/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>30143723
Now that they have full time jobs, they can pay that money back.

>>30143723
Imagine not supporting social safety nets because you let individualism rot your brain

UBI is coming. They're experimenting with different options and doing test runs. UBI is the future.

>>30143723
if you give free $ to someone over 110 iq they’ll immediately get it out of dollars and into an actual asset/equity (house, stocks, crypto, guns, ammo, art).

giving $500 to every retard especially any sub-100 iq normies will mean they’ll probably just buy designer shoes or lift their truck or some other dumb shit and be back @ square 1.

>really all you do is fuck the middle class employed back bone of western countries with UBI shit

>automation? When we actually see it then we’ll talk. Even the automations I use at work need teams constantly changing parameters and cleaning data so it doesn’t shid itself and break

>>30143723
all UBI experiments ultimately fail. money going into the program is always less than the money coming out. it's unsustainable

>>30143723
Why should my tax money go to these commies welfare when I could just pay a little more for police and prisons to make their lives as hellish as mine? I was bullied in school so everyone else should suffer as much as possible.

>>30144285
Those people spending money put it back circulating in the economy and pay those people to sell them things.

>>30144419
source

>>30144157
this.

>>30144220
good

>>30144285
so what, even if they waste it, they are stimulating the economy. and if you're smart, you can sell them good and services and take that money from them.

>>30144419
no they don't

>>30144434
shut up faggot

>>30144419
UBI should be just social security without the bureaucracy.

>>30144484
>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47169549

and this is finland. if this happened in america i would imagine more people abusing the system.

>>30144157
>>30144220
>>30144571
Who knew biz was full of poor people

You know how to argue against universal basic income? Look at all the luxuries we have in 2021

>running water, clean, free at many places
>almost every book is online free, including textbooks
>there's an endless list of tutorials online for any subject from art to music. You can theoretically self-teach many things to expert level. All free.
>a variety of healthy high quality food is available at almost any supermarket.

And you know what people do with their free time? Drugs, video games, and porn. The thing about UBI is that if you're already inclined to discipline and self-mastery, you'll now have more time to do it. But 99% of people will just waste their money like they already do.

>>30144157
As a germ I can tell you that Id rather not give 40% of anything that I make off for "someone" elses safety

>everybody just gets handed checks every month and the gov keeps printing infinite money

Imagine the inflation spiral. Peak Jewry.

>>30143723
>$500 per month
are people really this poor and worthless that 6k a year is life changing?

>>30144157
some social safety nets are necessary, but at a certain point you're giving free money to niggers and spics.

>>30143985
Fuck off cunt. Societal investment.

>>30144627
I mean this says nothing about your point regarding sustainability

UBI may be the way. Retarded whitoids can't let anyone benefit from government programs (even themselves) if even one Shaniqua gets benefits they don't need. UBI acknowledges we all don't deserve shit compared to each other, but we need a financial safety net to reduce crime/societal strife.

>>30143723
Niggers. no matter what the problem will always be niggers

The best argument against UBI is imagine your wagie pay being used to fund the NEET lifestyle of everyone on this board, would you be ok with that?

>>30144157
I do support social safety nets. Just not for foreign invaders or black people who wont work

>>30144571
You know stalin and mao also gave there citizens welfare and look how it turned out for them.

>>30144846
So basically what is happening now except we don’t get checks lmao

>>30145045
>muh gommunism D:

>>30144988
shutup jose, we arent gonna keep paying for you to use the ER as your general practitioner.

Don't blacks get 3x that no strings attached too?

>>30144758
who knew biz was full of retards. me

>>30144781
didn't read

>>30144806
you are indeed a germ

>>30144846
he thinks the gov isn't printing infinite money already

>>30144853
once you start paying your own bills you will realize you're a moron

>>30144912
we're already giving free money to niggers and spics, god forbid white people get some free money too

>>30145011
yup

>>30145011
Nah, the best argument is just to point out how people are so shitty already with their free time and money.

