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>>29371062

>>29371062

>>29371375
Deano sounds based desu

Most of my friends that did A-levels went onto study at top universities but are now living with their parents after struggling to get jobs.

On the other hand, people I used to know that left school after GCSEs to do college, apprenticeships or even working at fucking Tescos now have their own houses, cars and even children.

How the fuck?

>>29370879
I don't know who these cunts are, but "she" looks like IT from the Stephen King novel

>>29371660
Deano lives on a financial knife edge

He has a few hundred quid buffer between him and default in his various loans, his house and car would be gone if he lost his job.

beta university goers find that level of risk unacceptable

>>29371660
The UK is designed to keep poor people poor and punish those who try to rise above their birth-assigned social class. More generally, I don't know how old you are but it's pretty normal for people to take a while to settle into the job market. Presumably the apprenticeship types have already moved past that point, and people fresh out of university haven't.

>How the fuck?
How do you think Deano does it? On finance.

>>29370879
Regarding the actual topic of working-class debt being sustainable. I'm talking out of my ass, if someone has actually informed opinions feel free to correct me.

I don't know about the UK specifically, but I know that in my yuropoor country the amount of people who are unable to make payments on their debts has increased over the last few years. It turns out making everything payable monthly rather than in one lump sum is more profitable because a significant proportion of people are terrible at finances and won't think anything of paying $10/month for two years though they couldn't pay $200 for it up front. The bills add up quickly.

It's usually sustainable as long as you keep your job and no major mishaps happen. But long-term, you don't build savings. It cements you into the rat race forever, because the moment you stop for a moment you're insolvent. A significant proportion of the population have no savings to speak of.

>>29371062

>>29372036
>The UK is designed to keep poor people poor and punish those who try to rise above their birth-assigned social class.
That's false.
Any working class person in britain can easily move up to middle/upper-middle class with some effort (assuming there aren't any other problems i.e. familial issues, mental health, disability etc.) Bricklaying/plumbing are really well-paid professions, but most of them spend their paycheck literally 2 days after getting paid and remain in the working class rather than building wealth.

British commoners are absolutely awful at managing money.

>>29371375
i feel for deanos

>>29370879
Bongs are euronigger tax cattle. Vile subhumans draggins us all down with them.

GAS THE GOYIM BASED KIKES NOW

>>29372944
>It's usually sustainable as long as you keep your job and no major mishaps happen. But long-term, you don't build savings. It cements you into the rat race forever, because the moment you stop for a moment you're insolvent. A significant proportion of the population have no savings to speak of.
This is why every single hiccup post-1995 is also a financial crisis. When you encourage the entire population of your country to leverage themselves to 15-20x their annual earnings, you are asking for trouble. Bad things will always happen, whether wars, plagues, famines, floods, etc etc etc. Now every one of these disasters becomes a global financial catastrophe.

>>29373324

I don't understand how people fail at managing money, I can't fucking understand it. I rent, live alone, only earn 18K a year and manage to save. Studying to become a Cloud architect, fucking mongloids everywhere

>>29373954
Where do you live? I managed to get a graduate cloud engineer job in London that pays double that but half of my salary will probably go towards rent when I have to move there.

>>29373954
>rent
>earn 18k
>live alone
These fucking mongloids

>>29374273
Exactly. I can't imagine it's worth it to be living alone at that salary. People that make more than that working retail or in McDonalds.

Welcome to the Deanoville

>>29373324
Sure, trades make sense for a lot of people. It's just that while I think plumber and bricklayer are fine jobs, I'd very much classify that as working class. Especially in the UK where you still have things like royalty and nobility kicking about, class is more than just how much money you make, though of course there's a strong correlation.

If you try to get your kid a good private education, that's a lot of money. If you try to go into university, that's a lot of money. Unless you can rely on parents for support or work during university (and many university courses aren't designed to be compatible with working simultaneously), it's very plausible to end up with something like £50k in debt from getting a BA+Master's. The interest rate on that debt is also pretty draconian (I think RPI+2%-3%). Yes, the debt is forgiven after something like 30 years (or is it 40?), but until then you'll pay at least 10% of your earnings every year into student debt.

Want a good house in a nice neighborhood? You're looking at something to the tune of several hundred thousands. Wages aren't that high to begin with, and you're already bleeding money every year to pay your previous debt. Yeah you can be a plumber living in a semi-detached deanobox pretty easily, but again I don't think you've escaped working class there.

>>29374408
lush

>>29371660
Unless you go to a Russel Group uni and study something useful e.g. law or economics you're pretty much fucked. In fact, even if you do a top degree at one of the best unis, landing a place in a grad scheme is impossible unless you have done an internship. I know people with firsts in economics from a top 5 uni who are still unemployed after graduating last summer.

>>29374273

Rather that than live with my parents. I could have chosen to stay and save more, but having watchful eyes over you day and night, justifying yourself when you want to go out for a run at 10pm at night. Fuck it.

I have 20K cash and 30K crypto, and still save... Worth it

Wtf is even going on or being said in this thread. They should’ve never let British fags find this board.

>>29374408
why is UK housing so soulless?

>>29370879

>>29374550
I have high school friends that went to Bristol, Manchester, Birmingham, Liverpool, and even Oxford this year, studying STEM mainly. All of us are unemployed.

>>29374619
>pull on my Clarks Beeswax desert boots, black rip-knee slim jeans, my white oxford shirt and cap it off with my green bomber jacket (size medium) from ASOS
>make sure X-Factor semis are set to record on the Sky+HD box before heading out
>lock the door of my 2-bed Barratt New Build behind me
>hop in the Audi A3 2L TDI purchased on a finance agreement
>the missus gets in the passenger seat
>set off on our second trip to IKEA in 2 weeks
>have a wander round the aisles
>debate with the missus whether or not the MALM set of drawers we have in the lounge is too obviously from IKEA and if we should be shopping at somewhere like Oak Furniture Land these days instead now we can afford it after her promotion to Assistant Staff Call Co-ordinator at the call centre
>buy a new desk lamp and potted cactus near the end to have something to make the trip worth while
>grab a bag of mini Daims as well for when we're watching X-factor later
>drop the missus off home
>boost into town, pushing 40 in the freshly paved streets of my exclusive barrat estate because I know there's no cameras
>head over to Smithy's barbershop
>get my usual mates-rates weekly skin-tight-to-number-2 fade undercut from Smithster himself
>meet up with Callum and Deano in spoons and sink a few jars over the footie
>head to the toilet and take a snap of my new haircut with my dick out and send it to the 19-year-old I've been texting for the last 3 days
>head home in the car
>stop in at Raj Mahal's Curry House en route
>pick up a Jalfrezzi and a Korma with rice, poppadoms, tub of extra sauce, veggie pakora and a special nan
>get home, sit down with the missus to watch the X-Factor with the feet up
>wait for the missus to go to bed
>crank one out to some extremely overproduced Brazzers porn downloaded on my outdated BitTorrent client, addled with malware
>check my phone; 19-year-old has text me back a picture of her chebs
>forward it to Davo
>head upstairs
>slip in beside the missus in our comfy IKEA bed

