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BOOBA

Which rope should I use to hang myself with?

>Hes going to buy the "dip"

>WHY DOES EVERYBODY GO LONG?
why don't we go to closing days with no position open?

reminder

>>30259253
Hanyuu can you make me loop?

>>30259340
i buy now, if its still down in a week i buy with my other cash, if its still down in two weeks, wallah i have a paycheck, i buy

what's that? have 40% of your precious portfolio left bulls? How about 20% left after tomorrow?

We mega dumped AH yesterday.
Aren't you concerned for today?

>>30259343
because buying and selling every day is retarded for capital gains and the fact that like 70% of all gains are overnight.

looks like I'm waking up to a green market. Based

>>30259299
Dangerously based.

Europe is only selling because you burgers sold AH. This is your fault.

>looking at various positions
>realize i bought the exact bottom in march 2020
>only like $2000 worth of SPY
ouch

>>30259368
Dumbass gay ass meme chart, what kind of a monkey made this

June dump was 9%, september dump was 11%. Does this one look different somehow?

>USA will collapse in less than 5 years
>Europe is fucked too
>You can't trust China on investments
Is it time to invest in India and hope that they don't implode?

>gevo is down to 6 dollars
i bought at 12 what the fuck>?

>>30259394

How long are you prepared to catch falling knives?

>>30259400
If I sell my last stocks tomorrow Ill be at a net positive for the year. Probably just gonna wait it out. I figure if it goes down to where I break even, at least I didnt lose any money. Well except for paying taxes.

>>30259343
d-did somebody call brap patrol?

>>30259459
Yes, yes. Buy many biomemes and TSLA. Support many good worker Indians. We fight porcelain devil.

>>30259368
this is unironically what 2021 is going to look like. This retarded golden bull can only be stopped with interest rates

>>30259456
Well that's what it's going to happen. I have been investing in USA for 7 years and cashed out in all my American positions last week.

>>30259483
Until I bleed to death

>>30259458
powell just ditched us for the time being so yes.

Is there any good reason to have any bond position?

SOXS chads here

>>30259483
I don't think this chart is communicating what you think it is

>>30259368
yeah where the fuck are we? why not just lable an actual chart with the dates on it?

>>30259343
This is an Islamic board, im afraid that thotpost violates sharia and there will be consequences for spreading haram content here.

>>30259570
Redpill me on SOXS?

>>30259459
>>30259512
Is there a poo to energy tech

>>30259525
Thats good to know Sven, I've been invested for twice as long and the weird meme chart just makes no sense compared to the phases in the traditional "denial-capitulation-acceptance" meme chart

>>30259599
What is it communicating, genius?

>>30259483
it doesn't matter when you buy every month.

ok.. THIS! is the bottom

>>30259525
What point would you say we are at now anyway?

HOLY FUCK NASDUMP BREACHED 12400 ITS FUCKING OVER

>>30259620
it's a bear inverse etf for semiconductors.

>>30259716
no it's not.

Puts on nearly anything will print

>Futures dumping

>down 20% on TSLA

>VIX futures are almost positive again
And with that I wish you all a good night.

i do have to say, this is a pretty brutal chart

JEROME
COME ON OUT
I JUST WANT TO HAVE A NICE FRIENDLY CHAT ABOUT THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF MY PORTFOLIO

>hmm yes im so smart, bought spacs at NAV, those are basically cash but with the possibility of going up heheheh
>now >10% under NAV
Im a dumbooooo, should have kept muh paper.

>>30259599

It's communicating that you can DCA for years on end and still not break even. If you DCA'd through the early 2000s, you would have waited until 2006-2007 to recoup your losses, and then you would have lost everything again if you weren't astute enough to sell.

Do you think the last 10 years of growth are going to continue indefinitely? For the next five years, even?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Okay so this is a bit of DD about SOXL.
What I am about to show is that this should basically be impossible statistically speaking that a cycle would repeat itself with this accuracy. As questionable as TA sometimes may be, this particular analysis is not even complicated or reading tea leafs, this is just comparing past declines with the current one.

The percent decline of Feb 14th to March 19th 2020 of SOXL is exactly the same as the percent decline of Feb 16th to yesterday (March 4th).

>>30259848
how low do you think most spacs will go though?

>>30259610
muhammed is a dirty pigfucker and allah is the pig

>>30259845
Kek

When does the dip end

>>30259889
I honestly dont know, hopefully not much. My losses are pretty subdued compared to my risk hungry friends but i still feel like a tard. Ive traded CEFs for years and those can stay under NAV forever, whats stopping spacs from doing the same.

Okay so this is a bit of DD about SOXL.
What I am about to show is that this should basically be impossible statistically speaking that a cycle would repeat itself with this accuracy. As questionable as TA sometimes may be, this particular analysis is not even complicated or reading tea leafs, this is just comparing past declines with the current one.

The percent decline of Feb 14th to March 19th 2020 of SOXL is exactly the same as the percent decline of Feb 16th to yesterday (March 4th).

>>30259873
>TWO WEEKS?

>>30259942
When Jpow finally gives in to the market. Right now he is the bogdanoff.

>Hedgies are tanking my stock so they can cover short positions
It is a great time to buy and you would be retarded to sell

>>30259852
>If you DCA'd through the early 2000s, you would have waited until 2006-2007 to recoup your losses
>what are dividends

>>30259942
When they feel enough retail is out of the market.

