/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>30106478
Im a self employed cryptocurrency trader

>>30106888
Same

>>30106478
>live in small town because my parents fucking SUCK
>find one security job in the first time in my life
>call them 2 hours after it was listed
>90 people already applied
>look for boring data entry desk job
>10/hr
>need masters degree and 10 years experience

MY FUCKING PARENTS RUINED MY LIFE

I've got two jobs and made $190k last year between the two of them. God is good! Anyway, quit being a weird lazy cunt. I know grocery stores are hiring.

>>30106478
I can't do it. the whole process: the applications, the automated fake-considerate rejections, the dehumanizing interviews. its not right.

there was heaps of jobs last year during lockdown, now everyone rushing for a job lol

I was a neet from 2017 until this January when someone I know just gave me a job wthout me having to interview for anything. That's the only reason I never got one after I graduated. I think interviews are gay.

>>30106478
I am in aviation, my industry was hit like a motherfucker. Still get interviews, with airbus, Boeing, bombardier, Lufthansa, etc. No luck so far, lots of competition.
>t. 2 years experience aerospace masters

>>30106966
step one to being successful is to stop blaming other people for your problems

>>30107151
>I think interviews are gay.
They surely are and they're not interviews more like some kind of kike psych assessment

I fucking hate those empowered HR cunts

>>30106478
Im gonna have to start applying again when (if) all of this shit is over
What the fuck am i supposed to do if i have no references?
every job wants 3 fucking references and ill be lucky if i get 1
my last 2 jobs i sperged out and quit so they hate me
does anyone have any good tricks to get around this? (no i have no friends either)

>>30107379
Pay Karpal a few bucks on fivverr or just lie about running your own biz

Or just keep beeing neet

>>30107379
lie about everything. don't be honest with these corporate employers they would stab you in the back for a nickel.

Lol what? My linkedin is literally exploding with offers. I might live in a second world country like Bulgaria but at least outsourcing is super strong here.

>>30107379
Ask, ask even those that you think hate you.
Also, this >>30107434
>>30107434

>>30106966
boohoo move to a big city then

>>30107379
I'll be your reference

>>30106478
>How many have given up looking for a job at this point?
I didn't look for the past decade or so. Enjoying the NEET life, never going back to my wage cage. I prefer to be dirt poor or even die rather than having to face the literal sheol modern workplace is.

>>30107495
Thank God I escaped wageslavery before I ever needed a linkedin

>>30106929
>>30106888
how, pls give guide.

How the fuck do I even use macd + rsi together?

I literally haven't done shit at my job for the past six months and I am still getting paid about $120k/yr. Coronavirus was the best thing to happen to me.

>>30106478
I thought that was normal, I see ads with that many applications all the time on linkedin

>>30106966
you can only blame your parents up to a point. Once you finally realize your life sucks, if you're not doing anything to change it you're the only one to blame

>>30107031
Working isn't right anon. We're slaves to the matrix

Many, as is evident from the drop in participation rate, which in turns drops the unemployment rate despite weak job growth and in some cases, job losses. The proportion of working-age Americans that is actually employed is the lowest ever in decades. The "unemployment" rate is a very poor metric of actual labour force mobilisation. Total employed = Participation rate - (Participation rate * unemployment rate). We are years off being back to where we were pre-COVID and I don't think the US will ever exceed its 90's and pre-GFC labour force productivity.

>>30108031
i WILL ALWAYS BLAME THEM

>>30106888

Same. I graduated with a masters of finance a year ago but haven’t bothered looking at employment sites at all. I don’t want to be part of that madness.

>>30106478
I started a job 4 months ago and I'm already thinking of an exit to start a business with my sister

>>30108049
better than being a homeless to the matrix

>>30108424
good idea, I hear onlyfans is very lucrative these days

>>30106966
Similar here - I ended up having to wait 1.5 years until I got a job in London. I don't blame my parents for living in the countryside though and I'd hate to have grown up a city boy instead.

>>30108886
>Live and work in London
>Impossible to buy a house
>Desperate to leave this shithole
>If I leave there's no jobs or there's a 2 hour commute each way

>>30106478
Why work?

Im literally getting more from UI than I did working 40 hours a week with 10 hours worth of commute each week

the age of the wagie is over

>>30108798
God dammit now I need to coom

>>30106478
On the verge of just taking a retail job and at the same time not looking for a better job to replace it with. At this point it's really hoping my investments pull off a huge gain to make it so I don't need a job. That or hope my self employment idea works out.

>>30106478
I've received so many job offers as a programmer over the past few months and I'm still working at a very comfy job. Can't relate, considering myself lucky

>>30106966
Why are you blaming your parents anon. I grew up to a poor family in a village in Eastern Europe. At 18 I moved out to pursue knowledge and now at 25 I have a good job in one of Europes capitals.

>>30109018
what is UI?

I don't have to, I get free corona gibs which I use to buy shitcoins.

>>30106478
>uk
>work

Pretty sure pajeet sunak just prints infinite amounts of money to pay for zombie companies, niggers and single mothers with 4 unrelated children.

>>30109384
unemployment

>>30106478
lol why look for jobs when we are going full weimar

Burger here, I haven’t worked in nearly a whole year. Despite what leftists say our COVID relief has been insane, I was getting $750 a week until January but it’s gone down to $550 a week and my state doesn’t require me to look for a job to file my weekly claim. I fucking love COVID

>>30108381
I got my BA in accounting 2 months so I'm not quite a masters chad like you but at this point I'm glad to get out. No CPA either for me since I don't want to commit to this career path. I'm debt free but I also have no job

Believe me jobs aren't worth it. I'm a chartered accountant and I'm bored as fuck. Hate my job, hate this country. Only got into crypto in the last few weeks. I feel like I'm too late to the party, but I'm desperately searching for the next 100x willing to drop my life savings of £20k into it because if I make it I can quit this shit job and live the life I want. And if I don't make it if can hang myself

>>30109632
You live in the US?