We have access to such high quality food and free videos on how to prepare it but we have an obesity problem in the states. Most people are also in fucking debt for stupid shit

Lol Stockton is the only city that gets worse every year. I used to hang around there all the time and worked there installing satellite. Literally filled with gangs, tweakers, and poverty. Unironically the only nice places were white neighborhoods. The biggest shithole other than Oakland in Northern Cali.

>>30144988
This image is the gayest "no u" shit I've ever seen.
>whitoid
Suck start a shotgun.

>>30144285
>automation? When we actually see it then we’ll talk. Even the automations I use at work need teams constantly changing parameters and cleaning data so it doesn’t shid itself and break
What happens is the only people that are employable are the above average IQ people who can be trained to work with those automation tools and manage them like you said. Lower IQ people just don't have a chance in the modern world.

>>30145207
>didn't read
yeah I know. That just proves the point of my post. Go buy more funko pops and watch more porn.

UBI is fucking dumb, why the fuck would you get money for doing nothing. It's unironically regressive compared to unemployment checks.

>>30144971
>“This was a big carrot, and we can see it didn’t fully work,” Kari Hamalainen, chief researcher at the VATT Institute for Economic Research, said on a webcast. Implementing a universal basic income for all citizens “would be expensive. If we had a universal basic income, we’d have to incorporate taxation” and based on these results “it would be unsustainable.”

>>30143723
where's the randomly selected control group?

>>30143723
>single mother
nigg...

>>30145300
UBI is cheaper than all the convoluted welfare programs we have already. Morons like that are probably assuming we wouldn't get rid of all the other forms of welfare.

>>30144285
Lots of smart, educated people don't understand money or wealth.

>>30143723
The problem I see is if its done on a country wide scale. Wouldn't they just start charging more money for rent food etc so it cancels out what you make?

>>30145400
i believe that if you even slashed all the governments financials regarding welfare and other things and rolled it into UBI, it would still not cover the shortfall. UBI is payment to every citizen. not every citizen is on welfare programs.

>>30145053

Here's what would happen

>we do $1k per month
>prices of everything immediately pops up
>now the poorer people are still unable to afford things
>ok let's give them additional checks

TA DA

Lmao Stockton is the largest city to ever declare bankruptcy i believe.

I live in central cali, Stockton is a shithole. #7 on the grand theft auto list. Pretty high up there on meth too.

>>30143723
>45 year old single mother
no amount of gibs will save these """people""" from themselves

>>30144781
this and the lockdowns redpilled me.

we SHOULD HAVE seen an artistic renaissance, new books, games, ideas being spread. Which did happen in fringe political circles but 99% of the population just watched netflix and gained 10-20 lbs

>>30144434
This is why UBI should come out of Big Data (locally taxed) and Automation (federal tax). No new money is printed and the system is funded by things that exploit the citizens without risk.

>>30144988
>entire paragraph in the meme in case the viewer forms the wrong opinions

>>30145585

What we really need is

EUGENICS.

>>30144220
German here, our Hartz4 is like UBI with some bothering from the state. All it did was the creation of a new lowest cast and the attraction of shitskins/slavs.

>>30145528
So why don’t grocery stores do this in neighborhoods with higher rates of ebt/food stamp users?

>>30144157
This but unironically

>>30144157
Fuck other people. Artificially sustaining retards will ruin this planet. Let Darwinism take its course. If you still need gubment help by the time you're 21, you should be shot. Welfare for adults should be capped to 5 years. If you havent sorted yourself out yet, electric chair. Simple as.

>>30145528
>Here's what would happen
it's crazy that you and every other armchair internet economist are SO SURE that the PRICES OF EVERTYING IMMEDIATELY POP UP.

if you owned a business, you'd know that's not the way the world works.

>>30145161
Even if the bullets to kill you poorfag scum costed more than the welfare I'd go for the bullets every time. I was born into a wealthy family if you weren't that's not my problem and I'll never let you lowborn beggars take my hard earned inheritance from me.