OPEN SO I CAN BUY PLEASE TSLA CHEAPIES

>>30259852

Anyone who had been steadily putting money in the market since well before 2000 would break a profit much earlier than 2006. Only in some bizarre world where you start DCA'ing at the absolute top of the dotcom bubble and then continue to do so all the way down, would your premise hold. Literally nobody would do that. This chart is just more proof that time in the market beats timing the market.

>>30259966
if i wasn't in spacs i would have gone cash a long time ago. i'm pissed at all the shitty spacs that fucked it up but i guess i'm in mine for the long run now.

>>30260012

A total non-sequitur. Dividends would not have recouped your losses through that turmoil. Who's even talking about dividends here? This was in response to comments about "buying the dip".

Why has there absolutely no discussion on /smg/ about oil mooning during a dump?
Why did nobody buy oil?
I went all in last Friday planning to hold for a year and it just dunked on EVERYTHING even crypto.

Aphria and Tilray both lost massively - 12% since yesterday. This better correct ifself today or I'll feel sick over the weekend.

>>30259942
Democrats are in the middle of passing their keystone legislation while their political capital is at its apex. Do you really think they're going to allow a market crash to overshadow their first major legislative achievement since wresting power from Trump after four years of non-stop kvetching? Use some common sense.

>>30260003
What do you expect him to do?

>>30260040
>Literally nobody would do that
Funny how a huge amount of retail investors just entered the market as a result of muh gamestop

in 4 more days it will be an entire month where I've made no money, just completely flat lined. feels weird bros

>>30260094
democrats? what? it's all bloodlines man

>>30260074
nah
dividends and steadily putting money on the market would make you break a profit much sooner than you said

>>30260108
Operation Twist and print more money to tank the DXY.

THE NASDAQ IS KILLING ME

>>30260146
Either way the point stands. In more intelligent times economics was correctly referred to as political economy.

well my portfolio is in the red. at this point do I realize my losses so I can at least claim them for 2021 and then enter back in later?

I hate tech and and I hate the nasdaq fuck youuuuu

>>30260056
Im just going to sell covered calls at NAV and eventually the spac will eventually dissolve or merge allowing me to cash in at 10. But that can take for up to two years. Fug.

>>30260160

Nobody here mentioned anything about dividends until you brought it up as a goalpost-shifting maneuver.

"Buying the dip" works, if you're prepared to wait years, potentially, for a positive return. The "le remember your training ;)" posters are in for a rude awakening if they think what we're seeing right now is a "dip".

>>30260086
The gains in oil are not enough if you are balls deep in meme tech. A lot of this general got roped into the Cathie cult so they don't even have money on the side for now. They will just keep buying "the dip" on TSLA

>>30260221
What do you think we're seeing?

i-it’s not like you trade with margin right anon?

>>30260249

The beginning of a real, multi-year bear market.

>>30260215
Do you trade with no thesis? How can anyone tell you what to do without knowing your positions are your thesis? Has your thesis changed or do you just say "line go down, me sad now, me sell"

I mean seriously what the fuck.

>>30260139
I think investors isnt the right word for a bunch of retard that scrambled to get signed up on robinhood so they could dump their last paycheck on GME. Their experience in the markets would always be a bad one no matter how or when they enter.

>>30259253
>>30259253
Why is does Monday's calls look like this, when...

>>30259459
>india will be the dominant super power
WORST TIMELINE

>>30260139
i've basically receded to the point i was at before the gme stuff happened now that you mention it wtf

>>30260221
remember your training
i did and bought in march, september, february, and march again. And i have more cash left to buy more

>>30260249
>>30260160
Meds. Now

>>30260287
Why would you think that when the world's just about to try and recover from basically a one in a hundred year event?

>>30260310
>no true investor

Still beside the point.

>>30260221
>>30260287

Show us your short positions and puts Nostradamus.

>>30260086
Because they're bitter and have been calling us oilfags all week, saying we're being too smug

>>30260314
...today's (Thursday's) calls look like this? What the actual fuck am I missing? I feel fucking retarded.

>>30259459
Gonna invest in the toilet industry

>>30260318
What training? This isn't a dip except in memes. Non-memes will do fine. Hopefully you were buying THAT dip on non-memes.

I'm torn on selling everything to maintain what little gains I have left and waiting for things to settle down and resume an uptrend, or just waiting it out and potentially losing thousands more. I dont want to sell the bottom and miss a 5% rally day but I also dont want to lose 10 more % if this keeps going

>>30260094
Do you really think they can stop it? Answer: no they can't.

>>30260221
buying the dip works if you sell some back every rare green day, if you buy all dips and hold all dips and never sell on any pops then obviously you're not going to do as well. no lines go straight down without a few exit bounces here and there

>>30260339
How is it besides the point? I showed how your thesis is bullshit. The fact that GME "investors" will lose money is completely irrelevant to anyone.

>>30260373
if you buy anything other than tqqq or soxl in a total market sell off, unless there are some really great companies (like TSM and NET) being hit disproportionally, youre just leaving money on the table

>>30260389
wallah: the equity risk premium, explained

>>30259969
I don’t understand

>>30260399
I actually laughed.

Tomorrow's the dead cat bounce before the world ends, right?

>>30260323
Suck my cock faggot, and while you're at it kill yourself.

