels good man.

>>303456

>taking it all 100% literally

Remember what I said about the autists, everyone. The wageslaves are rabid about their own insecurity and projection.

Just the other day saw another do the same thing to someone else, miss a blatant sarcastic post or idea and just fly off the handle.

>>303450

These people really are mouthbreathers, save yourself. Don't argue with them, just know that it's true, 9-5 on a salary or wage really is shit, it really is slavery. When you work 10% harder for your boss you will not see that 10% returned to you.

>>303456

>>303128
>coming to a business forum to literally be a shitposting negative asshole commie
>not coming to support others or learn how to biz

Everyone with an ounce of business initiative or tact - RUN FROM THIS PLACE. The majority has made it clear that they want to continue worshipping job-holders (and themselves) - that's as high as their sights will ever go. If you are better than that - move on. This board really was just for crypto containment.

>>303473
I like to think that the people who don't believe in being successful as an entrepreneur are the reason the one's who attempt it succeed.

I wonder about that to myself a lot lately, what makes so many people not pursue their own business.

I think I'm stupidly positive, in that this might lead to my ruin financially, but I think that blind optimism is required to run your own business

>>303473
So again, what have YOU achieved?

>>303477
>what makes so many people not pursue their own business.

A combination of cowardice and genuine lack of intelligent/talent.

Some people are just born without it. Hence the need for separate communities. You can't expect winners to rub elbows with losers. This board was 4chans one shot (besides /fit/) to have actual goal-setters and people accomplish things, support eachother, etc.

Cya.

>>303478

>seriously, show me your dick

Shh, we know. Self-employment is impossible, I'm lying, etc.

Good luck to you bro.

>>303486
>intelligent
*intelligence

Wageslaves will argue all day and night about how they are equal to self-employed people, until their boss is in the room with them. Remember that.

>>303486
>>303487
I'm all for self-employment, but I think you're heading towards a slippery slope if you automatically place the people who prefer wages over their own business.

Just because their goals differ, doesn't make them less noble goals. And I think the people that work under you will really pick up on that "Holier than thou" attitude.

I'm looking for my first hires for salesmen and I really want to have a we're all equal type of feel to my business.

I understand that they chose to work for someone other then themselves for reasons that aren't my own, but that doesn't put them below me.

>>303487
Seriously?

>>303488
Weren't you going to stop posting already?

You sound like some delusional MLM shill at this point. All talk about "business" and "achieving goals" and literally zero actual discussion of business.

>>303498
>literally zero actual discussion of business

Welcome to /job/

>>303487
I took a nap and come back to you regurgitating this same shit?

What area are you in? Good or service? Just answer that. If you sell a good, I'll purchase $1,000 worth. I don't need it and was going to dick around with a penny stock on Monday, but I'll throw some money down.

I run a fledgeling side business in addition to the shit I'm going in front of the VC panel for. It's telecommunicative jewelery for people in relationships. There's my cock; let's see yours.

You're posting pretty frequently for somebody who left this board forever a half hour ago, OP.

>>303503
So make a thread? Jesus, is it that difficult?

If you spent this much energy on a thread about... whatever it is you want to talk about, people would respond.

>>303506
Not him, but I'll sell you 1k worth of cat food. Which would be 125 16oz jars worth.

Pic related, one of my first labels right now.

I'm hoping to begin some rough drafts with metal cans and retort packaging soon.

>>303520
I know it's rough, but I'm still getting the process of completely filling jars for processing without fucking up the actual processing.

The jars need to be full and uniform to look good, but you get a failure rate of 30% when filling them up to the point of looking full

>>303506

Services m8, I already stated I can vary the rate I charge by hour to offset the time I've wasted here.

Probably a mistake though.

>>303520
>>303523
This may be an odd question, but have you tasted the cat food yourself?

>>303508
>If you spent this much energy on a thread about... whatever it is you want to talk about, people would respond.

No, that's not how it works here.

99% of you are wage slaves or NEETs. And anyone posting threads about the topics I'm interested in (entrepreneur ventures) will be ignored or accused of being a NEET with pipedreams.

