/biz/ - Business & Finance

Spoonfeeding session:

Security:
ABFT - the highest degree of security a consensus algorithm can provide.
(https://help.hedera.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000674097-What-is-aBFT-))

Speed:
Near-perfect efficiency in bandwidth usage and consequently can process 100's of thousands of TPS in a SINGLE SHARD.
https://hedera.com/hh_whitepaper_v2.1-20200815.pdf
With sharding (launching 2021 https://hedera.com/roadmap)) basically unlimited tps. The Hedera network already processes the most transactions of any network (https://blocktivity.info/)) (Sort by Tx 24hours).

Cost: Transactions will always cost $0.0001. Yes, price stability in a cryptocurrency how terrible! I'm sure mega-corporations hate a fixed fee just as much as you do.

Decentralization: Currently semi-centralized, using permissioned nodes to run the network. Will eventually be fully decentralized meaning you and your boyfriends can run permissionless nodes and make money through staking.

https://help.hedera.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000665138-Is-the-Hedera-network-decentralized-

>>29553971

I'd rather get on iota. And possibly avalanche because it is more community focused.

Also post formula of mathematical proof.

>>29553971
I own 500k HBAR.

How much is a make it stack

>>29553971
Psst just because they use Google cloud doesnt mean they are partnered faggot

>>29554524
Are you fucking stupid? Google is on their GOVERNING COUNCIL

>>29554470

Suicide stack: 10-25k

Make it stack: 70k-150k.

Rothschild stack: 500k+

>>29554524

What do you think council members do exactly? Don't be retarded. They literally steer the direction of the network.

>>29554380
Congrats hashchad you're gonna make it, when did you get in?

>>29553971
i keep looking at this one and wondering what it would be like to buy

>>29555062
2 cents. It’s been a long but comfy hold.

All on a ledger, not touching until 2025 at least. Have a 6 figure job in finance so won’t need the funds.

>>29553971
Do you really think patents can stop decentralized applications from forking the code?

I like HBAR but that bit is silly.

>>29555362

3 cents here, college student. Was lucky enough to be making money interning through 2020 to get a nice 150k stack.

What made you jump in so early?

>>29555439

Ah yes, because so many institutions and people are going to put their money into a company that is being sued into the ground by hedera.

>>29555644
Friend told me to read the white paper and he was fascinated by the tech. I read the entire white paper and did a bit of research then pulled the plug. It’s not a lot of money to me and there’s a chance of becoming so rich from this so it’s well worth it. This coin will be number 1 when all is said and done.

>>29554929
What's the price prediction on that?? I just wanna be happy

>>29555726

HBARs have a requirement to be expensive enough so that no bad actor can secure 1/3 of the total supply.

So we are talking about a multi-trillion dollar marketcap one day. Since all tokens are scheduled to be released at the end 15 years, it is a certainty to assume that within the next 10 years the absolute minimum price will be $30.

EOY we are looking at a comfortable $5 if all goes well. Coinbase listing is imminent, Paypal is likely going to partner up with hedera. We just had the biggest bank in Africa coun the council today and I expect CBDC announcements this year.

>>29554524
kek retard

>>29555717

Good friend you got there, and good job recognizing the value through the whitepaper. Most people are far too lazy and dumb to comprehend what we've invested in.

Eftpos Australia will launch a node this year.

will buy more if it it hits 0.09
then hold for a long time
will this be the coin that will pull the plug on ETH?

>>29556343

Yes, It decimates Eth and kills the other Eth-killers.

Projects have already started to migrate onto the Hedera network from Ethereum.

>>29556017
Celsius have it in it's soon to be added list, too

>>29555704
Company...? Decentralized projects exist on their own.

>>29556479
>rare sneaker app
yep, its time to sell and gtfo

>>29556132
This friend put $20k in Bitcoin in 2010. He’s In his 30s and his net worth is outrageous. The only things he’s ever invested in is Bitcoin and Hedera. He has 2 or 3 mil HBAR, something like that.

I made the mistake of my life not listening to him in 2010. Before his Bitcoin riches we were on the same level financially.

What colour will your Aventador be?