>>30260417
>still refusing to buy the dip on banks, energy, utilities, and even REITs
>angry_bald_man_is_confused.jpg

>>30260094
>Do you really think they're going to allow a market crash to overshadow their first major legislative achievement since wresting power from Trump after four years of non-stop kvetching?
holy shit i guess you have to learn the hard way, they give 0 fucks about public opinion now, and that includes republicans....what is it going to take?

>>30260234
>>30260360
I mean oil is down since Corona, but everything runs on oil?
Why didn't retards buy this dip a year ago, why are these midwits still pumping tech?

>>30260436
SOXL is falling at EXACTLY the same percent per day rate as it did EXACTLY one year ago. This by all accounts should be statistically impossible but here we are. Either this is orchestrated to price out retail investors who were heavy in tech and semiconductors, or we're really living a self-fulfilled prophecy of exactly the same crash on exactly the same time period as 2020 occurring.

>>30259483
remember that basically lasted until 2010

This is it frens.
I just did it. Lost all my gains since i created my broker account 8 months ago.
I'm exactly at break even, if i lose another $ i'll be in negative territory.

Is it the moment when you take a deep breath, try to get a macro view of the market and decide to nope the fuck out before losing everything?

Buy and hold these in the long run

USMJ
WCVC
PAOG
MINE
ZOM
SNDL

You'll thank me later.

t. Pennyfag

>bobo is getting cocky
bobo will get the rope
bobo will cry "bull trap!!"
bobo will cry.
bobo will then go dead silent.
die bobo. die.

>>30259253
THE MONAPOSTER IS LONG PAST
THE LUMPOSTER IS CAST DOWN
THE TIME OF THE HIGURASHIPOSTER HAS DAWNED

>>30260501
I avoided all energy stocks because of all the green energy bullshit and the green new deal, it's why i stayed away from airlines and cruise lines too. I'm still doing that.

>>30259544
He didn't ditch stocks. He didn't promise more bonds buying. This is a scam. This market will crash when the FED goes on a series of rate hikes and kills the market. Right now it's a joke that people seriously contemplating that this is a burst of anything. The bubble is firmly controlled by the FED, and bubbles pop after the FED drains money. No money was drained. No money is getting drained in a foreseeable future. It's just a violent over reaction to seasonal lack of buying.

>>30260444
Yes

>>30260221
nigga most people that want to time the market exactly get fucked
steadily buying dips of good companies would literally be a best strategy for most investors,

Even if it's bear market it's not like all stocks will go down right?

>Bought BB at 19

>>30260613
Just wait 5 years anon :)

>>30260562
It's a fucking meme dude.
Oil is the antimeme stock, and I'll just collect dividends and sleep in.

>>30260613
I bought BB at 13 and held it all the way up and down

>>30260572
Finally someone who isn't retarded

When is the right time to sell my SQQQ and UVXY I also got some VXX

YOU GUYS TOLD ME DEMOCRATS WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY

>>30260613
just keep on buyin’ the dips till your average price lowers and soon you’ll have your money back bro

>>30260476
I bought a good amount of C. I do regret not buying more of that. Oil i dont know much about so I just stayed out of. REITs i dont like
But as you can see, those sectors are not falling as much as tech and memes. Thus they are worse buys right now if we assume this is just a temporary bloodbath

>>30260682
When have they EVER been good for the economy in the last 50 years?

>>30260682
wait, you aren't a billionaire?

>>30260636
>>30260658
The bags....they're getting h-heavier....

>>30260682
Historically Democratic presidencies have been better for the stock market. But that doesn't mean Biden can't break the trend.

>>30260506
But according to this model, SOXL isn't even close to done falling...

>>30260682
Well historically they are slightly better
However the current batch of politicians is in permanent 'fuck you I got mine' mode and doesn't appear to have a clue what they're doing anyway as evident from the GME hearing

>>30260572
this. If the 10 year and dollar stay at this level but dont continue to spike, we will eventually go back up. Interest rate hikes are literally the only thing that can kill this market

>>30260682
>market crash with bush jr and the biggest recession since 29 happens
>market crash with trump again and another recession starts
>stock market reaches ath with Biden
LMAO DEMOCRATS BAD REPUBLICANS GOOD

why the FUCK are small caps green all of the sudden

>WTI up another 1.77%

HOSANNAH

>>30260674
Burgers believe in free markets and think the bubbles just burst by themselves. No amount of evidence will change their opinion. We live in a market religion society. The FED, on the other had is always doing the same shit. We are not even close to the burst of this bubble.

>>30260789
>>30260750
By "historically they have been better", do you mean "historically, their fiscal policies have objectively led to economic and market growth" or do you mean "the numbers were higher during their days in office, regardless of any economic policies they actually pursued"?

Why does GME make /smg/ seethe so much

I'm guessing if you went long on AMD/TSM already you might as well stick it out?

one month chart, guess where I bought

>>30260802
I didn't even know what the 10 year was 2 weeks ago, and I probably never will. I just buy what sounds cool. I bought ACIC because it reminded me of the shoe ASICS and I like them. I made 2k usd off of that buy. So far my method works. Get fucked mr harvard grad.

WHERE'S THAT STINKY INDIAN CRBP SHILL FUCK!

>>30259343
you have good taste in ass

got any more?

What chinkanese flu stocks should I buy during the red?