>>30145724
don't ask him to elaborate or explain. it hurts his head. all he knows is very simple talking points he heard on /pol/

>>30144758
It’s the post halving tourist season anon.

what are they supposed to do with 500$ a month, thats pajeet level poor even in developing countries

>>30145615
If you want to envision a world with UBI, look at the fatties in the movie WALL-E

>>30145476
actually true, financially educated 100iqers do make it more often than financially uneducated 110iq+ endebted collegiate fools.

>I see this all the time immigrant comes from east europe, asia, middle east
>no education
>can speak some english with thick accent
>has massive balls and opens a small business/shop
>does well and pushes kids to college where it’s 60/40 they become indebted idiots that work right in the family business, become addicts, or just broadly burn out


>Interesting related phenomena: Liberal middle easterners come to the west as hardcore civic nationalists and their kids becoming radical religious zealots (THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN due to the education system, culture and western self flagellating)

>>30144467
It just creates an cycle off price rises, UBI rises, basic income rises and more inflation. Theire are also all the new funny hidden taxes that finance all this madness.
Work or starve, its that easy. The world cant support more than 2billion people anyway on a substainable level.

>>30145724

If that wasn't there those grocery stores couldn't exist. And food is highly subsidized in the US to keep prices down.

>>30145793

The other alternative is everybody takes that money and stashes/invests it away. It's that or they spend it, and inflation kicks in immediately. How the fuck do you not understand that.

>>30145918
Stockton is literally a third world city

>>30145854

Nah I'm right here fuckwit >>30145948

You can't downvote me away fag

Fuck UBI I didn't struggle for decades so freeloading lazybags can live for free.

>>30145841
>faggot who rails against muh gommunism is a neet who lives at home waiting for daddy's inheritance
why am i not surprised

>>30145793
>>30145724

The endless leftist cycle of public policy retardation:
>1. The bad thing won't happen
> It happens
>2. Ok it happened but it's actually a good thing
>Turns out it's really bad
>3. Ok, it happened, it's really bad, but white people deserve it

>>30145948
>If that wasn't there those grocery stores couldn't exist.
Ah so welfare then creates job, no?
>And food is highly subsidized in the US to keep prices down.
So why then would prices go up with ubi?

>>30145793
In particular, rent and house prices would explode. By the way, housing costs is the main expenditure for lower and middle class. Thus, they would be immediately back at square one.

>>30145400
Well they wouldn't remove all the welfare. That would take an absurd amount of legislation. Impossible to do really.

And the UBI on it's own would be about $3 trillion.

>>30145769
your argument is pseudo scientific.

humans didn't get where they are by being individualistic

being anti-social is considered a symptom of mental illness for a reason. the more social humans that provided safety to the group and worked together triumphed.

individualism is one of the characteristics of a dystopia.

>>30143723
Uniswap gave 25,000 people $10k, how did that work out? Seems like a larger study could be done.

Never understood people against UBI.

It gives a “free to play” option to lazy people which is fair. No one asked to be born in this world they should not be forced to work as slaves by narcissistic sociopaths who never have enough and need to employ cheap labor to satisfy their needs.

On top of that it’s not like they are giving out lambos. It’s literally basic income...no luxuries. If you are against UBI it is a dead giveaway that you are a narcissistic sociopath.

If you want luxuries you will work for them and provide appropriate value to society. UBI is not full blown communism or socialism. I swear you people have Stockholm syndrome...UBI creates a more free society.

You think every middle manager needs a fucking BMW? Get a grip.

>>30146074
I am genetically better and smarter than you peasant faggot thats why I inherited money and didnt blow it on drugs and satan like you. No amount of bullying me will change my mind

>>30145337
oh we got a scientist on our hands guys

>>30146204

Why are you making this all about food, idiot? There are other much larger monthly costs

>>30145918
500$ is like 3x the minimum wage in Brasil

>>30146063
Exactly this, our money is better spent on prisons and law enforcement to keep poorscum miserable, get fucked freeloaders

>>30146230
Individualism is the result of diversity and multiculturalism.

