/biz/ - Business & Finance

Already doing this. Market Buy 10k as well so you don't suicide.

>>29930027
How do you make sure the setting is on max?

>>29930443
Buying bat is optional. We can pull this off just by not tipping and turning auto-contribute off. It's going to moon regardless but I would prefer it if biz is the one making money off of it instead of normies.

Imagine not holding any BAT, NGMI

>>29930616
My biggest regret in life was when I was auto tipping while hate watching Destiny by accident. NEVER AGAIN!

>>29930559
Click on the bat logo and go to ad settings, and select max (5 per hour). Also make sure auto-contribute is turned OFF. Do the same on all your devices and your family's devices.

>>29930721
BAT is going to be looked at the same way as fee BTC faucest from back in the day.

>aww man I had made a bunch of BAT from ads in the early days but I tipped it to some YouTube creator

Fuck that. Keep it. The longer we hold this shit the higher it will go. And if some people sell? Who cares, the advertisers buy it and it comes back to us where we just hold it and wait until it reaches a ridiculous fucking price

>>29930027
> reddit has capitulated on bat already.
source ? reddit bat they are pooping themselves over the new road map (as they should be)
100% agree, /biz/ coins should and will be
BTC ETH LINK and NOW BAT
>>29930721
kek
>>29930443
>>29930636
based

400k stack, and buying more, 5k more from coinbase. not stopping

>>29930027
I have been doing this for a long time and I'm up hundreds of bucks, as I accumulate and the price grows I expect this to be much much more one day. I would use Brave anyway even if it didn't have any crypto element to it. It's the best browser at the moment even if you don't do any ads, especially if you don't I suppose.

Brave IS the web 3.0 now. Fuck Google and its shady advert schemes. And fuck the fudders on this board that work for Google and fud it or get paid by Google advert links. FUCK THESE COMPANIES CONSTANTLY SELLING OUR INFO FOR PROFIT

>>29930027
>i earn anywhere from 10-20 bat per month on EACH of my devices.
I'm guessing you have to actually browse a diverse selection of websites to max this right? I'm not really getting 5 ads per hour

>>29931171
I only go on 4chan, youtube, porn, and yahoo, i get about the same per month as that anon.

>>29931171
Your IP address matters, advertisers can choose targeted regions. I get fewer adds when I use my usual VPN country than my real address.

>>29930721
I saw you say this a month ago and still remember it when I enable brave on a new laptop. Silly anon.

>>29931171
i browse practically the same 5 sites over and over. these are my pending earnings for desktop this month, which are a little less than usual but the price did go up a bit. mobile is about the same.

>>29931353
I think I get fewer ads because I use a VPN ordinarily but I have a slight better pay rate.

>>29930027
>turn on max ads and NEVER tip or sell
enjoy your $0.80 a month

>>29930027
Based OP. This is the best BAT-related biz content I've seen so far.
>gun to Brave's head in pic
This is way too good. Thanks for making my day.

heres some more math for you -

brave will most likely hit about 200m users in about 18 months which is about the same time that their DEX and other features will be fully available and integrated into the browser.

at that point there will only be 7.5 BAT AVAILABLE FOR EACH WALLET TO HOLD BEFORE THE ENTIRE SUPPLY IS GONE - and thats not included bat that will be tied up in liquidity providing, other defi projects, the people that are holding in eth wallets, the amount that every exchange needs in order to do market making for it (bat is literally on every exchange), and the other funds (grayscale is launching a BAT trust). and then on top of all that, the advertiser dollars being spent on BAT is growing exponentially!

>brave.com/transparency

its literally the perfect fucking storm.

we can really capitalize on this by not being stupid and tipping or auto-contributing our bat. if everyone on biz turns on max ads and some of us even buy 100 or 1000 bat every month or so we can really start to have a huge stranglehold on the supply before it takes off like we did with LINK.

>>29931688
most people get way more than that, PER DEVICE. and its not about what its worth now - ITS ABOUT WHAT IT WILL BE WORTH IN THE FUTURE. thats the entire point that im getting ad dummy. when the supply crunch happens on this thats when the money is made. you are supposed to get in early so that you can capitalize on it, and its literally FREE to do

>>29931917
I buy 10k bat each month.

>>29931917
Best part is there's literally no risk to bear. No need to shell out fiat or stake a position in your portfolio (unless you want to, but its optional). I started using Brave for its convenience and would use it anyway without the crypto element.

>>29931298
You can choose your region actually

Brandon Eich beat Mosaic w/ Netscape, he beat Internet Explorer w/ Firefox, and he'll fucking do it again & beat Chrome w/ Brave. At the same time, he is going to disrupt the advertising models of Google, Facebook, YouTube, Big Tech, & make them suck his big fat juicy cock (they're going to enjoy it)~ all while, at the same time they're going to introduce a whole brand new *growing* demographic of users to what a decentralized exchange is. We're all about to watch our lil BAT stock do sumthin this year

>>29932525
Agreed. Uncle Ben C. says to invest in people. I could definitely see myself investing in Brendan Eich

>>29932525
These guys are practically handing us fee money (besides the ad earnings)

You only need to understand incredibly basic supply and demand metrics to be able to tell that BAT is going to go up in value by a lot.

The era of limited bat utility with increasing circulating supply is over. It's about to reverse completely and do the opposite.

>>29932625
Have you seen the size of his head? How could you not be bullish

>>29933133
His does have an abnormally large head - gotta store that intelligence somewhere. He might have been a little early to the market with a privacy briwser and the BAT model but he sure as fuck isn't wrong.

>>29933114
where can I buy BAT?

>>29933500
I bought on Coinbase. I believe it's pretty readily available. On Coinbase Pro you have to use either USDC or convert from ETH, but I think Coinbase will let you just use fiat.

>>29930027
>10-20 bat per month
This is a lot of busywork for practically nothing. Is there a way to easily bot Brave ads because I'm sure as shit not going to manually do this.

>>29931067
agreed, Brave on its own is already powerful. But convinced, BAT and Brave can do massive things.

Fuck it just bought 200

>>29933776
Jerk off, get paid

>>29933776
>busywork

you literally just turn on ads and set it to max, which is 5 per hour. they're not very invasive imo but you can lower the setting

>>29933500
Coinbase, binance, kraken, Gemini. Basically any exchange.

>>29933776
It's not busy work you literally do nothing. An ad pops up in the bottom corner and you don't even need to click it.

That 10-20 bat per month can add up to a lot when this thing starts to moon.

I didn't even talk about what's happening with BAT in Japan yet either.

>>29930027
I just installed Brave a couple nights ago after reading a thread on here about it. Where under setting is the option to turn on max ads? I didn't see that.

This is fucking brilliant! We’re gonna rich af and completely control the market. BAT token is the best emerging coin on the market BY FAR.

>>29932099
>>29933892
This is what I'm talking about. If biz can get in on this BEFORE the huge supply crunch and the amount of users really takes off then we can control the supply instead of the fucking normies

>>29934007
hit the BAT icon next to the url on top of a page. hit reward settings. click the three horizontal lines beside "Ads" for ad settings. set maximum number of ads to 5 per hour. also turn OFF auto-contribute.

Have fun taking on a centralized project.

>>29934131
Got it, thanks.
>turn OFF auto-contribute.
I already did that when I initially set it up.

>>29934098
How do I get my BAT off brave?

>>29930027
why the fuck would anyone advertise if its getting expensive?

>>29934189
lol you mean on of the least centralized tokens there is?
Yea they had a bad ico, but they were one of the first, and whales have had 4 years to sell, and if they havent sold by now they have IRON big dick hands, the team literally has only a few million bat left, compare that to link (which I love) who fucking shit out 1 million a week on the market, which stopped link from going $50+
There will never be that problem with bat. future is bright

>>29934098
>then WE can control the supply instead of the FUCKING NORMIES!

cringe. dont be a weird faggot about it. i just think its a great project that addresses market problems and has a lot of room to grow.

>>29930027
ok, how do you write a bot then to maximize this?

How do I earn more BAT while browsing? Any websites that give a lot of BAT?

