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bollocks

>>29817892
KEEP THE BREAD CUMBS COOOMINGGG I NEEEEEED THIS YESEYESYESY

Bullshit, i dont believe it. Partnerships were confirmed by the team, yes, but we are still months away from dex release

I need this to hit $1 already

>>29818402
is confirmed by team just not made public. I know hehe

>>29817892
>>29818025
Latest announcement

>>29818647
i admittedly do not understand this, are all points related to the dex release, or completing point 1 already means its release

>>29817892
Any news about the Hydra group testing?

>>29817892
>Rumour
Nigger it's literally mentioned in the latest announcement...

>>29818402
>Months
Maybe 1-2 months at most
>>29818749
Yes. The connext node thing is important because right now you need to download docker and enbale bios settings to use connext. This change will circumvent that.

Channel stability is a must have. And usdt stress test are important. All of these must be done before dex release. They are all being worked on simultaneously.

>>29819288
No. The only thing we know about hydra is the dex fees and the previous announcement stating it's 25% done.

>>29817892
30c is priced in until hydra comes.

>>29817892
This chink is his uncle's son and try to scam poor people

>>29817892
boxmining? He shilled Apollo Protocol if I remember correctly?

>>29819568
>30c is priced in until hydra comes.

utterly retarded. this thing will be fully operational well BEFORE hydra is completed, and do you think it will still be some obscure biz meme at that point? most will be priced out come hydra

>>29819568
Retard.
>>29819799
Checked and based.

>>29819799
Don't forget hydra is already 25% done. It probably won't take too long to implement after dex release.

>>29817892
just a few more bugs left and the dex will be finished. add more coins will be easy from there.
Before end of April can be done.
Less than 2 months for full release.

There is no one buying or selling. How is the volume so low. Couldn’t buy this if i wanted to

>>29818647
Ey thats me in that announcement. Very cool

>>29820008
No one wants to sell. Also liquidity is different from volume

>>29820008
Nobody wants to give up their stakies, people see the price movement if they try and buy, and chicken out. It will stay flat until a launch imo

>>29820057
>>29820100
Checked and this.

>>29820100
>>29820177
C-checked.

>>29819647

>>29819647

>>29821107
>>29821446
Why are you posting this?

>>29819799
Keep on dreaming

>>29819799
Pure delusion. There's little incentive for this coin to moon before hydra.
Hydra is far far away, most likely years away. And before you start screeching how I'm a pajeet fudder just remember that last year I kept warning you idiots that the dex will not be released by the end of 2020 like you shills claimed.
XSN moonbois need a reality check with their made up timelines.

>>29822855
Holy cope, checked.
>Pure delusion. There's little incentive for this coin to moon before hydra.
False.
>Staking block rewards
>Masternode block rewards
>Dex Liquidity providing
>AMM bots on the lightwallet/dex
>Taker/Maker fees

>Hydra is far far away, most likely years away.
Hydra is already on 25%/100% completion.
They even updated the roadmap
https://stakenet.io/roadmap/

>XSN moonbois need a reality check with their made up timelines.
Kys gay pajeet fudder.

>>29822855
Oh and did I happen to mention the DEX itself?
The only industry standard DEX!
>Coordinate high frequency, cross-chain bot trades effectively and with zero downtime.
>Settle trades instantly, ideally with a success rate >99.9%.
>Offer an experience that is better or, at minimum, comparable to the Centralised Exchanges in terms of ease of use, speed of deposits/withdrawals, and heavy liquidity.
>Execute cross-chain trades between multiple blockchains with native assets as opposed to wrapped assets. Native interoperability (i.e. Bitcoin/Ethereum) and code agnostic frameworks are ultimately the way forward. Wrapped assets and DEXs built towards codependence are stopgap solutions.
https://medium.com/stakenet/stakenet-dex-usecase-strategy-overview-162f844651a4

Also don't forget the DEX buy back and burn function, with high DEX volume, XSN will become deflationary. Yeah I can see why are fudding so hard nigger.

it's a fucking scam. Devs are trying to rug again. Fuck off pajeets.

But the lightning network is flawed. This is why it hasn’t been used. What happens when 5000 people close there lightning channels at the one time?

Same thing with connext.

State channels will never be popular

>>29823924
>But the lightning network is flawed. This is why it hasn’t been used.
Then why are Cexs starting to adopt it?
>channel close fud
kys

Friendly reminder poorfags are fudding to buy cheap

>>29824131
You don't need to fud this. Just wait until end of Q1 and watch the price dump when the dex launch is nowhere to be seen.