What I'm saying is correct. I am right. I am smarter than the majority of you and so are other entrepreneur-minded individuals here. I've just wasted time voluntarily here and realize it's gotta stop now.

When I want it to stop. Maybe I'll post again ITT. Maybe I won't. Maybe I should call the boss and ask, right wagefags?

>>303520
Nah. You aren't a flaming autist. I like the minimalist packaging you have now. I'd imagine the market that splurges on all natural cat food would be the same type to appreciate green packaging, so I don't know if I'd make the move to retort packaging. You'd probably get bigger margins, but IMHO you'd be better served looking for a cheap, green alternative.

Wax-coated, recycled cardboard comes to mind. Almost the way they package ready to bake biscuits.

Either way, good luck to you, anon.

>>303525
What's the service? You can keep that broad as well, though why you insist on doing so is anybody's fucking guess.

>>303529
I have actually, it's all human grade ingredients I use, but even implying it can be eaten on the label incurs the wrath that is FDA regulations.

>>303533
Retort packaging is so fucking sexy though.

I'm definitely sticking the minimalist/jars while I'm doing everything myself, but I definitely what offer a diverse line ranging from Fancy Feast esque tier, all the raw to purely raw diets, which will be a bitch logistically and out of my reach as a 1-man operation at the moment.

Thanks for the words of encouragement though

>>303532
Maybe the reason people don't care about what you post is that you aren't saying anything?

If you replied this much your thread would be pretty much impossible to ignore, if nothing else based on board position.

If you can't handle being called a NEET on an anonymous imageboard how in the fuck do you think you're going to succeed in business?

I hope you bring better focus than this to your business ventures, real or imagined.

>>303541
>Maybe the reason people don't care about what you post is that you aren't saying anything?

It just went straight over your head (expected as much) didn't it?

Now it's all about me again, not the topic - it's about one person. This is the mind of a political weakling, or a wageslave. Stop making it about me.

No threads for entrepreneurs get footing here. This is not a place for entrepreneurs. This is a domain for wage slaves. That's the issue, why are you still arguing with a valid issue that can be proven just by browsing this exact thread?

>>303540
>Thanks for the words of encouragement though

Sure thing. It's hard to get shit started out as a one man outfit. Pet food looks like a highly fractured and lucrative market, so finding your niche seems important to me. I think the look and message of your brand are huge selling points as it stands, and I wouldn't want to lose that by becoming another brightly-colored face in the aisle. If you could find some differently textured almost burlap-y kind of packaging for the retort, that'd be sweet. Either way, keep it up.

Glad to see you actually following your dreams, though.

>>303547
You're arguing the superiority of your ideology despite not obtaining any admiral qualities or accolades through your methods.

Is 'beating the man' and being a self-employed rich fuck awesome? Yeah for some people (including myself). However, your goals =/= everyone's goals. Fuck off and go work on your 'fledgling' business so you can totally meet up with some VCs in the near future.

>>303547
>it's about one person
Because you've made this thread about you. Every reply you've made has included an insult directed at the person you're replying to. You're saying that people should stop insulting each other and discuss the topic when you're incapable of doing so yourself?

>proven just by browsing this exact thread?
All I see in this thread is that when someone posts with no intention other than flaming everyone on the board, they get laughed at.

You aren't providing evidence, you aren't advancing a position (other than "f u wage slaves"), or raising any remotely interesting points. Surprisingly enough, the replies you've gotten have had a similar level of content.

>>303552
You're probably right about the retort packaging, I guess it just really appeals to me personally because it's 1. Cool as fuck, 2. Very visually appealing to me.

You're actually one of very few to say they like the look, I've gotten a TON of negative feedback about the jar + simplistic look.

But I think you're right about the niche I'm shooting for, I think they will like the rusitc "old time" look of having a glass jar and kraft paper label.

But ultimately the market is the decider/creator of products and images that work, so I'm trying not to get too confident about a look that I may like, when the market could reject it on the reason that is different from the standard pet food packaging you see.