>>29933985
>It's not busy work you literally do nothing. An ad pops up in the bottom corner and you don't even need to click it.
I had Brave on my phone and I'm certain you have to click those ad notifications to get credit. But you're saying I don't even need to click pic related if I'm on desktop? What if I mute Brave notifications or something?

>>29934377
this is what will keep the price stable. if its undervalued there will be buy pressure (in addition to the passive farming by users browsing) due to the underlying fundamentals. if its overvalued demand will recede. i predict that within the next 3 years BAT will reach a steady flow between $10-$20, and market forces will keep that range relatively stable.

>>29934483
interesting ID

>>29930027
Yea, but why I made only 1 BAT in 3 weeks?

>>29934518
I've never had a notification come up and i some how have 0.80 USD in BAT

>>29934518
I've only been using it for 2 days, I've clicked on no ads and I have made 0.07 cents. That was with only 2 ads per hour

>>29934377
The cost per impression is set to usd, whatever amount of bat needed to pay for the campaign is purchased off the open market. 25,000 campaign price being 1bat=10,000 usd brave markes a purchase of 2.5 bat of an exchange. Brave keeps 30% and 70% goes to users.

>>29934662
And literally I've never seen any ads. Wth is the deal with this thing?

>>29934716
yeah same

>>29930027
this shit is so retarded how did it every get popular with normies

why not just use eth? this shit never needed a native token

>only have a few hundred I could throw at this shitcoin
>even if it mooned to 10 I'd still be in poorfag zone considering inflation and all that shit
>missed bitcoin
>missed eth
>missed link
>only made off with a 3x from gamestop meme

I'm ngmi but fuck it. BAT to 100 would be some shit.

does it even work when you live in eastern yurop shithole? or there will be no ads for this region

>>29934662
It's probably just trying to figure out how to actually advertise to you.

>>29934518
I may need to be checked on this but I believe BAT payment is automatically made to the user when a Brave ad is sent, irrespective of if the user clicks or dismisses it. Clicks are probably noted for more targeted advertising data. Advertisers may agree to pay more or less when a given ad is clicked, I'm not sure about that.

>>29934377
The advertisers pay for their ads in USD, and then brave market buys BAT off an exchange with the USD and the users then get that BAT distributed to them for seeing the ads.

THE ADVERTISERS DO NOT GIVE A FUCK WHAT THE PRICE OF BAT IS, IT DOESNT HAVE AN EFFECT ON THEM

I don't see why this is so hard for people to understand. The ads that from brave have a ridiculously higher engagement rate than any other form of advertising too, which is why the amount of big names using it are increasing drastically

>>29934882
Correct. You don't need to click the ads, you get paid the same regardless of whether you do or do not click them. It doesn't effect the frequency in which you are shown ads by clicking or not clicking them either.

>verify wallet
So this Uphold shit is KYC, right?

And how will Google respond?

>>29935072
Yes but brave is going to allow you to withdraw with self custody wallets soon. It's on their new roadmap. You can just wait to withdraw it until then, at which point it will be worth a lot more.

They're also adding coinbase and Gemini support this year as well

Do I actually have to actively use the browser to get ads or can I just leave it on and minimize it?

Just scrambled and acoomulated 31 BAT. Aigmi bwos???

>>29930027
Bat is quite the comfy hold rn. I just cant stop making money

>watching ads

Lmao it reminds me of those scams I used to sign up for as a kid while trying to et money for games, me and friends would watch ads all day for cents

>>29935304
This lol, I’m gonna do it till I have the minimum to move to my own wallet then turn it off. Just for shit and giggles

>>29931055
>>29930027
don't fuck with the product guys. Also, I'm no Redditor. Been on 4chan since 2007. But at least they do far more for BAT and Brave than this /biz/. /biz/ is equal parts BAT fud and BAT loyalist. They go all in for BAT on there.

>>29935221
You have to browse. You are probably jerking it to porn already, get paid.

wait so the only way to withdraw your bats is to pair it with uphold account??? uh

>>29935288
>0.69
Don't scare me like that, thought this was USD for a sec

>>29935304
>>29935372
>Digital Kool-Aid points

>>29935304
Not a scam. It addresses very real inefficiencies in the online advertising industry.

>>29935398
Yes. Though they are working on removing that. That's part of roadmap 2.0
https://brave.com/bat-roadmap-2-0/

Can I actually transfer this to binance?

Only 1.5% of the total BAT supply is left on exchanges. Do not contribute, do not tip, set 5 ads per hour and we will be at $100 in no time.

>>29935467
and can we take that for granted? because I just cannot make uphold account because of some retarded restrictions

>>29935569
Yeah Uphold (the wallet Brave is stuck with for now) has an option to send to a cryptocurrency address. Just double check to make sure it's the proper type of BAT ERC-20 address and everything.

>>29935087
This is a good question. Eich will have to go to war with Google eventually. I don't think Google will launch their own coin though.

>>29934852
It should just make sure you have ads on max and turn auto contribute off.

>>29935569
Yeah through uphold. Later this year you will be able to do it without that though.

>>29935244
Yes

>>29935304
Then don't do it. Nobody is forcing you. It's not even watching ads. You're going to regret this someday.

>>29935638
Not convert to XRP and send without eth fees?

>>29935620
Oh, well we can for sure expect them to follow through on it. I'm guessing you're unsure if they'll still ask for KYC. In which case, I don't know, I don't think that was discussed.

>>29934846
I remember there was some dude that would post here and state BAT could hit the $80 to $90 range.

>>29934662
Turn ads to max.

>>29935640
Google could certainly copy this system but they sure as shit won't be using the eth network

>>29935680
I think you can send to your bank with minimal fees. Then from your bank you could go to an exchange, then after that to whatever other wallet you have.
But why do all that? I just leave my BAT sitting in my brave uphold wallets. It's not like I need the 80 bucks right now. It's just sitting there growing.

>>29935087
>>29935640
Google's entire business model is based off of collecting data. They would have to change their entire business to compete with BAT and Brave. They can't do anything about it.

Brave is taking users away from both Firefox and Chrome at an increasing rate

>>29934376
Right now uphold is the main option but they're working to change that.

>>29935764
>Brave is taking users away from both Firefox and Chrome at an increasing rate
Good.

>>29935695
I have verified Kraken account where the BAT is listed as well, that would be the perfect option for me.

>>29934846
Buy Cardano and stop crying

>>29935854
how is taking users from Firefox good. it's the only competitor to Google. Brave, Opera, Edge and co all use Chrome's Blink engine and V8 javascript engine. Firefox with Gecko is the only competitor. you'd have to be ignorant of that fact, or indeed a complete retard, to support the hegemony of one big tech company over the web and future web standards.

>>29935764
>Google's entire business model is based off of collecting data
This. Google is on opposite tracks from Brave. Google has an entire infrastructure and even a business front built off of collecting user data and selling it.
If Google were to suddenly say "Yes, we've been collecting your data, but now we're not going to because it doesn't work and we're not making enough money from you!" That'd be a hard 180 degree turn and it would further highlight the nasty ad business that goes on behind the scenes. Which I'm not sure they want.
Yes, they could eventually turn around, but I feel like by the time they do, it'd be a decision caused by the whole scheme being revealed by a third party like Brave. And it would be to Google's detriment, not to their benefit. At least regarding their adsense business.

btw I hope there aren't any pajeet backdoors in that browser, keylogging my passwords and sending them to some brown gentleman

>>29934846
Put your stuff in a crypto compound interest account, then you only need a few 100k to make it.

>>29935872
There you go, yeah. I hold about 5k BAT on kraken alone.

>>29930027
You get like 1 cent an ad.
I've been doing this for 2 months and I've got about $3

>>29935966
if you'll ever need to use selenium or any similar automation framework you'll just wish for gecko to disappear for good, gecko is cancer

im still waiting on an anon to make a bot

Times wasting

>>29935714
this is actually quite feasible. if each user can only hold less than 7.5 BAT in their wallet or less to reach max supply as brave gains traction, on top of increasing ad spending and utility from the DEX, NFT marketplace, BAT tx fees for its built-in wallet (forgot to mention that one) and a lot of other stuff that i couldnt possibly fit into this text - there is a REAL possibility that this could reach numbers that if i said them here would sound absolutely fucking outrageous

and the thing that can make it continue to go up even after you think there is NO FUCKING WAY it could possibly go higher - the advertisers buying campaigns in USD that give zero fucks about what the price of BAT is

this really is a perfect storm. i honestly dont understand anyone that would not even simply turn on ads and make potentially thousands of dollars - or more - for free after the price increases. shit, theres people that have had ads turned on from the beginning and already made over 1000 BAT just from ads. that could legit be worth well over 5 figures in the not-so-distant future.