>>30146401
Just so we’re clear though, food stamps creates jobs and food prices wouldn't necessarily increase with ubi?

>>30146448
>500$ is like 3x the minimum wage in Brasil
And so when the third world hears that theres free money in america whats gonna happen?

>>30146230
We live in an time that spawns many indidulists and encourages individualism on a great scale, lefties utopia.

>>30146644

You act like I'm not aware of the rhetorical tactic to cherrypick one minor component of a broader issue and call that the chief battleground because it's more easily defensible

Food stamps artificially create demand where it doesn't exist, but it's just a baseline. It doesn't cause inflation because they don't hand out $1000 in stamps, they hand out just enough to eat and get by.

You're asking for a $1k check to everybody on top of their immediate needs. It's going to get pumped into all markets as additional revenue and those companies are going to raise prices in turn flush with cash. This is precisely how education got so out of whack, the government guaranteed the funding to basically every prospective student with two brain cells, and universities immediately started ramping their costs up because it was a blank check.

I'm not for giving shitskins free money, but I'm also not naive enough to believe economic individualism is sustainable without heavy gubmint intervention. Where do I fall on your gay spectrum?

>>30146299
Unironically this. People are too narrowminded and materialistic, precisely because they are invested in this ego circus that's perpetuated by the same narcissistic sociopaths that most are employed by, so it goes in a circle.

>>30146997
>Food stamps artificially create demand where it doesn't exist, but it's just a baseline. It doesn't cause inflation because they don't hand out $1000 in stamps, they hand out just enough to eat and get by.
Don’t think you’ve ever seen the cart of a food stamp shopper
>You're asking for a $1k check to everybody on top of their immediate needs. It's going to get pumped into all markets as additional revenue and those companies are going to raise prices in turn flush with cash. This is precisely how education got so out of whack, the government guaranteed the funding to basically every prospective student with two brain cells, and universities immediately started ramping their costs up because it was a blank check.
That’s a false equivalency and using your words a rhetorical tactic to cherry-pick one minor component of a broader issue and call that the chief battleground because it’s more easily defensible kek

>>30144220
they?

>>30147309

No, I'm describing the entire effect fuckhead. $1k, pumped into all markets because it carries no stipulations. It isn't $200 per month to the most needy only for food. False equivalency indeed.

>>30143723
I don't really care anymore.

>>30144220
>UBI is coming.
It really isn't. It's based on the assumption that because companies are able to automate more processes, they should be willing to offset those savings by being taxed up the ass for it. It's idiotic because they'll just fuck off to somewhere that's less socialist.

>>30146230
>humans didn't get where they are by being individualistic
They also didn't get to where they are by giving their enemies all of their berry's

>>30147309
You're dumb as a brick. Unironically you have low intelligence and just want free shit.

>>30147415
>>30147309

and FWIW, who's to say food stamps haven't bumped up the price of food in the US? If it was removed immediately, and the recipients no longer had that money, the price of food would in fact dip slightly. Your entire premise is more than likely incorrect on its face.

>>30145733
>faces of the master race

>>30146230

the welfare state is a product of the past 100 years. There's 1,000's of years of human history prior to that where the concept of resource redistribution like this would be absurd. Governments only ever existed to protect the country and maintain core services like police forces to enforce laws.

UBI would work in a 100% white christian America.
The truth is that pretty much any regime from super nazi to lolbertarian would work, the reason is that the base material (aka genetics+culture) is a vastly more important factor for prosperity than whatever flavor of the century political organization you choose.

Look at France, they went through a decentralized monarchy (but with an absolute ruler), a republic, cesarism, constitutional monarchy, then a republic again then an empire then again a republic over 100 years
The country remained more or less at the same level of prosperity because the culture and the people remained the same.