>>29370879
dudes already poor, look he has had to sew up his own jeans
>>29371869
wet look jackets are sexy af
>>29371660
>living in a less expensive place than where graduates flock to
>grads only get paid marginally more in first few years
>doesn't makeup for living away from home in an expensive city in most cases
>work at tesco for 4 years while living at home rent free
>save like £80k if not retarded
>more than enough for a deposit even in today's market
t. grad of 2017 who only now earns £45k and have barely scraped together £50k thanks to living away from home

>>29370879
is that plastic grass lmao

>>29374550
>>29374683
>went to manchester, studied EE
>graduated last year
>now in grad scheme paying 40k p/a and living in the midlands so housing is still relatively affordable
feels good man

>>29374624
minimum standards need to be raised. they build what they can get away with.

>>29374754
Deano's astroturf (on finance)

>>29374550
Yeah you should do internships

>>29374710
top kek

>>29373172
Why does this make me depressed?

>>29374825

>>29374771
Same here, graduated from a London russell group last summer and doing a grad scheme now. Base salary £40k. Equity compensation and bonus £10k. Living with parents and not spending a penny during lockdown.

>>29371375
This is some seethe that has no place in deanoposting.

>>29374825
Internships are fucking hard to secure. I applied to something like 50 during my second year before securing one.

>>29371660
you can stack shelves and save up for a deposit outside the major cities then get a car on finance. I know dozens of these people. a few missed paychecks and they'll lose everything

>>29374710
Living the fucking dream

>>29370879
The architecture of this houses is absolutely disgusting. Living in bongistan must be depressing af

>>29374710
Unironically jelly af of that lifestyle

>>29374408
this looks like a fucking dystopia

>>29374408
That is repulsive.

is studying law okay in pole land ok or did i fuck up bros

>>29374980
the secret that no one lets you in on was to apply for shit like "insight weeks" in first year, they open up in September and close by the end of October. even if you don't secure a place it gives you experience in filling out applications/passing BS hiring tests/interviewing for second year internships

most first year students are too busy getting pissed up in the first two months to care or notice

>>29374930
>>29374771
What graduate schemes did you do? I'm a graduate cloud engineer (not exactly a graduate scheme, more of a junior position) but I only make £36k.

Admittedly, I didn't have any internships and I got quite lazy with applying, so I only managed to get it last minute.

>>29374710
>outdated BitTorrent client

made me actually laugh

The Deanos are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We boomers who have failed, or the zoomers, on the road to ruin in their turn? And why? Because we sought answers to questions that a Deano wouldn't even bother to ask! We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude.

>>29374408
Imagine living in a shit heap like that. I knew pollacks were retarded third worlder white but I mean fuck.

>>29375098

Still unironically better than 90% of the houses in the UK

>>29374915
>>29375066
>>29375079
>>29375185
My name is Deano Bateman.
I'm 31 years old.
I live in the exclusive Leafy Gardens housing estate.
I've got a 62 inch plasma in every room.
I believe in taking care of myself with a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine.
In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I'll put on an ice pack while doing my keepy uppies.
I can do over a thousand.
In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub.
Then I apply an herb-mint facialbalm.
I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol,
because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older.
Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
I like to relax with marathon Fifa tournaments and getting absolutely blind drunk.
For me, it's Smirnoff Ice.
Lol. I see your admiring my car?
Well, I recently took out a financial loan on a this based BMW.
I'm an entrepreneur.
I'm making big moves.
2021 is my year.

>>29375139
Yep. Only a small number of people know about the insight days. It's bullshit how you basically have to start applying for jobs as soon as you start uni when you have other priorities. I was lucky in my first year to be offered a summer internship by my mate's dad. Most people do fuck all however, and then don't get a 2nd year internship and are therefore automatically disqualified from any half-decent grad scheme. It's so tiresome.

>>29375162
grad engineer scheme in the utilities industry
with boris pushing the net zero meme it's a hell of a great time and it's 100% recession proof

>>29371660
I did that by mistake.
Never made it to uni, ended up an apprentice in a trade, now I'm in a proper job and making more than all my uni twat friends.
If you go to uni to do something useful, there's money to be made. Most don't.

>>29375162
Finance / data analytics for an American financial services company in London. Have never been to the office though because of covid.

>>29375290
Mate I'm not complaining, fortune favours those who are prepared and do their research

it's the ultimate brainlet/midwit filter

>>29374930
I'm making 27k and living in the shadow of my two years older brother who's on fucking 100k plus bonuses. Please simply kill me.

Is £32k annual a good salary in Scotland?

>>29375527
Yes.

>about to finish a PhD in life sciences
>really want to get out of academia because opportunities are fucking bleak
>job listings for what I want to do are touching on £30k at most
>no debt
>£360k in Chainlink
Not fantastic but not terrible either.

>>29374710
this is fucking gold

Bros I'm finishing second year A levels in good subjects but average grades probably (Haven't got a fucking clue bc centre assessed grades), I want to do a higher apprenticeship in engineering or banking/finance, is that a good route?

>>29375290
I didn't bother with summer internships unfortunately and spent most of my summers backpacking through Europe and Asia using money I got from selling bitcoins (when it was $10k...)

I don't know if I regret it completely as those were great formative experiences. I was still naive then and the idea of spending my summer breaks waging was a depressing thought, even if it would've helped me with get a graduate scheme.

>>29375671
based

>>29374408
>starting price £380,000
>estate maintenance fee £100pm
>kids screaming outside 6 days a week
>dog barking 10 feet from your house
>traffic jam every morning and evening to get in and out
ah, this is why i wage slave

>>29375671
its nice, because you can do what you want to do and what you are interested in, with financial freedom from investments.

