/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>29860869
Hyperinflation only occurs when there is no longer demand for a currency. It won’t happen in the US because there huge af demand for USD not only in the US, but also in the rest of the world. EVERYTHING is settled in USD. Want to trade oil, stocks, gas?? Need $. Want to use international banking systems and services like VISA, MasterCard, SWIFT?? You need $. Want computers, smartphones, internet services? You need $. The US has such a hegemony worldwide that ANYONE that participated in modern life will have to get that $ to survive.

>>29861416
Dude are you fucking high? This has nothing to do with global economics but local economies. The issue in Weimar was not that no other country used the mark. It was because you needed a wagon of them to buy a loaf of bread. When you have a collapsing economy, the fed must continue to print money to slow down the fall, like a hot-air balloon with a tear in it. As the crack gets bigger, more money is needed to pump into the economy. That is what causes hyperinflation. Not international pressures.

>>29860869
They got rid of the Jew. That's all it took. They took on their own fiscal policies with the sole aim of uplifting their own country. Literally Germany First.

>>29861704
No you dumb nigger. Hyperinflation occurred in Germany because they had no natural resources, industries or services to globally sell that’s why their currency was worth jackshit. The US is too big and EVERYONE, yea EVERYONE needs the services or products the US offers. You want these services and products? Then you need USD. And that’s why there is such a high fucking demand for USD and the USD can get away with printing as much as they want because people will do anything to get it.

>>29861825
basically this
the major blackpill is that there is enough to go round and afford wonderful middle class lifestyles for everyone. But a small minority prevent that out of sheer greed.

>>29861931
So in other words the economy was overvalued, people dumped, and the bank printed to compensate? Gee I wonder what else is happening in the economy. Definitely not the biggest recession since 2008.

>>29861825
this^. jews are parasitic, removing them is like removing a tick from your body.

>>29861416
>we’ve reached the end of history, the post

>>29860869
unironically they just nationalized the bank and based each dollar that was printed off "work" that was made/created.

essentially proving a basic version of MMT early-on; for outside trade they usually just used a barter system.

The federal reserve will more than likely do the same; except by cementing a digital dollar that can be printed infinity without hyper-inflation. How? I'm not sure the exact mechanics; but that seems to be what they want.

>>29861416
Saudi Arabia is looking at alternatives to the USD for reserve currency, and Stephen Harper (former Canadian PM) is recommending Bitcoin for Canadian reserve currency.

If countries start to abandon USD you're SOL

>>29861825
also this

>>29861931

german industry was largely intact after ww1, and quite productive, their issue was debt.

german rearmament was basically financed off the official books, and led to a huge economic boost, but the long term cost was enormous. now, had germany won ww2, this wouldn't have bee an issue, but basically the debt forced them into war...they couldn't finance a huge rearmament, and then sit around doing nothing with it.

>>29861416
20 years the digital yuan will be the reserve currency

>>29861416
>Dude lmao the US is too big to fail

>>29861825
This is all you need, remove the Eternal Jew and your country is guaranteed to flourish.

>>29862177
The point is, that you CANT function as a modern economy without USD. The USD is so ingrained in the international economy that you need USD, and when you need something that thing NEVER loses value. Even countries like Iran, North Korea, Syria, Cuba etc. need USD in order to function. Want to do banking? Need USD. Want internet services in your shithole? Need USD. Need to invest your countries pensions funds in the biggest stock exchanges in the world? Need USD. Need weapons to defend your country? Need USD.

>>29861825
Its crazy to think they were actually the good guys and right.

>>29862378
Holy shit burgerfag seething
Tomorrow EU announces they are reducing their US reserves to 10%
>wait no
They are making deals directly with Saudi arabia for oil
>well time for us to give you some freed-
Russian hack shuts down CIA just like the FED
>wtf do y-
China
REEEEEEEEEEEE WHLFHSOSBSOSB
nigger your world power is crumbling, get the fuck out your bubble

>>29860869
>Pic rel dug themselves out of hyperinflation in only a few years.
Delayed hyperinflation by mass producing arms. The agriculture etc. helped too.
But it was short lived, that's why he went on the offense before he was ready. For loots.

>>29860869

There will never be a new Hitler, at least not in our lifetimes. People back then were 1000x more tough than we can even imagine.

>>29860869
>inb4 politics shits up the thread
Keep that shit in /pol/. This is a purely economic discussion. t. natsoc

Kek
Let the good times roll-pepe.jpg

>>29862378

>What is the euro
>What is the pound

>>29862239
>german industry was largely intact after ww1, and quite productive, their issue was debt.

That’s not the point. Germany had and has no natural sources. Their industry isn’t unique because most of the products they produce can be bought from another country. What does Germany export? Industrial machines, cars, chemical, pharmaceutical any economy can survive without these things. But banking, internet, oil, gas? Good luck surving without those things. And if you want these things you will need USD and because of that there is a huge fucking demand for USD.

>>29862239
Just print more reichsmarks lmao

>>29862504
Yea the US tells SWIFT, VISA, MasterCard, PayPal, WesternUnion to ban all EU countries. What the EU gonna do? Use EU alternative? Oh wait there are none

>>29860869
but the jews have now a golem

>>29862774

The EU can perfectly survive without the US dumbass.

>>29862774
Digital yuan

>>29861825
>They got rid of the Jew. That's all it took. They took on their own fiscal policies with the sole aim of uplifting their own country. Literally Germany First.

>>29861416
>It won’t happen in the US because there huge af demand for USD not only in the US, but also in the rest of the world.
until the US defaults which is possible due to the amount of money being printed by the feds.

>>29862941
Post nose

Aways funny when americans compare their country to interwar germany
You are already so much worse

>>29860869
Pic related. Also they reintroduced silver coins.

>>29861931
>because they had no natural resources
Coal was still very much widely used, and Germany had a sizeable amount of coal. A lot of it was partitioned to other countries, but it was still there.

>>29862774
>Yea the US tells SWIFT, VISA, MasterCard, PayPal, WesternUnion to ban all EU countries.
That's a one way ticket to economic collapse and you know it. No one will ever trust the United States ever again, and those companies will change where they are based or sue the government to hell.
>What the EU gonna do?
Cozy up to China you dumbfuck. America only got to this position because it occupied China's role in the global economy following WW2. It was a supplier. Now America only has agriculture, which China is rapidly looking to replace. The only resource America will have left is oil, which can very easily be supplemented with natural gas and other sources of oil from outside burgerland. Once nuclear becomes a thing and Tesla comes out with its new battery, it is unironically over for oil.
>Use EU alternative?
See above.

>>29862976

>>29861825
gaddafi also had the perfect socialist country that actually worked because they weren't on kikes system but nationalized the banks and had 0% interest rates, on top of citizens getting free electricity, subsidized housing for new couples, etc.

Central Bankers need the oven, jewish or not

>>29862680
dude you're retarded, this isn't how inflation works. Inflation occurs due to the supply and demand of a currency itself, mainly when the currency gets printed out the wazoo and becomes worthless because anyone can get their hands on some. According to your logic the US government could print its entire yearly budget out of thin air and nothing would happen, sadly for you this is a loonie fantasy. Please educate yourself on how money supply economics work and take your meds.

>>29860869
There is absolutely no reason for private banking to exist outside of enabling the looting of the people, btw.
Hitler was absolutely correct.

>>29863288
Checked. There literally was a silver standard.

>>29863288
Very nice jewish disinfo, now post nose

>>29863146
Fuck I miss when /pol/ was like that. The lack of screencaps from recent years really goes to show just how far the board fell.

>>29863542
The sad thing about these shocked face clickbait titles is that they absolutely are very effective at getting NPCs to click the video.

>>29863288
checked and kekked

>>29861416
>The US is too big to fail
lol, you're welcome to keep thinking that.
>>29860869
They didn't necessarily dig themselves out of hyperinflation. They used the hyperinflated currency from their (((central bank))) to pay off their debt and then issued a new nationalized currency based off of an hour of labor towards government infrastructure projects--which is why Germany had an advanced road system before any other country.

It was perhaps just as sustainable as any other fiat currency if managed correctly. However, you'd need to prepare for every country with a (((central bank))) to declare war on you just as they had done to Germany in the 1930s and Ghaddafi in 2011. The (((central bankers))) don't like being deprived of their debt slaves.

