/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>29564796
>If tesla and space x is all abour tech
>Why is it such a personality cult?
Connect the dot faggot

>>29564796
>He's waking up

>>29564796
What a gorgeous man.

>>29564884
Correlation =! Causation. Personality cults are always a bad sign. If marketing doestn work with the tech itself its a red flag IMHO.

>>29565119
> Personality cults are always a bad sign.
> Apple, Tesla, SpaceX etc etc..

Are you retarded?

>>29565236
>Apple, Tesla, SpaceX
Those companies have working products

>>29565119
You might be right, but personality cults make retards follow mindlessely and massively.
I expect a TSLA kind of growth for Cardano

>>29565303
Literally this. Space X wasn't hyped BEFORE they landed their rockets.

>>29564796
it isn't you desperate fudder. recent twitter poll asking if people would vote for apple to take the dev lead if they said they'd take the project to the next level, vs IOHK... poll came out overwhelmingly in favor of apple. nice disinfo shill faggot

He's so fucking annoying. ALGO is superior. The less marketing the better. We want institutions and companies buying not normies

>>29565119
eth has a personality cult, cardano does not

>>29565303
epic tier salty cope fud, Cardano has a working product

guy looks like 50

>>29565504
>algo superior
bft protocol... not even close

>>29565502
cringe. why are you just parroting what your cammodel CEO said yesterday? learn to think for yourself.
>>29564796
vapourware scam. charles has such a repulsive personality.

>>29565504
It shows you know nothing about basic economics and marketing

>>29564901
IOTA, ADA, HBAR, BNT.

Everyone fucking hates ETH, unilaterally and almost without exception. Bag holders especially who have been trapped in the mid-1000's for two months now after everyone with a brain cashed out at 1,900.

ETH killers and utility tokens, are where the smart money of 2021 is. Invest in the networks and the tools devs will use on those networks (GRT, LINK, PRQ (when u need a wallet)).

>>29565944
I agree that ETH is legacy tech, fees are not sustainable, better options are soon production ready. Huge IOTA Chrysalis mainnet update comes next month, cant wait.

>>29566249
there are too many eth killers.
I'm not going to use 10 different uniswaps.

>>29566249
I don't understand this argument. If projects like RBC implement L2 soon the ETH fee problem is solved overnight and ETH can scale to any price.

>>29566249
Yeah, I'm very excited. Between that and the upcoming mainnet launch on ADA, these two coins are about to do very well. I like HBAR a lot and my long money is on them, but they won't moon in the short-term. They don't market or shill very much at all, they just form partnership after partnership with multi-billion dollar companies without any press at all; such a sleeper coin.

>>29565798
facts are facts anon and those facts directly contradict your argument. Ethereum is the cult coin.
>vaporware
and yet pic-related btfo's that right out of the water. and cardano has the most development velocity on the core protocols of any project by far and has held that velocity for YEARS. and Cardano beat mETH to proof of stake despite ethereum having a 1 year head start, and cardano is delivering on everything while mETH is backtracking and abandoning their promised ETH 2.0 deliverable of sharding... because the core devs cannot get there. I can taste your fear.

>>29565832
charles shilling cardano like a shameless pajeet is not "marketing"

>>29566324
>>29566433
The race for the ETH killer is still on. Maybe (!!) ETH 2.0 or L2 solutions can fix ETH problems. But they have to compete with real gen. 3 DLTs, that solve all problems naturally and by design on L1.

Btw no fees >>> low fees (check gif)

>>29566324
Stay poor then, don't think ahead at all

>>29566433
Dapps having to fix fundamental problems with their host network through their own development efforts seems retarded compared to just having a network that is good to begin with.

Idk why you guys cling to ETH so hard, just SELL and get in early on the next one.

>>29566886
I understand it's a fundamental problem and oversight, but I think the amount of infrastructure that's already built on the ETH network means it's here to stay for the medium term (3-10years)
>>29566833
Yeah, no fees at all would be better obviously, but projects like Polygon and Rubic are promising fees that are 10,000% less than what we currently have on uniswap.

>>29567188
>I understand it's a fundamental problem and oversight, but I think the amount of infrastructure that's already built on the ETH network means it's here to stay for the medium term (3-10years)
Well they can just copy paste everything lol

>>29567278
I was under the impression that it wasn't that simple to copy-paste everything onto a new network, but I admit I don't know much about the technical aspect.

>>29567188
I don't think it's going anywhere either, but what do you think is going to grow more over the next 5yr? The already matured and priced-in network that everyone's using or it's up-and-coming competitors?

It's the same conundrum for new fags who want to buy BTC now; they'll probably have to wait around for 2-3yr before they see Bitcoin triple again. Better to buy alts, the buses for BTC and ETH have left the station.

