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First in a Monero general?!

Max comfy

comfy

>>29563337
darn, I was going to make my first /xmr/ general of this week but OP beat me to the punch.
Also you messed up the subject OP. You are putting /xmr/ in the name field instead o the subject field. But whatever, it keeps the normans out.

Hi monerobros what are you holding beside xmr

In for nudes

>>29564723
ETFs, definitely not boomercoin™

>>29564723
Bitcoin and Wownero

>>29564723

XMR and BTC only non shitcoins

>>29564723
Monero and Link

>>29564723
more XMR

I learn english because of she

>>29564723
i have 0.01 ETH in a pool that i can no longer withdraw because they changed the limit to 0.1

I'm a single digit stacklet should I diversify or hold?

>>29565505

I mean diversify into btc and eth

Looks like we are retesting 0.0042. All things look great so far. If the market has several more days of bleeding, Monero will react positively to this and break 0.005 again.
>>29565505
DCA more Monero. It's the most undervalued crypto right now.

>>29563337
Looking at the housing market explosion happening in Canada right now makes me extremely comfy holding monero. Either the Canadian looney is going to inflate like a balloon (thereby increasing XMR's value), or the bank will rein in the interest rates to higher levels (which will crash everything and make everything default so they will not do so)

Meanwhile I'm accumulating [an unknown amount of monero] a week with mining profits.

>>29564723
Xmr. Thinking of dabbling in a single other coin but idk which one. Not as confident about any other coins as i am about xmr.

comfy thread

How do I trade Monero without emotions...

>>29566253
then don't hold other coins. People here talk about diversifying in crypto but I think that's kind of moot. Just hold the crypto that you find valuable, and diversify with other things (basically, index ETFs which are globally diversified & real income producing assets like housing)

Build cash flow & while optimizing for asset appreciation. And keep things that are useful around, like a cryptocurrency that can never be taken from you by the government

>>29566348
Stop swinging and it will be ok

>>29566366
Checked. Good advice. I still think there's is atleast one solid surveillance coin project out there that will rise and stand the test of time. I believe monero will be around forever. Helps that i think it's undervalued so buying is a no brainer. But there's gotta be other coins that will stay forever. Crypto infrastructure, chainlink? Could it really hit 1k?

>>29566348
just DCA. Set a plan in motion that will go for three years. For example: I want to hold 5% of my assets in XMR, and if I'm below I will purchase X% of my income into it as I get paid. Don't even look at the price.

Human emotions are the most fallible part of our decision making process, so create a framework where they are not a component. Make a plan, and stick to it.

Over 20 years currency supply inflates real, fixed supply assets at (((2%))) (not really, it's more) a year. In 20 years that will compound regardless of anything else. This simple mechanism will help you slowly escape from the clutches of the central banks policies. Compounding gains are a powerful mechanism, humans are just short sighted.

Part of not connecting emotions to investment strategies is having a reliable steady income & skills that are transferable to any city, any place. So build career capital, not just cash-flow/asset-appreciation capital.

God speed anon

>>29566865
Honestly, I don't know. Do your research, and analyze if it will solve a real problem, follow it's supply curve to determine if it is useful to have in relation to the demand it generates. I'm betting on monero because of first mover advantage & adoption by DNM

>>29566865
With the way the dollar is going absolutely. In pre-covid dollars? I doubt it but it's not impossible.

anyone had any troubles with big orders when using localmonero? last thing I want is my bank asking questions

>>29567106
I did, unfortunately. I think someone scammed someone to send me cash for my XMR once upon a time, and I got tagged with fraud :/ It hasn't affected my credit or any interactions with my bank.

I hate banks, they are so stupid

Pivoting my mining efforts from Ethereum to XMR now (using gpu to mine eth and be paid in xmr through monero ocean)

The thought is, this is the last push while eth is minable, and I think I'll exploit that in order to stack the XMR up. I did want to hit a certain amount of eth in the stack, but I am not sure whats gonna happen when regulation kicks in, if any of this at all will be worth it.

Lets go monerochads.. stay the course, and lets hope the world open up more to the idea of using it for regular day to day purchases.

>>29564723
ETH

>>29568341
I'm mining ETH on my GPU and left my CPUS to mine XMR.

>>29568341
Is that the MO XMRig you're using then? I'm about to start mining with monro ocean and I havent chosen the mining software yet. Reckon its better than straight up mining XMR?

>regular day to day purchases
How nice would that be!!

