/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>29350986
As someone who loves yugioh and collecting vintage yugioh stuff, yes i agree

Fuck these niggers that pumped everything up to ungodly prices, especially the pokemon kikes who are scalping mcdonald happy meals bc muh pikachu

>>29351203
anyone else fucking with NTFs like NBA Top Shot?

>>29350986
as someone who owns tons of high end cards nah, i want normies to keep fomo-ing me to a millionaire.

Anyone opened Kaldheim Collectors Boosters? I'm addicted to buying those, my friend has been getting boxes to me for $120.

>>29351284
show your psa 10's nigger

>>29351254
People are paying for DIGITAL cards now? Fucking yikes bro

>>29351403
did someone say DIGITAL currency?

>>29351254
I want to get into it. I know you have to buy the limited time packs. How often do those happen?

>>29351403
Check out Rarible, people are buying digital art too. You can sell your own on there
https://app.rarible.com/
People are actually buying each other's art, and then trying to re-sell it for higher.

>>29351284

Same. I am so grateful that my dad taught me to cherish and protect everything I bought. I spend less, enjoy my purchase more, and my Pokemon cards are almost worth enough to pay off my house.

>>29351403

Imagine a cryptocurrency that doesn't have any fees for transfer, can't be mined, and goes out of print.

Now you understand the value proposition.

Is anyone here on The Street Fighter 2 cards on Wax/Atomic Market? It’s Nerdy, but also pretty damn cool. Just basically trading back and forth, made a lot of $ myself, biz bros should check it out.

>>29351783
>take screenshot
>now there are millions of copies of your digital “asset”
What am I missing here

>>29351254
why did you block out the number you faggot

>>29351907
I bought the pack of 60. I'm just holding them for now. Do you think I should try and sell the entire pack, or open it and sell the cards individually?

I have a fuckload of sports and comic cards. How can I get them appraised for cheap/free and not get ripped off?

>>29352205
honestly. as someone who spends time with people who buy and sell cards for a living. I recommend looking for top players first and assessing what those cards are worth. I have watched people cart in an entire box of cards and have no idea what they're worth, and get 20% value back in cash and be happy with it.

When I was 10 I'd roll nerd kids for their pokemans or yougioh cards and sell them to other nerds so I could buy chocolate milk.
Might start rolling nerds for their cards again, except buy bitcoin with the cash lmao.

>>29350986
Pepe is fucking overpowered
BAN HE

>>29352329
That's what I figured. Any tips on assessing them? I feel like it will take forever to look up so many cards online

>>29350986

Sufficiently rare and valuable cards don't crash. The market is too illiquid for a mass panic to happen, and the kind of people buying in would rather never sell the card than take a massive loss on it.

I would estimate that the market cap for all PSA 9 and 10 pokemon cards is no more than a 1-2 right now. It's small fucking potatoes compared to crypto or any other ponzi mania we have seen in the past.

>>29352428
prioritize rookie cards especially of All Star players. get penny sleeves and toploaders to protect the good ones. on ebay, search the name of the player, the number of the card, Hit Sold Listings. Order the results by Ended Recently so you can understand price fluctuations over time.

>>29351922

>Take screenshot of BTC wallet
>Post to 4chan
>We're all rich!

Now you see how dumb that sounds?

>>29351922
They're cryptographically signed in an immutable ledger so you have proof of the original...

you're on the wrong board, anon

>>29352329

Top players, fancy refractors. Rest is junk.

>>29350986

>>29351387
what would you like to see? sports,pokemon,,yugioh?

>>29352147
I bought 6 60 packs and 4 10 packs. Currently, you can sell a 60 pack for $100 right now on the marketplace probably in about 5 minutes. The 10 packs are going for $22 and they’re moving up. The RYU BUILD card is going for anywhere from $22 -38$ and if you get low numbers (hundreds or if you have one that’s teens ) that shit will net you $1k plus in the next couple days. The Collectors Editions are all going for hundreds of dollars and again, if you have a low number card - it’s thousand plus, and it’s actually selling. It’s kind of fun and addicting too. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Wax get Nintendo (and Pokémon) or Marvel or another big license here soon.

>>29352957
Can you buy with crypto?

>>29353004
Yes. Wax. On KuCoin or you can buy directly on Atomic Market.