>>29556574
"Hedera has permissioned governance, yet open consensus input. This means that, while applications built on Hedera may be open source, the underlying codebase is closed source and cannot be altered or forked except by a vote of the Hedera Hashgraph Council"

>>29553971
>Spoonfeeding started around local top

Makes you think

I just bought 10k @$.12x . Late to the party, and was very apprehensive about using okcoin, but pulled the trigger anyways.

>>29556610

The hedera token service went live only a couple weeks ago. You'll be seeing ERC-20 tokens migrate en-masse or become obsolete.

Do you enjoy those $40 transaction fees or something?

>>29556978
Decent wallet for hbar? The official one is broken and not recommended by the devs.

you can't make a fucking wallet without showing your ID and registering lmao. you need verification from another wallet

its crap. nano already works just as fast and cheap, why bother with this shit?

>>29557033
Nano is still blockchain so still not 100% proof of stake therefore banks and corps won’t come near it, unlike hedera.

Plus nano is still a lot slower than hedera. And blockchain tech will become pretty obsolete as hedera reigns.

>>29557030
there is no decent wallet. all of them require registration/verification except for atom wallet which is utter crap

you could use atom wallet, export keys and use myhbarwallet but then your private keys are exposed to atom wallet which is insecure as fuck.

most retarded coin i have ever seen

>>29556781

One for each colour of the rainbow to honor the globohomo overlords that bring will bring hashchads unimaginable wealth through it's adoption.

Enjoy ze bugs no coiners.

>>29557033
Also ask yourself. Why is google, Boeing, IBM, dentons, the BIGGEST bank in South Africa all up in hedera to their knees?

Literally no bank gives a fuck about nano coin. Google doesn’t give a shit about nano coin or whatever other shit blockchains you can think of.

Use your common sense.

>>29557030

I use Atomic wallet and a Nano Ledger. Atomic wallet is fine don't listen to the other retard.

>>29557132
I don't mind kyc desu. I pay my taxes and everything. (Don't like it, but I do) I believe you can support crypto with a public face.
I'm also not a fan of how centralized and globohomo this product appears to be, but anything supported by fortune 500 is going to be full on white genocide anyways. Does that mean i can't make a few shekels off it?

>>29557228
Thanks broseph.

>>29553971
this will land in the top 10 in this cycle
the only use case of blockchain is bitcoin
ethereum is fucked

>>29557309
Nah Bitcoin is way too slow. And still not 100% proof of stake. It’s a rubbish coin basically just being held up due to being the first crypto.

Hedera is 100% proof of stake, 1000x faster than Bitcoin, consumes less energy and has a fixed fee of 0.00001 USD regardless of the transaction size.

Bitcoin is complete trash compared to Hedera Hashgraph. Like comparing a mouse to a lion.

>>29557309

Spot on.

I see bitcoin sticking around sort of like an antique collectable. Anything else using blockchain will go down the toilet, deservedly.

Hbar is a top 5 coin, it's just a matter of time. Let's not forget this project is barely over a year old.

Can't beat unbeatable patented fundementals.

>>29553971
>intergenerational wealth

>>29557406
>0.00001 USD
But hod do you pay that fee if 1 HBAR cost like 12 cents and can't scale down?

I’m so glad this coin is getting good recognition. Not a single soul was speaking of this coin last year when I bought.

It’s not just a btc or eth killer it’s literally a blockchain killer.

By the time most realize this, they’ll be priced out. This coin will rally ferociously.

>>29557509
But how do I acquire interdimensional wealth?

They're not going to do anything retarded like redistribute 50% tokens to Africans or anything? Only thing that makes me nervous with anything like this.

>>29557510

HBARs are made up of smaller denominations.

Pic related.

>>29557623

That's where the council comes in handy, no decision like this can be made without a council majority vote.

We're in safe hands.

>>29557672
Isn't the council composed exclusively of entities that believe white identity is the greatest threat humanity has ever faced?
I want to make some money, but I get nervous as shit when any products mission is to lift up the developing world (cardano, everest, etc). This is the first project I've ever bought into that had that "stake holders over share holders" vibe.

>>29557800
Honestly whether or not you invest will make 0 difference to the price, quite literally.