>>29861416
Bancor world reserve currency

>>29863288
Absolute brainlet shit.
Why would Germany want a gold standard when it didnt own any gold?
It's like asking to be owned by the kikes who own the gold.

>>29860869
>hyperinflation
watch 5 min from timestamp. there is no hyperinflation. fed is full of shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=483&v=S1qjswZdisM&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=AlhambraInvestments

>>29862680

meh, you could say the same about japan, to an even greater degree, but they were the second largest economy for quite a while.

>>29861416
Wrong wrong wrong. The second shit hits the fan. Every sovereign country is gonna dump their dollar bag and the dollar will loose it’s status and the worlds reserves currency. Most nations are holding dollars for geopolitical calculations rather than economics and that’s shifting too

>>29863941
So what currency does the shadow banking system use again? Oh wait, it uses the dollar.

>>29860869
Well first one has to consider the root cause of hyperinflation and eliminate it. Likely through force because it will not step down unless through force. If you just apply bandaids to the issue, you continue to get what we have today

Nazi Germany did what they had to for eliminating the root problem.

>>29864199
that's not the point, retard

>>29864199
It uses the shekel, keep coping goy

>>29863288
Ron Paul never achieved anything at all and never had to. His kook district enjoyed his harmless grandstanding and let him have a career doing it.

Hitler built a Nation, from economic ruin to towering superpower.

i think the question with the USD is, can it really die before a replacement is selected? if so, that would be very bad for the entire world, although i think in such a situation, they would default to something proven, like gold. if the world has time to pick a successor, then maybe you end up with some kind of global government backed crypto, who knows.

>>29864609
>Hitler built a Nation
destroyed*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht

>>29862141
>that can be printed infinity without hyper-inflation.
probably in a way that prevents people from selling or exchanging them for goods or other currencies. Probably in hand with daily food rations

>>29864690
*built and destroyed

>>29864690
the 30s under hitler were pretty neat. his only mistake was the ostfront clusterfuck. should have continued the anschluss policy in the east same as with austria

>>29864634
The most likely scenario is that they """dont see it coming"""
And they scramble into every store of value they can think of
Likely pms, real estate, and crypto, specifically bitcoin

>>29864690
Destroyed was the state he found it in. Even Americans were openly marveling at his achievements, using words like "miracle" to describe the outcome of his economic policy, right up until the War started.

I realize that Ron Paul simping lolberts struggle to analyze and understand any actual real-world policymaking, given the obsession their favorite idealogues always have with play Marxist-style make believe about how perfect the world would hypothetically be if they just always got their way. But just pretending that the miraculous recovery of the German economy under NatSoc policy didn't happen is a whole different level of retarded.

>>29860869
>Can it be done today?
Welcome to the magic of the MIC
There is a war with China coming.

>>29865125
Austrians are ethnic Germans brainlet.

>>29865265
plenty of those in the east

>>29862378
Major seethe kek

>>29860869
deluded naziboos don’t realize their economy was boosted by protokeynesian QE and as soon as they stopped to rearm everything collapsed economically to the extent the Reichsbank was forced to pillage civilian accounts to remain solvent, inflation and collapse would’ve crushed them had the allies not done it first
>>29864711
the only intelligent person in Hitler’s entire admin, his dismissal was the exact moment when hitler irrevocably doomed Germany

>>29862774
This is the same kinda person that likely posts "HAPPENING!!!!" over small things as if something major is about to happen in less than an hour.

>>29865296
They were minorities in the east, would have never worked as it did with Austria.

How did they do it? They basically liquidated their debt, told the french to fuck off with their reparation payments which is what caused the hyperinflation in the first place and replaced their old currency with a new one...

>>29865181

real estate would have value, but it's not money, it's not fungible and not liquid. no government in the world is going to turn down gold as a source of payment in the case of currency collapse, so that seems like the most likely solution to me.

>>29865572
people didn't like the communist jew and welcomed the troops in many places at first

>>29862399
Checked. Blew my fucking mind after the redpills, or should I say blackpills.
Greatest story never told was so sad desu

>>29864690
honorably tried to destroy Communism before it could take Germany*

>>29862378
>He thinks the USD NEVER loses value
Even the most bluepilled normie investment types concede that the only three certainties in life are death, taxes, and the USD losing value into the future. Some predict less loss and don't think it's a big deal, some predict more loss and anticipate serious ramifications, but all agree that it's decline is a universal absolute.

>>29865702
>no government in the world is going to turn down gold
maybe
but in a crisis scenario, land, farms, and tangible housing IS liquid
Silver, platinum, are just as scarce as gold in a crisis as they have utility
Bitcoin might be a construct but with the USD failing, all it takes is a single country with enough power to acknowledge it, for it to become a renown currency, china already has the miners for it, the EU already has the tech junkies crazy enough to adopt it, it's a coinflip but it's basically the underdog, you bet on it with a small % of your folio and if it works out it pays big, much bigger than the safer solutions above

>>29865716
That's true, but it would have been a different approach is what im implying.

>>29865459
based

>>29861825
pretty much this. the happiness of a country directly lies on how free of the jew it is

>>29866478
>Hitler either kills or persecutes away almost all Jews
>Proceeds to lead Germany to military and economic ruin
>"the happiness of a country directly lies on how free of the jew it is"

>>29866057

land, farms and housing can't be transferred.

Chile can give gold to Iraq for oil, and both sides of the trade will get physical possession.

Chile can't give farmland to Iraq, the land is still in Chile. Chile could give them a claim to farmland, but at any moment they could just erase that claim, and what is Iraq going to do? Nothing.

>>29861825
>>29862021
>>29862369
All this bigotry. You people are sick! Germany flourished when She tolerated people of all backgrounds and only ran into trouble when She began persecuting brilliant Jewish minds like Albert Einstein.

>>29865296
Except that the Volksdeutche in the easy were the minority in small pockets throughout the various nations. Germany had to invade the Soviet Union in anycase. The largest oil deposits in Eurasia were located in the Caucasus. By 1941 Germany had to supply oil to almost all of Continental Europe and even with the coal-oil and Romanian oil was still couldn't come close to meeting demand. Opel truck production was halted at one point because they didn't have enough fuel to test the engines. Without taking the Caucasian oil Germany's economy would have ground to a halt.

>>29860869
>>29861825
>>29862021

>>29866583
no, he simply lost in the fight against international jewry which has infected most the modern world

>>29860869
"The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism" explains that the Nazis were brainlets who destroyed Germany's economy. The Nazis had to start WW2 to try and revive their economy.

>>29867007
Author's name?

>>29861416
foreign finance has dropped their reserves of USD by 10% in the last few years in favor of other currencies. things can come undone very rapidly.

>>29867036
Günter Reimann

>>29867007
>The United States had to start WW2 to try and revive their economy
true

>>29861416
I don't need USD, XRP is the standard.

>>29867007
All of the generous spending that the Nazis did before WW2 was ruining Germany's economy. Germany needed to start a war with Poland and expand eastward to get raw materials to feed its economy and pay off its debt.

>>29867139
>Reimann was born Hans Steinicke in Angermünde (near Berlin), German Empire: the Steinickes were a bourgeois German-Jewish family.[1] Drawn to the left-wing intelligentsia at an early age in Berlin, Reimann associated and worked with Ernst Thälmann, Anna Seghers and Walter Ulbricht at the Romanisches Café. Still a teenager, Reimann assumed the position of economics editor for the communist newspaper, Die Rote Fahne, taking on the pen-name of Günter Reimann.[2]

>>29867036
>>29867139
>>29867036
Günter Reimann was a communist faggot.

Here is a study of the actual workings of business under national socialism. Written in 1939, Reimann discusses the effects of heavy regulation, inflation, price controls, trade interference, national economic planning, and attacks on private property, and what consequences they had for human rights and economic development. This is a subject rarely discussed and for reasons that are discomforting,: as much as the left hated the social and cultural agenda of the Nazis, the economic agenda fit straight into a pattern of statism that had emerged in Europe and the United States, and in this area, the world has not be de-Nazified. This books makes for alarming reading, as one discovers the extent to which the Nazi economic agenda of totalitarian control — without finally abolishing private property — has become the norm. The author is by no means an Austrian but his study provides historical understanding and frightening look at the consequences of state economic management.