>>29352557
>>29352554
No, that’s the most retarded comparison I’ve ever heard. Why would anyone give a shit about owning “the original” of a piece of art that can be enjoyed the same way by millions in the same capacity as a fucking screenshot? It’s obviously different than owning a physical piece you absolute mongoloids. That would be like a musical artist being like “this is the original render of my song, $10000 please”. And then putting “the copies” on iTunes for $1 each. If you don’t understand how retarded that sounds you’re honestly an idiot

>>29350986
I have so many magic cards to sell. Could make an easy k from my fetch lands alone but I'm a mtg holder by nature

>>29353004
You’ve gotta make a wax wallet first.

https://all-access.wax.io/

>>29353080
I won't correct you, less competition for me kek.

>>29353258
>implying I would jump at every ponzi in existence for a chance to make money

>>29351783
..as long as Top Shot keeps their services up. Since it's all centralized, what do you do when they go out of business or decide to shutter the site?

>>29353504
why would they when they are probably making a fucking killing on it for doing almost nothing?

>>29352557
that literally does nothing. you people are fucking morons and deserve to lose all your money

>>29352957
I should have bought more.
It looks like the Garbage Pail Kids NFTs they had are selling for a good amount too.

>>29353489
>>29353591
Stay poor lmao, I'm up 97x because I'm not a retard

>>29353553
I'm saying it's not the same thing. Bitcoin will be around forever, your trading cards won't. That's the whole point of decentralizing.

Also note Top Shot is made by the same company that made cryptokitties. How are those doing nowadays?

>>29353080
these morons actually think being 'the owner' of a digital asset that literally everyone else in the world can access or copy for free has value. you have to give the jew who schemed this shit up credit though as it's total goy milkage

>>29353700
nobody gives a fuck about kitties. NBA has huge following. i expect that at a minimum nbatopshots will grow over the next few months and i might sell then while interest is high, but i might also hodl and risk it

>>29353621
Yeah, I have a few of those. Nostalgia makes for good money.

>>29353671
>>implying I would jump at every ponzi in existence for a chance to make money
Good job on turning your $100 into 9700. People with real money don’t give a shit

>>29353671
Wow you must be very rich

>>29353867
>>29353881
It's not too late for you bros, chuck in a few grand now and sell at the new ATH in 6-7 hours.

>>29353258
You won't correct him because you can't

>>29353504

Top shot could just switch to being a backdoor casino where they print booster packs of tokens and then buy them back at less than the expected value.

But yes, that's a risk of centralization. At the moment it's just a crypto with a different value proposition.

It probably even skirts the new tax laws against crypto currency. It's not a currency, it's a collectible. Taxible like any other income, but without the reporting requirement (in theory, no idea if this is true)

Why do retards spend thousands of dollars on cardboard Pokémon when they could spend hundreds of dollars on much cooler and even rarer resin Pokémon statues instead? They make less than 300 of these and they’re a lot cooler to look at than a piece of paper.

>>29353080

The fact that you can understand the value of crypto tokens represented by a floating point number but not crypto tokens represented by a jpg of Lebron James means you are being salvage.

Another Pokémon statue I’ve got on pre-order. Hoenn legendaries. Why would you want a card over this?

>>29354003
Where can you even buy OMI?

>>29351254
>paying for a digital picture of a nigger playing ape-hoop
LOL

>>29354213
Crypto tokens have value because we’re betting on them having a real utility one day. These “original” pictures of niggers will never have a real utility

>>29354842
Neither do trading cards

>>29354127

There is something psychological about something you can hold in your hand. Almost every collectible that has truly blown up has not only been something small enough to hold, but is intended to be held in a hand. Coins and cards are the big ones; their core function involved holding the item in your hand.

Even beanie babies worked this way; their small size and bean pellet filling have them a certain feel. Same story with pogs and marbles; in order to utilize them as intended you hold them in your hands. Dolls had existed for a very long time and weren't very collectible, but barbie dolls were handheld. Matchbox made diecast cars in the 50s, and original models were bigger than handheld size, display pieces more than anything. Hot wheels on the other hand were not only hand sized, but hand sized for small children, leading them to get nostalgic when they get older.

I know that's a lot of words for one idea, but I really want to hammer home this point. It's a VERY consistent pattern. It's why transformers outpaced all the other action figures short of barbie; the level of manipulation by hand during normal operation.

Don't expect anything that doesn't meet this criteria to pop off. Pikabellechu bought her Pikachu VW Beetle for like 5k, which was market value. The ears and tail had been removed; not only were the ears and tail not something that gave the car a premium, it actively diminished its value.

Hands are just psychologically important. Lord knows that I would much rather squeeze a titty than just look at one, and it's even more psychological gratifying than puting my dick between them.

>>29354842
The value is that you can now prove digital things are the original, just like physical things.

Why do CS skins and tf2 hats have value? Because you can't fake it on the servers.

>>29354600
Bitforex, uniswap and another exchange in March.