Insitutional money is very very big in hedera hashgraph. Retail traders are few and far between.

You will be priced out eventually.

>>29557932
Already bought.

How HBAR is better than FTM? It is mooned recently and also have better tokenomics than HBAR.
Explain to me why it is better.

>>29557800

This project's primary concern is to bring a much needed secondary layer onto the internet, providing accountability and transparency. It's role is the most fundamental project in the 21st century, making the digitization of everything actually feasible... for better or for worse.

It has a clear purpose, and it's not to bring running water to Africa.

You guys see that price action in the last hour? Bullish af

>>29553971
Beware of long-term boomer bagholders who bought the hype 2 years ago taking advantage of the curreny environment. You’re fixing to get dumped on.
>>29558086

>>29558240
Old refuted FUD. Go along.

No devs have dumped any coins. They can’t without council approval and it’s a process that can take years according to Leemon.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>29558100

There is a patent on Gossip about gossip and virtual voting by Hedera. So sooner or later it will bite Fantom if they are copying it.

Governance is one of the most important part of the network. Hedera is governed by the top 39 corporations from around the world. These represents different sectors.

Look at the applications being built on Hedera. COVID19 Vaccine tracking, Coupon Bureau, Medical Records, Valid rumors about CBDC

In addition given Fantom is open source and does not have a distributed governance model, there is the potential for the DLT to fork.

>>29553971
Dont understand shit about fuck but you sounds convincing so ill throw 10k in HBAR
Godspeed anon

>>29558321
You’ve been warned. I have no stake to fud. This is from my own independent research. If you heard it from somewhere else then it’s telling someone else came up with the same exact conclusion.
Telling if you ask me. Ignore at your own peril.

>>29558372
I wasn't asking for reddit repost.

>>29553971
>27.5b treasury tokens
Yeah no

>>29558451
Your FUD is meaningless anon. Go ask yourself why you’re still a virgin at 30

>>29558491
Fuck off loser. You know shit little cunt

>>29558518
Virgin virgin virgin

Even if you made it on crypto you’ll still never cum inside a vagina

>>29557228
Atomic is actually a good wallet, but the UI is ugly af

You guys convinced me to just move all my Loom to Hbar for a little 20k stack. I was holding Loom because I was waiting for them to go from Coinbase Pro to Coinbase regular for that boost. But who knows when it'd happen. HBAR will probably go to Coinbase too after the IPO.

>>29558518
>>29558558
guys please, do i buy or not???

>>29558558
As someone who's cum in 2 totally different vaginas, in 3 different mouths, and 5 different right hands and 1 left hand, i want to know how I'm looking for eoy?

>>29558478
>50b tokens

Wtf lmao

>>29558454

I don't do Fantom, you asked for info, It's good info.

>>29557030
I use Exodus and just did an expensive swap within the app.

>>29558710
>>29558478

Old FUD, tokens released over 15 YEARS. No dumping unless governing council approval which is never going to happen.

>>29556978
Do you have any argument apart from "muh cheap fees"?
Literally all so-called ETH killers are jerking themselves off because of cheap fees which makes sense as nobody uses their shit network.
pic related

hbar shills seems like the same guys shilling for bao

>>29558836
It's it burger friendly? My new thing is buying things that are virtually impossible for my countrymen to get, but will likely hit coinbase.

If it's so awesome why can't I buy it anywhere?

>>29558901
It literally uses a patented new tech that no other crypto uses.

You can’t be this stupid lol

>>29558901
Fees on hedera are cheap though, it is a fixed fee unlike other competitors

Spoonfeed harder. How does this have a "fixed value of 0.0001 USD" if I'm looking at the value changing on the chart right now?

>>29558959
There's no KYC but if you're in NYC you'll have to use VPN just when doing swaps.

>>29558938
Bre if they’re partnered with big corpos it’s almost a surefire up. I’m gonna do some quick research but if it’s with million dollar corpos it will blow up. Think about all the internet advertising and shit

>>29553971
>all this shit talk
>doesn't even understand what a blockchain is
>calls his centralized scam "cryto"

Can this piece of shit coin finally move?

>>29558980
>shilling your shitcoin by calling potential buyers stupid
Yeah pass.