>>30260789
if you also break it out by the legislature's party (D,R,split congress) you get a mess, the history of the market is not so long just look at what happened in each case

>kept buying the "dip"
>out of cash
>down
bruvs

>>30260966
I'm in the same boat anon
I hope we're gonna make it

>>30259913
Its okay anon, one day you will see the light and join us. Only we can help you guys defeat Israel and you can have multiple wives, life is really quite good. No drinking alcohol (around other Muslims at least lol) but exceptions can be made for hashish for 'medical' reasons. I know Christians assume the worst about us but we love Jesus too.

>>30260966
I have over 3k saved up and this is what I'm fearing, I burn myself early by buying things up too quickly. Maybe I can tell myself I'll only spend 500 a day or something until I'm out to average things out a bit.

>>30260922
He's fucking his bitches because he sold the dip. Everybody here rages at the indian scammers but let's face it, they are making bank and probably having some party in their slum. I'm picturing some multicolored tents with christmas lights and some of that bollywood music, plus desi girls are hot. Meanwhile we are here just trying to make enough money to pay rent.

>>30260882
Yep, this is a managed economy with many levers and the Fed is one such major lever of several. The stock market is literally a matter of national security and it is now tied to every aspect of our lives including the defense industry and the dollar itself.

>>30260918

>>30260918
Love ASICS. I wear onitsuka tigers almost every day

>>30260966
uuh do you steadily use part of your salary to buy stocks? if you have a job you should never run out of money and then just keep on buying the dips to lower the average share price

>>30260906
I had quite literally never bought a top until i put $26000 of my gamestop winnings into “safe” TSM
doesnt really make a big difference but i do feel pretty stupid

Reposting:

Anyone know the formula used to get the number 1.50% for US bond yields critical point?

>>30260922
I'm never gonna buy a stock with a ticker that I pronounce in such an undignified way again.
I should have known better than trusting SIR BAP!

>>30261050
There is a ticker called TIGR too, fuck it I'm buying it. TIGR is my play tomorrow, fuck these Yale pussies that need math. This shit is too easy.

>>30261019
thats only 6 days though

Been seeing a lot about quantum computers in the news recently. Buying more Mochimo.

>>30260820
>he thinks the recession started under trump
KEK. go back to re.ddit

>>30260572
>The bubble is firmly controlled by the FED
No it isn't. Foreigners and smart money are cashing out. Bondholders don't want your shitty treasury and the FED will become the biggest bagholder ever. Even with all that money printing and bonds buying your market is crashing with no survivors.

>>30261057
I think the last year's retarded bull market gave me bad habits, I kept spending my entire paycheck after rent on stocks immediately, and they kept going up. I am at the mercy of the market this month

>>30261050
Asics is best sneakers also makes me feel like I have a bigger dick when wearing them as it's the only shoes I have to wear a size 46 in.
Fuck New Balance, fuck Adidas, fuck Nike.
I'm a ASICS boy.

how come the dxy is up if there's inflation fears?

>>30261101
I own tigr haha. We’re gonna make it bro

>>30261070
If it makes you feel better, I basically bought into every meme tech stock there is in late January after being mostly in ETFs since I wanted faster gains. So we're talking U/SQ/CRM/PINS/FVRR etc. The ONLY things saving me were MSFT/APPL pretty much.

>>30260524
We hit a correction, if you bought at good value, it will be better value still once things settle. If you hold good stuff, a correction or crash merely means you're profits are delayed

>>30261025
They'll crash it when they decide to crash it, though. Probably when shit will look good. This is some extortion attempt by the banks to extend SLR. US corporations run the US propaganda. It's the most fucked up regime ever.

>>30259969
See you at the next top boys. Still laughing my ass off at those faggots who panic sold at $29.44 yesterday, I appreciate the proceeds.

>>30260750
Pretty much. If this is meant to hold, we're going down 80% or more on SOXL before bounce.

I will buy whatever dubs tells me to

>>30260820
This is the SAME recession from 2008. The market has been trying to stay out of the economy for years. Its just been extra desperate lately.
>>30260572
The Fed has to buy bonds because there is no more foreign demand for it. It is as simple as that. It is also not a good sign. Of what? Who knows.

>>30260086
What did you buy? I'm thinking about getting some to diversify

>>30261215
SOXL

>>30261211
Yeah it might hit as low as $15, but it will bounce back to at least $35 by June.

>was 60% cash
>now only 44% cash after buying the "dip" on monday

AAAAAAA

>>30261188
good thing i bought NKLA

>>30261215
TSLA

>>30261213
>mfw I bought the dip today

>>30261129
You doomer bobos sound like actual schizophrenic retards. Until the CCP can back up their economic microdick swinging with consistent global power projection, any depressions in the west or attempts to destabilize the USD will be nothing but noise. Lines go up, chang.
>inb4 ccp shills posting military progaganda.

>>30261215
All in on CEVA

>>30261224
>This is the SAME recession from 2008.
Exactly. The world's economy never recovered from 2008. The FED just made it look good for a while and made the problem worse. Nowadays there are so many zombie companies that will instantly implode when interest rates go higher and unemployment will skyrocket.

>>30259253
I have been trying to access the stock market with OXEN coins, not possible. Anyone working on such a solution?

>>30261271
The silver lining is that because of the recovery and increased retail interest, and the mere fact that there's a massive semi-conductor shortage and the demand isn't waning off anytime soon, SOXL will bounce back just as fast as it fell, and likely hit much higher than before the fall, just as it did last March.

>>30260820
so does this mean democrats are going to admit they were the party of slavery or is that still one of those things that somehow just changed immediately with no questions asked?

>>30261248
I will unironically buy the dip and ngaf.