>>29568341
similar story here, but I manually exchange to xmr on the integrated nicehash exchange
they did a poll recently for direct pay out in alts but nothing came of it (yet)
>>29568967
>MO XMRig
yes that's the auto algo switching miner

lads i just found my wallet seed from 4 years ago, no idea how much is in here.

is there any info around showing the block height for certain dates to restore from? syncing from the beginning will take forever

>>29569461
Yeah theres a blockchain bootstrap on the getmonero.org site

>>29569461
You don’t have to download the blockchain.
Simply connect to a remote node. With the GUI, you can use simple mode. I’d you are having difficulty find a node, you can manually input the information (we can help you out). Once you connect to a node, you will scan the blockchain using that node. Scanning takes like a half hour.

>>29564723
ALGOs.
Playing both sides.

>>29563337
i just recently bought bros , did i do good or am i late?

>>29564723
eth and link

>>29570703
You aren't late at all anon, this isn't some P&D that you'll miss out on in a matter of days or weeks. This is a long-term investment.

I buy a set amount every month on a specific day regardless of the price and I'm comfy beyond words.

>>29564723
wbtc and cake, some eth and bnb for gas. don't judge

>>29564723
50% XMR, 25% BTC, 10% ETH

The last 15% is for shitcoin gambling. Currently Nano, ADA, and IOTA.

>>29564723
GRT, AVAX, and BEAM.
>>29570703
You did good, kid

>>29569907
thank you, had to change to advanced mode and then select remote node (i was running daemon on this machine all the way back then)

double digits in this wallet!

>>29571620
very good folio sir.

>>29572761
Very good work

>>29564723
Stonks and technically Bitcoin.

goodmorning boys
>>29564723
LTC, and I trade shitcoins and bring the profit right abck to XMR

Can we go to moon finaly?

>Start autistically tuning my opteron 6276 server and kernel
>Manage to hit 7KHs
We are reaching unparalleled levels of FAST now

Hodling is so comfy

>>29572761
wow, nice!

>>29573608
you must be new here

How bad is it if you dont use an airgap or hardware wallet? Some posts I've been reading recently have made me pretty paranoid but I've never been hacked in the 7 years I've been using crypto.

>>29564723

BTC, ETH

the answer to the universe is actually .0042. LOAD UP!!!!

>>29574015
And even posting this question here is making me more paranoid lol...

>>29574015
>>29574177
should be fine fren, ledger users might unironically be at more risk since the dataleak
you can always make paper wallet(s) that have never been connected to the interwebs

>>29574015
Nothing can prevent you from a $5 wrench attack. And leaks regarding hardware wallets or slips in your opsec could lead to this.
Use linux, don't store you seed on an unencrypted drive, and NEVER TELL ANYBODY HOW MUCH MONERO YOU HAVE.

>>29574726
It's best to say 'Monero? Is that like a bitcoin?'

Another day, more weak hand faggot selling

>>29574726
don't forget to encrypt the actual file your seed's stored in too and remove the plaintext one by writing random bytes to the size of the file then removing

>Want to buy Monero because this may very well be the lowest it will ever be
>Create Kraken account
>Can't figure out how to wire money to Kraken, I'm pretty sure my bank only supports sending money to other specific banks
>Try to create an Etana account, website won't work
>Try troublehshooting, I can find others with similar problems but no solution
>Message tech support, it's been several hours and they haven't responded
FUCK I think the Bogs are hacking my computer to make sure I can't buy

>>29576141
>figure out how to wire money to Kraken, I'm pretty sure my bank only supports sending money to other specific banks
>>Try to create an Etana account, website won't work
>>Try troublehshooting, I can find others wit
Just use CakeWallet. Buy Litecoin anywhere and use CakeWallet's in-app exchange LTC > XMR (changenow). Very easy.

>>29568796
When using the monero ocean eth mining tutorial tho, my hash rate shot up 10x, like with all my cpus I was only getting 0.1 every two weeks, now I’m able to get that per day

>>29576345
Can you share this tutorial?

>>29563337
How do you feel now that taproot is gaining default consensus on bitcoin and combined with lightning essentially makes monero yet another pointless alt?

anonymity and privacy is no longer a differentiator. you're obsolete. sorry monerochan.

Normies are waking up kek

>>29576504
taproot is a softfork and is non optional privacy. It doesn't hide transaction amounts or shield wallet addresses.
Lightning network isn't adopted at all and is vaporware.
Why do you think dark net markets are moving to Monero and not lightning network?

is xmr the most fudded crypto? i skim through this thread almost daily and always the same things over and over again, seems to be the same in reddit. feels like few people are posting the same shit again and again

>>29564723
rubic, suterusu, an algostable that I jacked off to once

>>29576488
https://moneroocean.blogspot.com/2021/02/ethereum-gpu-miner-setup-options.html

Once I got it running, gpu was reporting back between 80-(shit you not)350 KH - I don’t know what is up but I don’t care - I’ll just do what I can to stack a lil just in case

>>29574458
>can always make paper wallet(s) that have never been connected to the interwebs
Yea, I should probably just quit being lazy now that the value is actually increasing
>>29574726
>NEVER TELL ANYBODY HOW MUCH MONERO YOU HAVE.
Kind of messed up on this part already but oh well
>>29575577
You mean the mnemonic phrase if I store it on PC? I just write it down instead, but I'll keep that in mind if I decide to keep a file back up
But it's kind of hard for me to view it as real money anyway, I didn't invest more than I can afford to lose so I just assume I'm going to lose it eventually. Probably not a good mentality to have lol.