>>29375710
>banking/finance
if it's back or middle office think about it carefully, that shit will be automated in 10 years time as banks look to cut costs

>>29375267
kek
> btw i hope you mean 2021 is your year at home, again.
>but its fine let us play some hecking nintendo online

>>29375710
Yeah it's probably a better alternative than going to university. Unless you into a top 10 uni it's not worth it. There are plenty of decent apprenticeships at Big 4 companies or banks in London.

>>29372036
I've lived in a few places; I actually think Britain is one of the most economically mobile places in the world. IT is however one of the most difficult social places to live in the world because everyone knows within 5 seconds of talking to you ; a) where you are from to within about 30 miles, b) what social class you are from; c) basically what your parents did for a living; d) what fucking newspaper you likely read; e) what type of drink you like f); whether they are really your "sort". If you don't fit in, you're fucked. If you lie about it or try and cheat them - they despise you. Class system is fucked. But it doesn't stop people making money if you've got the brains.

>>29372944
Low interest loans, of which 0% APR financing is the extreme point, sounds great on paper (hell, you're beating interest!) but they're absolutely terrible in practice because they distort the market towards excessive consumption. There's a reason retailers offer these loans, because they know you'll buy much more expensive items because they're "only X a month".
The worst part is they also screw over the people that aren't debt addicts, because they allow retailers to raise their prices. Look at Burgerland's university market as a great example of that. A college education went from something you could pay off by taking on a summer job in the 50s-70s to the second largest expense you'll ever have, thanks to low interest loans.

>>29375884
Yeah I see, front office is staying for now right?, apart from algos and shit that will become even bigger.

>>29376110
I've been trading crypto and following financial markets for almost 4 years and hoping that that will give me an advantage when applying to Big 4/Banking apprenticeships.

>>29376229
front office should be okay, if you want back office do something programming (or even IT related) as that will never disappear and will have decent exit routes

the level of detail on these is amazing.

I assume this thread is full of brits so I'm gonna ask you niggers.
Im a foreigner that just finished his data sci masters and is *considering* uk for work, mainly in the fintech meme.

Anyone have any idea what the money is like?

>>29375710
Uni is a waste of time full of gays and Chinese who don't speak English

>>29376139
>I've lived in a few places; I actually think Britain is one of the most economically mobile places in the world.
lol bs.

>>29376483
London salaries are decent but the cost of living is ridiculous.

>>29375671
As someone that fell for the professorship meme and did 5 years of a postdoc, no matter how bleak things are looking in the private sector, DO NOT GO INTO ACADEMIA. It is a hellscape of working even more than you did as a grad student (yes, really) with only a 2% chance of actually securing a permanent position.

>>29370879
She looks disgusting

>>29376644
Believe me I'm gone I'd rather neck than take a postdoc position.

>>29370879
>>29375900
Ok this thread really seems to be ful of brits so tell me:
Are you really not even allowed to meet one fucking person since (?)
And you cant even legally leave the UK?
How fucked is this, we are fucked aswell in Germany but that is next level.

>>29376597
I was hoping for a number fren, but thanks anyway

C++ Software Engineer on ultra low latency projects in the city. £300k/y starting + bonus.

>>29376483
It's really bad here mate so bad wages are terrible pal you may as well just stay where you are mate cheers

>>29376483
Stay out and keep out

>>29376537
You should see some other places. People are fucked from the minute they are born. No chance of even leaving the village most of the time.

>>29376483
For data science at a fintech, not that great, maybe £120k a yea as a senior/lead. Better off getting comfortable with system calls and focussing heavily on optimisation with C/++ and x86 ASM, hft is where the money's at.

>>29376386
Banks don't really do trading anymore retard.

>>29370879
>Followed my dreams and did Biochemistry at Uni followed by a Master's in the same
>Reward is a permanent contractor position at £26k
I should have listened to my fucking dad and just trained to be an Electrician, I'd be fucking set for life by now.

>>29377029
stemfags get the rope
law/finance is the way

>>29376796
Two Sigma/Citadel/Hudson River Trading/Jane Street (but I heard JS use OCaml)?

>>29371375
>Wtf he is talking shit about rooney
Holy kek i lost at that one

>>29376743
1) True, ish, There's 2 types of people rn with about 35/65 split. the 35% will not meet anyone and stick to the laws and the 65% are happy to meet with others. Legally tho, yes we are not supposed to have met with other people for the last 2 months.

2) Again, kind of correct. It is possible to leave in certain circumstances

Yeah it's pretty shit here in the UK rn.

Studied maths at a shit uni and now I have a comfy actuarial grad scheme. paid study days 1-2 a week and since I'm a newbie if I do shit wrong colleagues and bosses don't care, I'm "learning"

>>29377107
Did you do law? Where at? What stage you at?

>>29374710
Saved

how did deano's wife look before all the modifications?

>>29376812
>>29376941
Cheers frens, thanks for the input

>>29376989
120k at a senior position doesnt sound bad considering my southern yuropistan cost of living but I assume its terrible up there so I guess I'll stay here. I'm waiting on this maritime/quant meme right now so I think the money will be okay. I think its about uhh 2k starting which is great since im young.

>>29377185
Crazy ok, well here its like 70 30 in the countryside even more who dont give a fuck.
But legally you always can meet with another household this winter and are free to travel to them, means you can at least travel free in Germany.
And you can always leave.

>>29371062
Who? Get off this site

>>29377298
D(ea)NO in ID

>>29377029
The ceiling on biochem is way up there from what I understand. Just takes a lot of manoevrin up the ladder.

>>29377285
foreigner, first year

>>29376483
where full mate

>>29377376
Yeah, within about 5 minutes of talking to someone you can work out which type they are. I'm in countryside UK also and its like that too, pretty much life as usual unless you go into the city

>>29377443
university of silesia to be precise, short 3% of points to get into the top school

Software engineer contractor reporting, 600£ daily rate. Pretty comfy life in London.

>>29377370
I mean £120k, and likely you'll have to be physically based there and they'll work you to the bone... your best bet in the UK is to either get on perm for £80-100k doing spring boot & react (probably the most common stack here), or on contract doing the same thing for about £160k/y which will likely fall inside IR35.

