/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>29281133
Fuck kikes.

Baking.

>>29281151
I came here from /pol/ after following the stock market hype a few weeks ago. Ever since then I haven’t gone back, and have completely grown out of my racism. I now respect black people and Jews. Thanks fellas, it’s much more comfy here.

only started trading on new years, I'm up from 9.5k to 25k from GME and CCIV. But I'm wondering if I should even go into crypto at all.

I have no idea what crypto is or how it works, do you guys make more money from crypto or from stonks? Is it even worth researching?

stop saying "average down" and "average up"

cunny

>>29281226
Yes. I am the same. Racism is now gone and I feel 10x stronger and healthier. I can finally get an erection again

I came here from /pol/ after following the stock market hype a few weeks ago. Ever since then I haven’t gone back, and have completely grown out of my racism. I now respect black people and Jews. Thanks fellas, it’s much more comfy here.

>>29281233
I make more money from stocks because most of my gains have been in my retirement account, which I can't liquidate to buy crypto. However I don't see a problem with trading crypto. I bought $1000 of BTC at $30,000. Currently waiting for a big pullback to buy more.

>>29281233
>do you guys make more money from crypto or from stonks?

being straight with you, yes people who buy crypto have historically made more money than people who trade more stocks, if you think that will keep up, then go ahead and buy some.

>>29281133
I tell you hwhat you guys and your options,calls, and puts dont know what you're missing out on. You and your get rich quick schemes will get you nowhere. Nothing will ever beat a portfolio full of those sweet and sage dividends. I say make your money work for you

>>29281133
> the stock is trading... from INSIDE THE HOUSE

>>29281233
The only memecoin worth anything is maybe XMR but you'd have to be one of those libertarians on a holy crusade for Linux.
Better to just hold the crypto miner equities as leveraged plays against shitcoins being FOMO'd in general. Sell the shovels instead of digging for gold, etc.

>>29281233
I don’t touch crypto. Only stocks for me.

>>29281226
Well, blacks and jews still don't respect you.

baking

>>29281353
Has any crypto beat SOXL?

Gnikab

>AAIRF
>American Aires, Inc. engages in the research and development of electromagnetic protector technology. It specializes in production, distribution and sales of devices intended to protect persons from the harmful effects of electromagnetic emissions that are emitted by modern electronic devices. Its products include protective layer, Aires K-8 microprocessor, KDR-2 resonator-antenna, Base, and Adhesive layer. The company was founded by Dimitry Serov, and Igor Serov in 2000 and is headquartered in Vaughan, Canada.

Tinny would have liked that

How do I short the pacific northwest

>AAPL
Applebros...

Broiling.

>>29281033
Suite 801 10655 NE 4th St., Bellevue, WA 98004, US
DigitalTown's offices don't look super spoopy

So if Buffett is selling AAPL is he getting out of cash then?
kek

>>29281491

https://www.investopedia.com/apple-aapl-could-sell-off-to-110-5113284

I bought at $130 I have no idea what to do, I'm scared shitless cuz my entire life savings is in this stock

Microwaving.

>>29281233
I've gone up 5x on my crypto holdings since summer and I don't really actively manage it. I just swing shitcoins on goybase. I have no idea what any of my coins do and don't care

>>29281233
Crypto is a ponzi scheme, the value of a coin has no basis in the physical world and so is liable to arbitrary and extreme fluctuations.
People make a lot of money and lose a lot of money, basically randomly. I don't touch it.

>not just eating the raw /smg/ thread batter
NGMI. Enjoy baking out the nutrients...

>>29281295
averaging down is a thing tho...
don't know why someone would "average up."
even on a short position you would say average down, ie bringing average cost/breakeven down

>>29281565
Tim's compensation is tied to the share price (he did the split pump right before he sold) so just hodl.

>>29281511
Keybank Building > Debunking bilk ya

Frens, seriously, should I sell my UAL on Monday or just ride it out? How far can it dip? Should I just use this opportunity to buy more?

>>29281565
I bought at 135 and I'm going to sell around noon on Monday to rotate into something else. Sometimes the timing is just off...

>>29281565
You shouldn't be gambling your life savings on a trade you aren't 100% sure is going to go up, lol.

>>29281673
>Holding airlines
Why?