>>29824579
Sadly this, the way team keeps pushing back the release date is disappointing

>>29823924
>But the lightning network is flawed
Yeah how? Prove to me it is flawed. I have never had an issue on lightning. Prove it now or fuck up

>>29824579
>>29825489
Cope. There has never been an official release date. Only some expectations that were misstated.

>>29825564
You accusing me of cope while you are clearly coping yourself lmao

>>29825564
lol, already moving the goalposts prior to disappointment. get fucked scammers.

>Anything negative anyone says about XSN for the past 2 years is FUD

Why is every token that has an X in it always full or smooth brained mouth breathing trogs?

>>29825618
Seethe.
>>29825726
Seethe.
>>29825736
99% of negative things against xsn for the last 3 years has been fud.

>>29825618
>>29825726
You mad faggot? I'm never selling my stakies.
>>29825736
Kys blockcuck.

Whitebit ama. Dev lied, bagholders died.

>>29825564
>Only some expectations that were misstated.
The team wrote pic related on the 10th of Jan. Well over a month has passed and there's no word of the "public launch date".
So stop twisting the truth you dumb faggot shill.

>>29827300
He shouldn't have given a specific timeframe. The whitebit ama was very eager.
>>29827535
>Over the next month we will have a main focus on running stress tests of our newly integrated connext client with cross-chain BTC LN to eTH, USDT trading pairs

The next month refers to above; ie the testing aspect. The public launch dates were a different sentence. Learn harder ranjeet.

>>29827669
>The public launch dates were a different sentence. Learn harder ranjeet.
damage control mode
>100%

>>29828325
>roadmap fud
>2019
Where did you get this picture from anon? I have never seen it before.

>>29825909
>>29825941
Has users gone up from 12 a day since, what was the version you guys were on, lightning or something in August?

Whats the price action since then? Like 30%?

Man it must suck to miss out on a bull market just because youre married to a coin that cant break into the top 400. When you lined your colored blocks at the foot of your bed every morning, do you go by primary colors first?

Fucking autists.

>>29828364
>>roadmap fud
this should be a nice red flag for anyone considering buying this; past roadmaps are now considered "fud". LOL

>>29828550
>past roadmaps have been used as fud
>complains about roadmap fud
Fuck off.
>>29828524
Kys

>>29827669
>The next month refers to above; ie the testing aspect. The public launch dates were a different sentence.
You have got to be kidding me lmao. I fucking new you stakejeets will start making your own retarded interpretations on the meaning of that text.
"Also, there will be news on the public launch date." When? Next week? Next year? That sentence is pointless without a time frame. Of course it's referring to the time frame established in the previous sentence you absolute moron.

Fucking hell you shills are insufferable. Next you'll say that actually they're only talking about the launch date of the wallet, not the dex.

>>29828592
There will be news when there is news. When chainlink staking? When eth 2.0? When sharding? Shut the fuck up cunt and kill yourself faggot.

I have a MN I'm never selling but not getting my hopes up. The team is so autistically bad at communications and setting up expectations. If they succeed however, Stakenet will be huge. 1 MN would be enough to make it.

>>29828592
This faggot >>29828574
>>29828632
Is sooooooooo mad hes had his money tied up for years with almost no type of gain. Chainlink and eth need no dates since they both have working products with billions of dollars in market cap and millions of investors and users.

Youre gambling for years on a dex nobody uses. Make sure the rope is extra thick and tie it to a support beam to make sure it supports your fatass while you swing.

only gamblers buy XSN. Dev team are a bunch of awkward social degenerates.

>>29828814
Retard alert. Xsn was sub 10cents last year. Ngmi.
>>29828901
Fuck off labz

It's amazing how they're now shilling the "web UI", completely admitting that no one is going to download some obscure installation package, install docker and open firewalls. They are essentially going to head-to-head with Uniswap and a hundred other web based swap platforms, good luck with that, being that they're 2 years late to the game. Not to mention there are no working LN nodes for browsers. They literally "developed" that Qt based shitwallet for nothing for almost 2 years, KEK

>>29829077
Web UI doesn't support btc LN retard. The only reason they made it because of retards like you. The web ui will completely btfo uniswap and other eth based dexs.