>>29935966
K

>>29935991
>that piece of shit installs itself into Program Files without even asking
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE is this 1998 or what

>>29935777
checked

>>29936061
make sure you have max ads enabled in settings which is 5 per hour. if you live in the US you should be getting more than that. also turn it on with all of your devices including mobile.

>>29935966
>V8 javascript engine
You know who created javascript in 10 days?
Thats right, Brendan “Big Brain” Eich

>>29936191
pfff 2 pac did his in 7 days

>brave.com/careers/

by the way these guys also have 140 employees and are actively hiring. name one other crypto that has anything like this, with anywhere near BAT's marketcap.

>>29936067
that's a very specific edge case you got there, does that mean google should be given complete control of the web?
>>29936191
>Thats right, Brendan “Big Brain” Eich
never doubted the man's abilities. from a financial standpoint re-using the same engine as everybody else makes sense. from a technological/ideological perspective it is still a step in the wrong direction.

>>29936191
He also hates gays, lockdowns, and fauci incredibly based and brilliant individual

>>29935966
Because fuck Mozilla. The lion eats the fox and becomes stronger.

>>29935991
Although Brave is open-source,
https://github.com/brave/
I do realize that it doesn't mean it's completely secure and bug-proof. For example, we did have the little "Brave Tor Mode leaks your IP address when browsing" fiasco from 1-2 weeks ago. It was since fixed, within 24 hours of it being made public, but yeah no, open source =/= perfect or even completely trustworthy.
We should get some advanced Lead CS anons on the case to audit that code.
BAT code has been audited before though.
https://blog.openzeppelin.com/basic-attention-token-bat-audit/
And although various places like CNET and other tech sites have given Brave the "thumbs up" in terms of privacy, I have yet to see anyone dive deep into the Brave code on any major platforms like YouTube or even on a blogpost. Something to look into.
As a C.S. major I do actually care about these sorts of things and if anyone has any resource to point me to, please do.
It's worth noting that there is a Brave Support Forum
https://community.brave.com/

What a gay thread for a gay coin, quite fitting, actually. You fags keep fagging. Fuck Brave and fuck BAT. Enjoy your chromefork and your ad blocker with ads.

>>29936402
K

>>29936402
bad day in the market anon ?

>>29936402
fudding a coin you get for free. I've seen it all

>>29936279
not that specific, it complicates life of many developers and testers because customers want everything to work in firefox but development for firefox is currently bigger shit than for edge

>>29936402
Pajeet can’t get past Kyc. Enjoy the coming famine.

>>29930027
>i earn anywhere from 10-20 bat per month on EACH of my devices.
what? i've had brave for a year and have 2 BAT...

>>29936517
these people cant be helped. nobody has a real argument against anything said here so they resort to just saying that its "a gay coin."

people that are bullish on bat have done pretty extensive analysis on it while the people that call it gay have not much of substance to say about it. thats always a good sign.

>>29936623
what country do you live in? do you have ads set to max per hour (5) and auto-contribute turned off?

>>29936402
It really seems like you don't understand Brave at all. Give us a well-thought out synopsis fitting for a college master thesis in 10 paragraphs or more and I might take your opinion more seriously.
Until then, here are more resources to help you learn more about Brave and the BAT ecosystem at large:
>Daily/Monthly Active Users on Brave:
https://bravebat.info/brave_browser_active_users
>Future Plans for Brave/Bat, Roadmap 2.0:
https://brave.com/bat-roadmap-2-0/
>Diving into the implications of the Brave DEX:
https://www.techradar.com/sg/news/brave-browser-will-soon-help-you-purchase-crypto-at-the-best-possible-price
>How big companies can advertise on Brave/a useful pamphlet:
https://brave.com/brave-ads/assets/Brave_Buyers_Guide.pdf
>Source Code for Brave on Github:
https://github.com/brave/
>Support Community Forum for Brave
https://community.brave.com/
>Some Youtubers analyzing Brave/BAT in its current state:
https://youtu.be/sfgWpGHrl5A?t=532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50LBlIjlz9o

>>29936700
What countries typically receive the most?

>>29936600
and that's one of the signs that blink's hegemony is an issue. google more or less decide how things should be done, and the way they implement it in chrome/blink is what it should be. not because it's better, but because google, a single commercial entity with its own interests, decided so. Mozilla has to play catch up all the time and implement things in a similar way otherwise their users, like yourself, will complain. that isn't healthy and not dissimilar to the IE6 era. the only difference is that Microsoft had completely given up on IE while Google is able to leverage their position with chrome/Blink to push their own technologies, so Chrome remains in active development.
Edge is a non-issue now since Microsoft switch to Blink themselves last year.

>>29936828
Really cool take. It will definitely be interesting to see if Google can potentially naturally lose power due to not being willing to change and adapt to the new technologies and needs of the people who can now only remember life with technology, ads, etc.

you can make like 500-1000$ worth of BAT by partnering or some shit with brave heres the vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-EEXBc9amQ

>>29937047
a month

>>29936800
First world. USA, Canada, UK, etc. You can also use a USA VPN address while browsing to get more ads

>>29930027
I turned on max ads on windows, bit disabled the actual notifications cos they were annoying as fuck. Obviously I don't tip, is this not just normal kek

>>29930721
Kekd based tiny taking your tips

>>29936800
Go on the brave transparency page and it outlines all the campaign's in all the region's. The USA, Canada aus and what not get the most as you'd expect.

>>29936757
Yeah this -almost- starts to scratch the surface. I think when people start to realize what brave is building here - especially as some of the major features start to roll out this year - there will be a huge amount of increased awareness on BAT and Brave

>>29934376
uphold and it fucking sucks DICK. What a shitty platform holy fuck.

>>29937257
Some people have auto-contribute turned on because they aren't aware of it

This coin is a fucking crabwalker that I used to make fun of but I'll give it a try if the supply shock shoot the price up

>>29937364
Yeah uphold is total dogshit. They're in the process of getting rid of it right now. That thing has been a huge bottleneck for a long time now. Nobody wants to become a creator because of it.

>>29937410
It's crabbed because they have had a referral program going and did a bunch of free ad grants and stuff over the past few years which kept the price from going up. That's all done now.

Now is the time to start taking notice of BAT.

>>29937386
I leave mine on, 60k stack and I want to spread the word.

>>29934518
never had this notification before. BAT sucks

>>29937410
Check the BATBTC charts. It's surprisingly bullish for something as crabby as BAT has been for 3-4 years.
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/BATBTC
>>29937449
Thing is there are already 1M creators. So if what you say is true, I can only imagine that number exploding well over 10M within the year of a Brave wallet being implemented.
>>29937332
I mean I thought I did pretty good, but sure, I imagine there's more to BAT than just my links I guess.

>>29930027
OP, I like the idea, but can you explain why Coinmarketcap shows the Max Supply as unknown?
Seems BAT has not committed to never issuing more tokens.

>>29930027
>Moon mission starts
>Thousands upon millions of users verify their wallets and dump in mass

Nothin personnel autist

>>29930027
is it possible to just leave youtube on autoplay all day and night long for maximum ads?