Get a free pdf of the book at this link https://mises.org/library/vampire-economy

>>29861825
so germany just made everyone’s debt disappear? what happened after? what did they do with the hyper inflated currency?

>>29867300
>>29867303
Weak ad hominem. Doesn't make the author wrong.

>>29867300
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAAH.
>the Germans were VaMpIrEs
>Hitler HypNoTiZeD Germany
>the Nazis SeDuceD Germany

>>29867334
>Mises spergs literally republishing Communist propaganda as long as it tells a story that they can shoehorn into their autistically simplified MUH STATISM narrative of history
Oh lord I am laughin. This is exactly why lolberts will never, ever be relevant.

>>29867350
Germany screwed itself under the Nazis by racking up debt. National Socialist Germany 6-year budget deficit to revenue, 1933-1939
62.9 percent

>>29866643
>brilliant Jewish minds like Albert Einstein.
he took credit for the work of german mathmaticians like a filthy kike
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_priority_dispute
>Germany flourished when She tolerated people of all backgrounds
no. weimar was hell and so is the present

The ad hoc National Socialist economics meant that the Nazis either had to surrender to the bankers on whom they had declared metaphorical war or engage in material imperialist war to acquire the resources to pay off their rapidly growing debts.

>>29867527
>The Nazis went to war because they were just that committed to paying bankers debt-money
Jesus Christ, anon. You heard a story like that and chose to believe it?

>>29866583
Muh 6 gorillion. This dude is a confirmed kike

>>29867350

they issued a new currency indexed to gold, but not redeemable for gold.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

The Nazi's essentially created a parallel currency for rearmament. These bills were coming due in 1939, which is why Germany was forced to go to war, or they would've gone straight back to high inflation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEFO

>>29861931
>>29863156
you cant do everything with coal alone.
thats why hitler needed to create lebensraum in eastern europe.
if he had broken ussr, it would be over for the rest of the world.
ussr had petrol, wood, grain, food, diamond (later mined in siberia), uranium.

fucking ussr had all the resources but since the jews killed off all the intelligent people ussr has never recovered since and is basically populated by christian serf descendants ever since...

my point is: no country has ever succeeded in everything at once. it is always an imbalanced mess somewhere or at least it is hidden until the mess is glaringly obvious and the whole thing collapses.

>>29867737
It's common knowledge that the Nazis wanted to move east and conquer new territory. Hitler, in his 2 books, admitted that he wanted Germany to conquer new territory in eastern Europe to help Germany obtain all the raw material it needed to become self-sufficient.

>>29867248
Interesting posts hXB7888O, thanks. You might be interested to learn that Hitler didn't innovate this policy of printing enormous quantities of fiat, taking out debts, and then starting wars with Germany's neighbours to pay for its recklessness. Germany did it in WW1 also, Hitler simply copied the same plan and then scapegoated the Jews for WW1 to boot. As Alasdair Macleod says:

"For the paper mark it all started in 1905, when a German economist and leader of the Chartalist movement, Georg Knapp, published a book whose title translated as the State Theory of Money. Thus encouraged, under the direction of Bismarck the Prussian administration financed the military build-up to the war to end all wars by utilising the state’s seigniorage. And when Germany lost, any thoughts of raiding the wealth of the vanquished came to nought. Instead, it was Germany that faced reparations and a post-war crisis. Just as the Fed is responding to the covid crisis today, the answer was to print money. Monetary inflation became the principal source of government finance, just as it is now in America and elsewhere."

>>29867949
i think I read here on pol about some bills that were issued to combat the inflation that were simply backed by natural resources like coal, electricity (kw) etc..
if someone could bring that up with some sauce...

>>29860869
National Socialism is not an ideology of economics or materialism. They managed to set themselves on the right tract after they manhandled the situation into place in a competent and concise manner. Guess what? Democracy is designed to do the exact opposite?

>>29867814
You don't need the Holocaust to prove that Hitler led his country to ruin. Deny the Holocaust all you want. Nobody is even talking about it here. The most respected Holocaust-denial documentaries were made by people who still opposed Hitler and Nazism (denierbud and David Cole).

Basically it'll get bad enough to where a 3rd option/party is created. A party that mimics Nazis in a lot of ways and that party will be flooded with white males. The Republican party will cease to exist and they will pretty much have left leaning moderates left whose only option is to go gigaJew commie or join the new America First party.

That party needs a strong leader, which it will find eventually. That party will overthrow congress and you will see a legal revolution the same way the Nazi party did it.

My favorite part is when fucking retarded liberals think that splitting the right is a good thing. No nigger, youre in danger. This isn't going to be a civil war, this is going to be a knock on the door in the middle of the night. This is going to be around the clock flights recolonizing blacks back to Africa. Jews will get dropped off on Israels doorstep. Porn and usury will be banned. Dual citizenship is banned.

>>29867986
so did the Soviet Union want to move west and conquer more territory. they split Poland with Germany and then invaded Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Romania.
the Soviet Union literally invaded Romania, Germany's only oil supplier.
should he have let Communism win? stop pretending like destroying Communism, a global movement, was a bad thing.
the behemoth in the room was the Soviet Union and shitheads in the UK sided with it. they set up a mutual defense pact with Poland... but ONLY against Germany. if the point was to save Poland then why the fuck would the defense treaty only count in the instance of a German invasion?
if they were afraid of the Soviet Union and didn't want to challenge it, then all the more reason to side with Germany in destroying it...

>>29867334
>This is a subject rarely discussed and for reasons that are discomforting,: as much as the left hated the social and cultural agenda of the Nazis, the economic agenda fit straight into a pattern of statism that had emerged in Europe and the United States, and in this area, the world has not be de-Nazified.

The brilliant Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn makes this point well in his "Leftism, From de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse."

https://cdn.mises.org/Leftism%20From%20de%20Sade%20and%20Marx%20to%20Hitler%20and%20Marcuse_5.pdf

>>29861416
This is the most naive post I've seen all year

>>29868191
oh no, the holocaust happened. it just happened in Japan, where the US firebombed 70 wooden Japanese cities and nuked 300,000 people after putting in to play an 8 point plan specifically designed to bait Japan into an attack.

>>29868349
>durrr statism
you are going to be either steamrolled by states like China or ruled by people with a collective identity. an individual is a sitting duck.

>>29862275
>20 years the digital yuan will be the reserve currency

It won't be the currency and when China's economy implodes it will cause a worldwide depression.

>>29868423
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCollum_memo

>>29868191
>>29868423
There was a Holocaust...in Dresden...

>>29862774
But if the US govt did this wouldn't it essentially confirm China as the new global superpower? Wouldn't it just push countries en mass to adopt crypto or the Yaun?

>>29868596

>>29868251
>inb4 trump says "fuck niggers and jews" at CPAC tommorow for the lols and can say it cause hes not president and is so loaded it doesnt matter what the fuck he does and it causes floridaman race wars

>>29868511
>you are going to be either steamrolled by states like China or ruled by people with a collective identity. an individual is a sitting duck.

And yet America and Britain were the most powerful countries in all recorded history when they were classical liberal states using the gold standard. And then declined as soon the collectivist welfare-state arose in the 20th century. Funny that.

>>29868667
Capitalists have set this up ahead of time. they used out shit democracy to allow millions of manufacturing careers to move to China in the 80s. China is ascendant on purpose, this is not a nation... just an economic zone that has been milked to death. they'll try to start a war with Iran and Russia now that the US empire is expendable, they can go all in with it and destroy it at the same time... they don't want a competitor to China, which is ascendant and which they have aligned themselves with. Israel is a part of the belt-and-road, Israel just sold a port to China, China is building infrastructure in Israel...

>>29861825
If any blacks are reading this, with how fat the eternal jew is nowadays you could easily afford those reparaishuns you have been asking for so much.

>>29867986
to restore what literally was taken from them. hitler gave countless peace offers and pleas to prevent a war. poland was invaded specifically because they were still massacring ethnic germans after years of Germany demanding they stop.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GbCVJE4WssGE/

>>29867377
Ok kike

>>29868852
>classical liberal
>God save the queen
>for King and Country
yeah, just a nation of random international individuals.
England was 99% White at that time too, not your fantasy of some multiracial ghetto.

Doesn't help thar we've got fucking morons begging for handouts from big daddy government. If people were allowed to work, we wouldn't be spending ourselves into oblivion, with politicians tossing us scraps.