>>29354003
>>29354600
>>29355006
What about FLOW? I'm thinking of buying some on Gate.io

>>29355073
I have some, not as bullish since it has infinite supply. Good exposure to top shot, crypto kitties and the viv3 marketplace if you don't want to invest directly.

>>29354842

You are naive if you think they is the use case. BTC is 70% the market and is completely useless as a currency. It will never be able to scale and the fees are already outrageous. 70% of the money isn't going to bitcoin because of its value proposition.

You don't need to wait on these cards to have utility one day, they have utility now. They transfer faster and cheaper than anything else on the market, and they aren't subject to the same swings in price that come from having millions of a token available for people to pump and dump.

At the end of the day, if you can't see why a crypto token with represented by a cultural icon has meaningful value when compared to a crypto token represented by a number then you are beyond salvage. DOGE is a crypto token represented by the metaphysical concept of an internet meme embossed on a coin; it's relevant entirely because of the cultural context, even though it was literally designed to be a joke coin poking fun at cryptocurrency as a whole.

Can we all agree that, valuable or not, PSA cards are ugly as shit?
These cards should be only exposed in sleeves and toploaders. The PSA boxes are the ultimate jew trick.

I have my small collection of cards that I like and I made some bucks selling some cards on Ebay overpriced, like a Dark Charizard Holo first edition for $2500

im upset i can't get the shining fates ETB for retail because scalpers cleaned out the store while i was waging at home. and I refuse to enable the scalpers by paying 100+ for a box that costs 40 retail. Will it get better bros?

You have no fucking idea how scarce some of these are, the gains have been tremendous.

>>29355722
you can't convince me that BTC is hard money or anything more than a digital NFT of which only 21m exist. If BTC is money then so are magic/pokemon cards or beanie babies.

>>29350986
>sports cards
>collecting photos of men

>>29355978
nft gachas are coming soon anon.

now you can get rich off hodling rare anime girl bikini pics

>>29354874
Hence the entire reason I made this post. Trading cards are retarded, but digital pictures puts the icing on cake in this clown ass world

I’ve heard the prices on these cards is bullshit and that you can pretty much slice a solid 30-50% off the prices you see going around and that the liquidity is terrible

>>29356026
I know they are retarded but if I can make money on them is all that matters to me.

>>29356090
Well, I truly hope you get rugged on them big time one day my friend. A retard only learns his lesson by getting burned more than once

>>29356166
That's not very nice

>>29353080
while I agree that it is completely retarded, people like to collect shit. with blockchain you can verify authenticity of the original so this side of crypto will grow.

>>29356210
Stop buying gay digital cards and contributing to the madness

>>29353084
based

>>29355634
No. Adapt and pay people to not cards for you or perish. And by perish I mean pay resale.

>>29355978
They have pepe cards

>>29356302
Bot*

>>29355956
You're misunderstanding the demand for these particular cards for not only the collectable but also the demand for obtaining them to use in their deck. Magic has a 28 year track record you can look back to the gains have been tremendous in the last few years.

>>29355577

I agree entirely. I don't even like binder pages, I want to hold the card in my hand and absorb the cultural significance of the item into my brain.

It's a magic experience to hold something special or valuable like that in your hand raw. Most never have had a reason or the balls to do something like that, but it just hits different. A PSA case is like wearing two condoms; functionally useless and ruins the experience.

>>29350986
>>29351254

I was the Anon the other day messaging you on the NBA topshot thread.

This is my current value

>>29356286
>verify authenticity of the original
Do I need to spell this out for you? There is no fucking “original” you brainlet. There is literally zero difference between a blockchain signed original and a copy

>>29356026

It blows my mind that this board can see the value in crypto but not trading cards.

Even when you turn the cards into crypto tokens their brains just short circuit.

>>29356459
stay poor

>>29356437
Holy shit man. What should I do? Just start buying up Series 1 moments on the marketplace?

>>29356459
nobody tell this guy about forged art lmao, he'll implode

>>29351364
I opened commander legends draft box, some decent finds but didnt quite get my moneys worth(not that i care, i just wanted to open some packs). Kaldhem seems like a good box to get.

>>29356487
Like I already said, crypto tokens in their current form are more or less completely worthless. Most people on the board understand. They only have value because we’re betting on the technology playing a vital role in our lives in the future. My god you’re dense

>>29356523

Like I said yesterday, wait for the next pack drops and buy the glut. Normies are going to get packs and see potential 2x and immediately sell and undercut each other, it's easy money once the moments go LE.

i bought a bunch of factory sealed booster boxes and starter decks from the 1995 simcity card game on ebay earlier
i experienced a dizzying rush of euphoria as i paid

>>29356510
>stay poor
Ah nice, the most midwitted remark in biz history. Stay retarded

>>29356621
How long does the "glut" period last after a pack drop? Like a few hours?