>>29936828
>Mozilla has to play catch up all the time and implement things in a similar way otherwise their users, like yourself, will complain.
lol nope, it would be enough if they fixed their own fucking bugs, their way of thinking is actually opposite and absolutely retarded
>let's postpone this bug, chrome didn't fix it either haha
>chrome fixes it next month
>firefox keeps it on postponed for next 3 years

>>29935714
I remember that too. He was an asshole

>>29936402
Not my fault both of your dads are bottoms

>>29937554
You need to make sure notifications for brave are turned on in your system settings

>>29937588
The smart contract does not allow for an increase in supply. It's capped at 1.5b and all tokens are circulating. This is stated in the white paper and visible in the contract on etherscan

>>29936070
BAT isn't about pajeet style cheating, anon. Plus the Brave team is installing measures to prevent bots

>>29937619
It doesn't matter because whatever gets sold by people with short attention spans comes right back to the autists that aren't selling it through the ad buy system

>>29937588
What are you smoking? Why would you go to coinmarketcap to get such important information rather than etherscan for the actual erc-20 contract???
FTFY
https://etherscan.io/token/0x0d8775f648430679a709e98d2b0cb6250d2887ef

>>29937386
Yeah pretty unfortunate, I caught onto it quick though tbf. No one in here really mentioning you can turn the ads off on windows and still make money though, pretty sure I'm not making any less

>>29937825
One of the tokens with the most holders too. What else has 400k holders?

I am browsing for half an hour already and still no ad :( I set it to 5 per hour

>>29937836
i didnt know that you could do that. i actually dont mind seeing the ads. its sort of entertaining to see what companies are advertising on brave imo.

>>29936295
You're retarded.
A fox would never find itself among the throes of a lions jaws... Why? They simply would never be in a place to deal with them and never would they intentionally find themselves curious enough to do so.
You're a faggot.
If anons do this it's to dick BRAVE and to dick normie users of BAT and BRAVE to make gains.
All this shit phones home to fed nigger companies anyway

>>29938075
make sure your notifications are turned on for brave in your system settings. youll get them. they also have ads on the new tab pages, you get paid for those as well.

>>29937853
True. LINK holder amount is only about 12% more, but with 10x the market cap as BAT.
Though it's worth noting that many LINK holders (and BAT holders) probably are not listed on etherscan with their own unique addresses so the data may have some unseen skewedness. Objective analysis.

>>29937663
>wanting to be apart of Google at all

BAT is litteraly just a pump and dump.

>>29938196
the amount of bat holders doesnt include all of the people holding bat in their brave wallets either. those dont show up on etherscan until you withdraw it to an external eth address.

there are a lot of bat lost in brave wallets from people that lost their device or reinstalled their OS and never backed up their brave wallets as well. this is a growing number too, much like people that lost BTC in the early days because they were careless and assumed it would never be worth anything anyways

>>29938196
I've been tracking Link holders growth for a while now. I believe around this time last year we were at around 136k unique holder addresses

>>29938164
lol nice, I just refreshed new tab few times and got 4 hits, now I have 0.040 BAT

>>29930027
Yeah that's how I accumulated around 500 since 2020. Not a lot but it's nice.

>>29938386
Also pretty sure their was a glitch for phone users (early 2020) where you didnt have to click ads and you would get paid for it. I got 200 tokens and probably clicked ads 10 times.

it's so comfy browsing knowing you could be making thousands of dollars browsing 4chan and jerking off

>>29938386
that's 250$ just for shit posting??? Imagine not wanting to get paid to shit post.
>tendies are $6.50 a lb at walmart
>you have earned yourself over 38lbs of tendies just by shit posting

>>29938469
You don't need to click them

>>29938373
Yeah it starts to add up quickly. There's no reason not to do it really.

>>29937663
that's of little consequence to the end user. having google make every current and future decision on how the web should function and evolve however, that has huge implications for the end user. I'm not claiming the bugs you are referring to don't exist and make your life miserable. but I think it's a small price to pay if it means we still keep at least one real competitor to google. BAT/Brave isn't helping, at all, since they use the blink engine hereby consolidating google's position

>>29930721
I don't get it. Twitch doesn't have bat ad, can you still tips them?
One of the things that turned me off Brave for now is that the places i browse won't show any ads.
Until 4chan supports it why bother?`Also none of the news outlets in my country does either

>>29934376
Wait wait wait. You can use the wallet brave gives you? How the fuck are rewards separate from the fucking built in crypto wallet?

>>29930027
im on board, just switched browsers, continue making this thread daily and lets take over.

I'm new to Brave and cyrpto in general, so bear with me.

Making money from advertising, Brave gives users a share of it as BAT cyrpto. The amount you "earn" gets deposited to your wallet at the end of the month.

But, until you have 25 BAT, you cannot do anything? Cannot buy, withdraw, etc? Only buy BAT

>>29938791
>You can use the wallet brave gives you?
Right now you have to go through the Uphold wallet but they plan on changing that, it's in Roadmap 2.0
>How the fuck are rewards separate from the fucking built in crypto wallet?
Depends on what you mean. There are BAT rewards and Brave rewards. BAT is awarded to your browser first. You have to claim that by registering your Uphold wallet (for now, until Brave wallet). Once you claim it, that BAT is now tied to your account. It seems that otherwise, if you never register, your BAT is lost forever, or perhaps reclaimed by Brave.
Brave rewards is like a shop set up by Brave.
https://brave.com/brave-rewards/
IIRC, you will probably still need to register with Uphold to access Brave rewards.
Uphold also allows you to send your BAT to exchange. But ofc, you have to go through KYC (for now, this may or may not change, not sure).

>>29938228
>Historically speaking

>>29938560
we need hack to make it more than 5 per hour, this will take ages

>>29930027
A. This is not robbing anyone. This is simply accumulating and holding. Most of us BATbros have been doing just that for years. We buy stacks, we accumulate through Brave Rewards, and we don't sell.

B. You're retarded.

>>29938850
>But, until you have 25 BAT, you cannot do anything? Cannot buy, withdraw, etc? Only buy BAT
Something like that. Seems like the limit is increasing. I thought it was only 5 BAT? Oh well.

>>29938850
so just buy some. Right now 25 BAT is literally like $13

>>29938850
this is true, but once brave releases their native crypto wallet there will be no more 25 BAT withdrawal fee. the withdrawal fee is only because they are using the Uphold exchange to handle withdrawals at the moment, which they are in the process of getting rid of right now.

>>29938991
Good luck "hacking" the Ethereum blockchain and the Brave project's BAT (an ETH token) distribution avenues.

>>29930027
>turn on max ads and NEVER tip or sell.
You are a complete idiot.

>>29930027
I gotta admit, it's nice seeing Brave/BAT threads start to regularly test 200 posts per thread. Though the OP is obviously slightly trolling for sensationalism, it's nice to see people picking up on this gem and having serious discussions about its implications and what the future of online ads may or may not be.

>>29939120
lol I mean something like having more browsers installed or what

>>29931067
>I would use Brave anyway even if it didn't have any crypto element to it. It's the best browser at the moment
Yep, you're a tech-illiterate moron alright.

>>29939039
the price really is negligible at this point. sadly, as always, most people wont want it until its already pumping. there really is no excuse for not at least making money off of the ads though.

>>29933985
You sure are trying desperately hard to scam people, idiot.

Ads are malicious and should never be watched under any circumstance. Ignore this garbage browser and ignore batshit tokens.

Hey everyone! I just finished reading the thread up to this point, and I'm new to using Brave. That said, I'm currently sitting at 73 BAT on Coinbase. Here's hoping that's a decent amount for a beginner. I don't intend to sell, and I'm hoping my use of Brave will further increase my position and pay off!

Thanks for all the helpful tips and tricks in here too!

test

>>29939351
Shut the fuck up dude

>>29939292
Your scam tokens will always be worthless garbage, idiot.
Bat will never take off, adblocking will only get more popular, fucking moron.

>>29939351
yes you caught me

>>29939368
just keep stacking them batties. they will most likely be worth a lot someday.

>>29939439
No, get fucked you worthless moron.
Brave will always be garbage, and ads should never be watched. Every single ad is potentially malicious javascript that can compromise your privacy and security online.

>>29939266
What are: IP addresses. Even if you go the VPN route, ethereum transactions are publicly viewable, and you still need KYC verification to actually cash out crypto pretty much everywhere (including via Uphold and Gemini, the only places you can deposit BAT earnings from the rewards program)... So it's not really possible to pull of a scam like this on any meaningful level. It would get noticed very quickly even if you were able to pull it off for a day or two.

