/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>30108370
write it on multiple papers bro
u cant hack paper

>>30108478
Not sure if you understand the question.

Ive never had my seed online or on any device, its always only ever been done by the trezor (one) hardware wallet one time. The seed is backed up and safe. What im talking about is the passphrase.

The Trezor (One) doesn't let you enter the passphrase via the device, you have to type it into on the computer, which means your passphrase is vulnerable to malware.

The question I am asking is - Does it even matter if my passphrase is vulnerable to malware (because I have to type it in) if my seed is safely never touching the internet or any computer or device other than my trezor ?

>>30108370
It should be fine. An attacker needs both your passphrase and seed words to get to your wallet.
Unless you think someone may target you with a keylogger and steal your seed phrase.

I backup my seed offline, and keep my passphrase in a password manager.

This why I upgraded to trezor T. It's a security hole.

>>30109528
don’t they need the actually hardware? like connected by usb?

>>30109677
They need your passphrase, and either your hardware+pin, or seed phrase you wrote down somewhere.

>>30109740
All they need is the seed phrase and nothing else. All that other shit is just for local access.

Basically, OP is correct - it doesn't matter that your passphrase can be compromised by a keylogger.
The passphrase is just to stop someone who manages to steal your seed phrase. As long as you keep your seed phrase offline, you're pretty safe.

>>30109528
>I backup my seed offline, and keep my passphrase in a password manager.

Thanks for instructions on hacking you bro

>>30109677
The hardware wallet is just a glorified usb stick for the sole purpose of convenience, the only thing you need to access the funds is your seed phrase and pass

What % of "hacked" crypto would you say is actually hacked, versus people losing it to being fished?

>>30108370
nobody is interested in your 250 dollars of chainlink

just buy an automatic rifle and threaten to shoot up a school, that way your hackers know if they take anything innocent people die. despite acting tough, most csfags are extremely guilty for living awful lives and don't want to cause more damage to the world.

>>30109900
Sure, just figure out where my seed phrase is written, steal it, and gain access to my password manager password and file.
Would be easier to just rob me.

>>30110088
LMAO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH IMAGINE BEING THIS NAIVE YOU THINK RUSKI HACKERS GIVE A SHIT ABOUT AMERICANS??? AHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>30109794
No, that's the main point of using a hardware wallet with a passphrase.
The passphrase acts as a 25th word. You need both the passphrase and the seed words to gain access.

The seed words/secret key never leave your hardware wallet. So it's better than a usb stick. You can set it up entirely without entering your seed phrase on a computer.

>>30108370
The point of the passphrase is to have multiple secret wallets. If an attacker has your passphrase they can't do anything malicious with it unless they have your trezor. And if they have your passphrase and your trezor you're probably a high level terrorist or drug kingpin

>>30110264
Well yes, that too.
Though if you're targeted, they probably have an idea how much you own so you're screwed.

More realistically, someone may come across your seed phrase backup (family member, thief, evil maid). The passphrase protects you from that.

>>30110252
He just said he input his seed phrase in the conputer. If someone has your seed phrase, they have your wallet.

>>30110006
Like 1-2% prob lower

>>30110491
Read it again, he has kept his seed phrase offline.
It's his passphrase (25th word) that he entered.