>>29829056
Aint it nutty that you morons, just like RLC faggots, used to have dozens of threads active at 1 time shilling these shit coins and now youd be lucky to even see one? You ever wonder why your trading volume rarely even breaks 100k a day? Its because nobody is trading this piece of shit and you have been left a bagholder, and you will continue to hold those bags till 1 day you realize theyre far too heavy and you will try to pawn them off on someone to buy a real investment.

Maybe thats what this lone XSN thread was for, to try and get rid of those awfully heavy bags. Now stop playing around on 4chan, its almost time to wage.

>>29829231
>Comparing rcl to xsn
Kys faggot
I only read one line of your fud before replying

>>29829417
Have fun down there with statera, maybe you bagholders can discuss your dead projects together.

>>29829188
>Web UI doesn't support btc LN retard.
didn't say it did. Learn to read jeet. By the way this is a BAD thing for your bags!

>>29829672
Only reads 1 line before replying...

How is it a bad thing? The web ui is in addition to the dex.. seethe harder cz, im not selling.
>>29829518
N

I have never seen such a polarised project on this board than XSN, both parties have valid points and only time will tell if the team can deliver.
I got 1 MN for now

>>29830074
>both parties have valid points
Single digit IQ detected

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>>29830382
Kys jeet

>>29830345
Man you are the angriest stakefag ive seen to date.

>MOOOOOM THEY WONT STOP BULLYING ME ABOUT MY MASTER NODE

>>29830447
Kys retard. I am extremely comfy with my 10+ nodes.

>>29830848
Jesus.. Jealous

>>29829077
Funny cause you can literally go use LN-USDT swaps using OpenDex just now. I said that to a shill on here and he was like lmaoo I need to use docker and shit? Who’s gonna use that.

Only the devs are doing ln-eth swaps just now. But you can literally do it yourself with OpenDex.

Lightning is so fucking shit lmao. No one will adopt state channels

XSN DEX final version next month.

>>29819989
>More coins
MORE SHITCOINS
1-CLICK SHITCOIN DEPLOYMENT
GIMME MY UNREGILATED ERC SHITCOIN BONANZA
BSC - MATIC ALL THE SIDE CHAINS
HUNDREDS OF SHITCOIN PAIRS, INSTANT AND TOTALLY FEELESS SWAPS, AND GIVE ME ALLL THE VOLUME
>vortex go sucky-sucky :^)

>>29822855
You're going in the smug screen cap. I'm going to fuck your mother with my xsn gains.

>>29832387
>shilling openshit
Kys fag.
>>29832576
>final version
>without hydra
Retard.

>>29833082
Lmao. So it was you that didn’t know how to use Docker.

Better get to learning boy. You’ll need it if you don’t know how to use Linux

>>29833251
I know how to use docker retard. But docker wasnt the problem with open dex. The problem with opendex is that it's fucking shit. Shit UI, shit everything.

>>29817892
The /biz/ server link is:
https://discord
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JOIN

>>29817892

Hello im a Bastard im my uncle's son and have small penis and want to collect money for penis transplanting

>>29833630
kys

>>29828524
>Fucking autists
You'll get one and only one post from me so pay heed. You're goddamn right I'm autistic, and I'm in this shit for the fundamentals. I'm the michael fucking burry of crypto, and you're some retard day trader pretending he knows his shit because he swing trades candles, so let me put this in terms you'll understand:

I bought in link's pre-sale. I scooped up GRT at .3, SWAP at .25, PRQ at .04, BAND at $2. I buy fundamental use case and fundamental value, and this is the closest thing to a black swan product I've ever seen in this market. Once this product goes live, AMMs as we know it will be useless, wrapped tokens will be an edge case if not entirely obsolete, arbitrage will fundamentally change, and the xsn token will be front and center of it all. More importantly, the green dildo on this bitch is going to fundamentally wrek your anus the week this goes live and has billions in trade volume per day. Uniswap and 1inch have no tokenomics, and each is worth 50x what xsn is worth. Imagine what a true dex with market-maker features and taker-pays-maker liquidity will do for crypto.

Now, recognize that this world is (pessimistically) 3 months away from reality, and that this coin has been literally stagnant since january's bitfinex release pump, not because the coin has no value, but because current market makers don't want this coin to gain attention. $40m market cap is simple to manipulate; the bots on whitebit and bfx practically do it for us.

