/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>29815522
Sir Satoj will bring us many rupee when he is ready sir.

>>29815522
Down and only down. It will even dump harder when Satoshi sells his bags this year "in 10 waves".

>>29815522
It's the most shorted coin. All that needs to happen for a major upward pump is to get a few people to buy in. It will easily surpass BCH after the haters get margin called.

>>29815522
up. tomorrow. forever.
word is born

>>29816353
Keep pushing your dumb narrative, Satojeet. This coin is an irrelevant piece of shit. It'll become even more irrelevant thanks to Solana.

>>29815522
I can't stress enough how fucking retarded the SV Logo is. What the fuck is that Dragon even supposed to mean

>>29816437
BSV is the best coin out there, what the fuck is Solana, actually scratch that, I don't care about your shilling. BSV is the only coin that works.

>>29816480
The golden dragon dude. It's going to give a new mandate of heaven to some people, in addition to being pretty sick

>>29816545
>BSV is the only coin that works.
In the great scheme of things, BSV isn't important. I'll definitely enjoy it when Satoshi is dumping his stack onto your dumb heads.

A general buy signal is when people on biz attack BSV, with no real arguments. Other than calling people Indian or saying it has a bad logo. I'm buying more every day until it blows up.

>>29816639
I think you have that the other way around. Craig is dumping his BTC, of course he is saying otherwise so fools like BTCers keep inflating the price for him with Tether until the lawsuit ends.

>>29816750
Funny how for you Satojeets 'Bitcoin' means 'BSV' in one context and then 'BTC' in another.

>>29816630
Autistic as fuck. Looks like a child designed the logo

>>29816944
BSV is the real Bitcoin, Bitcoin Core is the fake one. What are talking about?

Never buying again.
Absolute hypocrite

>>29816981
Autistic as fuck is caring about a logo

>>29817027
He is allowed to change his mind, he has to pretend to play nice with Blockstream. I'm constantly buying BSV and holding.

>>29816981
That's one good thing about BSV: Its logo looks stylish.

>>29817027
His court case kept getting pushed back into 2021, because of the covid hoax

>>29815522
I believed in CSW, I bought BCH at 4k, 3k, 2k, 1600 etc all the way down the bear market. Then I converted all BCH to BSV back when BCH/BSV ratio was closer to 1:1. I'm still down a lot of money from 2017+. So far BSV has done jack shit. I could have made tons of gains with other coins. I wouldn't have minded holding for this long if only the bullrun would have finally started now. We were expecting 9000% gains this year (at minimum) but now fucking nothing is going to happen! This is a disaster, there's just no way around it, it's an absolute fucking disaster.

>>29817205
Too maybe people are shorting it with Tether. It will reach a point where it explodes and we will see our day in the sun. And unlike BTC, it won't pump and dump, it will only pump or sideways, because it scales.

>>29817308
>Too maybe people
The Satojeet exposed himself, kek.

>>29816750
If Craig ever dumped his BTC and said "I told you so and now I'm dumping on you," then no one will buy BSV just because he's a dick.

>>29817372
Because I typed the wrong word? BSV is the only coin that scales. It has 60,000 tx/second, BTC has 7 tx/second.

>>29817093
There was no need to post that extreme scenario of Satoshi dumping all of his holdings. He has been going on about law, honesty and manipulation for 4 years yet he is the only one that has actually provided information that has caused people to lose money in this while industry. If he maintains he is Satoshi and maintains that is convincing to other people how could he not have expected people to not sell btc or short btc and/or long bsvbtc bsv USD, in which case they have been absolutely financially raped bsv is the worst performing crypto in the top 100 and now he does a 180.
>>29817153
Then his message should have been I still plan to dump btc and bch when the Kleinman case is over.

The absolute state of bsvers who are defending this. Can you imagine if Elon Musk posted in all seriousness I am selling all my stock and shorting it 10x and then a year later said actually nah I'm "milking it". It's disgraceful

>>29817098
No it doesn't. It's retarded as fuck. Fucking food token are less cringe than that. BSV has gotta be the contender for worst logo in the entire crypto space. It explains the fan base though. It immediately attracts autistic fucks.

>>29817538
I don't care what he does with his coins. I want him to destroy BTC, and like I said, he did a 180 because the more BTC is worth, the harder he can crash it. He doesn't want his enemies disobeying the court order, which will be inclined to do if it threatens their livelihood.

>>29817538
Additionally he does the 180 at what could easily be the beginning of a 2 year bear market for btc

>>29817511
Solana manages to do 710k transactions per second and it'll be even more in the future.

>>29817653
There are no good logos in crypto, they all look retarded.

>>29817725
The timing of his changing to mr. nice guy was due to the lawsuit. Not the market.

>>29817653
You're getting too emotional now.