You may also be able to land a £100-120k/y senior position within data science/ml working outside of finance where the stress is much lower, think google or some fun little start-up with good venture backing. Don't take on fintech tier stress for £120k, not worth it, the culture is really fucking awful, and unless you're a quant/doing hft optimisation the £300k + bonus is not going to materialize.

Gotta love a Deano thread.
>Daily reminder that if you're not saving up to pack your bags and move out of this shithole, you're retarded.

>>29377370
see
>>29377697
I'm on perm right now because of covid, but SE contractors in the UK, especially at a public sector department or doing general banking or insurance software is collecting at least £150k/year for very little stress, and merely the additional risk of being laid off someone on a perm contract wouldn't have.

>>29377697
so people just phone you and ask you to engineer their software?

>>29377805
Na couldn’t live abroad me, love the people here too much
Just keep away from cities and this country is fine

>>29377692
You're in Wroclaw? I've been thinking about applying to do some post-doc law work there lol. Given up on it now because the pay is so notoriously bad. You wanted to go to Jagiellonian?

>>29377892
He's talking about ir35 roles mate

>>29371660
Already been said but these people are often in very precarious positions, and may have limited options in terms of career progression. I used to be jealous of my friend who did an apprenticeship; lead to a full time job, had a house and car etc way before me. But he's already gone as far as he can in the company he works for (unless he becomes a line manager in like 10 years) and in that time he is completely at the mercy of the economy. If his company folds and he loses his job he'll have to sell everything and move back with his mum within 4 weeks.

>>29377959
no, the actual silesia, katowice

>>29375710
You can join the merchant navy as an engineering cadet, get a free engineering degree, practical experience, and travel a little. Even if you have no interest in working at sea, plenty of jobs ashore in power plants, etc, which is actually what most do after the cadetship.

>>29377959
yes, fell short 3 points on a scale of 300, fucked up them math in my previous post, im posting from my laptop now

>>29378014
Ah I see.

even anglo memes are shit
kys britbongs you are the niggers of the white race

>>29378104
from what i researched they are about equal, didnt even apply to wroclaw, and my sister told me warsaw was a no no

>>29378153
FOY

>>29377200
>demanding 70k before he will even consider working 5 days a week
Dare I say it...

It all disappears in a puff of smoke
His bogged gf leaves him for another Deano who is just about keeping everything together like him. Moves into a shitty house, or back with his parents. Might get another girlfriend but by this point in his life only landwhales left for him.
His life descends into a sort of dystopian hell, more or less, depending on his family’s wealth or the ability of his family and friends to give him some sort of lucky break (like he knows a guy who can get him a cheap house, cheap car, cash in hand, no questions asked etc etc)

>>29372944
this. most of those who define themselves as middle class are not. not by a long shot. they are more working class than coal pit miners. a demented society. land of cope and story.

>>29375527
You'll come out with roughly £2000 each month after all taxes and stuff.

>>29378053
Thank you, I will look into that.

>>29375800
>380k
>Still only a terraced house and you have to share 2 walls with some cunt.
The souf is so cucked.

>>29378315
Very true
I think Edward Dutton (maybe Kai Murrow, or both when he was a guest on his show) talked about how in American society no-one refers to themselves as working class, because it is admission of failure. Similar thing in the UK now, burger culture is leaking, people no longer accept being workin class and you now have Delano’s with their finance lifestyle and tacky holidays to Thailand with the lads

>>29370879
is 19 too late to unfuck my life? im in first year if law at a top 5 uni in my shithole, and im about to fuck up one out of four of my finals, gonna have to pay a hundred bucks to retake it next year

>>29377725
>>29377881
That's actually very interesting, but don't you require experience to even be considered for a contract position? I'm a fresh masters graduate, my work experience is basically my projects, thesis (bank fraud ML) and a few publications so while I'm better than my class I don't think they'd consider me

>>29377413
Haha EA Sports, love that lad, top games company.

>>29374455
>If you try to go into university, that's a lot of money
Lol. Only if you study in london
>you'll pay at least 10% of your earnings every year into student debt.
Only after the first £25k income...
The rest of your post whatever, but uni is not expensive.

>>29373172
Jesus christ I know many many deanos and its exactly like this. Mostly all on juice too

These threads actually make me so fucking sad. How do I get out of this shithole country?
Are there any English-speaking countries that aren't completely fucked?

>>29377185
>rn
no it has always been full of cucks.

>Did a year internship and now in my final semester before I graduate
>Still applying for grad schemes but it's not looking good

I think I might just be a NEET for a year.

>>29376743
lol cucked

>>29378903
I think rural Canadian life looks alright tbqh

>>29377805

>>29377805
More and more I think about leaving, but where would we go? The cunts who run this country are awful but I love r country.

>>29378227
kek pretty much. Only on 30k right now but not bad considering it's my first job out of uni

>>29378701
Nah, I remember seeing an article on the Guardian recently about how the middle class and upper middle lie the most about being working class in an attempt to downplay their advantage

>>29377185
Here in Glasgow, it is hell. 100% of people follow the rules to a T. My parents left the country at least but I have to still WFH. I haven't seen any of my friends since August. I hate this. There was a guy who nearly jumped off a bridge round the corner from me but got talked down. In the middle of the day, all whilst people were just carrying on wearing their masks in the fucking PARK.

>>29379720
I don’t think these people pretend they’re working class though, they just pretend they had hard personal circumstances

>>29380043
Ah, here's the study they used. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0038038520982225

Interesting read

>>29376796
How do I achieve this?

>>29370879
Jesus look at those little chicken-legs...

>>29380736
10 years industry experience

>>29371375
extremely based

>>29377805
honest question: where?
the issues in the uk exist in other developed countries too

>>29374408
Fuck me, when I look out the back of my house I see fields, trees, hills way in the distance. Meanwhile these people see deano shagging his girlfriend, horrifying

>>29379839
Holy shit, fren things will get better, don't check your portfolio today tho.

Shit gcses, no a-levels, not even a fucking btec, no work experience either. How can I escape this hell? Currently doing some shitty free customer service nvq level 2 and ITIL v4, hoping to get starter roles in service management, but things aren't looking good.

>>29382048
You can’t

>>29382400
Course I can

>>29376483
Go to Ireland instead, England is a shithole. I lived there 11 fucking years.

>>29370879
wtf is wrong with her nose

>>29374550
that's because they did economics, arguably not STEM, I took maths and did various computer science modules and I've been turning down offers since June until I decided on one. not trying to gloat i just want to highlight it's all about
>how saturated is your field
>how useful are you really relative to everyone else in it
maths is still massively undersubbed relative to what companies want, which is literally any clue about how data works

>>29383215
How do you get offers? Linkedin?

