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>>29855280
GME

Because the stock market is unironically near the top.

Crypto idk but anyone who thinks it is going to be perma bull for stocks is out of their minds.
If the shoe shine boy is giving you stock tips you better gtfo
SPY 500 will be under 3k by Christmas.

probably because employment prospects are bleak as hell, everyone just wants to be independently wealthy now.

Men are more likely to think towards the future, and what needs to be done next, statistically speaking.

>>29855280
Do women hate men that want to make money? Seems like they hate men that don’t have money too

>>29855280
Final sell signal
It's fucking over boys

Buy and hold

T. Sold in 2012 at the “top of the bubble” because of smug retards like >>29855324

>>29855417
They want men to pay attention to them

>economy is dead
>market is booming
why is everyone into stocks all of a sudden

>>29855417
They hate men that aren't spending all their time working for money, because it means more time for self reflection and relaxation which lowers the value of a woman.

>>29855385 >>29855391 Wrong

>>29855324 >>29855382 Right

>>29855440
Unironically the opposite. The fed has forced everyone into the market by killing the economy, it's now too big to fail and they will prop it up with everything they've got. It's bearish for US but it's bullish for the market

>>29855382
Disagree it hard to tell, especially since education has increased so much over the coming decades.

>>29855280
Because normies buying GME and other meme stocks think they’re beating the big evil hedge funds but they’re really just being played by like a fiddle.

>>29855280
>Well?

>>29855324
Mhmm

>>29855280
There's no future for Gen z

>>29855505

>>29855417
Women want someone who is rich and attractive, but they also don't want them to dedicate all of their time to achieving those goals. So basically be born into wealth and have genetically high T or you're shit outta luck

>>29855572
>There's no future for Gen z
when the only way to make money is by speculating instead of working an honest job contributing to society, it means that "bad money" has driven out all the "good money"

young men have to resort to speculating on the black market (aka crypto) because the alternative (working an honest job) is no longer viable

It's not the 1990s/ Dotcom.

- A much larger population

- A much larger population that now has ease of communication. During the 1990s land lines were a thing and cellphones were a luxury.

- You no longer require a brokerage for most people.

- You're able to do futures, options, and stock trading anywhere in the country at any time with cell phones.

- Developing countries such as India & China are now able to get into the markets.

- Bonds and other safe forms of investment have been dead for over a decade now because they haven't kept up with inflation.

>>29855280
more interesting than roasties

>>29855706

>>29855280
Making an e-commerce store for my used socks. Thanks OP. Even though you are fag, it's helpful info.

>>29855776
covid should have been more lethal to boomers

>>29855776

>>29855721
>this time will be different

>>29855553
I see you fixed the picture.

Because guys can't make money showing their tits and ass on onlyfans

That boomer money is going to genx. early boomers have all the assets. late boomers are neck deep in debt to keep up appearances. sorry millennials, gen z will get all the loot from genx and their early boomer grandparents.

>>29855417
Women hate risk with a passion and stocks = risk.

>>29855536
>It's bearish for US but it's bullish for the market
bullish

>>29855382
Guarantee you as soon as the stock market goes pop so does crypto.

>>29855518
both things can be true simultaneously, retard

>>29855539
>education has increased so much over the coming decades.

>>29856197
Bitcoin is digital gold, gold always does well when the stock market goes down

>>29855721
are you trying to explain why it's going to crash faster and burn harder?

>>29855879
>things always stay the same no matter what

>>29856244
>Bitcoin is digital gold, gold always does well when the stock market goes down

>>29856244
look at gold's performance over the past week retard

>>29855382
(((they))) won't allow the stock market to crash anymore
Also what if we get a permabull for crypto as well, or even a decade long run, I would cum so hard

>>29856244
Wrong. Bitcoin is too fucking volatile to be a store of value. Institutions will exit all markets when both crypto and stocks collectively reach the top. We still have about 3 months before it all comes tumbling down. Sell in May and go away.

>>29856357
If you keep using the meme incorrectly then it uses its value over time.
<inb4soy

We are in Weimar-like pre-hyperinflation environment. Speculation is the only way to keep up with inflation. Shit’s going to get bad at some point between now and the next few years.