>>29577297
>You mean the mnemonic phrase if I store it on PC? I just write it down instead, but I'll keep that in mind if I decide to keep a file back up
Yeah, writing it down is usually best, I just like having multiple backups

>>29576251
I second this. I also attempted to use kraken and although I believe I followed their wire instructions, I must have fucked something up and it bounced back to me after a week. Kraken’s customer service is email only and takes days to respond. I was up and running with coinbase in almost no time and just buy LTC, send to cakewallet and then exchange there for XMR. Coinbase has a customer service phone number too. I wouldn’t trust Kraken with any large sums of money simply because if something goes wrong, there’s literally nobody you can call.

>>29564723
LTC until it pumps at which point I put it all into XMR
Also bnt because it's a comfy hold

>>29576251
The problem is that all LTC machines near me have exorbitant fees, plus I want to buy a large four figure amount, which means I have to jump through even more hoops

>>29576251
my cake wallet does not have an LTC wallet option, am I missing something?

In for [undisclosed amount]

Which way you guys think btc is heading? I hope it dumps lmao

Any unRAID users here manage to get xmrig working in a Docker?

I feel like I'm so close but I can't figure out why I'm getting this error:
>error: "No block template yet. Please wait.", code: -1[0m

>>29576583
>110 points
yeah, sounds like waking up

>>29576797
yes. but I sure some of it is self-fud to keep the price lower. I've done that myself too

Does anyone know if it is possible to instal CLI alongside the GUI version and point to the same database?

>>29577095
thanks a lot anon. Fuck mining eth directly what a shitcoin

So KuCoin is anonymous under a certain transaction amount?

>>29576715
i meant to say is that it is optional privacy.
>>29577297
yeah be careful about that

>>29576504
>How do you feel now that taproot is gaining default consensus on bitcoin and combined with lightning essentially makes monero yet another pointless alt?
>
>anonymity and privacy is no longer a differentiator. you're obsolete. sorry monerochan.

lol didn't you see Andreas' explanation about this? Bitcoin will NEVER be able to do what Monero can.

>Bitcoin Will Never Be Truly Private Says Andreas Antonopoulos

In a livestream Q&A on Antonopoulos’ YouTube channel on July 7, he said Bitcoin (BTC) was unlikely to ever implement privacy features similar to those used by Monero (XMR).

Antonopoulos said creating such features on a cryptocurrency like BTC “would create an enormous amount of controversy.” In addition, he said the structure of Bitcoin simply doesn’t allow ring signatures and stealth addresses.

“I think what we’re going to see soon is Schnorr, Taproot, and Tapscript, which open the door to a lot of improvements,” Antonopoulos said, “But they still do not involve zero-knowledge proofs or the types of ring signatures and stealth addresses that are done in Monero. Bitcoin is not a privacy coin.”

Bitcoin can be better thought of as pseudonymous rather than fully anonymous, as many transactions on the BTC blockchain can still be traced even with these privacy improvements.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-will-never-be-truly-private-says-andreas-antonopoulos

How do you feel now that Bitcoin is only coasting on brand awareness?

>>29577658
Press the 'Exchange' button. You set up a transaction that will be LTC > XMR and CakeWallet will provide you with an address to send your LTC. That 3rd party service is provided by ChangeNow

>>29578387
ah okay. Somehow I assumed I need to get it in my wallet first, thx anon

>>29577095
What GPU do you have though? A RTX3090 SLI or something?

>>29576504
Last I checked there were a whopping 1 thousand Bitcoin on lightning network. It’s been dropping steadily for 2 years.

>>29579174
Is ther a site where you can see the history of how many btc are in the lightnig network?

>>29577750
i could see it testing 40k for support, if it holds we'll probably see it go back up to 60k, beyond that ionno

>>29577095
Anon- do you mind sharing your mining startup script minus any private info? I'm retarded

>>29579760
Sorry anon, that wouldn't work.

>>29577966
Yep. Once you sync the block chain you can download the other wallet and auto connect.

>>29563337
>XMR Redpill: [YouTube] Monero: Sound Money, Safe Mode (embed) [Embed]
>M1 money supply chart
>as a former med school professor who worked on oncology the exponential math of uncontrolled growth in cancerous tumors is something I think about when I see a plot like this.
Kek, comfy video, getting myself educated on monero, thanks for this general.