>>29868986
You are not making any relevant point. Go back to the kiddie table, the adults are talking.

>>29869240
they definitely don't act in their own self intere-

>>29868992
>England was 99% White at that time too, not your fantasy of some multiracial ghetto.

Now you're shifting the goalposts and shoehorning race into it. What you talked about was collectivism, not race. That's not a discussion that I can be bothered having but if you want an example of a successful multi-racial empire simply look at Rome during the period of the Five Good Emperors.

>>29868191

>>29862275
the yuan is literally pegged to the USD.

>>29869431
were they "classical liberals"?
no, they considered themselves Roman- they maintained a collective identity. HMMM

>>29863941
Seems pretty retarded, he talks about how FDR did shit that we think would cause inflation but it didn't as evidence that inflation isn't real. The difference is that the dollar was pegged to gold still when FDR was president.

>>29869706
So now you're shifting away from race back to collectivism. I showed from Britain's success that liberalism not collectivism is the key to success. Rome was simply to refute your proposition that Britain only succeeded because it was "99% white." Rome fell because it refused to abolish a number of collectivist evils--the welfare-state, bread and circuses, slavery--and also continued to debase its money until there was nothing left.

>>29869431
>successful multi-racial empire simply look at Rome during the period of the Five Good Emperors.
you are full of shit. they didn't have roman citizenship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_citizenship

>>29863288
>source: kike Mises

>>29869910
>I showed from Britain's success that liberalism not collectivism is the key
while i like liberty, you are just cherry picking. i'm sure spanish gold and the new world had something to do with the success of britian, too

>>29869774

no one in u.s. history has done more damage than FDR. everytime i get a paycheck and a huge chunk is removed for insolvent socialist programs, i curse his name.

>>29869910
>collective loyalty to monarchs and British Empire
>had ethnic British identity, rivaled with French and Germans for years
>you will pretend this was only "national identity"
>England was just an international economic zone full of transient individuals who had no ethnic identity

>>29869774
>The difference is that the dollar was pegged to gold still when FDR was president.
what about 2008 and 2011 then. the greater point is that they cannot print money if they cannot define money. nobody knows what the supply is because we can't measure it

>>29865577
Came here to post this.

>>29861416
>>29861931
Someone drank too much of the USA hegemony koolaid.

>>29863014
this

>>29869706
By the way, you're also presuming that I don't support nationalism. I do. What I don't support is nationalism forced on the people from the top down. That's what you have in China or what you did have in Nazi Germany. Nor do I approve of the Romans' persecution of the Christians and Jews for the purpose of forcing on people one identity and one religion.

>>29869986
In the time of the Five Good Emperors it was exceedingly common for Africans and Asians to have Roman citizenship, and there was no concept of race in the modern biological determinist sense. We know of innumerable Africans and Asians who served in high positions of power in the time of the Five Good Emperors. For example, Quintus Lollius Urbicus was a Numidian Berber governor of Britain under Antoninus Pius. From the time of Julius Caesar citizenship was constantly being expanded to more and more provinces. The Edict of Caracalla was actually a final power-grab to get more tax revenue and recruits.

>>29870250

>collective loyalty to monarchs and British Empire

Actually you'll find that not everybody in 19th-century Britain was a monarchist bootlicker. Only the Tories were die-hard monarchists The Romantics, the radicals, many liberals, were categorically opposed to monarchy. Even in Queen Victoria's reign there were anti-monarchists serving in the cabinet.

>England was just an international economic zone full of transient individuals who had no ethnic identity

Never said that. I support authentic nationalism, not forced nationalism imposed on the people by a dictator. You also mischaracterized me in an earlier post as supporting mass immigration.

>>29870560
Worse, a plebbitor

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>>29870599
>Numidian Berber
north africa was not populated by subsaharan niggers. you are misleading

>>29861931
Germany had such a large amount of coal and industry in the Rhine region that France and Belgium invaded Wiemar Germany in order to take payment for the debt they owed because the no longer wanted the German Mark and they could sell the product for more.

>>29870599
>no concept of race
also they were obsessed with race and ethnicity and wrote about racial features of every group they encountered
>in the modern biological determinist sense
no shit. difficult without biology or modern science

>>29862941

>>29870905
I never said that Berbers were black, I said that "Africans and Asians had citizenship in ancient Rome." Why do you insist on mischaracterizing every post I make? It's not a good look. If you want an example however of a pure black who had citizenship look no further than Memnon the adopted son of the consul Herodes Atticus, who served under Hadrian. We have a statue of him which survives and you can't deny that he's a negro.

>>29871233

>also they were obsessed with race and ethnicity and wrote about racial features of every group they encountered
Observing physical differences in appearance doesn't imply that you think that people are predetermined to act in such or such a way by their birth. There was no stigma against mixed marriages in antiquity, and there was no idea that you were "made" bad by foreign blood. The example of the Persians in Herodotus is how the ancients thought about things--that we rise by virtue, and fall by luxury.

>no shit. difficult without biology or modern science

What you mean is the modern demonic atheist concept that we don't have a soul and that our body "makes us" who we are.

EVERYONE CALM DOWN

ITS ALL EXPLAINED IN PIC RELATED

>>29871504
>there was 1 black guy
>the entire empire was on his shoulders
any nation can handle a small % of crap foreigners. America can even handle 13%. White men pay 75% of US taxes.
if the system were 40, 50, or 60% African this shit would sink immediately.

>>29860869
The only reason why the Nazi’s were able to do a 180 was because they stole all the money from the Jews. Without the Jewish money they would of remained poor

>>29871736
con't
also, Rome could've only given citizenship to worthy African individuals.
we don't have that. we have mass immigration with zero vetting.
you have this fantasy that what we have is IQ Nationalism, but really, we just have mass invasion of randoms.

you're actually stupid if this isn't a troll post. It makes me pretty sad that people who believe this stuff actually exist, especially when they're so often the absolute worst and most pathetic that humanity has to offer. On some level, though, it also makes me happy and gives me hope for the future-- people like those who frequent this site are clearly screaming and throwing tantrums about their eroding privilege because they realize it won't last forever. Change is coming, and these losers are going to be left behind due to nothing besides their own willful ignorance. Fuck you

>>29860869
print your own money, don't let private jews do it, this can only be done by genocide they will always come back

Thanks /pol/, very cool.

>>29871854
they created a system of money based on labor, to my knowledge. and printed a lot of money initially as investment in Germany.

>>29871736

>White men pay 75% of US taxes.

White men are also the ones who ran the Democrat party which enslaved the black race with the welfare-state, which used to be highly respectable in the U. S. White men are also the ones who brought about universal suffrage which inevitably leads to the totalitarian communism that we're enduring now. Voting always should have been restricted to a property-qualification.

The speech they dont want you to ever hear.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PByRyA29YrsT/

>>29871906
Their economy was sustained from outside sources that the Germans were stealing from, when the wealth disappeared they had to invade Poland to keep stealing resources to sustain their economic growth. They are a cancer that would of infected the entire world and turned humanity into a slave population of economic units.

>>29871504
>I never said that Berbers were black
you implied it. topic was multi racial society. you are not being intellectually honest. just because rome conquered parts of africa and asia, doesn't mean the people were multi racial. that's like assuming george washington was an american indian
>doesn't imply that you think that people are predetermined to act in such or such a way
it wasn't just physical differences but also behavior and character of races/ethnic groups
>demonic atheist concept
yeah you're a universalist (((christian))) aren't you

>>29871884
>schizo, the post

US will solve their inflation like Brazil did. Basically just create a new currency and start from scratch.
Basically 1 trillion dollars are now 1 neodollar. Rinse and repeat.

>>29871906
>they created a system of money based on labor, to my knowledge. and printed a lot of money initially as investment in Germany.

Yes, and it failed, and it always has failed. It's called Greenbacker-ism. It was tried in America from 1861-1865 and led to 75% consumer-price inflation. The meme about "Prosperty" vs "Ruin" derives from that time. It's also the ideology which is advocated for by people like Ellen Brown, Stephen Goodson, and in documentaries like The Money Masters and Web of Debt. Hitler was in the same state as 1860s America because of his rampant inflation, which is why he was forced to start a war with his neighbours to ransack their wealth.

>>29872272

>you implied it.