>>29939351
He said you didn't have to click the ads? how is it a scam? this browser gave me 5 dollars for free lmao

>>29939460
>fundamentally does not understand the concept of brave at all

>>29939522
Decent bait.

>>29939539
What makes you think you have to click them to have your security compromised? Letting any kind of ad load at all is putting your security at risk.

>>29939590
No, I'm fully aware it's a scam for idiots, and a desperate effort to get people to watch ads for garbage tokens that are completely useless.

Not to mention, you have to hand over all your personal details if you actually want to withdraw them.

>>29939522
Piss your pants some more im sure it will convince everyone youre right

>>29939539
i think brendan eich touched his peepee at a young age. i cant imagine someone getting this angry about receiving free money with practically zero effort otherwise.

>>29939460
Question for the naysayer from the newbie:

If what you're saying is true, then how come a few years back the price was roughly around 0.1 cent (on average, with occasional spikes), but it's been averaging around 0.50 cents the past month? To me, it seems like it's a steady upward trajectory.

https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html#brave

This browser has made waves thanks to its built-in privacy protections - such as AdBlock, HTTPS everywhere and script blocking - but in the end, they are outclassed by uMatrix. More than that - after checking them out, I can confidently say the Shields are pretty useless - the vast majority of trackers are left alone; in fact, sometimes it seems that a site can have hundreds of them, and yet none of them will be blocked by the Shields. Script blocking option simply blocks JavaScript fully - it's just NoScript revisited. Brave used to be able to install Chrome extensions only from source, but now does it the same as the other Chrome based browsers. Despite those, it not only spies on you (https://web.archive.org/web/20181012155256/https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html)) but is actively working against your privacy by whitelisting Facebook and Twitter trackers. Brave has also been soliciting donations in the name of other people without their consent!

>>29939784
Here: https://web.archive.org/web/20200131173824/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18734999 is a thread discussing the issue. UPDATE: more shady shit from these guys has surfaced. For example, not only do they have sponsored backgrounds (https://brave.com/introducing-sponsored-images-in-brave/)) (recall Mozilla's Directory Tiles?) in their New Tab page but they were also earning big money (https://archive.vn/cAGpe)) from the included affiliate links without telling you (this is illegal and they've locked the convo as expected)! More recently, they were caught rewriting typed web addresses (https://nitter.net/cryptonator1337/status/1269594587716374528)) to add referrals for various partners. Brave Browser also has auto-updates (archive) that cannot be disabled which is extremely malicious (complete with a closed topic, of course - in a Mozilla-esque fashion). The only real reason to use Brave is their so-called Brave Rewards program with which you can earn their Basic Attention Tokens in exchange for watching ads (displayed as system notifications). Here's the catch: to pay out their BATshit tokens, you need an account on Uphold, whose Privacy Policy states this:

"To verify your identity, we collect your name, address, phone, email, and other similar information. We may also require you to provide additional Personal Data for verification purposes, including your date of birth, taxpayer or government identification number, or a copy of your government-issued identification"

Facebook tier surveillance. But wait, it's not over:

"We may obtain information from affiliated and non-affiliated third parties, such as credit bureaus, identity verification services, and other screening services to verify that you are eligible to use our Services, and will associate that information with the information we collected from you."

>>29939784
2 year old tweet from some misinformed boomer is the best you can dig up?

even if you hate Brave and everything about it, this is fucking biz where we set aside our precious little "feelings" in the interest of making money. the growth trend on brave is clearly increasing at a fast pace, and if you dont think BAT is going along for the ride then you are clearly retarded.

you sound like someone that tried to swing your BAT stack and then it went up and now you desperately want it to go down so you can buy back in.

in any case, keep being butthurt and miss out on one of the most obvious fucking moon mission i have ever seen in my life.

>>29939292
true, in classic biz fashion, buy high, sell low

>>29939919
"We may obtain information from affiliated and non-affiliated third parties, such as credit bureaus, identity verification services, and other screening services to verify that you are eligible to use our Services, and will associate that information with the information we collected from you."

They will also stalk you all over the Internet to try to find already existing information. There's still more violations coming, so sit back and watch:

"Uphold uses Veriff to verify your identity by determining whether a selfie you take matches the photo in your government-issued identification. Veriff’s facial recognition technology collects information from your photos that may include biometric data, and when you provide your selfie, you will be asked to agree that Veriff may process biometric data and other data (including special categories of data) from the photos you submit and share it with Uphold. Automated processes may be used to make a verification decision."

As soon as I think I've found the biggest privacy violator possible, the cold hammer of reality strikes that stupid idea right out of my skull. Anyway - again - the only way to pay out BATshit tokens is by using this service. Even then, you can only do it once a month and Brave still swipes 30% (https://archive.vn/EklOu)) of it - You’ll earn 70% of the ad revenue that we receive from advertisers. This is portrayed as a way of revolutionizing the Internet ad industry - the middlemen and platform operators capture most of today’s ad revenue, while creating malware distribution and ad fraud opportunities. Brave Rewards upends this broken system and provides a new way forward for creator support. However, the real revolution will happen when the whole ad business model is dead and buried, or even better - when content creators don't need to worry about "earning a living" because the capitalist monster has been slain or at least put on a leash.

>>29939368
Based!

>>29939988
>some misinformed boomer
This is a laughable coping mechanism if I've ever seen one.

They were caught RED HANDED committing donation fraud, but because you're already invested in the scam, you'll just tell yourself "i-it's some boomer!"

You truly are a complete idiot!

>>29940018
literally nobody is even reading this.

its one thing to miss out on BAT because you didn't know about it or weren't completely informed on it

its an entirely different thing to be THIS aware of what it is and does, and have your bias be this ridiculous that you wont even allow yourself to make money on it. this is just sad at this point.

>>29939522
Can we get some real FUD please?

>>29940079
again, if the 25m+ and growing users dont care, then why the fuck would i care? im going to make money on this whether you sit here and bitch about it or not. i hope for your sake that you are just trolling and you arent ACTUALLY this fucking retarded.

>>29940148
>literally nobody is even reading this.
Sorry idiot, you don't speak for everyone in this board.

This is information available for everyone to read, and no amount of your idiotic delusion is going to cover it up. Brave is a scam, and they're borderline criminals with their rap sheet.

>>29939919
All major browsers insert affiliate referrer data into some things (particularly the built-in search engines). Further, Brave != Uphold, and the rewards program is completely opt in. If you don't opt in to rewards, there are currently zero privacy issues with Brave, and even if you do, the advertising model is far less nefarious than the dominant model.

>>29930027
Can you withdraw your BATs from brave without KYC?

>>29932077
i was getting less than 5 ads per week, in america. plus that browser is slow as fuck, literally cannot compete with even edge in terms of performance. enjoy your 0.80 cents/month while letting the brave devs use your machine (all of them!) to mine

>>29940206
Of course you wouldn't care, you're just one of 25 million retarded NPCs who don't know any better, and don't care if your privacy and security is compromised.

For people with half a brain, they can pick a far better, more secure browser like Ungoogled Chromium: https://chromium.woolyss.com/

>>29940205
You can cry FUD all you like, it won't change the fact that Brave committed donation fraud, requires you to hand over all your personal details to withdraw their scamcoins and ships with third party telemetry on.

>>29940256
>All major browsers
and only idiots use major browsers.

People with functioning brains use Ungoogled Chromium, mitigated Firefox or mitigated Pale Moon. Not spyware garbage like Brave.

https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html#brave
https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html

>>29930027
It's so funny that /biz/ hates Brave when it's confirmed that if you're American an regularly use Brave for over 3+ hours a day, you can easily earn ~$10+ a month for doing LITERALLY NOTHING MORE THAN YOU'RE ALREADY DOING.

For me it just confirms that majority of /biz/ is third worlders and pajeet Indians/Pakies because Brave Ads aren't regularly available in their countries and they earn less, plus they have a difficult time withdrawing/trading BAT due to KYC concerns.

/biz/ is mostly bots and third worlders. Brave is for Americans and BAT is the White Man's crypto. Those are facts at this point.

>>29940454
>BAT is the White Man's crypto
Buying more now

>>29940454
How about actually addressing the arguments you've been given, dumbshit?