>>30109632
No I'm in UK

>>30109420
never heard anyone pronounce the as vuh, not even a council spacker. 0/10

>>30109799
A bong huh. I've always asked myself where I'd move to if I could. I live in California but I'm not taking advantage of this place since I'm a shut in

I've been unemployed since 2016. I went to college and did a couple years of computing courses but covid fucked that up and failed working from home. I've had so many years of being a NEET since I left high school I don't see a way out.
I can't claim UC because I rent out the flat I bought when I was working and saved up enough.
I have a small amount invested in long stocks and I volunteer at a charity to give me something to do and hopefully give me a reference/recent work experience.
I'd recommend that to you OP, volunteering might be a way in to something. If you're signing on I think they can cover your travel expenses?

>>30106966
cope, your family should have rural maxxed even further

>>30107379
if youre good at accents get some burner phones from walmart, set up google voice numbers for them if you need to change the area code, and then just be your own reference. bonus points for leaning full into racial stereotype voices
>'UHHHH HERROO PREASE MISTAH ANON VERY GOOD WORKER NUMBAH WAN'

and fuck it, tell them you worked at all those places 3+ years and managed X amount of people in each position.
>UHHH HERRO JOBU DEPAHTMENT PREASE?

Everyone is talking about ecosystem
can’t remember at least 1 project with full-workable eco
and these poor dumbs try to scam with their trashprojects
well, if you are an autist you can invest in it
I am smart enough and have enecuum ecosystem and their mining

>>30109873
>I live in California but I'm not taking advantage of this place since I'm a shut in

Theres nothing to take advantage of anymore really, that faggot Gavin dealt the finishing blow to this decaying shithole.

>>30106966
Fucking ungrateful piece of shit. I live in a city and it's shit. Pakis everywhere, loud, and still no fucking jobs. Shut the fuck up.

>>30109467
this guy gets it

>>30109862
There was a kid at my school who did. Got a lot of shit for it. Wasn't actually a bad guy, but that's the way it goes.

>>30109862
You're not from the norf are you southr'un

Just started an MBA program. Road to nowhere?

>>30110429
What's your field of study?

>>30109600
>tfw work an “essential” job
>can’t get unemployment if you never got fired
>make less per week than people on unemployment
I’ve been unironically thinking about going on a shooting spree in Minecraft

>>30110397
I'm from the North and have never heard anyone use 'vuh'. It's 'duh', as in 'D'nhs'.

>>30106478
>1000 people chasing one position
I can guarantee the vast majority of the applicants are online ones that just clicked "apply" because it's worth a go, even if they don't meet the criteria.

>tfw set for life in a cushy public sector job with a gold plated pension and complete job security while working from home

>>30106478
Lie on your CV. I can not recommend this enough. Say you have skills and experience you don’t have. Then just learn them all before you start.

>>30109632
Wtf you have enough to buy 1k LINK. We've talked about LINK going to $1000 for 4 years and your still ignoring it? ngmi

>>30110086
Based advice
Am doing this now

>>30106478
maybe if we vote for democrats so they destroy border security and allow millions of unvetted unchecked people into the country illegally the problem will fix itself

there are loads jobs
niggers just apply so they can keep getting unemployment

i had 20 interviews in the past 2 weeks
only 5 showed up
hired 4
only one passed drug test

>>30106966
Stay poor with your devil digits then. While everyone else is partying your gonna be out here napping; on the streets. We are in a once-in-a-lifetime golden bull-run and it's about time you pull out.

>>30111189
kek

>work IT
>been at current company for 7yrs
>good benefits but pay upgrades have started to suck, can’t get any pay upgrade with out getting certs
>hated IT since working in it
>look around for jobs
>any other job wants me to kys just thinking about working as a wagie

Yeah I’m out on this one frens. I’m hoping to quit my job EOY and start to live off my crypto gains in some way and start to do other things in the meantime.

No normie job is worth it at all right now imo. Pay sucks and wtf wants to be a wagie under these conditions? There’s no purpose or meaning to our declining society.

I hope you other lads can all make it and not have to deal with the current hell we live in!

>>30107434
I didn't find any "Karpal" on fivverr. What is it?

>>30107713
just find a good project, buy and wait anon. u will probably make more money than trying to day trade

>>30111613
are you me? i quit my IT job 2 years ago been NEET since then.

>>30106478
dhedge fixes this problem. will be fewer job seekers this way

tsmc is hiring for their new arizona plant for you engineer and technician wagecucks. you have to go to taiwan for 18months for training tho but hey you get paid training. i would do it if i didnt have my current job at a government contractor company. thanks warmongering joe, sorry i voted against you kek

>1,000 people chase one position
Same in 1933
Same in 1950
Same in 1981
Same in 2011
There's nothing new under the sun anon

>>30112597
>>30112597
>>30112597

Budget LIVE get in here.

>>30111613
>fucking hate my IT job
>realize other jobs suck even more
Just have to make it with crypto.

>>30110429
>2021
>MBA
the days of cruising through some retarded curriculum and getting a 50% boost to your salary are long gone, what the fuck are you doing?

>>30106478
The hard-working Pakistani doesn't need to look for a job. He creates his own job with his corner shop.

>>30106478
>1000 people chase 1 position

Sounds like Canada for the last 25 years

>>30108424
Link us your pornsite account later, anon

>>30109913
How much do you make a month anon? You rent some rooms in your flat and that pays for stuff? I'm in a similar position but I also have a job

>>30108424
Try to find something instawhores or Arthoes will buy, my sisters started buying pet treats in bulk and put them in cute packages with 5x markup and sell plenty

>>30109632
>>30109799
Orion Protocol my friend, Staking will return your 20k yearly, you could even become a broker and get 0.02% of every trade

>>30106478
I applied two a few jobs yesterday and already have two interviews this week. I would love to see all these low level worker's resumes.

>>30106888
same. so comfy.

>>30106478
I’ve accepted the fact that I probably wont find a graduate position after I graduate this year so I’m hopefully going to get a comfy Civil Service job. There is an MoD rehabilitation centre near my town and I saw a job where all you do is give people temporary I.D. cards for 24k, 37 hours a week plus you get to use the onsite pool and gym. Will be living at home so my expenses will be low so I can dump my earnings into crypto during the bear market and hopefully make it during the next bull run.