No, I didn't. Quote me. I said that "We know of innumerable Africans and Asians who served in high positions of power in the time of the Five Good Emperors." There is no implication there that every African is a black negro. Memnon is only one of dozens of examples I could show you of negroes if your obsession is for me to provide you with negroes, it is well-known that there were many blacks in ancient Rome. Even the white supremacist Arthur Kemp admits this and uses it as his thesis for why Rome fell so I don't know why you're denying it.

>it wasn't just physical differences but also behavior and character of races/ethnic groups

Not in and of itself, nobody thought that if you were a black Roman you were innately predisposed to be either more foolish or more intelligent than anybody else. They observed differences in existing cultures, yes, including white cultures like e. g. the Thracians.

>yeah you're a universalist (((christian))) aren't you

I do not subscribe to a religion, no.

>>29872076
>Democrats did slavery
>Red team. Blue team.
see how Democracy distracts you?

...actually it was wealthy oligarchs who had ZERO ethnic identity- they identified only with wealth, and valued a wealth-based status hierarchy. they weren't White- they were Rich. slavery was a conspiracy of Capital- not an ethnic one.
if they'd been racialists they:
1. never would've brought fucking Africans into our home (nation).
2. would've hired our own people to preform this labor.
these are the same cynical Capitalists whom today intermarry with jews and bring in 40 million Mestizos as a fresh work force.

Universal Suffrage came about because of Democracy- if you look at the history, there was this political party who added women' suffrage to their party program as a ploy to win the election. they didn't even want universal suffrage necessarily, they just wanted to win the election, so they added a popular social movement to their platform.
In National Socialism no women were allowed to lead the nation, explicitly, and with no shoddy Democracy that allows that to be re-engineered.

>>29872238
lol... right

>>29866643
you're living in it. Go live in a black neighborhood or a mexican one to experience real multiculturalism.
I guarantee you're a sad little chud living in a white town with white neighbors complaining

>>29861931
>Hyperinflation occurred in Germany because they had no natural resources, industries or services to globally sell that’s why their currency was worth jackshit
Wrong, it was purposely inflated to avoid the payment of war debts

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>>29872433
greenbacker-ism is not National Socialism. and Germany was great before the war.
sorry that you can't accept that the Soviet Union was aggressive and had to be destroyed- and that the UK was allied with it.
Stalin was working with the UK to get the right to station Communist troops in Poland "to contain German aggression." lol. Hitler split Poland before the USSR could take it all.

>>29866879
jews is oversimplifying it. Its the trillionaire fambly's who only 25% of them are jews, but when kikes want something done like Trannies, lgbt, feminism, etc they make up a solid block of 35-45% of the world elite.

Jewish money is behind the perversions, everyone else rips you off some other way like charging double for the surgery lol

>>29866643
>people of all backgrounds
you mean when it was 99% German and 1% jewish?
and fuck Germany as an economic zone, I couldn't care less. oh great, the "German" international economic zone is "being productive"
living for your people is what is meaningful, unlike this culture of cynical narcissism/hedonism and consumption of cheap Chinese products.

>>29872775
the top 10 richest people in the world are Rothschilds, the zionist jewish banking family that Israel was promised to in the Balfour Declaration.

>>29863591
It's not really needed anymore anon, read YouTube comments, 9gag, any health site. Pols influence is right there.

>>29872433
>Quote me.
what was the point of bringing him up in support of claiming rome was multi racial?
>Memnon is only one of dozens
nobody is claiming 100% purity but it wasn't multi racial, either. it was predominantly mediterranean and they knew that multi racial society is not stable and wrote about it specifically
>innately predisposed
that's not what people think today, either. that's a straw man. you can say that women are statistically weaker than man and acknowledge amanda nunes at the same time. not a contradiction. same with population dynamics

>>29862680
>Industrial machines, cars, chemical, pharmaceutical any economy can survive without these things.

You are a retard. Big time. Like gigantic. I don't even want to explain you, why. Just a hint: Modern agriculture is dead without chemicals. You have a live expectancy of 45 in the US without pharma, without cars you have no mobility and without industrial machines you have no economy, only some bullshit yaddayadda powerpoint slides assholes with ties.

>banking, internet, oil, gas

WRONG. Banking will be done with crypto and AI. Germany has that. Internet? You dont need the US for that. Who tf needs facebook and google? There a great alternatives. And Oil/gas? There is russia. And there are alternative energies, like hydrogen and solar thermics.

Ah just KYS

>>29863542
Look at these absolute fags. I want them all tortured to death in a work camp.

>>29861825
This

Remove the jew

>>29860869
g-d I miss them bros

>>29873469
>g-d
????

>>29873510
Jews write god like that because they are forbidden from writing god somewhere where it could be removed or deleted like on the internet because they see that as desecrating the name of god. Juden are schizos don't question it.

>>29873282
>what was the point of bringing him up in support of claiming rome was multi racial?

It doesn't follow that because ancient North Africans were not black negroes therefore they were white and of the same race with the Romans.

>that's not what people think today, either. that's a straw man. you can say that women are statistically weaker than man and acknowledge amanda nunes at the same time. not a contradiction. same with population dynamics

No, what I say is perfectly just. Determinism is what characterizes the racialist ideology. I'd be happy to admit that Africans are, on average, less intelligent than Europeans. What I don't admit is that that state of affairs is necessarily the case, that the black man is _innately_ inferior. _That's_ the biological determinism of modern racialism. The Roman looked upon the Celt as a savage, but he didn't say that Celtic blood tainted a man or made him more likely to be stupid. And as we see from history, the Northern Europeans after thousands of years of barbarism eventually changed their ways and became the most civilized nations on earth.

>>29872736

If I had lived in the 1940s I'd have advocated for leaving Germany alone and letting the Nazis and communists destroy each other. Even Peter Hitchens believes that WW2 was a mistake. No argument from me there.

>>29874191
more like to save ink

>>29860869
>Can it be done today?
Yes.

>>29870808
it feels like the amount of bots on this board has been increasing a lot since the while $GME fiasco

>>29862141
MMT is fake and gay. It isn't a sustainable system. Hitler was able to bring Germany out of a depression entirely because they kicked the fucking kikes out. International finance.

>>29867377
Just extremely biased. Now fuck off faggot

>>29875065
I agree. The author was extremely based. You Hitler worshippers need to get a clue.

>>29875114
Plus you can't read. Also, thanks for bumping a redpill thread

>>29875114
>claims to have a clue
>can't even read

>>29874342
so what were they? mostly mediterranean with some semites and arabs
>Determinism is what characterizes the racialist ideology
it's not about superiority. example jared taylor. that is a straw man. depending on criteria one or the other could be better. that is not the point. you still love your own children more than your neighbors, regardless of them being superior or not, same with your own people. and there is no good reason for all of us to live on top of each other. a country is supposed to represent a distinct people

>>29874676
I think you mean ZOGbots, people (most americans) conditioned by reddit to hate their white identity. Challenge them and see them stick their head in the sand

>>29875114
>we'll infiltrate them by copying their lingo!
genius.

>>29869431
Just by your nigger faggot jewish cocksucking style of writing I can tell you're a faggot cuck. Get the fuck back on reddit you imbecile. Fuck you and fuck your entire family you fake hand wavey so𝅶y intellectual

>>29875281
yeah this. the point is to recognize human ethnic groups and their rights.
we could be the dumbest people on Earth, we would still have the right to our identity, our family, and a nation that protects, represents, and expresses our collective will.

>>29874342

>North Africans were not black negroes therefore they were white

>stormnigger mutt education

>>29875281
> you still love your own children more than your neighbors, regardless of them being superior or not

And as I've said, I'm against mass immigration. I don't believe in destroying any culture, leave alone my own. Nevertheless I've met many blacks who are utterly indistinguishable from any other English person, as people of many other races. They talk like me, they think like me, they share my culture, and these are also people who are some of the kindest and most intelligent people you will ever meet. So I have no reason to subscribe to the absolutist ideology of biological determinism which does away with the soul and says that our blood "makes us" who we are. Obviously that isn't the case. The Romans knew it, I know it too.

>>29875435
>Just by your nigger faggot jewish cocksucking style of writing I can tell you're a faggot cuck. Get the fuck back on reddit you imbecile. Fuck you and fuck your entire family you fake hand wavey so𝅶y intellectual

>>29875634
lmao. go live in the Arab part of London.
it's ok, you don't value living in a White British culture anyway, and 5% of them have a high IQ and won't attack you.