>>30147650
Why implement UBI when you can implement 100% employment?

>>30147525
Ah the temporarily embarrassed millionaire

>>30146580
>>30146726
Yes

>>30147504
True, but this is not what UBI is.

>>30147616

Yeah? Thousands of years ago, calling a president (king) a bad name would get you killed too. Thousands of years ago, the world didn't have 8 billion people living on this planet. Times changed, we have to adapt.

>>30147650
>France
lol they're an Islamic caliphate at this point.

>>30147528
You act like I'm not aware of the rhetorical tactic to cherrypick one minor component of a broader issue and call that the chief battleground because it's more easily defensible

>>30143985
With taxes and no section 8? Sure

Friendly reminder that UBI is designed to make you even more dependant on the state and therefore have greater control over your life. It'll be "universal" for a while, but eventually people who have a low social credit score will have their pay garnished by the state, thus having massive control over what you can do or say.

>>30146299
UBI might be a reasonable step forward under the precondition that it replaces the existing 856 bureaucracies that dole out gibs. Rather than a bunch of different agencies that have a byzantine set of rules designed to prioritize nogs and crazy complex rules on top of a mammoth bureaucracy for each agency, everybody just gets XXX per month to live off of. That would eliminate a lot of bureaucracy, bring complete fairness to the system, and eliminate lots of crazy rules.
The problem is that UBI is just going to be bolted on top of the existing bureaucracy.
Now you're going to have 857 bureaucracies to deal with, nogs still get priority treatment, and there will be even more restrictive rules on whites to get gibs from the other 856 agencies now that they get their UBI.

It should be completely legal to just shoot subhumans who look or act poor, like panhandlers or commies, they quiet literally aren't even human. The police simply aren't shooting enough.

>>30147862
You're braindead. Why would I want to massively jack up demand for housing? That doesn't help me in any way. The only thing UBI would give lower and middle class people is some extra cast to buy useless shit like video games.

>>30148282
Dangerously based

>>30145936

Has to do with our culture. When I went to uni almost nobody thought about making money, it was all about doing what you liked. I'm only now discovering that what I like is getting rich.

>>30144157
unbelievably based

>>30148391
>The only thing UBI would give lower and middle class people is some extra cast to buy useless shit like video games.

you mean extra cash to buy XRP right

>>30144285
A gentleman and a scholar.

>>30148001

Do you think being annoying is how you win an argument? lmao

>>30143723
I'dbe buying a quarter ounce of gold every month

>>30144157
this
but also this
>>30147504
You need nationalism for this to work but ill tell you it doesnt fucking matter let this shit hole of a country burn.

>>30148526
>useless shit
>xrp

it checks out

>>30143723
>How do I go long on goth fat latina single moms living off of the government?
she got a job you fucking narrow minded racists

>>30148597
>he thinks there are winners
sad

>>30146299

I don't get why we can't just simplify unemployment checks and progressive taxation. And 'working as slaves' can be fixed by just having normal working conditions. People should contribute something to society, it just shouldn't be hell to do so.

You people think UBI will somehow fuck over rich people. No. In my country all the rich-people parties love UBI. What it does is give everyone the same amount of money, so after that is said and done they can massively cut taxes on the wealthy. Then who benefits? Layabouts and the super rich. Hard-working normal people get the shaft.

>>30148391
Pot meet kettle

>>30148846
Psychopaths and Sociopaths drive this world, everything you do will get abused by these people in one way or another. Thats why no flavour of socialism ever worked and never will work, Most people are just cattle, keep them happy and stay in power.

>>30148163
You are forming your opinion of a thing based on assumptions about the world rather than facts about that thing.

Here’s just one example of UBI implemented on a blockchain. Not saying this is an end all be all project but just giving you facts and sources. If this implementation were to be adopted it would bypass the 857 government agencies and would simplify the payout. UBI obviously needs to be censorship resistant so certain groups are not getting more than other groups unless voted upon.

https://github.com/DemocracyEarth/ubi

>>30147885
I wish, that would be a big improvement over the standard western homoglobo liberalism.