>>303547

>No threads for entrepreneurs get footing here. This is not a place for entrepreneurs.

Then go somewhere else. There are other websites that have message boards for entrepreneurial minded individuals to discuss issue that pertain to them.

Wouldn't this be a much better use of your time? Or is your time of so little value that you can fritter it away arguing with people on an anonymous image board?

>>303559
Pet food packaging almost always has pictures of pets on it. Pet food commercials always show more pets than pet food.

We buy pet food because we like our pet and want them to live, not because we think the pet food is tasty. Pet food itself is kind of gross.

>>303559
I would try to find out something about my customer base then. Something as simple as asking a local pet shop to let you set up a booth for a day to market. Note who buys your stuff and ask them for feedback.

I don't think you're really at the focus group stage, but by doing the aforementioned, you could get some great brand exposure in the local community and some direct feedback.

>>303567
A local produce stand here has few on the shelves, and I'm actually meeting with a local pet store owner who graduated from the same school as I did to just sit down and talk about the food/pet food industry.

I'm also headed to the farmer's market this coming weekend for my first "debut".

Then following that week I'm meeting with someone from a consulting firm that deals exclusively with pet products.

I still feel like there's so much I'm not doing though, the stress is starting to set in about failing

op, why are you being such a faggot?

I think it's ironic that you aspire to own a business, yet you would not have any respect for your employees. do you think people want to work for someone who is so arrogant, so disrespectful, so deluded by his own ego? and further, when your customers/clients see this type of behavior, do you honestly think they are going to deal business with you? I can tell you most people would refuse hiring someone who is such an outright cunt, especially if they have no redeeming quality. I can also tell you, you're going to fail as a business man if you're exuding this type of persona.

Also, you don't enter this world as an expert in every aspect of industry. Most of these skills are learned through experience. And even if you have formal education, it won't be any help if you don't know when, where, and how to apply what you've learned. This is why it makes sense to enter industry and then negotiate with the company to pay for your education.

Now, let's talk about "wage slaves." I agree that majority of the people in the developed nations squander opportunity, but for someone with no money, no experience, no education have no choice but to work their way up from square one. To those with risks such as a family, debts, etc etc can't off and invest all their savings into a business. The risk of losing EVERYTHING is REAL. Furthermore, if they're so reckless to do it, they're also risking the future and welfare of themselves as well as their children.

Business is so much more than having an idea.

what the fuck is this thread

>>303128
Everybody needs to calm the fuck down, AND SHORT PRAN. Fucking plebs.

>>303571
>I still feel like there's so much I'm not doing though, the stress is starting to set in about failing

Don't let it get to you. It sounds like you're doing everything right. I lost out on a 6 figure job and $2 million up front on my first foray into the market. Got out there, didn't capitalize or protect myself, then put it on a backburner to return to school. Someone took my shit and ran with it.

You can't let the lows get you down. You'll die that way. Good luck with all the meetings, anon. I think you've got something there.

>>303579
I figure we're all more then likely going to be in debt in some form or another, so why not go down swinging in the meantime?

what does /biz/think of cash croppers?

>>303562

No, I know I'm being autistic, I probably am autistic -

and I've been referred to other forums already.

I just had high hopes I guess. But I realize at this point I'm just being an asshole.

Sorry everyone. I still don't like you, but sorry.

>>303572
>Business is so much more than having an idea.

I'm already self-employed I know this. I literally deal with idea people all day and making their visions real.

I'm not sure who you were really talking to.

>>303128
>You all know this to be true.

No you sound like a massive faggot.

I think our autistic OP is right.

I myself am currently a wage slave, but I do agree with what he says. Do I want to be working all hours of the week? Hell no.

Do I want to be my own boss? Hell yes.

If you are ok with working for somebody else, cool I guess. There is a word for people like that, it is called "loser".

I am currently a loser, but I am doing everything in my power to stop being one.

>>303652

>There is a word for people like that, it is called "loser".