Trying to find an internship during my exchange in europe
>arrived in january last year
>by march everything was cancelled and only shitty online classes remain
>come back home
>start applying here
>only this
>>30107031

Having no previous experience sucks. I hate everything. I wish I went to trade school instead of wasting my time with EE.

>>30115356
tried to find* jesus fuck cellphone

>>30107031
>upload resume
>next 7 pages is manually filling out all the information that is on your resume
I've given up on making it.

>>30107713
stop bothering with meme lines
invest in either fundamentals (longterm gains) or hype (short/midterm gains)
if you invest in fundamentals you just buy and hold for years, sell as it rises and buy as it goes down (with LIMIT orders set well in advance, not emotions)
if you invest in hype, you follow twitter/discord/telegram faggots and you jump on anything new based on how new it is and how popular it is, with a small % of your portfolio (1%, 2%, 10% absolute max), you choose a price point to get out before you buy and you get out once that price point is reached

>>30115764
this sucks my energy more than anything. I probably have 30+ accounts on different companies with the EXACT same shit.

>>30115865
based advice

>>30106888
>>30106478
>>30106929
I am planning on hoarding a vital ingredient for home food and then selling it at a markup in an online shop. Writing a book on crypto trading and learning more coding. Looking for a remote job doing stuff. And crypto trading. But if all that fails I'm still on unemployment lol.

>>30106966
Zoomie you gotta get some skills. Consider programming+HVAC.

>>30116891
you should get the rope disgusting landlord

>>30117481
I don't own any land, faggot. Learning actual in-demand skills that are useful and pairing them up is the first step towards becoming a full business owner/self-employed egoist.

Quick reminder that Bobos have predicted 300 of the last 3 cryptomarket crashes. Fuck you Bobo, enjoy this green candle.

>>30107031
>anon why do you want to work for us
CUZ I WANT MONEY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Interview today and another on Monday.
I applied for about 150 jobs and had 5 interviews other than these two. First year grades in law school can doom you to the auto-reject pile.
Volunteer in the area you are trying to find work, learn as much as you can yourself, make yourself more attractive to employers. Its a rigged game but you can squeeze through my fellow autists.

If you already have a bachelors degree it only takes one year of uni to get a bachelor's in nursing. $50/hr is on the low end and you're lucky if they don't require overtime. People don't do this because either they are not smart enough to get into a nursing program or they are smart enough to see its extremely underpaid and working conditions are shit.
Sirgay needs to quit fucking around and gib steaking already. I just need between 3 and 4%. If blockfi scammers can offer 5.5% for custodial rugpull scam surely he can find a way to give us 3.5% that's not going to mtgox us.

>>30106478
I gave up 5 years ago

>>30115865
Any good telegram or discord suggestions?

lmao check how this dumped genius tries to have some money from these poor people

Fuck him.
Already took part in yield farming on YVS Finance and their genius staking model with low fees. That’s what you should check first now

>>30106888
Monthly income: -2,700

>>30106966
Just move you self-pity filled faggot

>20 years old
>0 work experience
>Math undergrad with 0 skills
>Pretended to know some data analysis
>Found 80k job within 2 months of searching
Maybe it's harder if ur a fucking server or something but idk man doesn't feel bad to me in tech

>>30109018
It won't last forever though. Once the additional covid benefits get cut, there's gonna be an even bigger rush of people searching for jobs.

>>30120196
who cares, this society in its current form is over

>>30115865
Fundamentals and crypto kek.

>>30120288
That's what everyone says every time there's an economic downturn. But if you wanna live the neet life I say go for it.

>>30115865
very good advice desu

>>30120527
>this is just another "economic downturn"

youre living in a dreamworld

>>30110188

Voting won’t remove them bub

Hey guys.

Can you check out Mochimo?

I have seen it posted all over but I need to know if i should get in now.

>>30119095
Kek accurate

Here in Spain can go up to 4000 people inscribed in the same job offer

>>30106888
"Digital Asset Manager"

the lockdowns and constant fear mongering blew a huge hole in the economy and probably wont ever repair itself or recover.

>>30106478
Now who's "selling himself short and not reaching his potential" by taking the 6 figure government job?
Never thought I'd get to say this twice in 2 decades (2008 the other time) but here we are.

>>30106966
fuck off and never come back

>>30107094
Only the poors because they were taking advantage of the free gibs. Middle and upper class barely suffered job loss. I'm an attorney and I've just worked from home for the past year

>>30106888
CHECKEDDD AND BASED
I'm an >alternative currency asset manager

>>30120859
Spain has one of the lowest retail participation rates in europe, around 50%. So half working age population is unemployed, and it was just as bad before covid :D

Usa retail force participation rate 62%, so 40% real unemplyoment.

Generally speaking always look at retail force part rate, forget politically adjusted unemplloyment rate. For example germany has horrible real unemplyoement rate while their "unemployment" rate is only 4%. Same goes with japan, they too use politically adjusted rates to make it look better

>>30106888
graduate back in December stopped looking for a job in jan. So far English teaching online as a side job (once a week), but im like you too lol anon

>>30123087
Why does no one talk about this. I don't get it.

>>30123441
normies are too stupid to have their own best interest in mind

>>30123441
its mostly common knowledge that governments fudge or use unrepresentative figures to paint a particular narrative

>>30124216
But why does the media go along with it? I mean whenever Trump talked about low unemployment the msm could just point to workforce participation going down.

>>30124306
the media serves the government. western nations have been completely taken over by traitors who have control of our economies, media, politics and education.

>>30106478
I made it so I don't have to work I just read the DIA Chart daily and smile.

>>30121198
>>30122537
nice fellas, i now have a job title

It was like this in May last year when I was applying to a 18hr WHSmith job, the guy said he said 2.5 applicants in 3 days.

No I didn't get it thank fuck

You don't need a job. Most of you don't it's your turn on the genocide ride. More than half of you will be dead by 2022.

>>30107776
What job?

That story is from August 2020

>>30125146
because of the vaccines? or will the famine come that soon?