>>29856357
if you use the meme incorrectly then it loses its value over time
>inb4soy

>>29855518
These things are both true at the same time. Especially >>29855385

>>29856244
Bitcoin might be hit less badly, but the crypto market in general will crash if the stock market crashes. Especially with all the institutional money in crypto now.

>>29856070
us navy officer here
i can’t go into too much details but gen z will get drafted in under 3 months
you guys can call yourself lucky if you are still alive next year

>>29856601
>if you use the meme incorrectly then it loses its value over time

>>29855776
>mixing percentages and absolute numbers
>not even comparing it to other generations/parts of the workforce/the general average
>chart with yet another method of measurement
Literally textbook misleading statistics
completely misleading

>>29856244
Check those March 2020 BTC prices, chief.

>>29855280
Besides the obvious answer that society is crumbling down and Covid-induced panic is going to ruin a couple generations so gambling on becoming wealthy is the logical path, I do want to make one observation.
I retreat to stocks, crypto, and other related financial topics because it's almost all White and asian men.
They don't want us to have comic books or games or movies as escapism. You can't turn on sports without seeing niggers crying about BLM. You can't play vidya without being shamed and talked down to.
Financial shit is like a video game where the high score is actually real.
Also, it's white and comfy: I'm here with all of my frens who are aware about jews and niggers. The IQ barrier to getting seriously involved here keeps many nogs out.
I'm finally home until women and jews shit this place up too.

>>29855536
Textbook Weimar Republic

>>29856792
it's good to be home

>>29855721
Exactly, this is 1929 not 2000

>>29856792

They'll never enter. They'd have to give women and blacks free money just to have them enter (unless it's at the very top)

>>29855417
i told my woman never to ask cuz ill lie if she does.

>>29855417
They're just very perceptive to what's going on socially

>>29855280
FIRE SALE GET OUT RED ALERT RED ALERT

>>29855280
I LIKE THE STOCK
DIAMOND HANDS TENDIEMAN COME BOOM BOOM $1999 GME YEAH FUCK THEM HEDGIES

Anyone short oil futures for upcoming Opec meeting?

>>29857188
>hey'd have to give women and blacks free money
Are you living under a rock?

>>29855442
>>29855324
Can we safely say "the top" will be when women stop thinking BTC is 'too risky'?

Because you can throw a dart and make 10% in a week
the market is gay and retarded right now please just crash it

>>29855456
This. x100.

>>29855572
>>29855706
Gen Z is 50% mutts/minorities, they didn't have a future anyway.

>>29855776
>people over 76 control 20% of the wealth

Kekorino.

>>29857505
The shoe shine boys of today are blacks and girls who majored in English
Change my mind

>>29855539
>education has improved
>over the coming decades
Oh the irony.

>>29856792
wagmi

>>29855840
I thought for a minute we were going to have a black death scenario - tons of empty free housing opened up - property prices dropping to double digits - take your pick who wants to be President/Lord Protector/Warlord of the Steppes or whatever. Was a shame it was so fucking lame in the end.

>>29855280
Who cares? Women, no matter the age...are imbeciles.

>>29855280

Stocks and crypto are fun. Lowkey I don’t even care that much about the money, just the euphoria of winning is really intense. Now I know why there’s so many coked up stock brokers in the 80s.

>>29857476

Stimulus will be spent on Amazon goodies in a month, lmao. I meant free money just to enter the stock market with.

>>29855417
Yes, both of those things.

>>29857662
I have no need to, you'd be entirely correct. So once a nigger starts talkin about how he 'invested in dat PLTR cuz of dem fundamentals n sheeit' and some whore blue haired 39 year old spinster who 'teaches' starts telling me about how she interprets the TA on the BTC chart as being bullish, it's probably time to sell.

>>29857864
>just the euphoria of winning is really intense

Once you are starting to break 6 figures and get close to 7 it dies off. Idk why. I think removing yourself emotionally from all of it and being a robot is why I've been successful so I no longer feel anything from gains or losses. Maybe if I ever hit 8 figures and have truly made it but Idk.

>>29856791

this

>>29855539
Maybe up until the 1950's, latest after that it became slowly infested with leftists who were pushing an ideological agenda, starting with feminism, which led to the introduction of bullshit like "Women's Studies", which then mestastasized and infested basically the whole education sector. Now you have professors unironically teaching their student's that math is racist.