>>29875634
>They talk like me, they think like me, they share my culture, and these are also people who are some of the kindest and most intelligent people you will ever meet. So I have no reason to subscribe to the absolutist ideology of biological determinism which does away with the soul and says that our blood "makes us" who we are. Obviously that isn't the case. The Romans knew it, I know it too.
I don't have enough time to make a brexit version of this quite yet.

>>29875634
you could literally have ethnic neighborhoods and schools, but then still work together or get together on the weekends. not that I would want to transfer wealth to them, but still, you could have Ethnic Rights AND be friends with people of other races.
don't worry, you'll find out how cool brown people are when you're ruled by brown supremacy and they decide that there is no such thing as rape against a White person and that all White people owe 25% of every paycheck directly to brown people.

>>29860869
>>29861416
https://recision.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/jens-parsson-dying-of-money-24.pdf
this is good so far.

>>29875839
>lmao. go live in the Arab part of London.

No thanks, wouldn't live in a place which has been destroyed by mass immigration.

>you don't value living in a White British culture anyway

Not sure how many times I have to repeat myself that I oppose mass immigration. Enoch Powell also opposed it and yet he categorically denied that he was a racialist and despised the Nazis. You need to understand that there's not one dichotomy between being a genocidal neo-Nazi Joomer and a left-wing communist cuck who wants their country to be invaded and conquered by Muslims.

>>29872238
the wars cost more than they brought in, retard. so how can you finance yourself with losses other than on biz?

>>29872655
war debts had to be paid in gold.

>>29861416
should've mentioned the us military and i would've gotten a bingo

>>29876119
Regardless of what you actually are or what you think you are, you are the same phenotype as an ardent Regan supporter, the same people who rationalized, bluepilled and shat up the US, making it even worse with a deluded and utterly pointless sense of cultural conservatism. The damage was already done by others, but "people" like you finish the job. Honestly shut the fuck up at this point. You have nothing of value to contribute.

>>29876119
>genocidal neo-Nazi
um right. lol bro
all of those brown people that you think are so nice want to bring in all refugees. go ask your super nice black friend, I bet he would not deny them entry.

and so what you want is IQ nationalism. a fucking economic zone. since you're not a racialist, you are ok with the UK or England becoming 5% White or British?

you say you oppose mass immigration, so what? you support SLOWLY becoming a tiny minority ruled by brown supremacy? wow Sargon. such brilliance.

>>29876183
I don't think so. post source.

>>29875634
you just repeat the same shit now
>talk like me, they think like me, they share my culture
not your genes. i bet you would cry like a faggot at the idea of some bug species going extinct and yet when it comes to your own people you are not only fine with it but you welcome it and you think you are morally superior to people who don't share your ethno masochistic fetish.
>absolutist ideology of biological determinism which does away with the soul and says that our blood "makes us" who we are.
it is a pretty big part of who we are. a lot of traits are hereditary
>The Romans knew it, I know it too
read aristotle

>>29862680
They had a lot of coal, which was being turned into oil and Hitler calculated he'd have enough oil for his invasion of Poland by Sept 1939. Then he used Romanian oil and tried to get Baku for it's oil and failed. Shouldn't have fucked with the Soviets they were too big and resource rich.

>>29876330

>all of those brown people that you think are so nice want to bring in all refugees

Not at all. I know plenty of ethnic minorities who are right-wing, voted for Brexit, oppose immigration. As do I know any number of pure-white cucks who support mass immigration and communism.

>>29876394

>not your genes

If your mother's soul was transported into a black woman's body, would you love her any less? I couldn't care less about people's physical appearance, what matters is who they are as a person, what their soul is.

>ethno masochistic fetish.

That's interesting, never knew that Enoch Powell had an "ethno-masochistic fetish." Wish that the people who called him a Nazi in the '60s had appreciated that.

>read aristotle

You're thinking of pseudo-Aristotle, not the real Aristotle. It wasn't the real Aristotle who said that the Greeks were a temperate mean between the northern Europeans and the luxurious southerners.

>>29876366
just google it you mong. france wasnt retarded and knew every sane person would just print what they owed. so they demanded gold. next time before you state some youtube propaganda maybe use your brain beforehand.

>>29876550
>totally dodged my question

also, the 10% of brown people who wouldn't welcome the refugees won't sway things in your favor.

>I want to be LEGALLY and SLOWLY ethnically replaced and ruled by brown supremacy in the English Economic Zone area!

wow...

>>29876550
Take the Duttonpill and unfuck your brain bong. Learn from our mistakes. Brexit won't do shit for you or your goals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7V3_t9FNqM

>>29876747

I have said already that I support Enoch Powell so obviously I'm in favour of voluntary repatriation as well as opposing mass immigration. I have also said that I am completely against socialism and the welfare state and in favour of the gold standard so I don't see how you think that foreigners would out-breed the native population if those conditions were imposed.

>>29876550
you sound like a cuck. of course there are <based> blacks and minorities which vote against their own interests or at least the interest of their people but it doesnt change the fact that the majority of them doesnt. and even if they would: they simply dont belong here. also the majority does what the media tells them so, it was like always like this. that doesnt make white people liberal but just sheep.

>>29876330
That's the crux of it. The negroes at the top of their bell curve, so called 'based black guys' as the ZOGbots will call them may not commit crime but instead will sympathise with their 'people' back in Africa, calling for them to be let in to the west for a better life and whatnot. For that reason their existence in the west SHOULD NOT be endured

>>29876550
>If your mother's soul was transported into a black woman's body, would you love her any less?
that's pretty fucking retarded and race is not about appearance. that's not how genetics work. you think genes control just appearance
>not the real Aristotle
oh yeah the (((real))) aristotle same as the (((real))) lincoln who didn't want to resettle negroes back to africa but surely wanted them to have the same rights as americans

>>29860869
>How did they do it?
They created their own currency which was backed up by German labor. A mark could only be printed if one work's worth or one good's produced worth was done.
>Can it be done today?
We would have to somehow end the absolute death tier grip the banks have over the entire world first which means pissing off entite federal governments across the world.
Its not impossible, just extremely difficult

>>29876971
exactly.
"high IQ black man" will just turn around and say "no person is illegal."
brown people don't give a fuck about your "high IQ economic zone." they will side with their own. the smart blacks side with all of the other blacks. no brown person forgot their ethnic identity.

>>29876943
>you sound like a cuck.

Then Enoch Powell was a cuck, I'm saying nothing different from what he did. In your world-view anybody is probably a cuck who isn't a member of the NF.

>there are <based> blacks and minorities which vote against their own interests

They're not voting against their own interests if they are thoroughly assimilated and no different from any other English person.

>they simply dont belong here

Justify yourself. Why doesn't a black person belong here who is mentally and culturally indistinguishable from any other English person?

>>29876975

>that's pretty fucking retarded and race is not about appearance. that's not how genetics work. you think genes control just appearance

Your ideology has no intellectual foundation or consistency. You say that man is a machine, that our blood makes us who we are. Implicitly therefore you say that we have no free will, that there is no spiritual truth, that life is essentially meaningless. And then you want to appeal to all these higher ideals of nationhood and morality.

>oh yeah the (((real))) aristotle same as the (((real))) lincoln who didn't want to resettle negroes back to africa but surely wanted them to have the same rights as americans

Thanks for confirming again that you just told me to read Aristotle when you never read a page of him yourself.

>>29861931
>Everyone needs it.

Not for long.

>>29872433
is this a pepe vs Wojak meme from the olden days?

>>29877123
>and no different from any other English person.
except that they're brown and side with brown people, yeah. they need to do a poll, I bet that 90% of those "assimilated" brown people would let in the refugee brown people.

>>29877123
>mentally and culturally indistinguishable from any other English person
that's a fantasy. is Hiding In My Room a true Englishman? give me a break. he spent his whole life going to be with his own asian people over in asia.
and brown people will just come up with bullshit like "oh we just have to give them a chance to assimilate" but when they don't they just make up bullshit excuses about how they should be allowed to have sharia-controlled zones and schools.
also, I didn't see any "assimilated brown Englishpeople" defending the statue of Churchill at those rallies.