>>29815522

>>29817701
If you are the issuer of the currency and you hold 5% of the supply and you tell people seriously you are selling all your holdings and 10x shorting and then you do not do it it is a disgrace. I don't know what a lawyer or the sec would call it but what Elon Musk did which was obviously a joke ($420) pales in comparison to what Craig did and it's worse because he has been preaching for years about the consequences of market manipulation, yet he is the only one to have actually done it in a way that people lose money

>>29817818
A convenient correlation for him

>>29817901
You ain't kidding. MOVE.

>>29816353

>it will easily surpass that other dead Bitcoin fork

>>29817909
He said it on a private slack convo (we dont even know who he was talking to), and for all we know it was a joke. He also sent out a building falling meme. If people bought BSV because they assumed there would be market manipulation, then they are retarded.

>>29817538
He can either say it's not reasonable to believe he is Satoshi nakamoto or he can say he caused people to lose money with false information

>>29818099
He can also say he is satoshi, but i will do what i want with my coins. Which he has said more often than his price speculation, jokes, beliefs, or future intentions.

>>29818067
That's bullshit it was stated explicitly, there are Calvin Ayre tweets saying he will dump it when he accesses the tulip trust.
You're an echo chamber circle jerking yes man. How is it retarded to change your investment if Satoshi nakamoto is dumping his holdings? It would be retarded not to
If anyone else had done this Craig would be going on about how it is illegal Yada Yada. Complete hypocrite

>>29818174
It's too late for that he has already made himself a liar and people have lost money because of it

>>29818208
The butthurt is strong with you. You are blaming Craig for your own stupidity.

I'm buying more, out of principal. Because the only fraud I saw, was when my BTC suddenly didn't scale and became a store of value piece of shit. I lost money from blockstream, because they fucked Bitcoin, and split it into 3. BSV is the only coin that works, and the only coin I'm buying from now on. I will buy it until its 0 and I will buy until its millions. fuck BTC and fuck BCH for stealing Bitcoin. THAT IS FRAUD.

>>29818275
I am fine because I also bought shit coins. I am pointing out the disgraceful hypocrisy.
Defending his actions here is cultish, I'm getting qanon vibes. The irony of him saying there will be cognitive dissonance

>>29818425
I imagine it's something he could be taken to court for.
It's not speculative advice it's the issuer saying he is dumping and not only he doesn't he ends up taking the opposite position and has the audacity to describe it as milking the cow

Scam.

>>29818535
But he isnt the CEO of bitcoin, he can say and do whatever he wants with his coins. It's not even a lie, he had no contract or obligation to follow though with what he said he intended to do. Maybe he really was hacked and couldn't sell, maybe the lawsuit hinged on him still possessing the coins in the trust. Maybe he doesn't have access to the trust. None of that is fraud.

>>29818726
At the very most he misspoke, and the very least he was trolling/joking.

Craig's people are turning on him.
Bitcoin Association - "However, we do not agree with aspects of the legal position taken by Dr Wright’s company and its counsel (as outlined in the correspondence we received)."

>>29818726
Not legally he can't, you have no idea what you're talking about.
He was hacked years before

Are you a shill? How explicit is this it leaves no room for interpretation >>29817027

The real fraud takes place on the BTC side of things, with a hijacked coin, illegally pumping it with tether, delisting BSV, character assassinations, and censorship.

>>29818787
Nice to hear. What's bad for Satoshi is good for Bitcoin.

>>29818787
Now post the first paragraph. kek.

>>29818880
It doesn't excuse what he did. Andresen, grig and martinis say he signed there was more than enough evidence to believe he was Satoshi and there is no other way to read those messages as he was dumping everything if something changes that prevented him from dumping he should not have posted I have no intention of selling btc I'm "milking the cow"
He may as well have said "sucked in cunts, thanks for the liquidity"

>>29818975
Here:

"We generally agree with Dr Wright’s position that the digital currency and blockchain industry should strive to develop technical mechanisms and industry best practices to provide remedies, upon valid proof of ownership and with judicial due process, to restore control of lost or stolen coins to their rightful owner – just as there are remedies available for any asset or property (physical, digital, intangible or otherwise).

We also agree that the introduction of such solutions would help to engender more confidence in Bitcoin among everyday users, businesses and government agencies, and lead to wider adoption of Bitcoin’s innovative technology. This aligns with our Association’s goal to build a lawful digital currency ecosystem that leverages the capabilities of the Bitcoin public ledger to advance more honesty, transparency and accountability in the world."

US government is intentionally trying to tank the price to protect their fucking dogshit currency

>>29819022
What he did? Said two different things at different times on a private chatroom? Oh the horror.

>>29819063
>Going to court against yourself
Jesus christ

>>29819119
He made people lose money by providing false information, he is the issuer of the currency. He is a complete hypocrite to himself and everything he has promoted for the past 4 years

>>29819130
Because I noticed it wasn't the first paragraph.