>>29858143
Tips on how to remove yourself from it?

>>29855456
This is all you need to know.

>>29858266
but math is racist

>>29856792
>reading this post as a negro
you’ll never be free of us white man, our fates are now eternally betwixt

kids are at home with nothing to do
stock craziness will end lockdowns rather sooner than later

>>29855280
Should I buy OGN??

>summer covid rates deflate
>masks no longer necessary
>business begins to return to normal in June/July
>people desperate to do shit go out
>business revenues increase
>unemployment decreases as people find jobs again

This won't normalize fully until 2022 but the economy isn't suddenly going to rapidly contract retards. Printing money and inflation is a different story, but the market won't crash if people are spending and companies' profits skyrocket

>>29857188
>They'll never enter.
They're already trying. Crypto especially has a "community" attached to it and that shit always makes women desperate to weasel their way into it and leech off the attention and ruin it for everyone.

>>29858311

Personally I meditate or do mindfulness for at least 15 min a day. Basically you just close your eyes and focus on something arbitrary like your heart beat or a physical sensation. Just let thoughts come and go let them be fleeting. Eventually you get to a point where you kind of cease to exist. Its like fasting for your brain. It takes some practice and its hard to do if you are on a lot of various stimulants IE caffeine, nicotine etc. To be fair, I'm also incredibly sure of the assets I'm holding in the long term and that helps ease any short term problems. I watched my networth go from price swing in the thousands, then to tens of thousands, and now hundreds of thousands, and next it might be millions. I know its just part of the process I guess.

>>29858486
yes

>>29858714
I'm thinking I should. I am still learning how to read the graphs and stuff, but from what I can tell, it looks promising.

>>29855324
>>29857505
these

Okay but when will it happen everyone know there’s a crash coming obviously but no one ever says or predicts when it could be

>>29856454
crypto is priced in sats. Bitcoin has cycles, so alts priced in sats has cycles too.

Don't even know where to buy OGN

Well I can either pay a dowry or I can get fucked for free by the stock market

>>29858550

You mean get some attention while investing almost nothing? I can see that happening

>>29855442
I'd be real careful with that kind of reasoning, Isaac.

>>29857476
That money is immediately going into fashion and clothing. The best case scenario is that they put whatever's left over on robinhood and put it into some of them bitcoin stocks

>>29856792
>I'm finally home until women and jews shit up this place too
Women and niggers can't invest, jews are making money off crypto already but not at rates as high as whites. My personal strategy is to be poor and put all my money into collecting things I believe will appreciate in value for my kids that are really cheap right now.
I don't mean boomer plates and cups, I mean old money and stuff like that, how you could have just taken hyperinflated money and passed it down 1 or 2 generations and then had your kids sell it on ebay for 10 dollars a bill when you got it for free. This is the kind of investing I'm looking into. Obviously I have other investments but I've been very interested in this kind of thing, imagine if you had a wheelbarrel full of weimar bucks that your grandchildren sold for 5 dollars each, that would be thousands of dollars that you were able to give them for the equivalent of a candy bar.

>>29855417
girls only like it when your prosperity is through them
once you are independent they start to lose it because in reality, its hard for a woman to keep a man around, to stop him from picking up the fishing rod and trying again.

>>29858987

You can't time the market. BUT this is a psychological game. You have enormously high stocks with no clear floor. If everybody thinks it's a bubble, and knows everybody else thinks it's a bubble, and knows stocks might go down 40-70%... My guess is we'll have a huge dip, then maybe a period of high volatility (as people might time the bottom), and then a crash

>>29856771
only a retard would argue against millennials making way less money in their wage cage. what are you trying to prove?

>>29858448
Niggers and Jews are the Great Filter.

>>29859176

Lmao

>>29855776
Good. Nigger and kike supporters don't deserve anything good in life.

>>29859344

Sorry, I forget to say I think it'll be SOON. IMO TESLA already dipped sufficiently, I'd say that's the catalyst. But I'm just some moron, might be wrong

>>29858498
The mere act of spending money and becoming employed again will cause the economy to contract as inflation begins to skyrocket. I think there's a sweet spot in 2021/early 2022 where most of us might /make it/ as crypto becomes absurdly speculated on, but the subsequent collapse will be fucking massive and then 10 years of depression and bug farming will ensue.