Brave is a privacy and security risk, and a borderline criminal organization.

>>29940018
>>29939919
>>29939784
Interesting, but a lot of this is really old FUD. Some of the concerns you rose have already been resolved, such as certain people pretending to be certain large creators like Tom Scott.
The rest... isn't the rest just taking normal ToS terms and blowing them out of proportion? Any company that takes your email and KYC will user your info to "verify your identity" with other "third parties." Main difference is that Brave takes LESS, it only does it to verify that you're a real and unique brave user, and it pays you for it. I can respect a good wall of text but it's all fluff. It was made with the intent to scare but not inform.

>>29940297
runs pretty great for me. they have improved the browser by a lot over the past months/year and there are a lot more ad campaigns. consider giving it another shot at some point.

>>29940334
>you're just one of 25 million retarded NPCs

i will be an NPC all day if it means i make money off of it. im not so blinded by my hatred for brave that i nitpick random tweets from over 2 years ago to keep myself from seeing an incredibly obvious trend in user growth companied with what will be a huge increase in utility for the BAT token.

to each his own though. have fun with ungoogled, and maybe consider buying XRP or something instead?

>>29940588
>i will be an NPC all day
Of course you will, that's part of what makes you a retard.

>>29940454
>Brave is for Americans
>BAT is the White Man's crypto
You can only have one of these

>>29940454
>Brave for over 3+ hours a day, you can easily earn ~$10+ a month for doing LITERALLY NOTHING MORE THAN YOU'RE ALREADY DOING.
Brave makes the captchas on here nightmare tier

>>29940537
>and a borderline criminal organization.

ok now im convinced that you are either trolling or you are WAY deep on the spectrum

>>29940643
really? i never had a problem with them. you can always click on the brave icon by the URL and turn shields off with 1 click for any site that you don't think works properly

>>29940649
Explain how donation fraud isn't a criminal act you fucking delusional idiot.

>>29940537
No. People like you aren't interested in the truth and are disingenuous in your arguments.

Plus I've looked through a few of your schizo posts and you're posting FUD that was proven incorrect and/or fixed literally YEARS ago. Example being the Tom Scott tweets. You're not trying to have a real argument or learn anything; you're going to spam the same retarded schizo shit hoping to get people angry and engage with your bullshit.

Literally put a bullet in your brain, schizo.

>>29940398
Also, me and 3 other anons completely debunked your mysterious neocities blog powered by an unknown person running a tiny github for it. Your articles are worth nothing.

>>29940634
nice art anon

>>29940398
Mitigated Firefox is still a major browser, you seething incel faggot. Personally, I use IceCat, Brave, Firefox, and Vivaldi (I have two PCs running GNU/Linux, and a smartphone).

You can mitigate the risks associated with Chromium-based browsers via ://flags switches BTW, and Brave regularly incorporates patches from UG Chromium too (on top of a bevy of unique features). You're on some kind of crusade though, so you'll keep hysterically fudding, of this I am sure.

>>29940736
>No. People like you aren't interested in the truth and are disingenuous in your arguments.
Pfuaahahahahahaha, how fucking ironic. You refuse to acknowledge even a single link in those posts you colossal fucking idiot.

>Example being the Tom Scott tweets
What about them you moron?

>You're not trying to have a real argument or learn anything
That's literally you dumbshit.
Try actually ADDRESSING the arguments you were given instead of crying schizo like the dumbfuck idiot you are.

>>29940537
Still going beyond $40. You are the angriest anti brave fag ever. You are really mad about that $2,000 donation Brenda made.

>>29939539
>for free
you're being paid a few bucks to have your browsing activity tracked and monetized. that's not free and that definitely isn't sound business advice.

>>29940844
>Mitigated Firefox is still a major browser
What part of "mitigated" is your microscopic brain too stupid to understand?

Mitigated means manually configuring the settings to remove all the spyware. In other words, to remove all the garbage that plagued the vanilla version. Meanwhile Brave has some settings that literally cannot be configured at all, like mandatory autoupdates.

You braindead idiots will do anything to rationalize your garbage scam spyware browser.

>>29940721
Is this the new GRTsux? Make a tripcode so we can laugh at you in every upcoming BAT thread once it starts mooning

Not going to read or quote the literal braindead schizo's posts. What a tranny!

Anyways everyone download and use Brave www.brave.com - free BAT just for browsing the internet. You're a pajeet third worlder if you don't use it.

>>29940895
>Still going beyond $40
That just tells me you're a delusional idiot.

>>29936093
Unbelievably based and hopium pilled
>>29936265
Yea people don't ever mention it. What other coins have teams that big? Like 4.

>>29940634
>>29940838
that is very comfy art

>>29940895
this. silicon valley fags btfo.

there will be no mandatory minimum of LGBTQ on the braves board of directors, thats for sure

>>29940955
>Not going to read or quote the literal braindead schizo's posts. What a tranny!
In other words, you can't, because you realize those arguments expose your scam, and you're scared shitless of addressing it.
Deluded idiots like you will never change, and always look to rationalize your stupidity and your delusions. It doesn't make Brave any less of a garbage token, and any onlookers here are free to draw their own conclusions, all the while seeing morons like you run away with your tail between your legs.

Ok, I've read the thread.

Replied decide whether I, as a Canuck, should buy BAT right now.
Do your magic /biz/

https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html

Brave is self updating software, uses Google as the default search engine, has built-in telemetry, and even has an opt-out rss-like news feed similar to Firefox Pocket. These shouldn't be the things that come to mind if someone were to imagine a privacy oriented browser.

Whitelisting spyware from Facebook and Twitter
On its website, Brave claims that "Brave fights malware and prevents tracking, keeping your information safe and secure. It’s our top priority."[6]. Yet despite this claim, Brave actually disables its tracking protections for Facebook and Twitter's scripts that allow them to track people across the web. Brave has been actively downplaying the role that JavaScript plays when tracking someone.

Just because a website isn't able to store cookies, doesn't mean it can't uniquely identify you. Using JavaScript from Facebook and Twitter would be more than enough to track you and blocking cookies alone isn't going to stop that. Just as a quick point of reference to what information JavaScript can scrape, you might want to visit this website.

They later on added an option to the extension to disable all of the JavaScript, but this new feature seems to be nothing more than the JavaScript switch found in vanilla Chromium. They recently added an option here to block some of the scripts from Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn after receiving pushback as a result of the controversy.

A quick note on the whitelisting trackers: This specific point on whitelisting trackers isn't making the case of Brave being spyware as much as it's making the case of Brave's privacy features being snake oil.

>>29941046
Buy in or you'll want to kys

It's incredible that schizophrenics like the tranny in this thread can get so deeply upset by something that they become a danger to themselves and everyone around them, just at the mention of that specific thing.

This dude has 20+ posts in this thread ranting and raving about Brave and BAT. He has accomplished nothing, in fact he has just drawn more attention to the browser. He hasn't convinced anyone and his arguments are purely emotional. Incredible.

He should post his name + address so we can call the police, before he seriously harms himself! Schizos like him are dangerous.

>>29941046
i think you should do whatever your gut tells you to do. have you used the browser? can you see the possibility of BAT increasing in value in the future? decide yes or no, and then make an informed decision based off of that

Brave now has new feature similar to Firefox Pocket called Brave Today. If you don't know what Firefox Pocket is, it's basically an rss-like news feed that's shown in every blank tab. This feature Brave has is sadly an opt-out rather than an opt-in and sends lots of requests to Brave's servers. It can't seem to be disabled it in and of itself, but setting the tabs to blank seems to stop the requests.

SafeBrowsing:
Brave uses SafeBrowsing. It's a feature that tries to "protect" the user from potentially unsafe websites and extensions. However, it sends requests to fetch the information required. Judging by some of the information in the Miscellaneous requests worth noting section, it wouldn't be too far-fetched of Brave to use Google's SafeBrowsing rather than their own implementation.

>>29941102
>22 posts by this ID

Is there not contradictory information in this thread.. the thesis of some supply shock happening in brave is based on what number 25m 'users' or 350k wallets..

Is it not insane to expect bat user base to 10x in a year?