>>29581581
welcome med-fren

>>29576251
Can you use fiat with cakewallet? It wasnt clear just looking at their site

>>29576583
yeah bro wtf is this

>>29581581

BASED DR DANIEL KIM-SAMA

>>29578857
Radeon VII & Radeon RX 570 - Linux, got 2 GPUs in the rig and they work together with Pheonix Miner. Using a Ryzen 9 3900x

The thing you really just need to do is use Monero Oceans version of XMRig , its in the help section on their site. Their discord help section is legit too.

>>29564723
Fat boobies.

But seriously, just shit on exchanges, stonks, and physical assets.

>>29577095
Those sound more like ETH hash rates.

>>29582605
>Radeon VII
makes sense now

>>29582404
No, they are not a licensed banking company.

>>29582605
I'm mining eth on my gpu and xmr on my cpu.
50 MH/s ETH (vega 56)
7400-7900 H/s XMR (3600 4.15 GHz)
good?

>>29567003
Good advice here, I agree

>>29566348
Think with a 10 year horizon. You're trying to preserve your wealth for 100 years.

>>29576141
Use Binance or LocalMonero if you're a retard anon.

>>29582974
it might be! I would just check in with the dashboard at moneroocean (unless you are mining the eth to another pool), bc you get an approximate of your payouts, and also you can adjust the settings to be paid out at the min which is 0.1xmr i think

>>29574726
>>29575577
This type of severe autism is what's going to prevent mass adoption.

>>29582605
what's the rate on the 570?
running my 580 but not sure if the rates very good when compared

>>29576141
You need to go into your bank, file wire-approval paperwork (one-time thing) and then provide them with the wiring instructions for any of the half dozen banks Kraken works with lol. It's all right there in the drop-down menus.
>zoomers

>>29584314
Lol this is probably the same shit that people said when Bitcoin was picking up steam, and that had no problem going from “stupid druggie internet coin” to “muh bitcoin stock doin lil sumthin”.

I would sooner trust people who are advocates for privacy (as schizoid as that may seem) and want to protect their wealth vs someone shilling pancake token or dumpling coin

>>29584201
i will switch to moneroocean once i get the payouts from my current pools.

>>29564723
DCR

>>29564723
PRQ. It's going to moon harder than you can imagine once people realize how good the technology is and how much it can still grow

>>29564723
None whatsoever
I believe in this little coin 100%

>>29584327
570 maxes out at like 20 MH/s, and the VII is like 70 MH/s so combined I get ~90

>>29586688
Check'd
Very nice, so I'm doing fairly decent then, doing around 33KHs for my 580 and about 44KHs on my 1080TI

>>29583593
oh cool first time I noticed the black hat inside the monero logo

>>29586314
Can u redpill me on this coin?

>>29586688
if you tweak the VII you could possibly do 100MH/s

>> ONE LAST TIP FOR MINERS ON Monero Ocean

If you are using the ethereum mining that the blog I posted here shows the steps to enable eth mininig for monero ocean to payout xmr

>>> TIP

If you are downloading something at the same time - it appears like the hashrate is higher.. I dunno if this has any real effects, but if it does, i might be making out like a bit of a bandit.

could be placebo

>>29587343
can you help me with some tips?? I am not sure how to

These threads feels so comfy like litecoin generals idk maybe that underdog energy makes it so comfy.

>>29586879
Nice, me too. There is a white hat too, that said!

>>29587595
here is some info: https://github.com/todxx/teamredminer/blob/master/doc/ETHASH_TUNING_GUIDE.txt

I used their guide for vega 56 and took it to 49.5 MH/s. Underclocked, undervolted, HBM overclocked and timings tightened. 140W

>>29579408
https://1ml.com/statistics
And
https://bitcoinvisuals.com/lightning

>>29587285
see redpill in the op, retard

>>29588013
bookmarked both, thanks

>>29588199
>see redpill in the op, retard
You didn’t even look at the post I was replying to. It is you who is the retard.

>>29588778
it looks like I'm the retard indeed. sorry, my bad

>>29570087
I earn more from just letting ALGOs sit in a wallet than I do mining XMR, which is ridiculous.

Is it too late to mine xmr on a basic gaming pc?