>>29356534
Go back

>>29356709

Before I've seen it last for 1 week.

Also for some reason when expensive packs are ready to drop, retards sell their moments to get wallet balance to buy it so watch out for that.

>>29356807
Well there was a pack drop yesterday, but prices have gone up since then it seems.

I guess I'm going to have to just get a feel for what is a good price. I just look at past sales and see what people have been getting. I'm still pretty confident that everything will pump hard when NBA start shilling it hard

>>29356888

Use the websites below to gauge growth, the second website is mint, lets you look at market cap for specific cards and their sales record.

Crypto Slam
Evaluate (dot) market

>>29356621
>Normies are going to get packs and see potential 2x and immediately sell
So you don't just buy the packs directly, you wait and buy the moments from the marketplace?

>>29357085

I got in super early when I could multiple packs and I sat on all the moments I got. I will obviously be buying all the packs but the biggest opportunity now is the marketplace and challenges.

Do I haaaaave to sign up via Google, damn that sucks

>>29357080
Thanks, checking it out now.

>>29357182
>challenges
Are these worth doing if I only have a couple thousand to spend?

>>29356595

Dude, the technology is the blockchain, it's not the token.

Why would anyone be buying BTC or ETH on the promise of technology? It would be like buying the iPhone 1 on the premise that the smartphone is going to change how we live our lives. If it was about the technology then the old shit would fade away and people would buy the new shit.

>>29354341
>Why would you want a card over this?
cause cards also have dope artwork duh

hey guise whats up

>>29356595
>They only have value because we’re betting on the technology playing a vital role in our lives in the future
really?

>>29357223

Ya challenges are worth it, I completed Kevin Durant challenge and it got me a $35K card and I dumped in $550 back when nobody was putting any money here to complete it.

But make sure it's a good player, I saw there was no KD moments out so there was huge opportunity.

>>29357348

God bless America.

>>29357390
Looks like the only good play with a current challenge is Anthony Davis. I'll look into it.

How confident are you that this is not going to be a big rugpull?

>>29357390
Btw, you are saying you spent 550 and got a card worth 35k? Sounds too good to be true man.

>>29357636

70K users that have bought and sold, and they're partnered with NBA.

They have every incentive not to rug pull makes no sense, ya it could go up and down but pretty sure it's going to keep consistently growing else I would of sold everything I had.

Holding my current 180 moments until I have 3 - 5M.

>>29357742
>what is a ponzi scheme

>>29357784

You're retarded.

>>29357742

Just like how I spent 1ETH months ago and my whole account is worth $170K. I could sell everything right now but I want to get rewarded more for being in early. Do whatever you want with that info.

>>29357862
>I could sell everything right now but I want to get rewarded more for being in early
Literally describing a Ponzi scheme you dumbfuck. Imagine thinking a YouTube video of men playing niggerball is worth thousands of dollars. The rug pull is going to be glorious

>>29357767
Well it's gonna cost me like $3k to do the cool cats challenge. That's quite a lot of me to lose so I'm not sure if I can stomach it. I'll have to think about this.

One thing I'm concerned about it that once normal NBA fans start getting in they will just release a bunch of cheap moments and nobody will ever care about the expensive moments other than a couple random autists.

>>29357080
>Use the websites below to gauge growth, the second website is mint, lets you look at market cap for specific cards and their sales record.
>Crypto Slam
>Evaluate (dot) market

Paying 7 ETH for a virtual F1 car wtf??

https://cryptoslam.io/f1-delta-time

>>29357925

Suck my dick you faggot, just wait and watch. Keep holding your faggot ass trash alts that will crab and go nowhere.
>Rug pull on NBA sponsorship with huge fanbase

>>29357926
Ya don't put more than you can stomach, no need to risk everything.

>>29357978
Ya it shows all NFT websites.

>>29358107
Seethe more. The rugpull won’t be in a traditional sense, one day people will wake up and realize the things they can do with money and not spend it on your gay videos

>>29358107
What do you think about this?
https://uproxx.com/dimemag/nba-top-shot-historic-moments-basketball-history/

Is anyone really going to care about the relatively uninteresting moments being released right now when classic Michael Jordan moments become available?
https://uproxx.com/dimemag/nba-top-shot-historic-moments-basketball-history/

>>29358193

Lmao the Michael Jordan deal will take months alone to negotiate. They have contracts with NBA, NBPA not the NBRPA so you can imagine how long that would take with his name.

>>29358272
So you are just planning to cash out before then?