>>29941149
>s-schizo! t-tranny!
>i-i don't need to address your arguments! y-you're just a schizo and tranny!
Like the braindead idiot you are. No wonder you're stupid enough to fall for a scam.

>>29941046
It's a solid project and it's the only cryptocurrency I use literally every day. Brave browser is consistently growing. BAT's price action seems to have broken a downward trend and is looking promising.

Entirely up to you, DYOR, but I'd recommend it to any /biz/bro besides the weird freak tranny schizo who has been shitting up this thread.

>>29941259
It's also a scam by a company that committed donation fraud!

>>29941226
I'm not sure what you're confused about. It seems you just have no idea what you're reading. Brave users and independent BAT holders are two separate metrics. Where does a 10x increase in a year play into this?

>>29941226
lmao

>>29941226
>https://brave.com/bat-roadmap-2-0/

they state in the new roadmap that their target for the end of this year is 50m, and they have almost always exceeded their targets for growth. i dont believe i said a 10x in users within a year, and if i did thats probably not happening.

the 350k wallets are eth wallets, not including the 10m+ and growing brave wallets that do not show up on etherscan unless you withdraw the BAT from the browser wallet

>>29941046
It is steadily growing, is a great browser, has promising features on the way, and is undervalued and mega pisses of fags like the tranny in this thread. Not to mention the size of Brendan Eich’s head, nearly three stories tall and 2 football fields wide.

Odysee.com is another one to get onto for free accumulation of tokens. They use LBRY tokens to reward creators. It's a yt alternative that is blockchain-based and in its growth stage.

>>29941149
All things considered that anon is likely a BATbro just trying to keep the thread alive. I'm abit thankful, but at the same time, the neocities FUD can only be stretched so far and is an obvious red herring argument. We need stronger, more challenging FUD.
I think BATbros can handle it at this point.

>>29940935
>>29941102
>>29941235
You're responding to most anons without even reading at this point. Clearly I know what mitigation entails in this context. My user.js for Firefox is over 300 lines long, and over a hundred lines long for IceCat (yes, IceCat still needs mitigation to a small degree). Similar goals can be achieved in Brave via chrome://flags, and in other Chromium-based browsers. Again, see: >>29940844 and >>29940256

You don't even understand what you're saying at this point, and are just repeating talking points from some copypasta file you've put together. KYS, niggerbrained faggot.

>>29940955
>>29941149
He's clearly on some kind of mission because he doesn't have any other outlets to release whatever pent up rage and frustration he's feeling.

>>29930027
>WE CONTROL THE SUPPLY
Anon, I...

>>29941323
Why did Brave commit donation fraud?
Why did they shut down people who called them out for it?

>>29941171
We,, good advice to always go with your guts

For me, I download Brave few days ago because I was wanting privacy. But I found out that there is the option to "earn" money from browsing (i am aware that the company is making money off you as well).

I think more people will turn to Brave for privacy and then will try to earn money from it. Because fundamentally humans are greedy and privacy goes out the window when easy money is to be made

>>29941046
You should use the Canadian crypto exchange Newton to save money on fees. It's cheaper than Kraken or Coinbase. Get $25 CAD when you sign up using this link and trade over $100 CAD in volume

https://web.newton.co/r/9O7UI5

>been using tor thinking it was brave
ngmi anons

>>29941402
You still haven't explained why Brave ships with spyware by default and committed donation fraud, idiot.

>>29941294
>>29941453
>spyware
It doesn't ship with spyware unless your definition of spyware is seriously disconnected from reality.

>donation fraud
Seething retard who lost his BAT earnings because he forgot the importance of regular incremental backups. Not going to bother with this moron anymore.

Enjoy copypasting this thread to death.

>>29941453
If you want answers you might want to go back and actually read the thread for the first time.

>>29941562
Except your definition of spyware is anything that tiptoes around Brave's glaring security issues, which naturally include all the botnet they enable by default, like everything listed here:

https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html

Stupid people like you will make any excuse.

>>29941453
alright fine, you have won the argument ok?

brave is a scam, they are criminals etc etc

now that you have won the argument you can fuck off back to buying XRP

>>29941609
You're the idiot who isn't interested in any answers, you just desperately want to rationalize using your spyware garbage.

>>29941046
I just installed it. Got 3 cents in the last hour with not a lot of hassle--I've barely left this thread. It's a pretty sweet deal, if does ever go up in price later. I actually like the browser better than chrome or firefox too, so far.

>>29941632
Nah, I'll stay right here. It's important to let onlookers know that Brave did indeed commit donation fraud, ship with spyware by default, and that delusional NPCs like yourself should not be trusted under any circumstance.

>>29940896
Yes, get shilled to for free like you most likelt already do instead. People becoming more conscious about their data is bad, forget about Brave and BAT

>>29941795
you realize that brave doesnt collect data from you to show you ads right? thats kind of the entire point of it. everything is stored locally on your device, and nothing is sent back to the servers. their code is open source.

>>29941690
Yes, I like the browser as well;
I was using firefox and it was always freezing on me, especially on my email, as I conduct business via email it was very annoying

I am aware as a chrome clone, Brave probably eats a lot of RAM but it has been very stable so far without any freezes

Also switched from utorrent to qbittorrent

>>29941893
>you realize that brave doesnt collect data from you to show you ads right?
No, the ads you enable collect your data, dumbshit. That's even worse.

>>29941740
Everyone should ignore this guy. He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>29941632
Don't capitulate to a schizo. Just ignore them. You can also fight fire with fire.

https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/brave

It's a free and open source browser with features like:
Ad-blocking by default.
Tracker-blocking by default.
Anti-fingerprinting mechanisms to prevent you from being monitored.
Built-in Tor windows.
Run by a based Christian and not furry leftists.
As far as I'm concerned, Brave is indisputably the best general-purpose browser out there. There are other okay browsers, and I'll mention things about Brave I don't like, but Brave is especially good because it comes with all of these sensible features out of the box (you don't have to go install an ad-blocker), so this makes it very good for installing it on your grandma's computer. The anti-fingerprinting abilities are even unique among power-user browsers.

Despite that, there is a loud clique of anti-Brave agitators and Brave skeptics. Whenever I do a video on Brave, I can expect at least 20% dislikes and a torrent of comments from people with anime avatars calling me a "shill" for recommending this browser.

This, I suspect, is because Brave has an optional extra feature: Brave Rewards, which is "too good to be true."

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/02/27/brave-beats-other-browsers-in-privacy-study/

https://www.welivesecurity.com/2020/03/03/brave-top-browser-privacy-study/

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/03/study-ranks-edges-default-privacy-settings-the-lowest-of-all-major-browsers/

"Douglas Leith, professor of computer systems at Trinity University, examined six browsers for his report – Web Browser Privacy: What Do Browsers Say When They Phone Home? He found that Brave’s Chromium-based browser is the least likely to reveal unique identifying information about the computer using it."

>>29941916
> the ads you enable collect your data, dumbshit. That's even worse.
Proof?

>>29941294
My favorite president does this as well so it is probably based

I just realized the reason it has barely been paying out is that I've also had an adblocker on for the past several month.

>>29941911
qbitorrent is far superior to utorrent. i switched about a year or 2 ago as well.

>>29941916
do you even know what you are talking about anymore? its just pathetic at this point. i cant imagine what type of fat sweaty loser could possibly typing these words

>>29941949
>p-please ignore this guy! h-he's giving you information that's bad for me! t-there's no way brave committed donation fraud! i-ignore the glaring evidence
Idiot.

>>29941991
Examine the browser logs yourself when you enable ads. Even better, check it out with Wireshark.

>>29942004
>do you even know what you are talking about anymore?
What is it about my post your tiny brain is struggling to understand? Do you not understand how javascript ads work, you moron?

>>29942098
So you've never seen this for yourself and want me to prove your own argument as a pioneer into the foray of these privacy accusations?