>>30125330
it probably hasnt changed tho tbf

>>30125021

>>30107776
Eng here. 100% working from home since March 2020; work about 5-10 hrs a week and paid for 40.

If you actually have skills that are needed getting a job isn't hard. But if you have a generic communications degree with a minor in French you're fucked.

>>30125697
Eng here. I wear a mask all day, have to do a mandatory ergonomic/stretching routine that’s announced via PA, I make $50k, and I’m often asked to work weekends. Does anyone know what bridges are good for suicide?
Also, any self taught programmers that got work eventually? If I survive the spring I might just quit and code full time. Might have to sell some crypto but at least I could study full time.

>>30125668
<[Address protected]

>>30106966
you're so full of shit
not to mention that you are totally useless as a person

>>30109384
Urinary injections

>>30125668
You should list your gains if you say you list something like that.

>>30115865
Wow, none retarded investing on biz for once

>>30125969
what did he mean by this

>>30106966
unlike most others who have responded, i understand the frustration of living in a small ass town with few job prospects. the travelling to cities for a decent job is an inconvenience. i also understand the frustration of the over-saturated job market. my advice? become self employed, dont work for anyone. what i ended up doing was learning to drive, buying a car and working as a self-employed delivery driver with the 3 major food delivery companies here. You can earn about the same as what the data entry job you looked at pays but you have the freedom to choose when you want to work. That was the best job ive ever had. Anytime i worked for someone i loathed it. With the money i made from that i was able to put decent amounts into crypto. I can still do it whenever i want but i dont need to anymore cause i did very well with crypto in 2020/21, and now im getting paid in farming/staking while i sleep, shit, eat and play playstation.

>can't trust unemployment statistics
>can't trust inflation metrics
>can't trust GDP calculations
>can't trust stock market valuations

How are you supposed to make financial decisions? I guess they want you to give up and buy the new iPhone :)

>>30126479
anon I just got a drivers loicense, how do i make money with it?

>>30126074
You can be an "entrepreneur" or found a "startup" but if you can't show that you made any money or had any customers then it's taking up useless space on your resume.

>>30127007
>if you can't show that you made any money
I can, I have "receipts" of buys and the few coins I have, everything documented etc
but.. Won't they think I'm retarded if I pull up with that, I mean, for boomers it's a ridiculous sum, and maybe they'll start seething

>>30120720
If this becomes a threat, the people behind it will die in mysterious nailgunnings, hot tubbings, falls and car accidents.

>>30126645
get a delivery job. but if you dont want that being able to drive also opens up opportunities for other jobs. its always a positive if you drive and have a car.

>>30106478
i started my own buisness selling shit. i highly reccomend doing your own thing. if you have big boy commitments i can understand why people are hesitant.

>>30127279
I dont have a car, useless costs, am i fucked?

>>30127210
You really need to say that in your resume though or it's assumed you didn't actually do anything.

>>30127316
you can get jobs where the company lends you a van

>be me
>graduate in 2018 with stem degree
>apply to jobs in the field
>work landscaping with my buddy during 2018 for money
>still applying in 2019
>work landscaping for my buddy and someone he knows
>get a few interviews in 2019, no job
>my buddy moves and the other person stops because of muh covid
>apply to jobs in my field ALL 2020
>get a few interviews, no job
>now applying for landscaping jobs in 2021
I've come to terms with it. I just want a reliable job that i can use to save money to buy land. Landscaping is hard work but it's nice to work in nature. I don't have >years of experience because no one will hire me so I can get it. I fell for the college meme.

>>30127332
how would that look? I'm 18yo and socially "blind", not sure how to explain, basically I act like an autist without being autistic, social norms are a mystery to me, have a hard time larping as a professional
if it were to me, I'd just write a greentext why they should pic me
but I'm good when it comes to researching crypto and picking good coins so at least there is that

>>30127527
>how would that look?
on paper i mean

>>30106478
In the applications mark yourself as a black woman. When you get an interview just play ignorant, maybe it was an HR mistake? system glitch? muh IT idk

>>30127522
Should have lied.

Are you 21?
If so, you can deliver for Amazon.
Not a lot of room for growth but you'll earn$16+ per hour on 8-10 hour days and it's stable

>>30127527
>>30127619
Just put (turned 10k initial investment into 350k over the period of 18 months) or whatever your gains are, after what you have.

Get a government council job on an equity advisory board. It's job security for "studies" degrees at this point.

>>30127722
Probably. I did stretch my "laboratory experience" a bit. I only had educational experience but didn't really specify that.

>>30106478
Genuine question to USbros:
Do you actually just have to 'send your resume'? Over here, literally every job expects a motivational letter. It's just the default way to apply to a job here. Coming up with bullshit reasons for why I want to work for some bumfuck company is the one thing that keeps draining my energy.

>>30106478
I have a lung condition. Without a vaccine or herd immunity happening I am fucked. Otherwise getting another job in IT wouldnt be an issue but it would most likely be at lower pay.
Yes, I am already on the vaccine waiting list.
Yes, being exposed 8 hours + having a mask restricting my breathing will hurt me.
No, I am not eligible for Social Security Disability even when going to back and forth to a hospital. But Shaniqua with her headaches somehow is.
So on unemployment. leeching the system and putting most into crypto.

>>30106478
but many people are still employed
there's no excuse honestly - its 100% your fault
look around you, your parents are employed, your friends are employed. You are just a failure.

>>30127897
Is that basically a cover letter? Many places want your resume and a cover letter, and some require it.

>>30127761
they'll still think I'm an entitled cunt right?
and I'd feel weird putting my financial "situation" on a resume

>>30106966
HONK HONK HONK HONK

>>30128090
It's the only proof that you are actually capable of making money. They can at least ask you about it.

>>30128054
Yeah, it's a cover letter. I was just wondering if people really just send out CVs since that's the phrase I keep hearing about application processes.

>>30107592
Jobs are still hard to find and rents are astronomical in cities

>>30127897
Don't bother with cover letters. No one does that anymore.

>>30128193
I can put % numbers on it, like
8000% Over 4 Months - or whatever, should i bring proof? yes right?