>>30261215
$378-380 SPY call 3/8
buy tomorrow when all seems hopeless

>>30261215
DOOO
Imagine the smell
>>30261313
GDP will go up X% because government spending will have increased by X%

>>30261129
Believe whatever stupid shit you want to believe. This is cenrally planned economy. If the FED says it's easy money, it's easy money. People haven't fought the FED for a while. The FED will wipe them out like the times people decided to fight the FED. Never fight the FED. If you don't like the game, don't play it.

>>30261090
bumping

>>30261330
If you have cash on hand, things like SOXL and TQQQ are perfect to buy at the bottom.

>>30261195
Yes they will, but not yet. It's all political. The economy is currently jittery which makes it harder to prop up but they will prop it up until they have set the stage for the aftermath. When the stage if set, they'll kill the market and the solutions will be trotted out, solutions designed to consolidate power. It's a story as old as time.

>>30261215
L*M POSTING IS NOT WELCOME HERE, AND YOU DID IT AFTER MIDNIGHT YOU FUCKER, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING

BAD LUCK WOMAN MUST GO.

You do realize it's all good in the end?
only those who FOMO lose in the end

>>30261215
Split evenly between NGA and NTTHF

>>30261129
>implying China, Russia, Israel and Saudi Arabia want USA to crash

>>30261283
Screencap this and look at it again in 10 years when your Happy Meals cost 15.000$. Your currency and economy is imploding. Stop being so arrogant, foreigners don't want to invest in a failing country, we don't give a fuck about the FED printing money. They can't stop the crash.

>>30259394
>wallah
Want to know how I can tell you're american?

>>30261252
How many % of dip before you buy?
Double it

>>30261129
youre right that the fed doesnt have as much control as people think, but wrong on everything else. the world literally runs on american debt and the petrodollar, and you will buy it from us because we have the biggest military. buy it up chang, you stupid zipperhead

>futures
i'm going to watch my portfolio implode itself tomorrow aren't I?
>and I will just watch the train wreck in awe

>>30261388
Except the market's doing exactly the opposite and betting that US economy will be the first and fastest to recover and the strongest to recover. If you knew anything about the market and economics, you would see this.

>>30261224
>The Fed has to buy bonds because there is no more foreign demand for it. It is as simple as that. It is also not a good sign. Of what? Who knows.

No, they don't. Banks throwing tantrums doesn't make the FED do shit. Maybe they will, maybe they won't it's irrelevant. If the important players are demanding twist, the FED will deliver. If shysters with access to propaganda want it, they will get fucked and get squeezed in their piled up 10 year shorts.

>>30261366
it will be a year before we are back to the gains of last month lol

Should I just sell all my shit tomorrow? My losses are tiny, maybe $10 right now...though who knows where it'll end up.

>>30261375
Of course. China and India is growing faster than your country. You're becoming irrelevant like Europe and China is trying to take your place.

>>30261365
Here, have another my retarded friend

>>30261215
SQQQ and UVXY on market open

>>30261323
I am a genius!

>>30261388
>foreigners don't want to invest in a failing country
>implying that every country on Earth isn't shitting the bed
>implying that investors don't look for the best choice available
>implying the US market is not still the best choice available
even China realized their numbers were shit several days ago when their banking leader came out saying valuations were bad
every country on Earth has been fucked in their asshole by covid - the majority of Europe / Asia still hadn't even recovered from the '08 crisis before covid hit
The US is still the best choice available to investors - ergo, the money will keep flowing.
There. Is. No. Alternative.

>>30261388
>foreigners dont want to invest in...
why the fuck would i give one single shit about what foreigners do? we are richer than all of you. keep building bridges in chile and roads in africa to build up your networks of economic allies you idiot, america will continue to hold the world reserve currency and your shitty rice paper money will remain irrelevant

>>30261415
Why? Even Spanish stock market rallied exactly like USA's lol. It's an obvious asset bubble

>>30261408
I've been watching a lot of people from the past when they thought things were going to go to shit and it's always the same.
>everything going to end
>we will be poor
>omg how did they do that?
>they cheated you can't do that!
>ok i guess they can
>well fuck.

It's the same as the corona stuff, the audacity of it. They can and will do whatever they want to keep this ball rolling. This dip is just to increase their profits, and every dip afterward is too.

>>30261452
YOU WILL REGRET THIS TOMORROW, YOU ARE PLAYING A DANGEROUS GAME

>Futures

>>30261473
Just remember that 3x leveraged ETFs are not really meant to be held long, you sort of phase in and out of them based on liquidity needs, so take some profits when it hits another high, then have cash on hand. Doesn't mean to have to sell all of it, but still.

>>30261363
Agreed. The FED doesn't go on rate raising rampages when shit looks bad. If anything, this episode gave them easy money cover for a while. When rates start to go up, and things settle down, then they will pull the plug. But this tantrum is ridiculous. It's fake as fuck too. It's upsetting how retarded shit became.

>>30261392
want to know how i can tell youre a fucking newfag? nice attempt to fit in, go the fuck back faggot

>>30261415
>US economy will be the first and fastest to recover and the strongest to recover
this 100%
it's like you bobos learned absolutely nothing from the '08 crisis

>>30261233
WTI and REI gained big today so I'm not touching them for awhile but I plan to.
I'm 50/50 E**on and S**core I'd rather not name the tickers to trigger bots scraping.