>>30148282
the death penalty should exist for repeat offenders linked to organized crime and drug crime. That way you kill off lifetime criminal demographics.

>Ah shit, cortez. This is your third time getting caught dealing drugs? Ok, bye.

>>30145724
they do. i'm canadian, but i go to the united states a lot, and the price of junk foods that poor people would buy, like chips and pop is way higher in the us than canada, i'm certain it's because canada gives out money to our poors and the us gives out food tokens

>>30149776
Killing off white trash in general would reduce crime by alot. Wealthy people don't even commit violent crime and most of what they do should porbably be legal anyway.
>muh tax evasion

>>30150041
white trash is less of a problem compared to nigger gangs and mexican drug cartels.

>>30150103
Uh yeah, go ahead and kill yourself racist fucking nazi, you're exactly whom I'm talking about

>>30144220
That's why you get a bit of gold, a bit of silver (just a tiny bit so you ain't a target) and you stack them RSRs and MATICs

>>30150191
Must be nice living in a majority white suburb your whole life, huh?

>>30147477
Hahahaha he fell for the FUD. You really think they can afford to leave the US market? Hahahaha you're fucking retarded.

>>30143723
She hot for a 45 yo

>>30149330

Socialism 'works', just not as intended. The USSR won WW2, remember? Hell, we had vertically integrated big conglomerates ourselves, which planned production and set prices (Ford, Philips, etc). They work, but they're not competitive in anything except basic commodities. Hard to innovate if you block out competition.

>>30144853
Yes

>>30143723
"More full time jobs" meaning what, exactly? 2 people instead of 0 got a job at McDonalds?

>>30145615
It got me into animation. None of my other actor friends have produced anything other than shitty karaoke covers. I've let alcohol and video games take over the last few months. Trying to kick those habits.

>>30145837
Am I the only one who doesn't see anything wrong with this?

>>30146339
you do. and without randomly selected double blind groups you have no "experiment". this is why the social sciences are a joke. they've accomplished nothing here

>>30146313
literal mental illness.

>>30145679
This. All we're going to get is an increasingly unwieldy class of serfs that can only consume until a big collapse occurs, and the violence and brutality that comes afterwards set things straight again. This probably beyond our lifetimes at least.

>>30151330
Money is a commodity.

>>30152437
>ignores the dozens of poor inbred rednecks in this thread and targets me anyway
Yeah I'm thinking you're one of them and need to die asap.

>>30144285
So you're saying that giving everyone money will increase the amount of transactions, support businesses and create general well being and happiness?

>>30144846
>they do this anyway
>ubi gives the printed money to the people instead of the printers
Seriously who is against this?

>>30143723
>person not happy
>give them $500
>"are you happier"
>yeah thanks, wow I didn't expect this
>"are you feeling more or less anxiety now"
>"I feel a lot better thanks man seriously"

>>30146249
>sold mine at $3 after feeling smug for bagholding
fuck my shit up

>>30143723
I don't see how any tax paying adult could be opposed to ubi. They are going to tax the fuck out of me and give it away to whoever they want anyway. At least with ubi I'm guaranteed to get some of it back.

>>30144157
When I see how China became global superpower after surviving biblical tier level disasters for last 100 years and is still technically in a civil war it truly makes yankland laughable

>>30154017
I have money and I'm not happy, why do you deserve to be happy with my money?

>>30146230
People were social before there was welfare you cretin.

>>30144285
You should see my friends every single time a new stimulus is announced..... It is literally just bonus money that doesn't matter to them. I don't blame them I wish I could have that mindset about dollars.