>>29584314
>>29585600
Holding any crypto people should be just as paranoid and stress the importance of why you shouldn't do something like tell people how much you have or store your mnemonic phrase in plaintext. Or why you should use a hardware wallet or airgapped machine for your cold wallet. I guess new people and degenerate gamblers might not care as much.
So honestly I'll play bobo and argue that it's a valid argument for why cryptocurrency in general will never reach mass adoption because of what fundamentally defines cryptocurrency. With crypto if you lose access to your keys then they are not recoverable, that's just how they're designed. Maybe I'm not up to speed on some crypto that's different though because I really don't research shitcoins, but if it's different, that's not crypto.
And this will be a rant but I hate the word crypto, digital asset is more accurate imo because crypto has a much broader meaning and xmr is the only one that people actually use as a currency anyway.
Although I'm pretty sure btc is still used for the majority of illicit "crypto" transactions, because the news article reporting the last takedown of a large darknet market said it was the largest in terms of volume ahead of the one that only accepts xmr (though I think at the time of that takedown they did accept btc, and I'm not sure how glowies can even keep track of xmr volume.)
I assume most btc (and maybe even xmr) txs are related to trading/speculation, I would guess the percentage of xmr txs that aren't purely speculative would be much higher. Not that tx count really matters since a lot of it can be spam, but xmr is the only one used as a currency since with most coins a 3rd party service immediately exchanges it for fiat and the fees involved makes it pointless for anyone to use it over their debit/credit card.
But like I said I don't really keep track of new shitcoins too much, I also don't really consider anything non-PoW crypto but that's for another rant.

>>29589840
what are your specs?

>>29590007
Ryzen 1700 first gen
Rx 580 8gb
16 gb ram

>>29590327
that cpu should get you just over .002 xmr/day
you can also mine eth on the gpu and swap to xmr

>>29564723
Just Bitcoin and a bit of ETH that’s mostly used for dapp games

>>29590494
Are there any tools that let me see the estimated power cost of my rig? I want to get some crypto but dont want my power bill to tripple

My state government blocked Kraken and Morphcoin. Do I need to VPN to get Monero?

>>29590327
https://moneroocean.blogspot.com/2021/02/ethereum-gpu-miner-setup-options.html
that link will help you mine xmr on you gpu. teamredminer has amazing guides for optimizing your hashrate.
for cpu mining try to get your memory as fast and tight as possible for optimal hashrate. if you can't do that it's still good to mine.
>>29590724
1700: 100W
580: 200W
roughly

>>29590844
transfer btc/ltc/eth to cakewallet and exchange there

which of these websites (besides Local Monero) let you buy monero directly from traders, without having to transfer money to the exchange before making the deal?

>>29591344
I don't have iOS.

>>29591830
xchangen24yn24b6.onion

>>29590327
>>29590724
try minergate. it can mine monero for you

>>29563337
thoughts on wownero?

>>29591830
it's on android as well

>>29592367
Fun to mine.

>>29592367
>"thoughts on doge?"

Why the fuck it keeps dumping in this bull market?

Is there an infinity bug?

>>29592077
minergate, freewallet.org, changelly.com are all selective scams (they only very occasionally steal people's money) run by the same group. wouldn't trust or use any of them.

>>29593858
Lol u Roger Ver?

https://youtu.be/6WEAVk-Mm0E

>>29593858
We were the best performing coin yesterday retard

Man I'm starting to fall for the FUD. What's the chance the bullrun has already finished and this was the final pump before crypto returns to obscurity?

>>29594871
Even if everything dumps Monero would still be purchased because it has actual use case.

>>29594871
pretty low, seems more like we're consolidating before retesting
personally, i wouldn't mind if the bullrun was over already, then i could scoop up more cheapies in 4-6 months

Im gonna start posting fud i think. Kick some newfrens from the marsbase

>>29594871
Yes, this was the tether exit pump and also there's a gap or 3. And everything is correlated to btc.

>>29594871
yes it's over SELL SELL SELL

>>29597531
>THERES A RED SHOOTING STAR ON THE 5MIN CANDLE. EVERYBODY OUT NAOOWWWW. AAaaaaaaaaaaaAaaaaaaAAAA

SEEEELL! THE FUD WAS RIGHT

IM LOSING SO MUCH MONEY DON"T END UP LIKE ME SELL IMMEDIATELY

Load ze south korea fud

https://en.cryptonomist.ch/2021/02/23/south-koreas-new-regulation-bans-monero-trading/

WHAT THE FUCK
THEY WILL BAN THIS SHIT EVERYWHERE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

It's over.

>>29599970
Ha ha secret green line go up.

>>29600786
link to secret green line plz

>>29600984
Nice try, FBI.

>>29598597
north korea is a better country unironically. at least its churches arent cucked.

It's no use. We're heading for $150. Sell your monegros to me

>>29600984
search local monero...
forget the URL but it's a thing

>>29593858
It had it's pump yesterday, the bears are now testing to see if they can break 200 since the bulls failed to break 225. If it holds XMR will likely crab between those two points until one side forces a breakthrough.