Now I don't expect you to buy, but recognize that eventually you'll be using the product just like every other swinging dick trader that wants to make money, which is why I'll take my $.18 average buy price and happily continue to DCA until release, at which point I'll be like fucking michael burry, take my profits, and disappear until the next black swan market event.

>>29833570
Weird, didn’t read like that in the last thread your were in

Plus, the UI is actually better. Since it’s useable. The dev group for Stakenet is still doing CLI trades. The GUI is for LN-LN or erc-erc. There is no GUI for LN-Erc. So OpenDex is winning in that regard.

Gonna be a massive disappointment for normies that want to state channel trade from btc to eth. Since they’ll all need to instal docker also. We went from Raiden not being able to function on windows, to being able to function on windows as long as you run Docker also. Lmfao

>>29833760
>More importantly, the green dildo on this bitch is going to fundamentally wrek your anus the week this goes live and has billions in trade volume per day
Based

>>29834474
>last thread
They was 2 of us. The other guy couldn't get docker working.
>ui is better
No the open dex ui is fucking terrible.
>no LN-erc
Retard alert.
>opendex is winning in that regard
No they are no. How many internal trades of Btc-Usdt have they done?
Stakenet has done this week
>https://orderbook.stakenet.io/monitor/btc_usdt
>3470 btc_usdt trades
>$12k worth
>Since they’ll all need to install docker also
No they won't, pic related you dumb lying retarded nigger.

>2. Browser node support (working closely with connext on this, almost solved)

>This enables users to download the wallet and commence using it without the need of downloading Docker.
>As an additional point, this will allow us to create an ETH Layer2 Web DEX! (A special nod of appreciation to architect for helping with this).

>>29833760
>>29834645
Extremely based and redpilled good sirs. That open dex faggot now has an open anus.

>>29834478
Nah, this is a DASH fork piece of shit. People caught on.

A) Anybody that has a significant amount of BTC is not going to trade on lightning unless they're running their own node.

B) Stakenet shills have no BTC and only have Stakenet shitcoin, so they can't even run a BTC node because they have no collateral and Stakenet shitcoin is not involved in BTC lightning transactions, so it has no value.

C) The devs earlier roadmap said they were going to implement "sharding" on this DASH fork piece of shit. That's impossible, so it's an outright lie. Now they say that this piece of shit is going to be the new Maker and have a stablecoin on it, even though it's a UTXO chain, so it's impossible to have a token network running on top of it.

This thread is nothing but bag holding shills, just coping that they bought a Dash fork piece of shit. It's ancient tech.

>>29834645
You should confirm with Jo on that last part. Cause the web up is for connext only. So it’s like the anon said earlier in this thread, it’s for eth trades only.

To be able to btc/eth over connext and lightning. You WILL have to download the application, which means you WILL have to download Docker. Lmao

>next month
>next Q1
>soon
Yeah, no thanks.

>>29834984
You are an actual pajeet.
>This enables users to download the wallet and commence using it without the need of downloading Docker.
>enables users to download the wallet
>without the need of docker
What's it like owning open dex instead of stakenet?

>>29835122
Checked. Imagine not owing Stakenet

>>29835122
Checked. Imagine not owning Stakenet.

>>29835312
>>29835389
Why did you delete?

>>29835389
Wrong, imagine holding a DASH fork piece of shit where the coin has no value in 2021.

>>29835454
Why do you even bother with that fud?

>>29835410
Now newfags can't see it

>>29835496
Kek based.

>>29835454
Let me rephrase that. Imagine not owning at least 1 masternode.

This DEX seems to be perfect for high volume bot traders. Not sure how popular it will be retail wise. At first probably not very but it will prob find a nitch there also. Regardless MN holders are going to be rich off of the volume of trading that will happen with bots on this Dex.

>>29835876
>Simple swap user interface for the normas

half the thread is fud because poorfags are still accumulating for their masternode and don't want xsn to get attention and pump

>>29835876
Kek all bots/major traders will move to stakenet, we have already won
>>29835923
Kek they can stake until they get the node.

>>29835591
Let me ask you this? You're buying all these worthless masternodes, which is an idea that died 5 years ago, as no new EVM compatible blockchains use masternodes, and you probably have never done anything successful in your life, yet now you're smarter than everyone else?

You sound just like the people who used to buy stocks from the pink sheets and believe everything you were being told by the scamming organization.

A) BTC was created to be a networked connected directly by peers. It makes no sense to use a third party for this because it's capital inefficient to begin with and now it requires trust assumption.