This is what autistic children actually believe. A loser would be someone who isn't working period. You can cry about wage slaves all you want and constantly blabber on about how you are going to be your own boss and make a good income. Until you do both YOU are the loser.

Deal with it.

>>303656
>A loser would be someone who isn't working period.

Kill all wageslaves.

>>303663

Well... where am I wrong? So all it takes to not be a loser is sit at home and simply spout on /biz/ that I am contemplating business ideas?

Well shit, I had it all wrong. Time to quit my job and join the elite class of potential business owners.

>>303656

>Until you do both YOU are the loser

I did say I am CURRENTLY a loser till I do both. Here let me help point that out for you in my post. I understand how emotional you may be right now, you might have missed it.

>>303652

>I am currently a loser, but I am doing everything in my power to stop being one.

>I am currently a loser

There you go, I hope I was able to help you.

>>303669

wow... there is a lot of losers in the world.

I hope someday it works out for you and you can stop being a loser.

>>303672

I completely agree, there ARE alot of losers in this world. Its those willing to work hard + a bit of luck that separate you from them.

I don't think i'll stop being a loser till i'm +40 years old and that is if i'm lucky. I have a solid realistic plan to get what I want in life. I've crossed some tough hurdles already but I am still only 1/4 of the way to what I want.

>>303442
>This is my last post on /biz/

Hahaha, I really am autistic, I admit it now.

This board is still a joke though, and I guess I realize that. It was all a joke, haha good one, moot!

You got me. You all got me. I posted a lot on this board, as far as I know I've been the most active user. I've been self-employed for over ten years, I've never been rich, I won't show you my bank account, suck a cock I'm out.

>>303683
>I won't show you my bank account

c'mon man, show us that $630

>>303128
>Yeah, guys, I dropped out of middle school and just started my own business without any connections, skills, knowledge, or connection. I started out making $1M a day and now make $5M a day. And I only work a few hours a day. Yeah, just like what I fantasize after watching those infomercials all day lon...eh, I mean, just like what happens in my every day life when I am not just sitting at home masturbating to My Little Ponies. Lolz wage slaves are so dumbz.

Seriously, the only cancer on this board are NEET faggots who post their retarded pipe dreams on here every day.

Fuck off OP

>>303128
>I didnt finish high school
>i didnt go to college
>I'm now 35 and its too late
>seeing all of these younger successful people pisses me off, and I want them to be on another board.

>>303128
I really had hopes for this board... but morons that may or may not be trolling just ruin it, rampant speculation is not investing, day trading is not a game, it takes years of technical analyses and even then the long term weighted returns are similar to index funds.

This is a very strange troll attempt

>>304046

/v/ - /b/ with video games
/a/ - /b/ with anime
/jp/ - /b/ with weaboos
/sci/ - /b/ with math work work
/biz/ - /b/ with cryptos
/pol/ - /b/ with stormfront
/s4s/ - /b/ with tumblr
/k/ - /b/ with guns
/sp/ - /b/ with basketball
/mu/ -/b/ with hipster music
/fa/ - /b/ with hipster clothing
/tv/ /b/ with hipster televsion

The only legit boards are /an/, /DIY/, /3/, and /tg/, but they're heavily moderated and slow boards

>>303689
I only have ~ 1500 plus 2000 credit and I would not show you my account.

>>304054
You are right, even though I have only tried
/v/
/biz/
and
/mu/
well that and /b/

>>304054

I am working on a degree in finance... I thought I might see something interesting.

>>303128
Agreed. I hate viewing threads about someone's trades on the Forex and how, "by using their combination of technical and fundamental data" will be sure to earn up 10 PIPS!! W0W! Cool! You'll for sure be a millionaire by your 60 after bankrupting twice from day trading!

Oh, and another Sony has a 1000% chance of failing thread!

Can't forget about the new scam coin thread being typed up as we speak.

Rounding it up on /biz/ another "How much do you earn and what's your degree" thread.