>>29598597
>Load ze south korea fud
>https://en.cryptonomist.ch/2021/02/23/south-koreas-new-regulation-bans-monero-trading/
They already banned it, literally just FUD.

199 eominute

>>29601423
ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh yeaaah!!!!!!!!!!! i would unload a very plump amount of btc if xmr flirted with the mid 100s again

Ok so I already plan on mining this but where do I buy it!?

Actually lowkey excited for the price to drop to 150 so I could start loading.

Wait guys did you see this? What does it mean for monero???

oh shit...

>>29604026
>More monero to buy
>Lower prices to buy it
fucking excellent

>>29604026
It is over, Monero officially a shitcoin.

>>29601380
religion is banned in the PDRK.

>>29604026
>CNBC

>>29604026
>>muh 51% FUD
Can someone find me a double spend transaction anywhere in any Blockchain?

>>inb4 AVAX not talking about

>>29604026
post link

>>29604026
Nice OC

>>29604026
Thanks for sharing sir
I just did the needful and moved everything into 0xMonero

>>29604808
you are from india

>>29604296
no its not. they have churches. google it.

>>29604026
>Arjun

>>29604026
Nice shop, I almost feel like checking to see if it's true

>>29605032
He's from my village actually. He is also a whale holder of 0xMonero. Great guy.

Ignore the shills. XMR will be $1000 by April. Trust the plan.

I apologize this is completely off topic but you guys are the most helpful of all of /biz/

I haven't done any ETH transactions for a while but today I swapped a couple ERC20 shitcoins for ETH on Uniswamp. Etherscan says success, confirmed and approved but my wallet hasn't updated at all I still have the shitcoins in there. Other non-ERC20 coins usually only take a few minutes to update. This was done about an hour ago. Is this usual or is it a problem?

t. Monero holder

>>29595193
this

>>29606011
if etherscan shows it happened then it happened

>>29606238
Thanks

>>29606011
Etherscan? More like etherscaM
Hehehehuehe

>>29593858
>We were the best performing coin yesterday retard
yes more fud plz

>>29604026
brb selling

So XMR is PoW. How will it increase it's value over time ?

>>29604026

Holy shit! Dumping my entire stock rogjt now

>>29604026
Hory shit. Just switched to this new extremely private coin called BTC

>>29603627
read the OP

Everything is up or stable, stock market, pms, btc
This only dumps

Lost so much of my btc value since i bought this shitcoin. Bought at 0.14 btc

Hope it recovers sats to when i bought it

>mini XMR movement while BTC crabs
nice

>>29609174
.014btc*

>>29609174
>calling monero a shitcoin
You’re not gonna make it moonboy fag

"ZEC is better than XMR"

>>29606011
>panic intensifies
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x12a1c9eadbd2e44239b7f572fe671489499c9b54de8e494d22db86512e35efde
I meant to trade xbtc for ETH is that what I did?

>>29609482
kys pajeet no time for your shitty FUD
based XMR thread

>>29608314
How do I read?!?!

>>29609493
>10 dollars in gas just to approve spending on Uniswap
no no no

Xmr isnt a shitcoin but usecase and tech literally dont matter, this is a clown market.

And the fact is i got rekt buying xmr at .014 btc

>>29565619
I love monero but everyone should hold 50% of their stack in BTC

>>29610311
>i got rekt buying xmr at .014 btc
Yikes

>>29566213
Based Canadian friendo. Fuck all the chinks and pajeets buying properties in Canada. Fuck our government for letting them do it too.

>>29587654
Cool

>>29610412
>I love monero but everyone should hold 50% of their stack in BTC

I would if I didn't think it could crash and burn at any moment.

>>29610412
people "diversifying" into shitcoins are a part of the problem

>>29610790
desu i agree. people need to stop relying on shitcoins like btc, eth to 'moon' when they have no fundamentals. i'm only interested in privacycoins nowadays

Drops to $150? I'm not selling.

>>29611569
based

snibbidy snabbidy

>>29563337
I love you, Monero bros. After looking through the threads for every major coin, I have safely determined that this is the only coin community with any intelligence whatsoever. I'm selling all of my shitcoins for more monero soon