>>29567416
Hedera, for instance, suposedly ports directly to ETH, so Dapps can switch over with minimal hassle.

>>29564796
hes a great man that wants to do great thing, im in it for his dream and legacy i couldnt care less about price. It will prolly make me a multi millionaire but im in it for the vision of a better world first

>>29567188
Even if fees are lowered with yet another project, ETH still cannot be used for other usecases like data anchoring like for example IOTA. Germany already started to track Covid vaccination and tests data on the Tangle (Check UBIRCH + Zebra). Imagine how many kinds of data can be anchored on a DLT, how many times a day and for how many millions of people. Even small fees add up substantially. Even more important: The feeless option simply exists. Free market will decide what will be used.

>>29567416
I was exaggerating, other chains use different languages.
But people can still inspect the code and port it to their chain's language of choice.

>>29567737
Your utopic, defi fantasies will be crushed under the boot of institutional money and international political entities. Keep LARPing like a good guy with you money so Charles can send it to Africa.

ADA is the final form of welfare.

>>29567799
Interesting anon, I still believe ETH will be around for a while simply because it's early adoption. I'll look into the projects you mentioned though they sound promising.

>>29567737
If you like good visions: IOTA is trying to give data sovereignty back to us people. Since you can encrypt everything immutably on the Tangle and only decrypt against payment, data-marketplaces will give YOU the money for your data, not Facebook or Google anymore

>>29565561
no it's not. ETH has a vibrant ecosystem that people are excited about... ADA literally has nothing except some cult leader spouting how they have the new best thing just around the corner

>>29567986
>Competes with Facebook and Google
This is bearish

>>29567988
ETH is a tiny backwater with absolutely TERRIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE... and this Charles-attack FUD thread is full of fearful ETH bagholders... I wonder why. RIP ETH

>>29565633
where?

>>29568151
Data-marketplaces are the next big thing (together with NFTs). IOTA penetrates both markets naturally by its L1 design. No 100 "utility tokens" or whatnot needed, just one elegant base-layer.

>>29568247
literally half the coins in the top 100 are run on ethereum, and thousands of others. what is run on ADA? what projects are developing for ADA? even Polkadot had projects in the pipeline before it launched like SORA...not even trying to fud here, it's just reality

Most of the the cultists on social media appear to be bots that he made himself.
The entire thing is a marketing scheme. These are bots that are activated using web crawlers searching for negative sentiment about Cardano

>>29567988
Trust the plan bro. Two more weeks

>>29565467
No, it was shilled to early investors instead.

>>29568689
In 5 days native assets fork goes live. Hardfork combinator was initiated today.

>>29568498
and it is still a iny backwater. you just don't get it. the tide has already shifted. only 30% of dapps deployed last year were on ETH and the share is shrinkong. also this
>>29566835
ETH is the friendster of crypto, and here you are, fearfully fudding in a Cardano attack thread

>>29565119
>Correlation =! Causation
kek plebbit tier response detected. fuck off back there faggot

Tech isn't even great..

>>29571131
>Auto-heal from 51% attacks
What other blockchains can do this without forking?

>>29571131
Also, you want to keep things as simple and clean as possible when a lot of value is at stake. Which is hard.

>>29564796
Tech isn’t released just yet. Some of it is. Some of it isn’t. Most people can’t go to GitHub and spend 4 days reading code in a computer language they don’t understand, so Charles explains things. He’s very articulate which is incredibly rare for a mathematician. He also likes to smell his own farts, and you can tell. He wants to throw his face on everything in a scene where that isn’t considered the norm — much like Aphex Twin did. Only recently did he understand the mistake of this in crypto when a bunch of dumb normies fell for scams and sent him death threats. It may be a good idea it may not. Cardano, for me, is mostly an experiment in what happens in a person when they become unfathomably rich and create a technology that can burn peoples life savings in seconds if they’re dumb.

>>29572594
Sometimes Charles arguments seem like a rehashing of things everyone should know if they’re an adult reframed in a way to sound revelatory to dumb people.

Of course being a halfway decent human being should be the norm, but people are dumb as hell. He continuously fails to understand how stupid people actually are. For crypto to have normie adoption and for people to not immediately be scammed infinitely would take a lot of shoulder pads and helmets. If the third world gets musknet this will be a thousand times worse. Billionaire doesn’t understand systematic poverty’s effects on man. He literally think Africans are going to take out loans and respectfully pay them back, when really he’s setting up the biggest system to scam technologically illiterate boomers ever made.

AVAX, SOL, XTZ, and a ton of other smart contract platform use DPoS like cuckdano and actually work yet have 1/10 or less of the market cap. Tell me how this shitcoin isn't overvalued.

>>29564796
Anyone else think this feels like NEO..? Am I the only one..?