>>29559631
Oh no pajeet plese please put your precious 300 rupees in hedera even though institutions are putting millions everyday.

Idiot.

>>29559424
go find a "finance" coin named after a fruit.

debunk this shit
https://youtu.be/hIyL3d68Cg0?t=1027

>>29560081
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/hashgraph/comments/l85ozo/the_many_mistakes_made_by_guy_coin_bureau_in_his/

Old shitcoin, 15b tokens locked to be dumped over the next few years.
This is 10 times the dump of Sergey every week, imagine investing in this

>>29560406
15 years.

By which point all of blockchain will be obsolete and hedera will be number 1

>>29559424
devs have tens of billions of coins they dump regulary

>>29560550
This, it’s one giant slow exit scam, they also pay the devs/team in hbars rofl. They’re also still distributing saft1 tokens that were .001c

>>29560550
Haven’t dumped a single coin.

Based.
Just broke the 100k stack Mark last night
Wgmi iykyk

Amazon prime lead endorses HBAR.

Amazon, PayPal. What’s next?

This coin is literally going to destroy blockchain. Look at the FUD right above me. Biz holders getting scared lol

>>29559424
It looks like it will never move. Gods fucking damn this shitcoin.

>>29556170
Dd

>>29553971
>DUDE CORPORATE PARTNERSHIPS LMAO
let me introduce you to a little shitcoin called VECHAIN. https://vechaininsider.com/partnerships/a-complete-list-of-vechain-partnerships/

>>29553971
I'm already all in HBAR anon. Glad you're redpilled on Hbar as well. Biz doesn't want to listen. I've tried shilling it to biz since August. You'll get the typical FUD: centralized, shitcoin, VC scam, etc. They just don't want to hear it.

We probably need a Hashgraph general thread where the hashchads hang out

https://cointelegraph.com/news/hedera-makes-inroads-in-africa-as-standard-bank-group-becomes-node-operator

Africa's biggest bank just joined the council which is nice

>>29561424
Hence why I grilled them on their willful ignorance. Hopefully I got a couple to actually do their homework to pull their heads out their asses.

>>29561030
>>29559424

>you guys are the laziest, most entitled, and least patient bunch of 'people' I've encountered.

Patience being the key word. If you're un-retarded enough to comprehend this tech you wouldn't care about it's short term performance.

>>29558612

Hedera recently finished integrating with the Rosetta API, a requirement to be hosted on Coinbase.

Coinbase stopped onloading new coins after the XRP SEC debacle not to jeopardize their upcoming IPO. Afterwards, I fully expect HBAR to be one of the first to be taken aboard.

It's XRP of 2017, but with REAL partnerships and usecases. The council members (Google, LG etc) all signed the LLC agreement, so there is no "muh fake partnership".

Will go on an epic run soon.

>>29562186
Coinbase onboarded NMR and UMA after XRP though, but maybe that was just because they got so far down the approval process to back out.

>>29562220
The did avax too a week ago

>>29555362
Pretty fucking based. I must say

>>29560881
Pretty big. Good find anon.

Hashgraph is dogshit. They tried to poach IOTA's lead developer and he told them to fuck off.

They have some kind of onion structure vibes going on at the moment. The inner core is fast (and also what all the marketing material is based on), but few nodes. Hence speed. The outer layer is slow, but accessible to public. So they are cheating. The software is contemporary bft.

>>29556846
I used to shill back when it was 3 cents and only got 5 replies tops, only discord spammers get attention here

>>29560881
If people read this article and still don’t invest, they are destined for poverty.

https://www.morningstar.com/news/pr-newswire/20210127da53187/australias-national-debit-operator-eftpos-joins-hedera-governing-council-and-will-run-aussie-hedera-network-node

>>29560881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_AWQW41Vu8
this tokenized gig economy system is going to be as if created by satan himself and i say bring it on

>>29564147
Government digital currency seems dystopian end of times but oh well if it makes me money I'll keep my stack.

>>29557132
I used a ledger with atom to create my account and avoid kyc. Your seed phrase is on your ledger just used atom to create the account then hook up your ledger. Never user atom again.

i didnt read a single post in this thread
not buying your globohomo token
thanks