>>30127685
I've definitely started marking "i'd prefer not to answer" when they ask for my race/ethnicity. Not sure if it's made a difference or not tho

>>30127897
Yes for entry level jobs it's pretty common. Resume/cv and custom tailored cover letter (wagie pledge). Then Tammy from HR throws them away because they already have 9 manager's kids and 1 diversity hire to fill every opening

>>30111189
Yeah right boomer

>>30128193
and a better question, should i put that on there at all?? like lets say i want to apply to some burger flipping job?
and thanks for talking the time to answer every retarded question i have

>>30106966
move to the city, you will crawl back crying if you think small towns are not comfy

>>30106478
spent a 2 months looking for a job and 4 interviews later im here flipping books on ebay and trading crypto. this plus setting up a show promo website to capture the promoters + showgoers here in my city so my music can (((blow up)))

>>30127979

>>30106966
Any job posting in the nyc metropolitan area gets like 1000 applications in the first 3 days. 90 is nothing.

>>30128275
Turning 100 dollars into 8000 is less spectacular than a higher initial amount, because anyone can gamble and throw money on red. You can say (details on request) afterwards, don't need to give proof in the resume itself.

>>30128382
>burger flipping
You risk sounding overqualified if you are applying for fast food jobs. I figured this was for internships.

>>30106478
Got one today after applying to 12 places. No previous experience btw

>>30109384
uranus input

>>30128538
Boomrr

>>30110654
>>30110397
>>30109862

>Well, I'm from Utica, and I've never heard anyone use the phrase "vuh"
>Oh, not in Utica. No. It's an Albany expression.
>I see.

>>30128538
What industry? This is the kind of due diligence I like.

>>30128486
>Turning 100 dollars into 8000 is less spectacular
I did 1.7k to 50k
>I figured this was for internships.
I'd like to do web/software development but I keep getting rejected
so now I just want to get some shitty retail job and put the money in crypto

>After L2 we'll have jobs !

>>30128576
Medical supplies

>>30106966
>Small town
Walk up to farms with your resume and a firm handshake. Literally hold a sign up at the gas station "looking for work" If you aren't fat you will get a job you lazy fuck.

>>30107379
I'll be your reference fren

>>30128638
I started an online business and got my software job saying I did SEO optimization and things like that relevant to an online business and to the software job, and listed my revenue (even if margins were literally zero). Hell you can open a tee shirt store tomorrow and make 10 grand in a month with zero margin (and thus make nothing), but that sounds good on a resume.

>>30128638
>want to get some shitty retail job and put the money in crypto
I've seen this said a lot. For me it's buy land but it's the same sentiment. I applied for a job and interviewed for it and a boomer got the job instead of a recent graduate like me. Seems like working outside my field for money to save is the best path.

>>30128657
bullish

>falling for the wagie meme

Ngmi

>>30106478
How hard/recommended is it to start your own company so you have a period of employment to put on resumes?

>>30106966
Italybro here, fuck all those hateful american replies, they don't know how bad it is to be cut out of the job market

>>30128962
Extremely easy if you have capital to buffer (and know how)

>>30106478
I've given up on life OP.
>21, still live with my mom.
>No job, $3k in savings ($9k in crypto and stocks).
>No motivation to find a job or go to college or do anything in my life.
>Even if I wanted to move out I don't have enough savings to do so, so I would have to wage at wally world or something.
Really makes me just want to buy a gun and end it all which is extremely easy to do in my state.

>>30107379
The reference thing is so obnoxious. I hate having to do that because it feels like an inconvenience for the people I list. As many have already said, the person checking your references won't typically fact check much other than calling them to make sure you're not a piece of shit. You could basically get anyone to larp for you and give good references.

>>30129218
unironically learn to code

>>30107693
It's Facebook, but with people bragging about loving their wagie jobs. Fucking repulsive. I had a profile for about 4 years. Gained nothing from it, other than pajeets trying to scam me with their bitcoin deals. Or I would get a message from a headhunter that would then never follow through with anything.

>>30129295
I'll always find an excuse to never improve myself. I'm also really fucking terrible at math, which makes me think I wouldn't be a good fit for coding. I dropped the C++ course I took because I didn't understand what I was doing.

>>30129218
Start putting some of that cash into high paying dividend stocks. And/or crypto accounts that pay high interest (e.g., BlockFi, Celsius). Get that passive income stream growing now while you can. Pick up a part-time gig, something that doesn't make you want to blow your brains out, and continue to live with your mom while you grow that nest egg. Drop that social stigma and realize you are in a prime location to hold onto a good chunk of your income now.

>>30129218
I graduated at 30.

>>30129561
try web design, its barely coding and pretty fun

>>30128568
>Boomrr
Kek a lot of you guys really fuck yourselves with this attitude. Who owns the majority of small business? BOOMERS. Who constantly tells you a firm handshake works? Boomers! Perhaps you should actually listen to them. Seek them out in person, explain that you are young, eager to learn the trade and willing to take less $ until you are experienced and deserve it. You'd be surprised how far enthusiasm for working goes with the older generation. Look up local companies with less than 10 employees and just show up and talk to them.
T. Millennial who has been working for boomers for over 10 years.

>>30106966
Apply to do mortgage related work online/remote. Industry is booming.
Search mortgage on indeed.com

>>30110086
Actually good advice

>>30129058
yeah, well I'm broke and retarded, so how hard would it be for me? Can I just pick up "How to start a C-corporation for dummies" and be good, or will there be a manner of hustle requisite to these shenanigans?

>>30110086
lmfao

>>30129770
*sip*

>>30106478
Amazon is the only comppany that will hire above minimum wage, I keep hearing bad things about it but it's "a great opportunity lol"

I wasn't even looking for a wagie cagie pre-COVID.

t. on NEETbux for 10 years.

>>30129854
Figure out the pipeline from producing/whitelabeling/buying a product from china and getting it to someone's door and you have a business. The difficulty is actually making money after adspend, but if you said you don't care because it's for a resume then that should be fine.

Spend about 200 hours looking at youtube tutorials by youtube gurus who are just trying to scam you into buying their dropshipping courses and you will end up with enough information to actually do something (keep in mind most info out there is trying to scam you and make you think you can be rich from it).