>>30261562
It may even recover in unexpected places like domestic production and manufacturing. Whether Trump or Biden, Coronavirus taught a worthy lesson to America about China relations as well as the value of having self-sufficient national manufacturing and production industries.

Reminder that Oil kills evil black bird

>>30261551
Yep. I even bought spy calls today when it dipped to 272. Already up 50% and they don't expire for another week. Some people will never learn.

>>30260086
hey why did oil moon during a dump anyway

>>30261620
>Coronavirus taught a worthy lesson to America about China relations as well as the value of having self-sufficient national manufacturing and production industries.
you really think the usa is going to do that though? the masks were a huge cash grab, people made billions off of it.

If theres any hedgefund that needs to die its fucking Intercoastal Capital. Fuck these short selling scumbags.

remember when some moron was shilling mutant fish? where did he go?

>>30260658
Bought BB at $10 and rode all the way up to $27 and back down. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

fuck

>>30261707
>>30260658

do u still think BB's bull thesis is legit?

>>30261663
To an extent. For example semiconductor domestic production will flourish again. The rate of decline in oil rig use has slowed and production at the largest fields in the booming US shale sector has actually increased. Biden's administration has taken up a renewed "Buy American" approach with regards to much else as well, so there's value to domestic manufacturing.

>>30261631
>272
372

>>30261686
Cathie owns 30% of float on the mutant fish stock

>>30261707
So is BB actually a decent longterm play? They don't seem like a meme stock but their gameplan looks like it'll take a while to payoff at all.

>>30261215
$ANVS and $CRBP :^)

>>30260682
Repubs usually fix the mess of the dems so repubs have slow growth dems benefit from the fixes caused by republicans

>>30261760
They are a decent longterm because of QNX and auto industry as well as the fact that QNX is by far the most secure platform for enterprise as well if they can tap into that. However, they're really only worth it if you can buy $10 or so, and just put it on the side and forget until it moons again.

>>30261215
PLTR

How much longer must I bleed. I have legit put every dime I own into stocks including all money left over from weekly paychecks. It just keeps dipping every single day guys

>>30261686
You will all laugh at me but AQB is unironically a good buy at its current price. Markets making public statements about not buying a competitively priced product is literally bullish (because they're full of shit).

>>30261740
Hahaha! Keep telling yourself shits going to get manufactured in the US. If it’s cheaper to make it in China they’ll make it in China. Hahaha! You’re so naïve.

>FUTURES

>>30261814
>AQB is unironically a good buy at its current price
this.
they are going to report great earnings growth since they are actually harvesting now

>>30261215
Pltr

>>30261821
>If it’s cheaper to make it in China they’ll make it in China
it's not anymore.. you could have at least argued "make it in Vietnam" or "make it in Indonesia"
China is not the place to get shit manufactured any longer, even China is too expensive

>>30261821
100% I'd invest in an American company over a Chinese one.
Even Canadian or Mexican.
Absolutely NOBODY trusts the Chinese.

>>30261821
>puts an umlaut over the fucking i in naive
ok, chang.

>>30261215
Tigr

>>30261842
I want to say it'll be ok but...

>>30261898
>requesting the picture of the guy who worked in metal industry discouraging learning Chinese / working in China

>>30261842
This. You bulls have been riding high for too long. The whole foundation of the market it shifting and you think it’s sustainable? Bond yields and raised interest rates are the result of clown market. This is bad. The thing that’s been propping up the economy since 2008 is not working anymore.

>>30261842
CRAWWWLING IN MY SKINNNNNN
THESE WOUNDSSSSS THEY WILLLL NOT HEALLLLLL

>>30261734

Did anything fundamentally change for BB's public face, management, or the companies financial position? Nope. Everything is still intact, the price action is just noise. Meme stocks & a march crash are the cause of this right now, it will fuck off. Did I delete my apps? Yep, I got sick of stressing over my Meme/tech heavy portfolio DUMPPPP.

>>30261760
I don't see any reason BB won't hit $30+ by mid 2022. But that's literally my retard brain trying to read the future, and a lot can happen.

tldr; nothing changed, price action is due to dump and meme affiliation. Have conviction.

>>30261740
you want to know something funny? I actually believe that his "buy american" bullshit just means semi conductor production out of Taiwan. Now think, why would he pull that out of Taiwan? Is it possibly because he doesn't plan on defending Taiwan in the case of a Chinese takeover or attempt at takeover, or riots caused by the CCP and he knows that for his green new deal to work, they can't have that in Taiwan?

>>30261898
They backdoor everything through China. did you know all the products producted in SEA have to get cleared through china before moving to the west? lol.

>>30261898
This. Sentiments of consumers is also important. Not everybody is frugal and ONLY looks at price. Surveys show the average person is willing to pay up to 30% more for the same product if they perceive it to have been better manufactured (read: not made in China). Made in Japan, Made in Germany, Made in USA, Made in Canada, all had the largest ratings among consumers.
>>30261821

>>30261924
What 'thing' would that be, and why is it not working?

>>30261939
Is that a Chinese black man?
What am I looking at here?

>>30261323
I have some bad news for you man. After the peak at $711 pre-split, SOXL has been following a downward trend as tech stocks are ass raped. Pre-split, the 5 year projection out to year 2026 was a share price of $1,112. After the split and through out this week, the 5 year projection has unfortunately been downgraded to $1,000 - $1,047 by year 2026. I'm literally shaking in my boots I'm so scared of this week, the horror.