>>29941980
>Run by a based Christian and not furry leftists.
this is actually a key point and becoming increasingly more important as of late. twitter, facebook, google, youtube, etc...all of these platforms are starting to censor people (like the fucking president of the united states...like really?) and who knows what type of data they collect on you and whos hands it could end up in down the road. this is some really dark dystopian stuff.

brave is actually considering coming out with their own services like brave mail and some other things. really cool stuff.

just bought 1k BAT lets go

>>29942192
The proof is literally in the outgoing traffic logs you idiot. Of course I'm not going to provide you my own evidence, you're the one stupid enough to allow javascript ads, not me.

All you have to do is press F12, but alas, you're not interested in seeing anything that conflicts with your delusions.

Ok, last question guys, Canadian here

I've always been vey scared of inputting credit card or ID data on the internet. Yes, to make an Uphold account I had to give my personal information, but no banking info so far.

Should I link my debit card to the app?

How do you guys buy/withdraw?

>>29942216
If the president of the United States is a fatass troll who wont shut the fuck up, he should live up to the same terms of service as anyone else. Who gives a fuck. He didn't say anything about the presidency and just called people who criticized him names all day. He deserved the boot. He was the worst human being imaginable.

Fucking texas was going to go blue and you absolute fucking retards are claiming this man had the election stolen from him. Also furries are cool and if you hate furries, you don't belong on 4chan. Anything weird goes, anything normie doesn't. Donnie was the type of normie that wasnt weird enough to make it. He was ironic, it was funny, but I don't want an ironic internet troll in control of a country during a pandemic. Most americans didn't either.

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/02/27/brave-beats-other-browsers-in-privacy-study/amp/

"Users looking for a privacy-focused browser might want to consider Brave first, according to a study published this week.

Douglas Leith, professor of computer systems at Trinity University, examined six browsers for his report – Web Browser Privacy: What Do Browsers Say When They Phone Home? He found that Brave’s Chromium-based browser is the least likely to reveal unique identifying information about the computer using it.

The study examined six browsers: Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Brave, Edge, and Yandex. It used several tests to deduce whether the browser can track the user’s IP address over time, and whether it leaks details of web page visits. To do this, it looked at the data shared on startup after a fresh install, on a restart, and after both pasting and typing a URL into the address bar. It also explored what the browser did when it was idle.

Even though Mozilla makes a talking point of privacy in Firefox, it was Brave, developed by Mozilla’s founder (and creator of JavaScript) Brendan Eich, that won out. Brave, which has accused Google of privacy violations, is “by far the most private of the browsers studied” when used with its out of the box settings, according to the paper.

The study placed browsers in one of three privacy classes, based on the time span over which they retain identifiers. Brave gets the top class all to itself because it uses what the study calls ‘ephemeral’ identifiers that link a handful of transmissions and then reset. This means it doesn’t remember your identifier across browser restarts.

The paper lumps Safari, Firefox, and Chrome together in the second band. These browsers share some privacy issues, the paper warns, including auto-tagging each browser instance with unique session and browser instance identifiers that can persist..."

Tldr: Brave, OOTB, BTFO other browsers in terms of privacy and security.

>>29942355
Pfahahaha, enjoy getting scammed out of your personal info.

>>29942233
a wise decision. this will be worth a lot someday. and make sure you tell everyone to use the browser and enable ads.

Can someone explain how this is going to work for a noob with a chunk disposable income?

>>29942355
>I've always been vey scared of inputting credit card or ID data on the internet.
In that case, consider sending it to one of your crypto addresses. i.e.: you could probably send to your metamask through uphold via ether address. And you know, Metamask doesn't require any KYC or personal info.

>>29942375
>The study examined six browsers: Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Brave, Edge, and Yandex
Pfuahahahahahahaha, bahahahahahhahahaha, great sample size your shitty website has there, idiot.

>>29942402
>and make sure you tell everyone to use the browser and enable ads.
You're like a deranged member of the Jonestown cult, holy shit.

>>29942375
I was late to Brave because, well, I liked my fucking Chromium and Firefox. I genuinely like it more and fuck Firefox at this point. Ad-ons are crucial but also...what the fuck. Stop looking at my degenerate porn. I only do this so I don't have sex with a stranger because I'm horny and in love.

>>29942369
You have to go back.

>>29942565
Enjoy having your identity compromised.

>>29942420
buy BAT and hold it. download the Brave browser and enable ads. turn off auto-contribute.

the browser is superior to anything else already, and the money from BAT is an extra.

buying BAT isnt a requirement for this to work, you can just earn the free bat from the browser. if you do decide to buy a good chunk though, it will most likely make you rich. i and other anons here have dug extensively into the BAT model and believe it to be a pretty spectacular opportunity at this moment

take this as you will - from an anon autist on a basket weaving enthusiasts forum

>>29942420
This diagram's your best friend.
You can collect BAT through the Browser or you can buy BAT through an exchange like Coinbase or Kraken.
Nutshell: Brave is a browser that blocks ads for you. You can opt-in to receive special Brave ads, which are supposed to be more efficient for advertisers to be able to reach a real human being who also might be interested in their product. They reward users in BAT, giving users 70% of the cost that advertisers paid to get the ad to your eyes. Brave team gets the other 30%, and uses that money to buy BAT, driving up the price.
The BATBTC chart is also looking bullish.
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/BATBTC/

>>29942626
>download the Brave browser and enable ads
Like the brainwashed idiot you are, OP.

You still haven't explained why Brave committed donation fraud.

>>29942626
Based

>>29942626
>the browser is superior to anything else already
Based on what?

What would a tech-illiterate moron like you know about browsers?

>>29942451
>92% of market share
>shitty sample size

>>29942718
i simply use the browser and enjoy my experience with it.

i like the browser

>>29942670
At the end of the day, do you really care what sort of fraud they have committed if it makes you money? If the government has done nothing about it, you should not care.

Welcome to latestage capitalism, enjoy your stay. Complimentary exit bags under your seats.

>>29934716
>>29934714
Pretty sure you have to be actively using the site and not being afk

>>29942565
As I mentioned earlier to the schizo, I use Brave, Firefox, IceCat and Vivaldi across the three internet-enabled personal devices I have. Brave is the default Browser on my LineageOS device, and on my main PC. Firefox is the backup browser on both devices. Vivaldi and IceCat are the browsers on my other PC.

Brave has unique features that keep me coming back to it, just like Vivaldi and Firefox do. Anyone who experiences extreme emotions about a web browser - like the schizo shitting up this thread - is seriously disturbed, and NGMI.

>>29942732
and did you account for the fact that 95%+ of the population are retards like yourself?

Like I've said already, Ungoogled Chromium is a Chromium-based browser, except all the telemetry is removed, and it's as secure and private as you could conceivably get on a Chromium Browser.

Meanwhile garbage like Brave is using the same code, except it wants you to watch ads, which get you barely any batshit tokens, which you have to completely compromise your identity to withdraw. The Brave company has also committed donation fraud in the past.

>>29942839

>>29942355
crypto.com app canadabro

you etransfer money them cash and you can buy as much as you like. Its like a minimum of 30 bucks but it depends on the crypto.
verification on id took me no time at all, address verification takes like 1 day and etransfers take 5 mins.
etransfers costs nothing (for most if not all canadian banks) and theres no fee when you buy crypto using you fiat.

>>29942451
You use neocities as a source nigger.

>>29942808
>At the end of the day, do you really care what sort of fraud they have committed if it makes you money? If the government has done nothing about it, you should not care.
Do you care about making your literal pennies so much that you're prepared to completely compromise your identity online as a result? and have potentially malicious javascript injected into your browser? I know a boomer who used Brave for several months, and I checked his addons on a whim, and there was a third party non-Brave crypto miner I couldn't remove without completely uninstalling the browser, which is probably the result of some malware caused by having ads enabled.

Even if you believe in batshit tokens, you just buy them from an exchange. You don't fucking enable ads in a shitty browser like this braindead cultist OP is desperately pleading you to.

>>29942451
I wanna know your story.
42 posts by you, even the diehards trying their best to not let the thread die wont post this much.
did you get burned from a rival crypto? or just crypto in general?
or maybe brave fucked you over somehow?
or maybe youre just a bored troll I dunno.

>>29942875
Take your meds jesus christ

>>29930027
whats stopping me from running several virtual machines and just browsing on brave or buying a shit ton of used phones and brave farming them? is this profitable? discuss?