>>30119193
>>Pretended to know some data analysis
how'd you get away with this? also a math undergrad with no skills going to look for jobs soon

>>30106888
checked this crash will be glorious I hope you cash out in time and/or catch a good short entry.

>>30109632
so it begins....

>>30129579
I hate living with my mom as I've gotten older. I'm gonna try to suck it up though. We argue a lot and my life consists of babysitting my niece and nephew and taking care of my sister's dog every day. I know I'm complaining about minor stuff while I have a free place to stay but this shit really grows to bother you.

>>30120296
i guess it's basically eth and xmr maybe if we are talking about fundamentals in crypto

>>30126479
>>30127279
>self-employed delivery driver with the 3 major food delivery companies here
Can you elaborate please mate? I've got driving experience and can borrow transport

>>30130388
When I went to buy my first home and calculated how much I spent on rent the previous 3 years it was a kick in the teeth. I had so much regret for moving out as I would have had double my downpayment. Grass is always greener...

>>30129218
I'd say most people feel a certain amount of demotivation even pre-corona, but especially at the minute.

>21
>3k savings
>9k crypto and stocks

You can make it.
To get over your demotivation you need testosterone + exercise.

>>30106966
I grew up on a farm in a hick ass town with one stoplight. Move you scared widdle baby. Stop bitching.

>>30130264
thank you, this is helpful.

>(keep in mind most info out there is trying to scam you and make you think you can be rich from it)
this is good life advice for the 21st century in general, unfortunately

>>30130583
Exercise is a really good idea desu. I need to get on that. The most I've been getting lately is walking our dog.

I have a friend who was fired during last year after less than a year in his first job, went on benefits, and he has now got a good job despite being kind of an autist and lazy.

He has an engineering degree.

>>30125668
jesus this is bloody brilliant

>>30106478
Feels good being a student at my parent's house.
Almost NEET-tier.

>>30106888
thanks for your contribution to society

>>30130583
>To get over your demotivation you need testosterone + exercise.
No. The only motivation anyone needs is the motivation to live. This faggot lives with his parents still so they are just going to baby him, which is infinitely worse in the long run than moving out and getting some job working paycheck to paycheck.

God damn i hate younger people on this board. They whine like they have it so bad and how life should just hand them a high paying job lmao. If this anon wants to end it now then might as well because its only going to get harder. I would suggest growing up and stop being a pussy.

>>30106966
Wow its almost like living away from cities is a fucking retarded idea

>>30130940
They actually do have it bad and you're an asshole.

>>30108299
This, U6 is the closest number to "real" unemployment, which is consistently 5% higher than official numbers, and even it is significantly underreported since it cuts out people on certain welfare programs and vets.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate

>>30109467
I'm starting to think /pmg/ is right.

>>30125668
>buzz words
>no actual information
Yep. Looks like a typical resume id see.

>>30130940
>moving out and getting some job working paycheck to paycheck.
You suggest he traps himself as a rentcuck with a low paying job in a cycle of poverty? That's pretty shitty advice considering what he could accomplish while still at his parents.

>>30130388
Hahaha I completely understand. It's a huge tradeoff for sure. Financial stability vs. personal space. Gotta make some sort of sacrifice though. Especially if you're 21 then it might be worth sucking it up and hustling as much as you can now so that by the time you're in your late 20s, you'll have much more financial wiggle room.

>>30106478

I have a cushy one that pays me a decent one for not much work. As long as I make deadlines, everything's okay. Sometimes I even get to actually do some data analysis. Most days I just goof off and network on twitch.

Hoping to make it with BAT so I can quit.

>>30106478
>BS Required
>MS Preferred
>Minimum five years experience
>Salary and benefits competitive
>MFW the boomer VPs got the job by just walking in with clean cloths and a firm handshake

>>30106478 (OP)

I have a cushy one that pays me a decent one for not much work. As long as I make deadlines, everything's okay. Sometimes I even get to actually do some data analysis. Most days I just goof off and network on twitch .

Hoping to make it with BAT so I can quit.

>>30131295
This. Housing is just too expensive.

>>30110429
Depends on your undergrad major. It doesn't make sense if your undergrad was finance or commerce, since you could just do your CPA or CFA in the same time frame and get a more valuable qualification. Good engineers should get a PEng and techies can get better certs like CISSP.
If you have a science degree or one of the less valuable eng degrees, you can use it to segue into a more lucrative management role. If you have previous management experience, an eMBA and/or PMP is a killer combo.

>>30130940
>The only motivation anyone needs is the motivation to live. This faggot lives with his parents still so they are just going to baby him, which is infinitely worse in the long run than moving out and getting some job working paycheck to paycheck.
the easiest refutation of this asinine boomer platitude is looking out your window. Most people live like this, and few people substantially improve their lot in life.

>>30110429
You might just be spending the prime years of your life and completely throwing them away in academia.

>>30110429
Better be adding that MBA onto a deli and masters degree or doctorate cause if not you’ll just go into the pool of the tens of thousands of MBAs working as bar tenders and baristas. Especially if you are a white male.

>>30129218
youre only 21 mate youre still a kid pretty much

>>30106478
Im an Australian essential worker on 80k a year

>>30130940
>No. The only motivation anyone needs is the motivation to live.
This is so terribly wrong it hurts. Being alive is such a low bar it is met extremely easily. To get the most out of life you need to be responsible for something, or someone.

>>30130940
>and stop being a pussy

aka. testosterone.

How does he know he isn't low T? Shit can happen even to 21 y/os.

I agree with the overall general sentiment of stop being a pussy though. Sometimes you just have to force yourself to stop being a bitch. You just have to experiment and try to keep finding solutions.
Crypto and the stock market will drill this mindset into him as well. As soon as you start acting like a bitch you're likely to get rekt.

That said, you also need breaks. Chill out, drink some beer, play some vidya.

>>30131173
Suffering leads to improvement. Unless you're an absolute lump of goo. Being in a shitty situation is supposed to make your brain work to figure out how to change your reality.
Just like lifting weights destroys your muscle fibers before they grow back bigger and stronger. Settling for cozy life at parents house will not force you to grow.