The entire western world functions by use of semiconductors and oil (and derivatives). There is no escaping this fact and I don't care what any kike financial advisor 'doom and glooms' about this week or even the next week. We are in a global shortage in EVERY INDUSTRY that is reliant on semiconductors. I don't give a rats ass about anyone posting pink wojacks or otherwise because they are just noise. The owner of TSM laughed and told everyone to calm their tits and he dgaf about any shortage. The five year projection is all over the internet for those who want to look up that information. Also, anyone who says a 3x leveraged ETF is a short term hold IS A FUCKING MORON and their opinion will be trashed. SOXL post-split, in regard to the global semi environment is and will always be a long term hold. Everyone worth their clout in financials doing TA for a living knows SOXL is long term.

Lastly, and as an aside, if those of you out there are too worried about losing money, let me tell you- Microsoft, Google and Amazon are on sale this week. Microsoft is projected to go to $380 by March 2023 and Amazon to $5000. Take the SOXL money you have from selling low, buy those blue chips then forget about the money and never touch those.

>>30261888
>>30261898
>>30261903
I work in manufacturing and China is STILL hard to compete with. Look at anything you buy now and tell me where it’s made. If it’s not perishable it’s made in China. I wish it was different but it ain’t.

>>30261804
SpaceX rockets use QNX too, someone needs to tell those musk fanboy faggots that shit so they can pile into BB and I can get out with a clean +300%

>>30262044
QNX is really underrated. It is orders of magnitude less buggy and more secure than even its closest competitor.

>>30262004
unironically things that I buy now say "made in Vietnam" "made in Thailand" "made in Indonesia" more than they say "made in China"
Nobody likes working with the Chinese - they believe in scamming / ripping off any customer if it means a little extra money that week. Even if you have inspectors / do everything very carefully, the Chinese will still fuck you in the ass. It's part of their culture, where it's completely acceptable to do this

>>30262087
(this is what happens when everybody with any moral conscience gets killed for the last thousand years)

bobo is machine and isn't going to stop until we're all dead
not financially ruined that's just a step. dead.

>>30261987
Thats future

>>30262004
Yeah $20 Keurig knockoffs.
If I wanted actual companies with a future I'd buy AMERICAN, and I'm not even a patriot just an American that still trusts white people over yellows.

>>30262133
I'm not even American, but I'd take AMERICAN manufacturing, and maybe, just maybe German, Canadian and Japanese manufacturing over anything made in China or SEA.

I would be worried if I didn't have at least 10% of my portfolio in oil
But that not being the case I feel just fine

>>30262087
True

>>30261973
They SAY they like western products, but when people go buy shit at the store they’ll buy the cheap piece of shit and hope it works rather than the expensive thing they know works. Why are Amazon, Walmart and the rest making so much money if not for people wanting cheap Chinese goods? I will never argue against domestic production but Chinese products are everywhere. I want us to be competitive too, but we’re gonna have to make better products cheaper if we want to compete . They don’t even have a national minimum wage in China. Most people make around a dollar an hour. Hahaha! We can’t compete with that shit!

>>30262004
>my dad works at nintendo
Kill yourself.

>>30262087
how do you think China got where it is? The SEA/Chinese diaspora is another subject and most of them actively work against the CCP so I won't even go there, but look, the old regime is back in the USA and they want to do business with China. It's going to happen, regardless of the quality. All that SEA produced stuff you see is going to go away. this happened in the 90s when Bush and Clinton basically told the Asian tigers to fuck off and Wal Mart sourced everything from China. This is what the american people chose. Huawei will probably be back in the USA in no time.

>>30262199
Sometimes, and I hate to say it as I don't personally like it, you have to regulate another market out of your country. Tariff the living fuck out of Chinese goods so people actually start changing their habits of buying cheap Chinese shit and companies are encouraged and incentivized by force to produce stuff outside of China and preferably domestically by providing subsidies at home.

>>30260094
and what will they do? you can bring the water to the horse but ....

>>30260613
>>30260658
>>30261707
>>30261734
>>30261760


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>>30260314
>>30260361

You might not have to hold those bags much longer

>>30261991
>soxl is a god tier long term hold
>sell it now and buy overweight tech bluechips
wait, what?

>>30262244
when you try to impose tariffs you get COVID though lol

>>30262312
He was saying that for pussies who are too faint of heart to handle a 3x leveraged ETF and its big dick 30-80% swings.

>>30261215
PSLV

>>30262244
Based reluctant former ancap anon.

>>30262337
It's just a coincidence bro. It's not like China figured out they can't nuke anywhere else so they will just biological warfare it. Look away!

SOXL IS A SCAM!
Buy physical semiconductors instead!
TSM will default in march!
Junior semi manufacturer pennystocks will increase 100x!

bros when do I buy?

Is it bear investing if I buy companies only when their price goes down?

>>30262417
It is smart investing if you actually hold and wait for the bounce.

>hold a ton of btc stocks
>get constantly assraped
it's all so tiresome

>7 hours for BTC to rise $700
>Falls $700 in 15 minutes

I hate this feel. Its like pushing a boulder slowly to the top of the hill, and just as you're gaining a bit of momentum, you lose your foots and fall back to the bottom.

BTC CRASHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>30262440
Alright. That sounds good to me.

>>30262413
When there's blood in the streets. You might have to get out there and do some bludgeoning yourself, though.