>>29383215
>how data works

You're all just fucking jealous of me and my 10/10 fiance

>>29383215
I have 3 friends who all got Firsts in Maths in 2019and have only just found relevant work. The thing is lots of student dont seem to want to do a year in industry because they dont want to leave their mates. Then it fucks them in the ass once they graduate.

>>29383560
He’s right though?
The vast, vast majority of people who think they are ‘good at data’ do so because they know how to read a bar chart. That’s not including the even bigger proportion of the population who are retarded and numerically illiterate.
There’s being able to read a chart and then there’s being able to interpret, intuit, rigorously examine a dataset etc, not to mention being good at machine learning

>>29384012
Don’t even need to do a year
Literally just do a summer or two

>>29383923
She's proper fit she is and all 'er mates are right sorts as well.

>>29383923
bruv your hairline is moving mad

Bros I'm mid twenties and still work fucking retail. How do I escape? Any working class lads here got any tips? I have 20k in crypto but not a lot else to my name...

>>29381772
Im still in the green even after this BTC plumment at least.

>>29384139
You all wish you had my life. Instead you're sat here with your little dicks in your hands playing with crypto shares.

>>29384139
that lower tummy is the WORST

>>29384329
your hairline is moving mad bruv

>>29384329
ur gf has the figure of a tesco value cumberland

>>29384329
>>29384394
How do you like my kitchen? Me mate Mitch got me a good deal on some genuine Italian marble. I'll have it fully paid off in 18 months as well.

>>29384568
Have what paid off? Your mad hairline bruv?

>>29384139
>>29384329
>>29384568

Whats with the girls making the "foot forward" posture?

This thread is gold.

I'm honestly jealous of the financial security that first world countries give even to poor people.
I graduated in civil engineering from a good brazilian university, got a job as structural engineer and worked in several multi million projects, but the economy of this shithole just keeps sinking deeper and deeper. The company I worked broke last year, and now I'm unemployed living off the crypto and small engineering-related jobs I do from time to time.
I wish I wasnt such a retard during college and at least tried moving out of the country even if to clean european toilets.

>>29384012
yeah! I'm who you replied to and this was major, I took a placement and only 2 out of my 10 friends in my close group as they literally just wanted to work together in final year, majority of them got 1sts last year I got a 2:1 but just by actually paying attention I'm ahead.
>>29383447
yes, I even made direct enquiries to hiring officers at firms on LinkedIn telling them I could use R and they were legit like 'jesus christ we need this badly', the firm I work for now I'm cambridge is crying out for machine learning skillsets and no one is presenting it
>>29384030
legitimately, my friend from my placement just did pure computer science and because one of his modules was just everything about databases he's been employed since July weeks after he began searching

>>29384568
Mans look like a burnt egg still

>>29370879
decades of payments

>>29385005
Unironically this.

>>29384568
SHOELACES CUNT
ngl Boss as fuck they is.

>>29384012
>The thing is lots of student dont seem to want to do a year in industry because they dont want to leave their mates. Then it fucks them in the ass once they graduate.
This. I spend time volunteering on a local project dominated by university students. Great fun. But I've realised that they have no fucking clue about the world. I was working alongside a 3rd year maths student the other week. I was shocked to hear that he hadn't completed any internships during his studies, and that he doesn't want to do one this summer because it's his "last chance to have fun." On top of that, he says he's interested in programming. Great. I ask him if he has a Github - nope. Turns out that he doesn't know how to program, he just likes the idea of it.
I don't think I was that clueless at his age. Then again, I guess it depends on all sorts of things, like parental advice. But seriously... I'm increasingly convinced that unis are more like unicorn wish factories than institutions that actually prepare you for the cold reality of waging. What sort of shit advice - if any - are these students getting from their professors?
Reading this thread (and seeing the wojaks today) makes me very glad I cashed out recently. I'm effectively retired now and the enormity of no longer having to wage is still an abstract kind of feel.

>>29384139
good grief. british women.

>>29378727
please

>>29384946
Makes my missis look well peng, her and all her gal pals do it for the insta.

>>29384946
so you dont see their dicks

>>29384568
>Getting out of control again
Typical.

>>29384961
move now vro, even go to Portugal it will be an upgrade

>>29384986
dont really believe you considering Cambridge uni itself is known as an ML factory. Amazon, MS and Apple all have big ML depts there

>>29385403
Oh shit they are trannies. Yeah something also looked wrong with their faces

>>29385302
What kinds of things do people look for in a github?

>>29385395
>tfw his hips are bigger than yours
rip

>>29385568
proof that you can contribute legitimate code to legitimate projects on a predictable schedule

>>29385340

>>29385302
mate wish factory is right, the lack of even lecturers knowledge of snagging an internship or placement and their importance is staggering, but ultimately unsurprising given they're mostly career academics, I got lucky mine was a based Russian man that got me having serious conversations with some of his employer friends about what they want to see in introductory material like CVs and cover letters, to be fair though now I'm working I can see its a 2 way street, recruiters and firms aren't aware of how students ideas of being appealing are horribly skewed and are currently almost universally unable to get the message across of what they want, despite knowing exactly what that is (specific to each firm) so even just ASKING is refreshing to them

>>29385568
no one looks at githubs

>>29385340
>>29385403
>>29385494
Wot you on about? They're proper gorgeous.

>>29384946
it presents a slimmer profile compared to standing square
also look up the term "contrapposto"

>>29371375
>i'm not racist lads. racism is a crime and crime is for black people ahaha
kek

>>29385932
if you're applying for an entry level tech job without relevant credentials and little work experience (e.g. a maths major without internships), a GitHub might be your only chance at successful differentiation.

>>29385933
Cor

>>29385931
I'm a 1st year
What's the best way to get an internship, write to people on Linkedin?

>>29385933
Middle left pls

>>29385432
I dont fully know about Cambridge uni itself but you are right, they're ahead of the curve in respect to that, I'm speaking more broadly of Russel group, I myself was at Cardiff, but there's so many firms in Cambridge and they mostly outnumber the grads from the uni in terms of available roles plus you've got London close by enticing grads with slightly more money, and growth across the whole sector, but many in my circle are unaware

>>29385933
Reyt bunda on tha

>>29386119
hiring managers cant be bothered to look through 100s of githubs (1000s if theyre at a bank etc.) for the one pearl inside. github is only relevant if you published something important (eg npm package with >10000 users) or are a maintainer on a big project, and then you just put that on your CV. no one can be bothered to read through your code when they will just filter you in the interview/technical assessment

>>29385933
the slampig on the far right can catch a hot load from me. Just imagine the braaaps.