>>30110655
As if not literally anyone with college level math could do most white collar work.
Srs, I understand minimum qualifications for doctors and civil engineers, but most CRUD software dev, finance and marketing jobs, especially at the entry level, can be done by anyone with 90 IQ or better. Companies should just pick the resumes from the top of the pile when they need a position filled and be done with it.

>>30127897
I recently saw a job listing for GROUNDSKEEPING that wanted a cover letter.

>>30130498
yeah there are delivery jobs available with companies who will lend you the van. After a while you can afford to buy your own. Have a look on indeed. The only caveat is that you'll have to pass a drugs/alcohol test.

>>30131574
Trust me I know. There's so much I don't know about the world yet. Really all I want is some fulfillment in life, but even when I've waged I've never gotten it. I've been a NEET for 7 months and my mentality is the worst its ever been.

>>30131626
>How does he know he isn't low T? Shit can happen even to 21 y/os.
How can someone tell?

is that real? will this coin make me rich mr anon?
or you just try to scam people with shit
>I have already hold SWG and got bonuses
>BSC will be cool for platform development

>>30131632
>Being in a shitty situation is supposed to make your brain work to figure out how to change your reality.
Which can easily be said about living with your parents. The fear of ending up an apartmentcuck in a ghetto area for life is also a good motivational tool. The problem is once people enter that lifestyle it is extremely hard to escape-i've been there and don't recommend it to anyone. Almost all your income is sucked up by just living, and you have little time for further education. Opportunities which start with little pay but provide high skill are unattainable due to rent being due.

>>30131755
Blood test.

Also, if you have a shitty junk diet, don't get vitamin D or exercise regularly, you're not gonna reach your peak natural T levels.

Just another rant, but the military is really the only way I can see myself escaping living at home. The only problem is, I don't support what the military does. It's a clown world. I wish there was something similar where I didn't have to support an oil company.

>>30131632
>Suffering leads to improvement.
>firm handshake
>you ONLY need to eat a banana for breakfast
these are the types made-up justifications of someone trying to rationalize the outcome of their life but refuses to admit it was just chance.
There's nobody alive who isn't suffering, and most people's suffering only ends in more suffering.

>>30106478
>post online job listing in a major city
>1,000 people click 'apply now'
>maybe 20% are even qualified
>half of the qualified people will even do a phone interview
meh

>>30131750
i understand the frustration. i spent my 20s being mostly unemployed, on the dole or doing short term wagecucking jobs that i hated. It can be a really miserable existence and wagecucking is definitely not fulfilling if you're an intelligent person. best advice i can give you, like i gave another anon in this thread, is to work for yourself. you must have some interests or passions that you could explore. if not, learn how to drive and get a car if you dont already. not saying that will solve things but it will open doors and opportunities. working as a self employed delivery driver for uber eats/just eat/deliveroo was the best job i ever had cause working hours are totally flexible and you're not stuck in the same place all day. that allowed me to invest in crypto and now live a much comfier lifestyle.

>>30120527
It's unironically different this time. We are in the everything bubble, there is nowhere left to shift pressure, once one domino falls the entire thing is going to crumble.

>>30132135
He is partially right though. If no one suffered historically there would have been considerably less pressure to improve on anything.

>>30132101
> I don't support what the military does
Think about what the military can do for you
You dont have to have a front line role, just join the coast guard maybe for a couple of years, push yourself out of your comfort zone and then go to college for free

>>30125668
>telling pajeet scammers on /biz/ to poo in loo
>Foreign policy engagement
kek

>>30132422
HAHAHAHA

>>30131595
What doing?

>>30106478
And this is BEFORE the economy is about to collapse.

I gave up looking for a job in my field years ago when, despite the government and businesses crying for programmers, there were 100 applicants for every job and I was only getting an interview about 10% of the time.

>>30131151
>muh shiny rocks

BTC is the new gold gramps

>>30110086
Based and kekd

Actually not a bad piece of advice. Honestly I dont think I've ever had a reference get called tho.

>>30132101
>I don't support what the military does
what the military does is provide people upward mobility. You don't have to be a tank gunner, you know. The military is just a welfare program. And if it's not your guys with guns bossing around the world, it's somebody else's. I never joined the military, and probably wouldn't even if i were to do my life over again, but this criticism thereof doesn't hold much water I've grown to realize. If you join the military, and get into the officer class, worst case scenario is you're indoctrinated into a homosexual cult, no big deal.

>>30132243
oh there's truth to it, but imo most people already meet that minimum threshold, or can gain perspective by simple reflection, no need for firsthand experience living paycheck to paycheck in the inner-city. Trapping yourself in a cycle of poverty is just a gritty fantasy. If one needs a kick in the ass they should just join the military, I've grown to think.

>>30132828
Yeah there is no excuse to not be learning from others nowadays.

Spent 4 years looking for work with no success. Covid strikes and in july i get my first ever job working at a call center booking tests for people at £10.50 an hour. Its a shit job and i want to kill myself but i've managed to put 80% of every paycheck into crypto and current got about £15k saved with it, after paying my debts

>>30106478
Worked for an external contractor at a big company until the end of last year, when I quit because I had enough cash and it got tiresome. Boss offered me a job on another project right away, starting next week. I know I'm lucky, but feels good. I would have still rather taken a good job for less money though than staying where I was.

>>30106478
Refugees Welcome

>>30109467
kek. we are so fucked

>>30109467
reminder
Jews did this.

>>30106478
Industry worker here, we are on a shortage for manual labor but our office is overrun by studied fags who want a entry job theire. Now people from the office need to do shitty manual labour jobs in our manufactoring process.

>>30106478
walmart is hiring. they obviously don't want to work

I bought mochimo a month ago and its up 1100%, why is it going up so much !??!

>>30131729
>alcohol test
Do companies really do this? As if to catch applicants who literally can't stop drinking for 12 hours?