Business and Finance surely is a broad spectrum, but this board is full of faggots who think they're superior because they have a job/"major investments" and get on here to boost their ego, people crying because they can't find a job with their finance master race degree, shit coin shills, and the people struggling to just get ahead in life to employ the shit-heads who think they're the shit with their degree.

If you don't think this board needs a split, then you're stupid.

>>304054
>>304063
>>304066

You haven't seen /fit/. It once was a bastion of hope and success but word of our spoils spread. It is gone now. No one remembers M except, perhaps, a few other than I.

I seldom post and only watch the things on this site, mostly. This board founding came when I became interested in business while throwing a football around with a frenemy who is pursuing an MBA after success in mech eng.

Guys, it's 4chin. You have many walks of life, many ages, and as I have witnessed on this board a global demographic. Enjoy it all. I see those PnD crypto threads and smile. Someone may be making a mint. Although it is soundly unethical it is an inherent risk in the /biz/ world.

All of this buttmad coming from one person? Well, on the plus side, at least he contains it to his own thread. I have no idea why this same guy is always aspie raging about "wage slaves" and wants to make this board into his own.

Try telling us that someone working in an investment bank doesn't belong on the Business & Finance board. Good luck earning minimum wage in your own business, OP. You'll need it. Making websites is competitive and pays little.

This website needs two more boards

/uni/ - for all college related shit
>what should I major in
>what college should I go to
>how to throw a party

and

/job/ - for all job/career/internship related stuff
>muh jerb application
>job openings
>resume help
>AMA career threads


because I see more pick muh major, give me a job, and what is best career threads than actual business, investment, and economic discussion threads

>>303559
I think the paw design should be less cougar-y and more cat-y if that makes sense lol

>>304419
Originally it was this, but after a bit of feedback, the cougar ish paw won out because it clearly tells the consumer that it's cat food with just one glance

>>304054

>/s4s/ - /b/ with tumblr

/s4s/ is just shitposting incarnate. Not much to do with anything tumblr related.

Why the fuck have you guys not reported this thread already, 6/10 troll healthy try but his trolling deteriorated.

Dear god.... people this stupid actually exist? HOW ARE YOU STILL HUMAN?????

>visit this board a few times.
>see no sagely advice anywhere.
>want to check it out today for abit while waiting to make a call back. read a few threads and skim op's thread

i think op is right. most of the threads i've seen on this board have been about cryptocurrency or people asking if they should invest in gold/siver.

its get rich quick shit for the most part.

this board is defective by design (people who can game the system will never reveal those secrets.)

basically what im saying is the boat has sailed.

>>304632
Designer here. I guess you could develop a more 'unique' logo, the paw itself doesn't say straight out that it's for cats, only that it's for animals.

I guess you could look into more cat-esque symbols
>cat nose with whiskers
>closed cat eyes and ears (like two diagonal curved lines for eyes and two triangles on top, think japanese cat emoticons)
>cat muzzle (nose and a :3 smile, without eyes)

Try to think of something modern/sophisticated, using paws for pet merchandise is probably the most overused idea in that niche.

>>304632

not designer here

the minimalist paw is fine, but if you're looking for something more rustic, ma & pa like, then a caricature of a lion never hurts. or a cougar.

>>303128
>Send all the wage slave faggots to their own board
>Make it clear for the 2nd /biz/ board that only those interested in working with money as entrepreneurs are welcome to post there
So what stays on this board then?

>>303128
>Send all the wage slave faggots to their own board
>Send the entrepreneurs and everyone else looking to make money on their own terms to another board

So who actually gets to stay on /biz/ then?

>>303128

>>306212
>this board is defective by design (people who can game the system will never reveal those secrets.)

There is good finicial discussion on this board but like you said, it is plagued with "how to get rich", "sell me this pen", "I have 10k, what do with it??".

There should be a sticky on deterring this and on basic finance.

>>306310
What would you put in the sticky, though? This board is still new and figuring out its identity. It will be hard for people to agree on what goes into a sticky. You will get faggots like OP who try to make this a board of "people who agree with me on everything".