>>29358190
Niggers are still spending $10,000 on shoes

There will always be a market for anything

>>29355073
Flows got some good rich backers, plus the whole basketball/ufc thing going.
Not a bad call.

>>29358319

No, I'll still be in.

>>29358366
What about the infinite supply thing?

>>29358381
You're gonna hodl for years?

>>29358348
>I have $10,000 what should I spend it on?
>hmmm, it’s between an NBA moments NFT and a pair of jordans
>tough choice right?
>YouTube search “kawai Leonard buzzer beater”
>well now that that’s out of my system, I’ll just get the shoes
Like I said, the rugpull is gonna be glorious

>>29358478

Ya 5 years at least.

>>29358190
You sound like such a reddit faggot.
You must want to hang yourself when you take a look at the CS:GO market prices

>B-b-b-BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE MONEY OFF SOMETHING VIRTUAL

>Hahaha virgin my cards go BRRRRRRR

Screenshot this and see where NBA Topshot is in 2 years, you'll put the gun in your mouth when you know you let it slip.

>>29358598
What do you think about this challenge? Worth it? I could probably be good with spending 2000 on this.
https://www.nbatopshot.com/challenges/97cbebd5-b224-4f8c-8047-0b6175194195

>>29358657
>>29358598
Oh and isn't the demand for these random cards going to plummet once the challenge ends? I'm afraid they will dump hard

>>29358598
>you sound like a Reddit faggot
>leddit spacing
>unironically uses the word lmao
I think you’re projecting a little too hard there

>>29351254
I used to collect NBA cards as a kid, tried to buy some last year, they were awful... nothing but black squares.

qrd on this digital card bs? i thought i was doing alright making 10k driving to macdonalds, but this thread has almost redpilled me

My old blue eyes is beaten and worn and I wouldn't have it any other way.

>>29351254
Literally the most faggotted shit since fucking a man in the ass was invented

>>29357348
the jews fear the indoor cardboard merchant

>>29358598
Also
>29358598
>Hahaha virgin
When describing an activity that only virgins give a shit about. I don’t want to hang myself when I check csgo prices because I’ve never checked them, never will, and don’t give a fuck about your s.o.i boy Ponzi schemes even if it makes you money

>dollar go brrr
>commodities and other assets go ath
what is so hard to understand?

>>29358657
>>29358697

I'd say do it. But ya generally cards fall in value after completion, but the card you get makes up for any lost value initially.

>>29358710
Cope more that you missed out faggot top kek.

Bet you won't screenshot what I said and put a reminder for two years because you're scared you might have to end it all.

>Pic related is you

>>29358882
Nah, I won’t screenshot it because like I said, I don’t give a shit about your faggot collectibles. You could be making billions and the only people in the world that would turn a head is your legion of incels.

>>29358882
>I'd say do it. But ya generally cards fall in value after completion, but the card you get makes up for any lost value initially.
Well the challenge has 8 more days so should I just sell them before the challenge ends?

>>29351732
>my dad taught me to cherish and protect everything I bought.
ie not play with it

>>29358935

>You could be making billions and the only people in the world that would turn a head is your legion of incels.

Kek you sound like such a loser, you think I actually watch the NBA or give a single fuck about the NBA.

>N-N-N-NOOOOOO YOU CAN ONLY MAKE MONEY THE BOOOMER WAY
>THAT'S NOT ALLOWEDDDDDD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>29359050
You’re actually fucking cringe faggot. I can tell by the way you speak online that you’re a friendless, kissless loser. No amount of money you ever get will change that. Keep coping and writing in all caps though

>>29359050
>reddit spacing
>all caps
>collects digital videos of black men
>calling other people losers
you really can’t make this up can you

>>29359050
thats exactly how my mom is acting about crypto and these pokemon cards.
>QUIT MAKING $1K/DAY AND APPLY FOR A REAL JOB MAKING $12/HR

>>29359189

Sneed more and keep projecting

Absolutely copiumed out of your mind

>>29359418
>based anon is a sneedposter all along
based and sneedpilled

>>29359307
>my mom
Babby’s first bull run huh? Wait till the bear market dump and you lose those shitcoin paper gains in the span of a week

>>29359550
been into crypto almost a decade. i know the cycle

>>29357348
You should post that on /vp/ they will love you

>>29360317
im planning to. got another 2000 cards coming tomorrow.

bump

>>29359189
You will never, ever be a woman

>>29358882
>>29358697
>I'd say do it. But ya generally cards fall in value after completion, but the card you get makes up for any lost value initially.
I just realized that I have to wait until the challenge is over to even sell FFFFFFFFFFFF