>>30110647

>>30128672
t. boomer

Construction management. Just do it

>>30106966
Ur the one guy who thinks god is keeping you in your small town. Honestly legendary shit, very literary

>>30110086
based

>>30127274
id be worried if half the government wasn't incompetent diversity hires

There are shit tons of jobs out there, but few people are applying. Been trying to hire a entry level game designer for weeks now and any barely have had any applicants.

>>30134150
how much are you paying, minimum wage?

>>30112731
how can i profit off of this plant without having those technical skills? there has to be a way to start from the bottom and work up there right?

>>30134150

I have two buddies who are into game design, got a proton mail or something? I can have them send their resumes

>>30106478
I'm not gonna lie, I skimmed through most of this thread, very briefly. You guys suck, I get recruiters begging me to leave my comfy permanent job where I make 100k a year doing nothing to go and work in other companies mainly in finance every day. I live in London and jobs are aplenty here faggots

>>30134564
If they are in the seattle and are decent sure I'll take a look. Send resumes to Keklivesinus@protonmail.com

>>30131632
you're a fucking faggot

>>30134150
This by any means the norm and can't be used to blanket the job market. I'm sure it's heavily dependent on industry but in some industries there is absolutely an overabundance of applicants. I'm a mechanical engineer fag who was relocating to California from Ohio and wanted to secure a new job first before quitting my current one. It took me about a year to land a job and sites like LinkedIn that show application statistics showed a number of jobs having between 500 and 1000 applicants within a month of posting. The minimums I'd see would be like 50 applicants. I know a lot of people apply to jobs they don't have any fucking chance of landing but I wouldn't doubt in my case that there were at least 20 qualified candidates applying to each job I was within a few weeks of the posting going up

>>30134722
Kek resume sent

>>30134806
means isn't the norm*

>>30132765
They aren't competing asset classes.

>>30134569
What job?

>>30106888
>>30106929

>>30119095
KEK
I just want to break even and get 2 more btc back (bear market losses).
Also, technically I would have had 10 if I never went to college (wanted to buy, but wanted a "good job" first. Fucking hell).

>>30106478

Based

>>30134806
>within a few weeks of the posting going up
That's your main issue. Apply to newly posted jobs as your main focus, if youre decent you'll get brought into the first round of interviews and at lesst have a shot. I dont doubt your field is oversaturated, but knowing this you gotta be one of the first applicants to posted positions.

>>30125668
Fucking KEK

>>30134969
Tech jobs.

>>30106478
Thousands of people have been chasing a single position for years. It's because that's the only job that doesn't pay complete shit. There is no lack of skilled labor. There is no shortage of whites who are too lazy to do hard work. Nobody wants to work their ass off for peanuts.

For a single facebook facops position (datacenter technician) there are literally thousands of qualified people who apply to each and every one, given a lot of those will be the same people shotgunning it for every tech position.

>>30125668
Based and quasi checked

>>30131518
I got a great liberal arts education with super cheap in-state tuition. Only a moron thinks a college education is worthless.

>>30135344
It's about your timeframe, not about the money. You know you can become a plumber at like 19 and compare that to someone who went to medical school to become a doctor, and the total equity of the doctor will only overtake the plumber when both people are like 45 years old.

Also just thinking about getting married and having kids that gets pushed back the longer you're in academia usually. If you get a long term gf at 27 and live with her for 3 years then break up, you'd be in your 30's and still need to find a woman before even hoping to get married and have kids.

>>30135048
I was only saying that to respond to his comment about applicant shortages. It'll definitely depend on industry and how appealing his offer looks on paper. It's also possible he's not getting applications sent because his posting looks like shit/a joke. I wasn't complaining about my own search taking me a while; you're absolutely right in that you have to apply to new postings fast as fuck or you'll just be buried under a huge fucking pile. In my case I blame the fact that companies know I needed to relocate from 2500 miles away and not having stellar credentials. I also wasn't going batshit crazy applying every day. I probably averaged 5 applications a week. Overall I'm happy I found something in the height during the pandemic while having my non-local status also being a handicap. Another daunting thing for a lot of people right now/especially earlier during all of this was hiring freezes and getting ghosted out of thin air. I had interviews cancelled/postponed that I never heard another word from the recruiter on. Wouldn't doubt some recruiters dealing with my shit got canned mid process due to pandemic job cuts. The job I ended up landing ended up taking something like 6-7 months all in all from my first application to my first day due to various hiring freezes and shit.

Over the past year and a half I have become so disillusioned with the rat race of working for someone else it's unreal. I already disliked it before, but I have reached new levels of utter contempt and hatred.

>>30135344
>I got a great liberal arts education

>>30116891
Programming + hvac? Both are great alone but what a useless combo

>>30130295
Basically I was initially fully set on a PhD before realizing how much of a scam academia was, so I had done three semesters of research that had absolutely nothing to do with data analysis. Despite this, I made up ways in which I used programming in each of the three projects (one I did python pandas, one I did SQL, one I did R) so my resume was looking like I was a data pro because I made it seem like each project was four months of coding. The interviewers know less math than Me so I could easily lie about how data analysis was used in these projects. Keep in mind when I was throwing out apps I literally knew nothing about any of these 3 except they were wanted for jobs. Then, when I got interviews I absolutely grinded whatever language it seemed like they would ask Me about before interviews. I ended up getting two interviews. In the first one I got literally humiliated because the interviewers could absolutely tell I was bsing but I said whatever thick skin gonna pretend it never happened and my second interview they didn't ask me any actual whiteboard or technical questions so I could just retell my fake story about how my research projects were data analysis and they hired me. Ez. Trust me Ik how it feels to think you're a useless math major who knows nothing actually applicable and wish u were in Cs so u had actual skills but I can promise u in a bit you'll back and thank yourself for getting a math degree cus people love it espec for data analysis from what it seems to me.

>>30135719
Take the Skyjack pill. You can use it for painting jobs, Christmas lights, barn repair if you have basic carpentry skills. Its a 60k machine but will make you $100/hr minimum.

>>30135792
>not being able to do both

>>30110086
I'm gonna use this, ngl. I have an o-k Irish accent to pull it off.

>>30132422
LMFAO

>>30116891
>>30135792
>>30135962
>he multi-classed