B) Stakenet coin has no utility because BTC routing does not need Stakenet in anyway. Realistically, if anyone wants to participate in this network, they will run their own node. It's not difficult to set one up now, so to assume that anyone with any real capital is going to trust a third party is beyond stupid. But you are someone that has never dealt with any capital before, so what would you know?

C) Stakenet LLC is separate from X9, just like the previous scam PoSW was a separate legal entity. They did this so they could limit their liability before they exit scam. However, given their roadmaps, like putting things on it such as "sharding" when it's a UTXO chain, and now a stablecoin, when it's a UTXO chain, to me are such considerable lies, that you should save that information to use against them in court in the future. Afterall, this is the second scam X9 has been associated with, so you should be able to prove intent.

D) You're not smarter than the market, so you're going to lose your money. That's on you.

>>29835876
>Partnerships
>Liquidity providers
>Something
>Something

>>29835876
This is the most idiotic statement being made. No high volume trader is going to trust a third party piece of shit.

>>29836017
>masternode are old tech fud
You are gay.
>evm meme
Connext does evn. stakenet users connext, hmmmmmmmmm
>and you probably have never done anything successful in your life,
Personal attack, opinion discarded.

>>29836078
Hello cz is that you?

>>29836128
Peak delusion thinking that CZ gives this DASH FORK a second thought. It's not on his radar because it's worthless. If that hurts your feelings, learn to detach emotions from business.

>>29817892
>close beta is almost ready
newby here. What does it mean?

I stopped shilling XSN when i realised /biz/ doesnt deserve to know. The DEX is a success and we make it beyond our wildest dreams or it fails and my other investments succeed. i cant lose. i have shit tonnes of XSN but never go all in lads, just not a healthy way to live.

>>29836534
>The DEX is a success
Why I cant trade there?

>>29836521
>soon

thats what it means. so prepare for another 3 years of suffering at the hands of devs that never actually deliver shit.

>>29836744
Checked and yes. The next 3 months will feel like 3 years.

>>29836744
This year. If I had to wait 3 more years I would.

>>29836834
>>29836927

XSN is like a k-pop singer that is kept in training for 20 years and never releases an album.

>>29837126
Kek. Anon what happens when the album drops?

>>29837204
>he thinks the album is dropping

>>29837243
>he doesn't know

>>29817892
discord tranny scam

>>29837299
amazing to me that yankeeruinx and the faggoty team for this scam still believes its worth having a squad of discord trannies shilling this bullshit on biz for literal years even tho there is never any price action beyond a 30 cent dump and a 20 cent crab

>>29828364

Its the roadmap from their site before they moved every goal back multiple years after failing.

>>29835122
To use eth to eth trades. Yes.

You should ask for clarity. You’re not doing Btc-eth on layer 2 through your web browser you muppet.

>>29837732
>To use eth to eth trades. Yes.

No.
>2. Browser node support (working closely with connext on this, almost solved)

>This enables users to download the wallet and commence using it without the need of downloading Docker.
>As an additional point, this will allow us to create an ETH Layer2 Web DEX! (A special nod of appreciation to architect for helping with this).

>AS AN ADDITOINAL POINT
Holy fucking kill yourself nigger.

>>29837777
C-checked. Put me in the screen cap

>>29835312
>>29835410
>>29835496
Holy fucking based, newfags btfo.
WGMI

>>29837777
Fucking checked. God damn this thread is fucking gold.

>>29820051
My man!

>>29837777
checked. but pretty sure you're just confirming what the anon said
>this will allow us to create an eth layer 2 web dex.
seems like the web interface will be connext only.

>>29839899
Yes, the web ui is eth only atm. However the other anon was claiming that the light wallet would need to download docker which is untrue. The devs are working with connext to sort this.

>>29840034
no he didn't? quite clearly he says you'll need to download the app (and by extension docker) to do btc to eth trades. the whole argument is about the trading. no one cares about the wallet

>>29837732
>To use eth to eth trades. Yes.

then you say here >>29837777
>No.

then here >>29840034
>Yes, the web ui is eth only atm.

soooo. it is indeed for eth trades only. if i want to trade my bitcoin for link, i will have to download the wallet and shit.

>>29840553
No the entire point of the web node is to remove the docker download....

The anon earlier was saying that the client (main wallet/dex) would need the docker. Neither the client nor the web ui will require docker to be downloaded.

>>29840640
........... rrrright