>>29589893
Autistic tier post, love it, will reply.
>stress the importance of why you shouldn't do something like tell people how much you have or store your mnemonic phrase in plaintext.
I've been saying that for a couple of years now but people say that I'm exaggerating. Lmao imagine monero and bitcoin become mainstream and so does the practice of storing your keys in a piece of paper. Can you imagine how many home invasions and robberies would happen?
You don't need an airgapped computer. It's valid, but it's quite a bit extreme. You only need an isolated laptop or USB drive that runs Linux and keep all your keys/etc in an Encrypted partition. You can keep offline if you want to use it that way and sign transactions offline to broadcast them on your online computer, or simply turn on WiFi and complete your transaction, then turn it off and that's it. An up to date Linux + an encrypted partition + updated wallets should be safe enough for 99.999%.
>With crypto if you lose access to your keys then they are not recoverable, that's just how they're designed.
For all the people that are completely unable to store their own keys safely, they will use a custodial bitcoin wallet provided by Bank of America(tm). The benefit over the current bank account is that fiat sucks dick. Crypto LETS you be sovereign over your wealth but if you don't want to, whatever.
>And this will be a rant but I hate the word crypto, digital asset is more accurate imo
Lmao it's literally impossible for the word crypto to become mainstream. It will be a slang for sure but when mainstream finance gives up and adopt crypto they will rename it as Digital Assets and Digital Instruments so to show that it's their own thing that they came up with.
>I also don't really consider anything non-PoW crypto
I can consider them crypto but NEVER money and it should never be used as currency but retards are gonna be retards

>>29614015
based

>>29611569
>Drops to $150? I'm not selling.
I'm fucking buying. i have a large buy order at 380k sats atm. i would live to see it go lower

ZEC $500 eoy eat shit XMR trannies

How do you think atomic swaps will affect Monero price in terms of sats?

>>29614858
price go up

>>29614788
I can't think of any reason to use Zioncash over Monero.
>>29614955
checked

>>29614858
>>29614955
yes

Fuck it sucks living in a state with crypto restrictions. 7+ days on coinbase to clear a transaction is too damn high.

>>29614788
literal goy cash

>>29614788
Notice how no one comes to zcash threads to FUD. The reason why is because no one cares enough to go on your thread and tell you the truth:
>your coin is shit
>no one respects it as a privacy coin enough to use it on the dark web
>people who are using it apparently aren’t even aware how to use the privacy features on it (https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/research-shows-that-criminals-using-zcash-in-the-dark-web-dont-know-how-to-use-its-anonymityl-202005082300))

Obviously you felt compelled enough to come here and shill your shitcoin though.

Monero is only used by criminals.

>>29615769

I wish I had more money to buy more Monero.

Maybe I am retarded but I genuinely believe XMR is the most accurate reflection of the true value of crypto.

What exactly does 1 ETH or 1 BTC do to in practice? XMR has an actual use case in terms of anonymity.

Can I make a cold wallet without ever connecting to the internet with something like
https://iancoleman.io/bip39/
Where I would only need to store then mnomic seed?
Or does XMR require the stat and view private keys not just mnomic seed.
If I cannot use the method above, how can I make a cold wallet?

>>29610311
I don't think you should buy Monero if you don't believe in that the fundamentals will win out long term. It seems obvious to me (and I suspect many others in this thread) that, as the only crypto that sees actual, non-speculative use on a daily basis, Monero will inevitably grow (especially once the speculative bubble pops). Unless other cryptos can actually prove they have a working use case, their value is purely driven by speculation that someday, somehow, they may be useful. Monero is useful today.

>>29617151
>https://iancoleman.io/bip39/
https://www.monero.how/how-to-safely-hold-monero-in-cold-storage
moneroaddress.org

>>29617212
le based

Guys is it cool in the XMR fren club to use a ledger or is it considered cringe?

>>29609493
if you're using metamask click add token and add the contract address, which is 0xecbf566944250dde88322581024e611419715f7a

>>29617702
>https://etherscan.io/tx/0x12a1c9eadbd2e44239b7f572fe671489499c9b54de8e494d22db86512e35efde
but it looks like you didnt actually buy it, you have to approve and buy in 2 different txs

>>29617914
The future of finance

>>29617674
>oops your purchase info was hacked
Meh, go for it. Your personal privacy is your prerogative.
XMR privacy chads are making their their own hardware wallets with encrypted drives on a linux USB drive.

>>29618223
I thought the Chad move was 12 separate paper wallets buried randomly across the 7 continents

>>29616144
>soon btc will be priced in xmr
Do we have a name for the lowest digit of monero? Monitas?

>>29616144
>What exactly does 1 ETH or 1 BTC do to in practice?
Capital flight from red China. Chinks mine ASICs, Chinks pump the price, Chinks send wallet contents overseas where Der Poohrer can't touch them.

>>29618342
vaccoom seal them of course so they dont rot by moisture

>>29618407
Moniglets.