>>29858266
Is Jung onions too?

>>29855280
It's a fucking bubble

Are long dated OTM strangles the best play?

>Market keeps going up
>win
>Market goes down
>win

I highly doubt the market would just crab after such a huge run while the economy was and is still doing badly.

>>29859555
Not unless they don't open the economy ever anon. Think about it. UBI is basically already normalized, people have already consented to not leaving their homes ever and they rat each other out for wrongthink. Why would the government let people out, they don't want velocity, they want the economy to stay dead so that the dollar can stay alive. This can go on for decades

>>29855280
nothing ever happens, but everything is intentional. Yet another psyop to get everyone on the stock market.

>>29855280
That dude is ugly.

>>29856792

>>29855539
1. quantity of education has increased, we paid that price with mediocrity
2. most people are still dumb as fuck and making them go to school to learn superficial facts by heart won't change that. The only working education is still focused on learning Latin/Greek and maths, not on doing bullshit presentations on animal rights by copying a wikipedia article

Such a comfy thread. I love you bros.
Any advice for someone just getting started in Crypto? It's changed so much since I lost 3.5BTC in 2010 and I don't know where to get started.

>>29858266
>child free life

I like how on twitter and 4chan tradtypes are mad that they had kids and have to spend so much money and chads who opted against kids are living it up

>>29855382

>>29860322
>t's changed so much since I lost 3.5BTC in 2010
How bro? Bad trades or lost wallet?

>>29855324
We're already in the top, the top will simply last as long as 0% interest rates last.

>>29856792
Seriously, this is the only place left...
I'm looking forward to the bear market, so I can accumulate in comfort with my boys, and pajeets. I'm all for gme fucking over hedgies, but these newfags gotta go

>>29856792
Thank you for articulating thoughts I was unaware I had lmao

>>29858448
if only there was some sort of final solution

>>29860332
>living it up
iow masturbating, having your wheels spin while not actually accomplishing anything. but as long as they value "fun," it's a win-win for all i guess

>>29860579
I had it to buy stuff online, such as antiques from the silk road. I lost my wallet password and just didn't care much about it since I got what I wanted.
I mean I'm still not too bothered by it even now. I didn't lose $150k, I just lost three mostly worthless internet coins. Everyone seethes at me for my loss now but they had every chance to buy back then too.
It was on a local wallet too, not an exchange.

>>29856244
And gold goes down during a mass sell off and when we have high unemployment and loose hands I guarantee bitcoin is going back to under 20k...

>>29860950
I can't fucking wait until it goes under 20k. The level of adoption and recognition that BTC has now makes it so appealing to jump back on when it crashes. 100k EOY.

>>29859282
What happens when you left the stove on and the house burns down and you lose all your pokemon cards?

>>29860798
You've got the right attitude about it. Good for you anon, seriously

>>29861093
Gonna be putting them in the basement in a room that's all stone, really only have to worry about a flood but it doesn't flood where I live. Will be thinking of countermeasures for stuff like this.

>>29859489
I don’t think soon, given how trends often work interest for stocks will probably die out by late 2022 but that won’t crash the market

>>29856197
this

>>29856244
do you believe that yourself?

crypto is correlated with nasdaq

>>29861204
Thank you, friend. I don't see any reason to feel despair about it. I just think of it like this: I was smart enough to jump on something like that so early on, It won't be the last chance. More opportunities wi come and I can be better prepared next time round.
Now to find me a good coin to invest in. That's what I'm stuck on atm.

>>29855721

>potential amount of capital that can FOMO in is much higher
>average intelligence of participant has fallen a bit
>already in a FOMO-inducing bull run that seems to have no stops

so you're saying it will run up much faster and crash much, much, much harder?

Why overwork yourself for 50 hours a week when you can make what you make in 2 weeks in 30 minutes?

>>29855382
>its literally the opposite
lmao anon did you really think you could get rich off your internet cheat code meme tokens?

>>29856454
They crash the market purposely and all of the ultra wealthy whose names you don’t even know pull their shit out beforehand and repurchase everything in a firesale. It’s an endless cycle and they keep getting a bigger slice each time. And also a big club and we ain’t in it