>>29877123
>culturally indistinguishable
>installs African rap
>listens to African rap
>adopts American African culture

if anything it's you who is now assimilating to BROWN culture. you know how many White guys are wigger who smoke weed, listen to rap, and pretend to be black? it's everywhere.
but yeah man, everyone "became English."

>>29877123
>no intellectual foundation
there is a long history and science to back it up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazi_ideologues
>You say that man is a machine, that our blood makes us who we are
that's not at all the same
>you never read a page of him yourself.
kek. class 11 - 13. go fuck yourself

>>29877227
>they need to do a poll, I bet that 90% of those "assimilated" brown people would let in the refugee brown people.

By definition no, if people are truly assimilated then they won't differ from the native population, and the native population isn't 90% in favour of importing refugees. The reason why we don't have assimilation is because we allowed mass immigration to happen in the first place, facilitated the expansion of the number of foreigners with the welfare state, and then exacerbated differences with the multicultural ideology. Nevertheless that's no reason for me to treat a truly assimilated foreigner as being any different from any other English person.

>>29877348
I don't see anybody defending those statues, English people are cucks nowadays. If they weren't cucks then people would already have stormed parliament instead of letting the Great Reset by imposed on us.

>>29877123
so powell was a cuck.
they dont belong here because your ancestors murdered and were murdered to conquer this land you are living on. they fought over millennia a never ending struggle so its your fucking god given duty to not pass this land to other races without a fight. free yourself from your unnatural worldview

>>29877452
you can watch the videos from when antifa was trying to tear down statues of Churchill.
turns out that the antifa was heavily brown!
and I didn't see a single "brown assimilated Englishman" counter-protesting to protect Churchill's statue.
hmmmmmmm

>>29877112
>no brown person forgot their ethnic identity.
Remember this

>>29877452
>facilitated the expansion of the number of foreigners with the welfare state
lol I'm sure it had nothing to do with jewish lobbying, cultural construction of England as a "nation of immigrants," and jews/capitalists changing immigration law to their benefit.

>>29861825
this! dont forget natsoc was literally an indigineous peoples movement too but okay.....

>>29861416
holy mother of cope. China is moving in as we speak on oil exporting countries in africa and the middle east, with the most recent east asian trade pact excluding the U.S. Just because something is happening rn doesnt mean its set in stone retard. The moment Petrodollar hegemony is challenged its gonna fall apart cuz its built on such flimsy fucking foundations.

>>29877569
who cares about churchill? he was a traitor. without him the people which fucked his statue wouldnt even be in england to begin with

>>29877466
>so powell was a cuck.

No no no, you can't just say that Powell was a cuck. Now you need to add basically every other English person who ever lived. Tolkien for example was against the Nazis and had no racial prejudice. You pretty much have to tear up our culture root-and-branch once you adopt the neo-Nazi ideology. The materialist, biological-determinist philosophy is an alien import into this land.

>your ancestors murdered and were murdered to conquer this land you are living on

The Romans murdered and were murdered to expand their Empire and yet they had no racial prejudice as we have discussed before. So the sentiments which you have adopted are not ancient, that's for certain.

>>29877649

>lol I'm sure it had nothing to do with jewish lobbying, cultural construction of England as a "nation of immigrants,"

Complete rubbish. 99% of our parliament has always been native British, 99% of our academics are British. We did this to ourselves. Accept responsibility for your own actions and for your own people's actions instead of succumbing to being a weak-minded Joomer.

>>29877727
I know, dude. I was making a point. I wasn't defending Churchill.

>>29877782
hahaha. ok Sargon. you are literally too low IQ to understand what is happening to you. your parliament is made up of cynical prostitutes and careerists whom sell out instantly to Capital and Jewish power/influence.

>>29877782
you actually believe that Democracy represents you. it's a huge sham. and every time you vote for something you get the opposite.
yeah bro, Brexit was about bringing in brown people from the commonwealth.... not stopping brown immigration. right? c'mon, man..

>>29877782
>no no no
i dont give a fuck. they were cucks. i dont need no posh elitists to tell me what is right and what is not. also i am talking about pre civilization times. nazi ideology was basicly stoneage racislism adapted into modern times. tribe->nation+socialism. smash all class differences and your new enemy is the people threatening your freedom and living space.

>>29877805
good, mate. just wanted to be clear. while these people defending churchill are in theory far less cucked than antifa they are still slaves of mind.

Cock Vore thread

>>29877782
>Accept responsibility for your own actions
I do. nice fantasy, though. that's just your way of dismissing me.
>and for your own people's actions
traitors aren't my people.

>>29878216
I wasn't going to read the rest of the thread after what I posted until I saw your shill post. Thanks to this, I'm reading the whole thing!
Thanks, faggot!

>>29877782
>Tolkien for example was against the Nazis and had no racial prejudice
yeah sure. quote a passage where a dwarf fucked an elf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolkien_and_race
>You pretty much have to tear up our culture root-and-branch once you adopt the neo-Nazi ideology
the only reason you were against the nazis is because of US kike propaganda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-German_sentiment

Onions

>>29878216
>>29878270
Jesus fucking christ what is wrong with tripfags? Why are they always such faggots?

>>29877782
muh gamergate

>>29860869
I can kick hitlers ass in a fist fight. He was a pussy faggot.

>>29878347
Its a trait of a certain group to always belittle or pervert subjects they dont like. then they call themself comedians or artists.

>>29877782
ancient meds weren't Muslim. Islam has been proven to lower IQ. Ed Dutton showed that most semites/arabs would have an average IQ of ~95 without Islam. so it would make sense that the Romans couldn't tell much of a difference.
also Carthaginians were a different people than who is there today.
further, racial science/anthropology wasn't even developed until the late 1800's/early 20th century. it's very modern.

>>29877862

The people in parliament are elected by the English people. If every single MP we have is so weak-minded that he "sells out" to this nebulous cabal of Jews for which you have no evidence then we are quite as responsible for our own demise as if there had been no Jews at all. The white race is also the most contemptible object alive if it can be manipulated into vice so easily. Truth is that nobody can make you bad, and that you are responsible for your own actions. Making yourself and your people good isn't a matter of waving a magic wand and having the Jews go away and then everything be perfect, it takes hard work and effort and will.

If you have the slightest bit of belief in God or Providence or any higher spiritual justice, ask yourself why, when a nation-state did EXACTLY what you want (Nazi Germany), when it fulfilled your moral requirements to the precise letter, it was subsequently punished in the most brutal and exacting way. Ask yourself why God was Hitler's enemy if he was righteous.

>>29877979

>you actually believe that Democracy represents you

I oppose universal suffrage, as I said in an earlier post. I'd return us to having a property qualification or some other kind of qualification in order to have a vote.

>>29878044

Nazism isn't the same as stone-age times. It's a 20th-century contrivance, a product of atheism, of biological determinism. Even a stone-age brute didn't think that if he bred with a woman of a foreign tribe, his sons would have inferior blood. He believed in the soul, he never proceeded to such a foolish notion as that our body makes us who we are. Tribalism is not the same thing as racialism. Racialism is a modern disease.

>>29862378
I heard from a traveler that USD is no longer widely used as black market currency in Europe. Euros have taken that over.
Euro seems instable to me especially with the UK exit. Other countries I imagine are remembering what it was like to have sovereignty..

>>29878385
no one will remember your name.

>>29862399
right, you need to be crazy to think that

>>29878489
universal suffrage isn't the damn issue. the issue is that your 'leaders" in parliament are cynical careerists who do whatever powerful lobby groups want them to do.
you realize that there are lobby groups... right? and powerful jewish organizations that will ruthlessly slander/sue anyone who goes against their will.
these politicians know what game they're playing. of course they're not going to rock the boat.
sorry but you are not lead by national heroes, just careerists playing a game for money.

>>29878489
cool that you can channel yourself in the mind of some stoneage brute. also nazism has nothing to do with atheism. just because its antichristian its not anti spiritual. just stop talking out of your ass.
also tolkin was a racialist or how do you explain elves, humans, orcs, halforcs, southlings and eastlings, with orcs not to get taken prisoners. start to think

>>29878639

The truth is far more horrible than you'd like to believe, far more horrible than the Jews you postulate. Truth is that the people in parliament are simply a reflection of the English people themselves. The people want socialism, they want to be selfish, so they elect people to pander to their wants. It's the panem et circenses of the Romans. Everything that you see in society today is nothing more than the inevitable consequence of universal suffrage. You idealize your people as if they would be perfect without the presence of Jews but the truth is that they are responsible for the society in which we are living. As I have said, _we_ did this to ourselves. Virtue is in the minority, not the majority, nor in any racial group or nation.