>>29618407
ponies or fluffs. just like sats or vits

>>29618504
lmao

>>29618453
People actually use engraved steel.
That butboy faggot on YouTube has engraved steel passcodes in a safety deposit box then the engraved steel addresses in a safety deposit box in another county

Hey guys

trading for monero and this input is taking a long time. I looked at the parts of the blockchain they claim points to them sending it to me, and when i decode with my address and private key I do see the monero amount that was promised to me.

a little new to crypto but with electrum the wallet i was sending BTC with instantly knew it was receiving before any confirmations. is monero not like that? does the decryption showing the amount prove that I should just be patient or is that not enough and they're trying to fuck me

>>29618407
https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/denominations.html

>>29618504
Lol
>>29618533
>ponies
I dig it

>>29614788
ZtalinCash? Not even once.

Ztalincash! It's a cypherpunk money... But with taxes! And the privacy is imaginary instead of real!

>>29614486
>custodial bitcoin wallet provided by Bank of America(tm)
Yea it's kinda sad, and it won't just be for security but also because btc can't scale.

>>29618806
I vote for naming the total supply number of moneros at a given time a Monerochanero

1 sat equivalent should be 1 mon

>>29614486
>Digital Assets and Digital Instruments
>DADI
Oh man I can already see the jokes.

>>29617914
Thanks I eventually figured it out.
>>29618129
This

>>29618801
this may be retardation on my part guys, excuse me
but will i have to first download the whole blockchain before my the monero program even realizes there was a transaction? there's still a synching above my balance with 39k blocks to go

>>29620272
Yes.

>>29620436
Stop giving out wrong information anon
>>29620272
You don’t have to download the block chain. It’s recommended for the best privacy but you can connect to a remote node if you don’t mind your IP address being read by the node operator. When you connect to the node you use their blockchain you scan transactions with your wallet’s private key.

On the GUI wallet you can create multiple receive wallet address for an account, but it seems seems when you want to send xmr it uses your primary address.
Does hidding your account address only matter when receiving xmr and not sending?

I just tried to buy XMR on my local exchange and found out they have extra KYC requirements for buying privacy coins, ie. you go on a blacklist and get v& the next day.

>>29620921
When you send monero your wallet address (the one you give out to receive Monero) has nothing to do with the transaction and it doesn’t appear in the blockchain.
Your main address (the one that begins with a 4) and your sub addresses (they begin with 8) all receive Monero in the same account.

>>29611342
This is noble but this kind of thinking wont make you rich. BCH is much more useful than BTC but it has only crashed in value vs btc.

Dogecoin will outgain xmr, its a clown market!!

People investing in xmr do it for the cause because it wont make you rich like other cryptos

>>29621543
Ok, Roger, understood. Now you can stop shilling your shitcoin.

>>29618801
Feather wallet is more like electrum. You scan someone else's copy of the blockchain without strong it and verifying it yourself. Your wallet will know about transactions once it has scanned the corresponding block with its private view key. If your wallet is fully synced it will see the transaction as soon as it's in the mempool.

>>29619328
how about 1 fluff

>>29621301
Is there anything wrong with creating unlimited receive addresses?
What is the general practice? Just using one address per platform?
After you assign a specific number of receive addresses do you just cycle back through your list?
It seems like making any more than 10 or 20 addresses is excessive.
Would it be normal to have 100+ receive addresses? Does it not matter?

>>29620839
>synchronized and monero is there
well thankfully my retard episode is over, sorry for shitting up the thread

>>29618407
roommate asked what was so funny in here

>>29623636
one subaddress for each party that you don't want linking you to anything else, and then send stuff to another wallet after receiving it anyways because why not. also i believe with enough effort it's possible to link two subaddresses to the same wallet address, there was a breaking monero episide about it

>>29624060
it's all good anon. It's confusing.
>>29623636
there is nothing wrong with creating addresses. you can create an infinite amount of them if you like.
I'd recommend having a specific address for each person you deal with, but its up to you. Don't use the same address over and over again, as if you always use the same address somebody could build a profile around you with that recipient address, and later connect all the times Monero was sent to that address if the adversary had access to kyc records.

>>29618533
Its would be nics after Nicolas van Saberhagen.

When the market dumps tomorrow Monero will pump. I can feel it.

>>29620942
What fucking exchange is this so I can never use it

>b-but muh tail emissions mean there are literally infinite moneros!!
fudfaggots don't understand time
>b-but potentially, given infinite time...
and potentially bitcoin code can be changed to have 'infinite' coins and potentially you could stop sucking dicks like your life depended on it

>>29563337
Beware of big localmonero vendors, some of them are very obvious fed plants.

>>29628453
what makes them 'very obvious'?

My fucking tax return needs to get here I need to buy this dip for fucks sake this is my ticket out of clown town I am so close to the 18.7 club

Should I buy another fat stack frens

>>29629161
I don’t like to think stupid questions exist but that is dangerously close.

>>29629038
What is significance of 18.7?

>>29629270
One one millionth of the supply at the start of tail emission. I’ll still be accumulating some after, but I’ll be looking for other projects.