>>29819184
Everyone has hated him since he signed for andreson. What history book are you reading from?

>>29815522
bsv is replaced by bsc. DHT solves whatever worries you have here, only if you care about purchasing power

>>29819184
Quit crying about him not filling your bags.

>>29819247
And now it is for good reason
>>29819286
>Shill argument
It's not equivalent to speculation it's systemic information. You've really fucked up and crossed the streams on the narratives here

>>29819457
I disagree that it is systemic information. He has been very consistent, he delivered on the protocol, and he clearing his name in court, so it will be settled once and for all.

Also, in your screenshot, he is referring to his company, not himself, in the second quote. It's comparing apples to oranges.

>>29819562
He is the fucking issuer of the currency it is not speculative as to what will happen if Satoshi addresses dump 5% of the supply alongside 10x shorts.
I'm done with you Craig could fuck your mother and you'd defend him at this point

>>29819727
Lol.

>>29819824
>Much 4d chess
Tell that to the poor cunt that lost money appropriately reacting to the information Craig provided. Disgraceful

How does the stolen coins work theoretically if he can prove that they are his?

I'm not sure if I have the events right or not. My understanding is Craig had 80k Bitcoins. Somehow Mt.Gox gained access to them? Or did craig have them on the exchange? Either way lets hash out both possibilities. Now the big question is what happened to those 80k coins. If Mt. Gox acquired them illegally through theft and then distributed them. What would happen. I mean lets say someone traded coins on Mt.Gox years ago, those coins are now mixed either other bitcoins. That means maybe a few thousand of them are in other people's possessions that legally acquired them. I'm not sure what exactly he was trying to do. I really don't understand the situation. It's easy if Mt.Gox stole them and Craig can just reclaim them in full. But if they have been mixed, what the hell would happen?

>>29817027
BTC and BSV have different goals at this point
BTC wants to be a store of value/market index
BSV wants to be a genuine currency people can use to purchase things
Because of this I don’t think BSV will ever pump hard because thats antithetical to a functioning currency

>>29818885

Now. DOGE found Musk.

>>29820367
The supply is fixed adoption (demand) is a sigmoidal function. The price will grow exponentially until about 2.5billion daily users

This technology is probably unifying the ccp and the CIA. Everybody is controlled opposition

>>29820367
Think miner fees.

>>29820367
You don't understand value.
BTC's only value is payment remittance. Which is useless because 20$+ a transaction fee makes it DOA. There is no value to having a digital coin on your screen. At least before lightning you had an immutable transparent ledger that I guess as some sort of nominal value (Would require a robust network).

Gold has value because you can be sure tomorrow someone will take it. It's lasted 5000 years. It also has other uses. But for a product like BTC, it's changed way too many times for it to be stable or reassured that it will be the same thing tomorrow.

BSV is commoditizing data. So basically you'll have applications that need BSV to operate. This makes the coins as valuable as they are for whatever value you are trying to achieve. I.E. buying some sort of data , that piece of data provides you value since you are the one who obtained it. The low fees, plus super fractional / fungibility of BitCoin actually make micropayments possible. There are many things that now can be more accurately priced or have a price where 0.01$ was too expensive. Also low transaction fees make micropayments possible in the first place. In addition to this, since it is now super cheap to do anything, you might as well using BSV. Now that you use BSV everyone might as well use it since its capitalistic innovation just crippled bank transfers and paypal. Now That you have an immutable ledger you can track so many things, which offers an endless pool of data to be recorded now. This further drives the value of BSV. This is the greatest innovation in our lifetimes. I just hope the smoke and mirror show fades. It will benefit every single person. Cut down on corruption. BitCoin makes labor that was once unable to compete on the free market, due to various restrictions (ie. Geographical), possible. It's basically a capitalist blanket, layered on top of the internet.

>>29820807
The only argument for btc is that scale, speed, resolution and security can't be achieved by an electronic cash system run by intermediaries.
You can run a non tyrannical monetary system on gold same as Bitcoin it is dependent on law. The thing is the powers that be don't want to. For the past 50 years wars have been fought, children and drugs trafficked etc for the control of money, they will not just let a peer to peer electronic cash subvert what has been so hard won

>>29821144
*Bsv not btc

>>29817205
Chinese blockstream copypasta. Kys chink.

>>29816437
idk i saw an interview with some guy who made a good case that btc is a bilderberg scam and when u think about muh instituional money aka jack dorsey elon musk, it makes sense. could get ugly or used as a scapegoat idk

>>29821144
I see what you mean. But you can't drive a business with gold. At least you have much more freedom / opportunity to scale your business world wide on the web. Whose to stop your business from only accepting BSV.

>>29821319
The need for business is artificial inflation puts everyone a treadmill that accelerates as you innovate faster shoes. I think every power in the world is compromised, it's fucking over