>>29878489
>Jews go away and then everything be perfect
straw man. if you cure cancer, you don't have a utopia, you just solve one big problem
>If you have the slightest bit of belief in God or Providence or any higher spiritual justice, ask yourself why, when a nation-state did EXACTLY what you want (Nazi Germany), when it fulfilled your moral requirements to the precise letter, it was subsequently punished in the most brutal and exacting way. Ask yourself why God was Hitler's enemy if he was righteous.
you say you aren't christian yet you argue like a faggot christian
>He believed in the soul, he never proceeded to such a foolish notion as that our body makes us who we are.
you just make up shit as you go along, huh

>>29878489
>a product of atheism, of biological determinism
state your religion rather than playing games with us. should've just admitted that earlier.
and, as we've stated, just because a brown person is high IQ doesn't mean they give a fuck about securing your future. and, as we've stated, 90% of them will support bringing in refugees.
they aren't on your team. and England's only culture now is "international multiculture" everyone there listens to fucking rap and smokes weed,
but you will dodge this point again.
National Socialism was amazing, you're just threatened by it because you're a Muslim or Christian and want to see God as the ultimate authority figure.
with National Socialism you can, you know, achieve more as a synergistic group. but enjoy your "individualism" where only White men live as individuals and everyone else has a fucking ethnic gang or feminism or 1000 jewish organizations in every city.
no brown person give a fuck about you.
and not a single one showed up to protect that statue of Churchill.
you're just a Christcuck, admit it.

>>29867248
I weep for the future. Does this seem in any way logical?

>>29878817
bahahaha. yeah man, England is totally under White racial control.
you are very lost, very ignorant, or very stupid.

>>29878817
>durr virtue
brown people came to England to make money. and they all support BLM just so you know. they don't give a fuck about White people or England.

>>29878785
>also tolkin was a racialist or how do you explain elves, humans, orcs, halforcs, southlings and eastlings, with orcs not to get taken prisoners. start to think
Orcs are corrupted elves and basically slaves of Sauron with no or little free will. The foreigners of the south are humanized by Sam in one famous passage of which I am sure you are aware. The Black Númenóreans intermarried with the people of Harad who were certainly not white, and Tolkien expresses no disapproval of this. Tolkien also expressly wrote against the Nazi racial theory, and mocked a German publisher who asked him whether he had any Jewish ancestry. He expressed his admiration for the Jews in that letter.

>>29864139
right. as long as the USA keeps bombing countries who don't succumb to (((economic hitmen))), the USD will be "valulable", in a "friends of the mafia" kind of way.
>>29864199
see
>>29878493
>>29873184
the influence is spreading. this is one of the best threads on /biz/ lately.. thanks bros.
>>29868423
redpill me on the 8 point plan. never heard of it.
>>29868251
you get my hopes up.
>>29871861
and now states are zergrushing other states
https://abc11.com/ny-post-homeless-busing-families/5718453/

>>29879116
>I wonder what he has done? Are they Men he has ruined, or has he blended the races of Orcs and Men? That would be a black evil!

>>29878912
>state your religion rather than playing games with us. should've just admitted that earlier.

I already stated that I have no religion. I believe in God and the soul, just like the ancients. I am opposed to materialism.

>90% of them will support bringing in refugees.

Because of the reasons which I outlined before.

>"By definition no, if people are truly assimilated then they won't differ from the native population, and the native population isn't 90% in favour of importing refugees. The reason why we don't have assimilation is because we allowed mass immigration to happen in the first place, facilitated the expansion of the number of foreigners with the welfare state, and then exacerbated differences with the multicultural ideology. Nevertheless that's no reason for me to treat a truly assimilated foreigner as being any different from any other English person." >>29877452

>England's only culture now is "international multiculture" everyone there listens to fucking rap and smokes weed

If you read Thomas Sowell you'll realise that the so-called "nigger culture" which you despise actually comes from the Irish and the Scottish, not from blacks themselves. The gang-culture included. The book is called "Black Rednecks and White Liberals," highly recommend it. That black American culture has then been reimported into England from America and adopted both by our own blacks and our lower-class whites.

>with National Socialism you can, you know, achieve more as a synergistic group

Nazism is an utter failure. The NF and the BNP accomplished nothing. It would have been better for you had they never existed. All they served to do was to destroy any legitimate opposition to left-wing ideology and mass immigration.

>>29878817
Capitalists do not represent White people. in fact, most of them cyncially intermarry with ethinic jews just to gain more wealth, influence, and power. a Capitalist is a traitor at best.

>>29878493
Large if factual. Gonna need a sauce on that one.

>>29873184
Absolutely. I've been trying to tell anons about iFunny for a year now and they still don't believe me. Shit, there's a fucking Roblox natsoc group with about 600 members. I have screenshots of some of the raids they did on my other PC that I would love to post but am unable to ATM. I never thought I would see George Lincoln Rockwell talk about traps with the Shiet meme as three klansman are AFK in the background on fucking Roblox.

>>29861416
>>29860869

excited for the second coming of hitler, the based US hitler and i wait to serve this man or woman

>>29879308
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCollum_memo
>>29879352
no brown person gives a fuck about assimilating. they are there for money, to fuck White women, and maybe install islam or brown supremacy over you.
>if you would real brown man's book
lol ok. the irish brought weed to America and started rap. you are lost.
heil Hitler, wigger.

>>29862021
its like removing tumors from all major organs and stopping the ingestion of estrogen pills

>>29865841
>>29878591
>>29862399
>>29861825

Do you think that the US is fucked? or the hard time and decline of the white population will be a catalyst for change or the continue slow death of once a great nation? im nervous about the future but in a semi bad nervous semi good way

>>29879610

If you look down on what you call "wiggers" then why do you use gutter obscene language? Do you think that even Hitler would approve of that? It's an interesting case of cognitive dissonance.

>>29879672
>>29879745
Hey, off-topic, but do you have the pastebin for /nsg/ by chance? There's not a thread up right not and this thread is about to get cataloged. I'd love to jump ship on the only good general (plus /sg/) on /pol/ after that happens.

>>29879786
>I will posture my language in such as way that I think will make me appear intelligent.
hi Sargon.
Hitler was a soldier. I'm sure he made cusses.

>>29879861
wish I did, bro.

>>29879352
>if people are truly assimilated then they won't differ from the native population
people aren't just blank slates of paper that you can download a random culture into

>>29879878

Look through every speech that Hitler ever made and you will hardly find an obscene word if ever. No respectable European used obscene language before the modern era.

>>29880044

Never said they were. But what we do find is that, when the numbers are controlled, not en masse, when the immigrants who come into a nation are few, they assimilate and adapt. That's simply a fact.

>>29879988
Fuck it, I'll bake the bread anyways. Any /pol/ocks ITT, check the catalog.

>>29880135
immigrants of the same race can assimilate

>>29880249

We had blacks in England in the 18th century and they obviously assimilated.

>>29880304
>We
Let me stop you right there. You're Jewish. Fuck off.

>>29880304
how is that working out for you now?

>>29880304
it was 16 people.
>>29880349
yeah. he was the whole time.

Now that this thread is about to 404 and is devolving into political discussion, feel free to continue discussion here:
>>>/pol/310050879/

>>29880349
>Let me stop you right there. You're Jewish. Fuck off.

Pure English, but the trouble is that your ideology tells you that anybody who disagrees with you is evil and that anybody who is evil has to be a Jew.

>>29880376

No, there was actually a pretty considerable black community in 18th-century England. It was obviously only a fraction of a percent but the point is that when the number is small enough there is assimilation. Francis Barber married a white woman from Lichfield and his descendants live in Lichfield to this day. I'm sure that they're just like any other English person living there.

>>29879550
can't do better than second hand information. maybe a eurobro can offer insight.
>>29879610
thanks. holy shit.

>>29878591
Yeah, your post is not direct proof or anything

>>29880177
>>29880922
checked. shill posts are so fucking obvious. it's like they glow in the dark.