>>30144285
>give money
>person spends money
>money goes back to businesses and government through taxes

literally communism

>>30150191
get the fuck out of here you anti white piece of shit

>>30143723
I prefer a negative income tax. People would get paid half the difference between an annual income and a cutoff.
>Cutoff at $50K
>Earn $20K
>Get $15K
Of course, this would only work if most other governmental social programs are eliminated including food stamps and unemployment insurance. Many programs are basically sacred cows at this point.

On a side note, the entire federal tax system should be replaced with either a combination of universal tax deduction and flat tax rate or simply with a federal sales tax on products already hit by the Pennsylvania state sales tax.
>Universal deduction is $60K
>Flat tax rate is 15%
>Earn $70K
>Pay $1500
Or
>Pay 7% tax on video games on top of state sales tax
>Federal tax only applies to base price
>Same goes for state sales tax

>>30154121
What do you mean "your" money, you fucking mongoloid? I'm currently sitting at a huge net negative with the federal government. They would have to give me ubi for the next 30 years just to get close to getting "my" money back. Thats my fucking point.

>>30154363
this also severely prevents inflation as government doesn't have to print money that much to circulate

>>30146249
it created a lot of seething faggots who sold it for a PS5.

>>30146299
so because you didnt ask to be born into this world, i should be forced to pay for your gibs? kys nigger.

>>30154822
That’s an expensive ps5

>>30143723
I can see where her $500 is going

BRAAAAAAAPPPPFPPP-PT-Pt-PT-PT_FFFFFFF

>>30154893
What don't you understand about the word universal? At least with ubi you are guaranteed to get some of your money back. The alternative is you continue paying for others gibs and get nothing.

>>30154512
If I'm unhappy everyone else should be too, I don't give a fuck what you think you deserve.

>>30143723
oh look a fat squat disgusting unhealthy mexican woman huh weird

>>30144988
based shit, biz is seething

>>30144220
UBI is good, they just need to do away with welfare, social security, and countless other entitlement programs if they're going to implement it. They should also get rid of the minimum wage. Streamline the whole process. I don't see a scenario where you get rid of all assistance, but the way we provide it right now is awful. UBI would just simplify it all and allow more risk-taking in the economy which pays for itself if it facilitates the founding of new businesses, one of which might be the next Amazon.

>>30144623
Why? So more people who don't need social security get it? It would cost a lot more to be less effective. It's ultimately pointless

>>30155159
You're not even coherent you stupid piece of shit.

>>30155065
it becomes more clear to me each and every day why genocide is a regular historical occurrence.

>>30155473
How about instead of welfare we just give you a bullet shower? White trailer trash parasite.

>>30155542
It becomes more clear to me every day that
getting fucked in your gay ass is a regular historical occurrence for you

>>30144781
Based and doom pilled.

>>30146249
You would hope people buying coins on Uniswap before last year would have made a good amount of money by now

>this entire thread

>>30147616
There's also thousands of years of human history where a food surplus would be absurd

>>30143723
WOW 125 people that settles it UBI works now just give everyone 100 million a day!

>>30144285
>guns
>ammo

>110iq
why are you mutts so fucking retarded

>>30145270
They would if there wasn't a literally never-ending supply of cheap labor flooding every single developed country suppressing wages in low skill sectors.

>>30156532
>buy 100 mosins for $100 10 years ago
>sell them for $400 in 2021
>"DURRR U R SO RITARDED DURRR"

>>30144285
Based bap book poaster

>>30155065
>instead of taking $1000 from you I take $2000 from you now
>but you get $500 back, so you should be happy
leftoids are unironically this dumb

>>30144996
don't forget the jews peddling their crappy ideas

>>30144220
Hello what is your favorite ant?

>>30157079
True. But then housing prices would go down. Can't have that.

We don’t need to experiment to know that theft, counterfeiting and slavery is wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3cd6nzyvhs

>>30157676
The ants they crawl. We save them for last.

>>30143723
You sound like a faggot

>>30153149
kek where does this money they're given come from? FROM TAXPAYERs? Idiot. So we'll just take more in tax to give out Great idea shlomo