>>29385933
10/10 in Bongland

>>29377968
Pretty sure IR35 is coming to an end. Farage was campaigning to stop them fucking with it though. Might go back to it, that's where the money is.

>>29386316
yes that works, and please please go to career events at uni, I went to them all and mostly went alone and they were often near empty, have conversations with firms offering them, they are there because they want you and what you can offer, they're not for show. last year I wrote emails to contact us addresses on firm sites, because I was finished with uni and there weren't any events any more because of the pandemic, but honestly mate, ask and you shall receive

>>29386705
Took da words outta my mouf ya did

What football club does deano root for?

>>29385931
interesting, thanks for sharing your experience. lucky to have based russki. I went to uni in the US and worked fulltime since 18 so had a very different experience. was in NYC so was hyper competitive from the start, but luckily got taken under the wing of a senior vp and accumulated a shit ton of leveragable experience very early on in the game. turned me into a cocky but effective shit.
related to what you said, a friend of mine has a startup dedicated to creating mentor links between uni students and companies looking to recruit fresh blood. it's especially for those looking to pivot soft skills into big tech. seems an interesting and necessary service but I struggle to see how it can be monetised. much better for these companies to create parallel learning tracks online that allow for firm-specific credentials to be gained in tandem with a degree imo.

>>29386533
good to know, in which case I will not be giving that advice to desperate undergrads in future

>>29386764
Thanks.

>>29370879

>>29385933

>>29383923
>>29384139
>>29384329
>>29384568
>>29385395


>>29385908
>>29385908

>>29385908
this is incredibly accurate.
bong here, i am repulsed by our women

>>29385933
Ere's another one for you thirsty fellas, the missis having a pamper night with her gals.

>>29386917
sounds good my man, and well considering recruitment agencies exist I guess it's not great surprise, I think that's where the disconnect lies, firms want what they want, divulge that to recruiters and they identify candidates whose university knowledge and skills can translate into that

>>29387543
>>29387028
>>29386917
>>29386764
>>29386728
how old are you guys

Do you guys think Urban Planning and Real Estate is a decent degree. I'm in my second year, failing to secure any sort of experience or internships. I think I'm fucked

>>29387528
Two of them look ok, that's it.

>>29387528
2 blondes on the left, only decent braphogs in the pic

>>29384568

That soulless gaze rattles me

>>29370879
>tfw I literally know a guy named Deano

>>29370879
Hes gonna be paying for that till he's 65, probably ends up paying 3x more in interest.

>>29387746

That's not what braphog means

>degree in geography (not geology, geography, the shittiest degree of them all)
>student debt is now £68k and rising
>don't care

This thread has made me realise why I don’t even want to fucking make it in this shithole of a country anymore. Everyone thinks they’ve made the big time because they make enough to cover their monthly expenses which is literally their entire life - car, clothes, teeth, all their furniture, fucking hairlines, lips and arses on finance.
Absolutely soulless country. Fuck me. I hope we all die.

>>29370879
God I love bimbos. Trashy big fat fake lips is top tier.

>>29388269

>>29371660
>>29371660

Because all millenials went to uni, I'd say the majority did some bullshit course. They didn't realise they'd be earning less than 30k until their middle-age and that's even if they get a role in their desired field.

The only top paying jobs in the UK are london consultant roles, chatered accountants, quant firms which required top 1% intelligence and skills to get into or come from private schools. Either that or become a doctor in the NHS.

Even in top STEM fields it's hard to get good paying roles. I earn 52k in Cambridge and people would literally suck my dick to have that. Most of my coworkers are poos. Majority of UK graduates we interview are borderline retarded.

>"I know you're in there Deano!"

>>29388269
>>29388269
>>29388269

I've known this since I set foot here. I live in a remote area of the UK and am laughing at my high south-east salary and literally no living costs.

>>29388386
think your fuckin funny talkin to me like that lad? think your some fuckin big man? divnt speak to me like that m8 a divnt fuck about like, al have 5 lads kickin down ya fuckin door at 3 in the morning and we’ll kick ya fuckin heed in if ya not careful ya little spacka

>>29388487
>>29388487
>>29388487

Here in N.Ireland literally everyone has a Merc/Audi/BMW

To be fair, you can have a detached house mortage and car for under £1000 a month. But fuck me. Every second hand car seller is full of BMWs.

Is there a way to figure is a car a repo job?

>>29387593
26 year old boomer, I say boomer because I feel so far removed from my zoomer friends who spent 3 years at uni instagramming instead of forming a single employment opportunity
>>29388387
truth, my fellow students just aren't told this, so many degrees taken with zero prospect

>>29388502
>set foot
Typical imergrint probly gets all his money from guvernmint. Not arsed

>>29387593
Fuck off 77th

>>29388728
my shitty little law course is 5 years,and i just started im fucking overwhelmed by the recent switch from hs to uni, should i start looking for internships now, or should i wait a year

>>29388387
I was considering doing accounting but decided to go for web dev. Haven't started yet. Is web dev good in UK?

Someone fucking explain this to me. It seems everyone that didn't do STEM at uni is in some recruitment or sales job probably earning 20k with commission. It's always Deanos and Stacies. How is this economy afloat? Seems there's more recruiters than jobs to be had in skilled fields.

Surely if interest rates rise that whole section of the economy is going to disappear. It gives me anxiety that this whole thing could collapse even though I'm not in those jobs. My job does require people buying new phones and cars regularly.

>>29388487
theres gotta be an absolute shitpile of 'EasyLease.com - sign once, £349 a month and forget it'* motors due up for the repoman now, surely?
>*ask about our EasyFinance.com options to cover your EasyLease.com deposit, Today!

>>29384329
Some will look at this and feel genuinely envious.
Rope.

>>29384986
Surely the situation there isnt that desperate and youre just exaggerating right?

t. 23, fresh grad

>>29370879
Those are both men

>>29388884
>>29388884

Loads of jobs, get internships and grad roles or you are fucked.

