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German-Bros, if i buy 5000 Euro worth of Bitcoin, make 1000 Euro Profit und then Trade These 1000 Euro worth of Bitcoin into a different crypto currency, do i have to tax these immidiately? And inform the Finanzamt-Jews right after, or can i wait a year?

>> No.29927355

>>29927306
dude weed lmao

>> No.29927388

>>29927306
Yes, every transaction taxes are always a must.

>> No.29927397

go to bed

>> No.29927420

What the fuck are you doing, gtfo of Germany.

>> No.29927447

>>29927355
what
checked

>> No.29927749

>>29927306
you should leave Germany as fast as possible if you want to make it

>> No.29927764

>>29927306
haltezeit >1jahr frei
freibetrag?
usw...
(((die))) machen es uns echt schwer

>> No.29927777

>>29927306
I don't know about germany but in Austria you have to send your "Einkommenssteuererklärung" in the middle of the next year. If you don't hold for a year, then every gain will be taxed but not immediatly. The gains for this year need to be taxed until the middle of 2022.

You can also use something a crypto tax website like blockpit.io where you can import your transactions and they calculate the taxes for you. It should also work for germany. But you should also see a "Steuerberater" to make sure you do it correctly, also they can help to lower your taxes.

>> No.29927781

Nein Bruder nur wenn du dir para ziehst drückst du ab

>> No.29927802

>>29927306
am Ende des Jahres in die Steuererkläring bei den Kapitalerträgen und fertig

>> No.29927952

Stfu stupid investor cuckcoin
>I will never go for your shit you try to give
no one will trust this dum[
smart buyers chose juld, just check this stat for last year. easy +220%

>> No.29927957

>>29927306
do you have to file tax even if you don't have any income and make < 9000 euro per year by trading crypto?

>> No.29928031

>>29927777
>>29927802
Alle trades?
Krieg ich die Kosten erstattet? 39$ gas fee absetzbar?

>> No.29928204

>>29928031
Ne musst nur den Short Gewinn/Verlust (unter 1 Jahr Haltefrist) eintragen
Am Besten mit ner Website wie Cointrackig machen

>> No.29928316

>>29928031
Does this mean taxes for swig trading too? I just trade from one crypto to another then back.

>> No.29928429

>>29927749
why

>> No.29928514

>>29927355
based and redpilled

>> No.29928545
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29928545

>>29927781
>bruder
>brudi
>was geht brudi
>brudi
>bruder
Kys fagot

>> No.29928622

>>29928316
yes. But seriously, I hope you guys don't trade on an exchange that you are verified with.
>Buy coin on coinbase
>transfer to kraken/binance
>swing trade
>rope

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29928789

>>29927306
You will make 3000E loss du dumme schwulette, und must gar nichts mehr ausweisen. So wie ich

>> No.29928833

>>29928622
I'm fully registered with Binance.....how fucked am I? Is the SEK going to get me?

>> No.29928918

>>29928622
Oh oh

>> No.29928992

>>29928622
Good tip I'm new
dubs prove it

>> No.29929010

>>29928833
probably lol. you better buy zcash/xmr, move that somewhere else, make a new account on binance with a new email, and put that back on binance.

>> No.29929068

>>29929010
although you should clear your browser cache and cookies first, because otherwise, they could probably finger-print you.

>> No.29929128

>>29929010 >>29929068
and never log in to your old account again

>> No.29929140

>>29927777
QUADS CHECKED inscrutable kraut

>> No.29929155

>>29929010
Dude, you're bullshitting me rn, right? R-right...

>> No.29929246

>>29929155
no? That's how I would be doing it if I ever fucked up and swing traded on a platform where I'm verified.

>> No.29929255

>>29928622
what about using metamask and dex exchanges?

should not be difficult to find if I sent something there once, but also a lot of work

>> No.29929347

>>29927306

Ja ja ja ve mussen die schwarzen zu fressen geben jawohl ja ja ja

>> No.29929375

>>29929255
Well, all Ethereum transactions are traceable. Depending on whether they'll put in effort, they can track you with that. Also, enjoy that €200 TX fee on uniswap.

>> No.29929410

>>29927777

Just don't pay taxes you stupid nigger, buy some blocks of gold if you have to

>> No.29929445

>kanaken found out about /biz/

>> No.29929449

>>29929410
Fuck fuck fuck die bullen

>> No.29929452
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29929452

>>29929347
Icke muss wieder JENE tecKNIEk anwenden…

>> No.29929502

>>29929246
But it isn't money until I turn it into money. Crypto isn't "money" here. I'm trading crypto to crypto.

>> No.29929518

>>29929155

Is your government the type that has your wellbeing in mind? Does it respect your time and natural rights? Or does it treat you as a disposable slave?

>> No.29929534

>>29929375
I get really salty whenever something is not on Binance or BSC , gas needs to be fixed

>> No.29929554

>>29929128
be sure to cut off your hands and drop them from a cruise ship when you make your escape and never ever go to sleep or masturbate

>> No.29929720

>>29929502
Crypto to crypto is a taxable event you idiot. If you trade shitcoins 1000 times you have to calculate the gains/losses in fiat on each fucking trade.

>> No.29929887

>>29929720
Dude....I've done 7.71843 BTC worth of swing trading this month alone.

fuck my fucking mother. dude....please tell me you're joking.

>> No.29930008

>>29929720
>>29929452
Might be time to find a way to spend only 179 days in this country. They'll only take the 25% tax they also take on shares, right, not income tax on trading as well?

>> No.29930023

>>29929887
I dont see how they can catch you unless you payout lots of cash

>> No.29930201

>>29930023
I've never payed out. It's was only 2k, and now it's 1k. That's why I do so much swing trading, I'm trying to get my money back...

>> No.29930405

>>29929887
Relax moron. They only catch you if you cash out. When you cash out a huge chunk of cash, normally, your bank reports you to the Finanzamt and the Finazamt asks you where you found this cash

>> No.29930455

>>29929449

hoffentlich hast du keine Pepps mehr dabei..

>> No.29930538

>>29930405
"It was a gift from 0xYZ...4 for being helpful on an anon forum. He's a whale."

>> No.29930558
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29930558

>>29927306
anon do look up if theres something you can buy that you can write off in taxes to balance the tax burden to zero

>> No.29930569

>>29927306
guys sell your bitcoins while you can
things will change for the bad coming days.

>> No.29930705

>>29930569
go away with your FUD

>> No.29930813

>>29930405
You fucker. I've got a friend in AT that can cash out for me for 4% up to 20k euro. I thought thos finanzamt niggers could see what I'm doing on Binance.

>> No.29930936

>>29930813
if they at any point in the future have reason to investigate binance could turn over records, don't fuck yourself over

>> No.29931021

>>29930813
not cheap, but way less than 25%

>> No.29931069

>>29931021
or he could just buy stuff that he can write off in taxes and cover his ass

>> No.29931131

>>29931021
implying i'd ever make 20k chasing shit coins like I do. But you know what they say:
Auch ein blindes Huhn findet mal einen Korn

>> No.29931208
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29931208

Do you have to report if you have no income?

>> No.29931275

dont give a shit. ill never report it. i just flee the country if they ever even try to come afte rme.

>> No.29931295

>>29927306
yes, just consider all your profit like CFD trades you do with forex.

>> No.29931301

>>29931069
Like a new PC for his office, new desk, chair, stuff like that
Definitely smarter to not take huge risks there
But if he's down 1000€ he's not due any taxes anyway, correct?