>>30262351
ah i see. i would personally be buying TSM alongside soxl since soxl has way too little TSM exposure for it being an industry etf

>>30262337
Why are people mad about the dancing?

>>30262362
>>30262244
It's just that free market only works properly if all parts of it are truly free. US market has never been a proper free market, and China is definitely not a free market, they just learned from the mistakes of Soviet Union and America how to do centralized capitalism properly.

>>30262467
when will the bears start showing up on the news media channels?

>>30262472
It is true. That's also what I have done. SOXL has too much Intel and Qualcomm exposure for my liking. I will still hold mine with average $25 price.

it's funny how some anons here are still pounding the semiconductor trade and thinking it's the holy grail, protip: sell when the big pump comes - that's the exit pump for the big guys

>>30262243
>how do you think China got where it is?
in this context, China got like this because they literally purged anyone with any sort of moral conscience. Anyone stood up to Mao - bam, you're dead, all your relatives are dead. The blood line is wiped out. If you do this on a mass scale, for the last 1,000+ years, you create a society of untrustworthy shysters
>Huawei will probably be back in the USA in no time.
the whole world is now uniting against China due to Uighur treatment
Australia, Canada, UK, NZ, all are currently rallying against China together
the entire world blames China for coronavirus - this hate is not going away anytime soon

>>30262489
Damn, you JUST finished reading Hoppe. Based.

>>30262488
who is mad?

>In the cult of Mao, everyone was expected to perform the loyalty dance—from miners to office workers to toddlers to old ladies whose feet had been bound. "The movements were always toward the sky—that way you could show how respectful you were to Mao," Li says. "Everyone knew how to dance it."

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/dancing-for-mao-123906664/

should i take my meds now?

>>30261215
EGYF

>>30262530
whats your bear thesis for the entire semiconductor industry?

>>30261215
GME

>>30262568
Lel you bought the penny shills bags?
Are you trying to pass them off?
Idiot.

>>30261215
rolling for MOMO

fresh
>>30262627
>>30262627
>>30262627
>>30262627

>>30261215
>didn't get a single dub
Anon, the world's telling you to hold your money for now and wait.

>>30262488
because they think that nurses working in a hospital in the middle of bumfuck nowhere with zero covid cases, where all elective procedures were cancelled creating empty hospitals, is evidence for the entire thing being a hoax
(let me be clear, I am not saying that the lockdowns weren't a 'hoax' to try and kill money velocity to allow mass money printing without driving up inflation)

>>30262243
>Huawei will probably be back in the USA in no time
kek, wait till msm starts to investigate xiaomi iot

>>30262645
You could have simply hung yourself quietly instead of typing out this absolute fucking garbage, but you decided today wasn't the day. You made the wrong decision, faggot.

>>30262696
>retard detected

>>30262567
Big IQ post but I'm too drunk to unpack this.
Our country is controlled by Trotskyites but the useful idiots are Maoist BLM/Antifa.
We are fuk'd, the real investments are canned food and ammo.

>>30262605
>whats your bear thesis for the entire semiconductor industry?
there is non and that's the problem, the bull case has been so obvious for a long time - everyone is already long that stuff, mostly dumb money will be buying when the dust settles. The upside is limited because most of the buyers are already in.

>>30262724
Why? Because I think your post was unfunny and lacked insight? Your corpse would be more valuable to the world than your posts are.

Free tip for my frens here. Buy LYB, soon it will be over 200$.

>>30259343
THAT FEELING WHEN YOU WILL NEVER HAVE THE CHANCE TO TAKE PART IN HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS AND HAVE A HOT, ATHLETIC SWIMMER GF

WHY EVEN LIVE BROS

>>30262809
>your post was unfunny
Oh yeah, I was totally trying to be funny man. I should go down to the Improv and do a tight 5 minutes on what I said.
People saw the videos of nurses dancing in empty hospitals and went
>OMG THE VIRUS IS FAKE!!
>THE VIRUS ISN'T REAL!!
>LOOK THE NURSES ARE DANCING!!
which is absolutely retarded
nearly every single surgery was cancelled - patients sent home. of course the hospital will be empty
nurses were laid off in mass due to this exact problem
it took time for the virus to get everywhere in the country. if you were a nurse working in a hospital in fucking north dakota you didn't get fucked until the summer
that created months, and months where the hospitals were under capacity
>omg the virus is fake!!
you're a retard if you think this

>>30261215
TNXP

>>30260892
Pedo trash

>>30261271
It still can rebound once the moneys calm down.

>>30261215
GME

>>30261388
Shut up disgusting shitskin. You will keep investing in America like the pig you are.

>>30261215
tsla

I understand the dump of meme Tech, but why semi?

ASML and TSMC actually offer products that are currently needed and further growth seems natural as the need for semis wont go anywhere...

>>30261215
AQB

>>30262768

Interdesting but I'm still in the healthy green on my semi stocks.

I don't see the industry go down, everyone buys new cars, smartphones etc. even dead broke people buy new phones regularly why would that Change?

Semi will go back up long term. I mean it isnt even realy down if you hold for more then a year.

>>30260595
The problem is you won't know whether a company is good until after the fact. Losing money catching a falling knife is worse than staying in cash until a recovery is confirmed. It's the same as FOMO, except that you're targeting red candles.

>>30260607
Most of them go down. Chances are your account would be bleeding money even if you're diversified.

>>30263850
>>30263928
Don’t come in here and start spewing doubt you dumb nigger this market is fine in 2 months we’ll all be green and happy