You should be working for full stack development from day 1 if not before graduation. Interviews for best firms are insane so Leetcode and get in the door.

You should also have a good portfolio of work to show employers at interview.

>>29384329
I need to get off this Island incase my descendants breed with this

>>29388833
depends, if your work is tough, you should still focus on developing your academic skill for 1st and possibly even second year, making that look like the easy part is attractive, but if you can cope, speak with careers advisers and lecturers with knowledge about where you want to go and they can point you in the right direction, but critically the more you do, the more you get, you're not going to miss out if you start courting firms and roles earlier

>>29376139
Go back

>>29389052
>>29389052

See my earlier post, second car salesmen in my area have loads of BMWs out front and they are all 3 years old.

These aren't ex rentals and it's northern ireland. Everyone here has a BMW/Audio but then again a mortage is 400/month

>>29388954
the market, the money, the economy, it's all fake bro.. govts issuing student loans that can't be paid back are just all in for one last ride on the western gravy train man

>>29388387
yep, huge overproduction of professionals, huge numbers of minorities and international students, businesses having a massive pool to choose from and count on for downward wage pressure, and reputation management being more important than skill level, resulting in the sea of brown applications getting preferential treatment.

>>29374710
This is the most in depth portrait of British life at the moment desu

There are swathes of these people, X factor, love island, footie loving brainless wagies. There is nothing wrong with their existence, except that I really can’t believe any of them truly like any of this shit or that it makes any of them truly happy. How the fuck do we fix this country?

>>29385395
>>29385395

After their first kid the stress of bills, economic hardship, low salary prospects and rasing a child will take its toll and leave them either resenting each other or separating, creating even more demand for housing as they both need a separate house to live in and take care of the child.

>>29389192
in terms of the job market, no it's not awful, people are coming around in a slow rate, I mean just even on here you have people asking the right questions and finding out what to do, but just think, there must be people you know personally from uni that you think 'i wouldn't pay you £1 to do anything to work for me, I'd rather pay you to stay away', and in reality they're applying for roles en masse they simply don't understand

I'm not british but live in the UK and got involved with a Chloe.
>always talking about needing her clothes, fancy bars, fancy dinners and fancy holidays.
>always talking about Dubai and Ibiza.
>overly fixated on consumption and material things.
>I want the big house, I want to shop at fancy stores,I want a nice car.
Smashed twice and got the fuck out.
>she's not even aware of the problem with her desired lifestyle and focus.
If all Chloes are similar it's an absolute waste of time.

>>29388387
Cambridge is a pretty boring city tbqh

>>29389620
>>29389620
>>29389620

>>29389484
>>29389484


Right but won't many people pay back 2x or 3x the principal over those terms?

>>29374771
>didn’t go to uni
>became a civil servant instead
>job is interesting as fuck and I get to choose where and when I work on full flexi
>32 days paid leave
>been promoted twice and earn £35k
>all my friends earn £20k and have no savings
>my net worth is now £160k
Top kek

>>29389777
Yeah, that sounds like a Chole.

>>29389859
you find civil service work interesting LOL?

>>29389346
yeah, i'm figuring, between slow sales, returned leases, bad finance repos, car hire firms going tits up, company cars being no longer required and cities increasingly banning non-electrics..
..market for few year old Beemers be indeed a buyers one. Honestly can't even imagine where they are storing all this shit. Gonna need to start crushing 'em soon, or shipping them to Nigeria.

>>29389620
I literally think it's an IQ problem. They are just not self aware enough to realize that that kind of brainless consoomer life is completely pointless. They just do what the telly tells them and make themselves believe it's a good life.

>>29389739
I'm having trouble believing that the job market for my field isnt saturated. I grinded 5 years for a stats bsc and data sci msc and HR drones still act smug which makes me think that there's plenty of people that should be able to do what I do. On the other hand, what you said is true, my undergrad was a very small department (like sub 30 people, 5 graduated including me) and I'd have a tough time assigning them a simple task so maybe there is a need? Idfk

>>29389620
Common people do common things. Such has always been the way.

>>29390053
What about the things that people on 4chan consume? We might not have designer clothes, trips to Ibiza or Hugo Boss cologne, but compared to normies, the spergs on here probably have a vast library of unplayed Steam games, Pop Figures, Magic the Gathering decks and so on.

>>29389620
it can't be fixed, no more than you could fix romania.
britain is basically a romania unlucky enough to still remember a time when it was a great nation.

>>29389818
>>29389818

Yes, but what city isn't? The vast majority of UK cities are boring and full of boring people who only interact with their own narrow clique.

Cambridge has at least less niggers and retards.

>>29374375
Depends on where. It's already five times the average salary in eastern europe, for example.

>>29390451
Don't be retarded.

I know people love to masterbate over denigrating the UK, but at least keep it in line with reality.

>>29390478
What do you find interesting and worthwhile in cities then?

>>29374710

>>29390652
london is statistically more brown than bucharest. i'm the one being realistic.

>>29385302
>>29385302
>>29385302

Bro have you even attended uni? You wouldn't even be suggesting this if you had, because you would have realised that first semester that is 100% a wish factory.

These people hang around in cliques their entire university life and when they graduate they barely see half those so called friends anymore, so they look for a smiliar clique in their job but unless they are in some recruitment or large grad scheme they are fucked.

The problem is these people don't realise that they are now the product, or at least their 5% student loan is when the BoE rate is 0.1%. The degree was not the product the loan was. This goes beyond university, it's the rental market and new build home market. You are simply a product now and the low common denominators are being farmed for interest and frankly I think it's hilarious.

>>29378727
You haven’t fucked your life at all. The fact you got in to that course tells you that, you could go in to a lot of jobs with your school qualifications alone and within a couple of years be making more than the national average in the country (£23,000 ish)

>>29389620
It's over. Anyone here who has been in the public school system in the last 20 years can attest how bad it is and how much worse it will become.

The Deanos of today will look like intellectual giants compared to what is coming.

>>29390439
Indulging in video games and toys excessively it's not healthy either, but It's nothing compared to fully embracing the Deano lifestyle, on finance.
My ex-Chloe just HAD TO live in one of the most expensive parts in London and I don't know exactly how she could "pull it off" (maybe on some kind of Chloe finance framework?). She was not a hooker btw (not that I knew of).

>>29390654
>>29390654

Beyond a job, nothing, I'd rather just travel around ski/surf trips and ignore most of the city the rest of the time.

>>29382048
There’s always a way to make a modest amount of money in this country without too much effort. Just always keep your eyes peeled for any new job that’ll pay you more than you’re already on, and in the early stages don’t be picky at all about what work you do. Then you can go to night classes etc during this if you plan on following a specific career path, if not live a comfy life new jobs every year or 2, getting yourself a good month or 2 off in between if you manage your money ok.

>>29391196
i dont know the fucking exams are killing me, ive had to read around 600 pages to pass my standardized high school tests decently well, maganaged to score 254/300 points in the uni recruitment, but i feel like im the biggest retard in class, maybe its my mental state. but i feel overwhelmed by the concept of going to interviews, updating credentials, and looking to gain the upperhand over every single colleague

>>29391249
>I don't know exactly how she could "pull it off"
Parents probably

>>29375107
how can you fuck that up?

>>29391437
failed to follow up on the 600 page argument, literally one book out of 5 you have to read to pass the semester is fucking 600 pages like what the fuck, i didnt even get to have normal classes, all is done via microsoft teams

>>29389982
I’m an investigator and get to go on stakeout type trips near my home town, and every once in a while get to go on trips further afield. I’ve been to Interpol and the fbi to carry out joint ops, really cool desu

>>29384469
her body genuinely triggers me idk why i'm in this thread i legitimately dont think british people are real they are a psyop

>>29391543
overstaturated field in my slavic shithole, might not even graduate since its really hard for me rn

>>29384329
this has to be bait right? no one is that retarded to be boasting that their a turbo NPC wageslave mong

>>29370879
What the fuck is wrong with her face? Is that a 10/10 in bongland?

>>29370879
Her face

>>29391679
This has to be an anon posting one of his mates instas.

>>29387528
I know these types and they are so fucking detached from reality its astounding

>>29390979
Great, but that's got nothing to do with being Romanian tier.

>>29391483
If that were the case, she wouldn't be a real Chloe I think.
The whole point of the Deano and Chloe lifestyle is living a life way above their means, based on what they think is a good life (basically what the telly tells them) on finance, isn't it?

>>29373324
Fuck off

>>29391437
Majority of people have no idea what they’re doing and genuinely I’d like to think that if you’re fairly educated and post here you probably already have the upper hand over most of these people.

The best advice would be to just find a way to back yourself, cos literally when it comes to uni and getting decent jobs anyone can do it, you just need to apply yourself and back your ability. Also if you fail you fail but you can always learn from mistakes. Genuinely if you’re at a top 5 uni there’s a 99% chance you’ve already “made it” whether you finish your degree or not.

>>29391198
>>29391198
>>29391198


Just imagine deanos kids.

>>29391437
Also law isn’t for everyone and it’s an incredibly tough course. I know a guy that completed 4 years and never went on to do anything to do with law cos he ended up hating it after the 4 years. But just the experience itself can help you succeed in other areas as well as if you’re able to pick up a qualification from it.

>>29392378
thats a massive bluepill, but if i dont graduate with a bachleors, all i have is my hs diploma nad 2 months experience working as a bartender/waiter

>>29391552
>>29391552

Are you trained in gorilla warfare tactics?

>>29375671
> academia
Get out of that cuck world

>>29392464
it was law, or finance and accounting, everyone i knew told me to do law, also the finance school i got accepted into was kind of low tier, many of my lazy retarded hs friends who did nothink but drink their asses to death every other weekend got in too, so i chose the law school

>>29391552
NCA? Nice

I'd like that

>>29392378
>>29392378

Went to Southampton and potentially making some equity from NVIDIA acquiring my company.

Have I made it or will Deano be laughing at me from his Range Rover as I cycle to the office on my hipster push-bike and he overtakes me at 80mph in a residential area (on finance).

>>29392127
yeah you're right. london being majority-minority has nothing to do with it being a cosmopolitan hellhole becoming further and further disconnected from the nation's ancestral identity and dragging everyone along with it. you'll definitely be able to escape to some quaint midlands town where it will remain an oasis and not suffer from decline like everywhere else.

>>29388269
So do the rest of us mate

>>29392613
*every weekend

>>29392588
Submitting my thesis next month and I'm gone.

Is deanoposting classist? Doesn't seem to be punching down as much as 'hurr durr chavscum'

>>29392715
mate sell up and move somewhere cheap and buy a house with land and learn to be self sufficient. thats what im doing bad to say but the west is fucked

>>29374683
Lmao I've been lying about having a degree from Bristol Uni for 10 years now and nobody has ever bothered to check.

>>29392736
Thanks for agreeing, but to the rest of your post - you can ascrible that to any major Western city.

It isn't unique and it doesn't support the idea that the UK is Romanian tier.

>>29393072
How?

>>29393074
you're right. even if romania is a shithole at least the people there have a more coherent collective sense of self. i'd feel luckier raising children there desu. at least i'd have a better idea of what my grandkids will be born into.

>>29392986
>>29392986

So anywhere outside England? Leasehold is retarded anyway.

>>29390217
Yeah, so saturation is dynamic, in answer to your question, you know every year you get new grads, a bunch of smart individuals who apply for few roles, and regards who apply for everything, HR harpies are basically brute forcing the solution to the problem of recruitment because now, that's all that can be done, because of that saturation and the quality of candidates being so varied, but without any way for firms to identify that until they're working (there are some limiters such as '1st degree/Oxbridge only' for law firms or whatever), and their smugness is honestly due to the fact that they're the bottleneck on firms as they have all the hiring power. my mum is a legal sec and her firm has a faggot in charge of HR so everyone coming in is very diverse but apparently all super retarded, so that's another hurdle for your average SWM. But you know what I mean, basically the bottom line is firms have just as many or more failures when it comes to hiring as failures by candidates to cover all their bases and present themselves in the appropriate way

>>29392986

Also sell what? I don't own property in Cambrdige I'm not a millionaire.

>>29391552
Do you get to carry a gun?

>>29393251
Literally no one bothers to check.

>>29393503

I have a theory that FAANG companies and respective monopolies are pushing diversity not just because they are run by kikes but because all the smaller firms that can't afford retarded niggers in their workforce will go under or be under constant fire from SJWs soon.

Most posh twats have spent their lives looking down on the working class. Fuck them all. Let them drown in mud.

>>29375671
with a PhD wouldn't it be pretty easy to get a visa for a job wherever you want?