>boeing bros

>>29281673
>airlines
You knew you were signing up for 1-2 years of bagholding when you got it. You ignored debt. You ignored overcapitalization. You ignored shellshocked cash flow. You ignored the strong possibility of equity offerings and an industry known for needing bankruptcies to recover.
All because of "PENT UP DEMAND" memes. Now wallow in it.

>>29281660
I think they have a suite in that building
I put down the address in case anyone else wanted to google earth with me to look around for other spots it could be in
It looks like DigitalTown is working on smart city tech like the shit in that vidya Watch Dogs
But I don't speak spanish

What are the best indicators to use for technical analysis?

>>29281448
Are you talking about since SOXL's inception? Cause in that case there's dozens of coins that have outpaced SOXL. BTC, ETH, LTC, LINK, etc. This one coin I got called GRT has gone up 2000% since it came out 3 months ago and in that same time, SOXL has gone up 30 something percent, but there's always that risk of whatever coin you hold suddenly losing -20%+ for no apparent reason.

THE GOLDEN BULL RUN
ALLOW THE SPY TO REACH 700

>>29281733
>>29281837
It's been fine so far though.

>>29281491
What’s wrong with APPL?

>>29281887
and it's going to keep being "fine" for a good long while, lol

>>29281920
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>29281798
Diversity is our strength

>>29281869
the number one indicators are moving averages and the number two indicators are the different oscillators/indexes based off of them.
so RSI, Disparity Index, or Bollinger Bands

>>29281260
HEAR YE HEAR YE
THE BANCOR THREAD IS OPEN FOR ALL DEFI NERDS

>>29281894
It's the only thing in my portfolio that's in the red since I bought it. Everything else is a gain in the long term.
Also this:
https://www.investopedia.com/apple-aapl-could-sell-off-to-110-5113284

>go from 300k to 800k+ in a year
>still nothing compared to CRYPTOCHADS makeing 10000% gains weekly
Sometimes I wonder where I went wrong in life.

>The 1099 import service for Robinhood - Robinhood Securities is currently unavailable, Please try your import again on February 21st, 2021 at 9:00 AM PT.
I stayed up until 3:00 AM ET for this shit.

>>29282019
>things that never happened

>>29281842
> incorporated in America
> based in Canada
> site in Spanish
> 80s cash register company now making urban tracking systems
It gets weirder every day.

>>29281673
The only airline you should move into is NAS.OL after the dilute that is which was said to happen around the end of Feb. I don't have new info, but the price will drop to some 0,5-0,7 $ and that would be the lowpoint. Then you only need the company to survive.... If it does, it will at least 10x over the course of several months.

I'll update my shill pasta and start posting it again.

>>29281874
SOXL has done like a 76x since inception..

Why are you guys not cashing out with the biggest crash imminent this year?

I pre much withdrew everything and just left a portion in commodities, rest in gold/silver/buttcoin and a house. Cashing in the bubble now is literally just picking pennies in front of a steamroller.

>>29282012
Wew lad. Glad it’s not in my portfolio. I’m sure it’ll be fine though.

Now that Biden is President, isn’t the virus completely gone now? What’s the story???

>>29282132
Do you actually have a reason to believe the market will crash, or are you just a pussy that thinks a good thing can't last?

>>29281842
They designed some website austin.city that was supposed to let your search within austin to buy locally etc. All the rest have been press releases. Most of the upper management seem to be house flippers.

>>29282132
> being a bear
HSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAVAHAVAHDAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What can I do to improve

>>29282141
I'm sure it'll be fine too but I just bought it a week ago so I'd rather just eat the loss and buy something else.

>>29281869
SNEED index

>>29281640
no thats retarded

>>29282162
People claim this literally every day

>>29281869
I use fib lines, keltner channels and 200 moving averages.

>>29282211
why?

>>29282183
purchase BTWN

>>29281869
RSI, everything else is shit

90% of technical analysis comes from the red/green hatsushimoto candlesticks that everyone sees

>>29282132
Most money to be made is near the end of a bubble. Just have to hedge to buy time for you to liquidate. SPY 320p for July are only like $700

>>29282065
Why do you think Norwegian will survive? Wasnt it having problems pre-covid also?

>>29281133
>thumbnail
>greentexts the whole thing
>actually managed to link the last thread properly
well it's a 3/10 OP do better next time please.

>>29282232
I know, I'm just wondering why.

>>29282065
That ticker doesn't work and I'm really drunk. So yeah.

>>29282132
More like picking up hundos in front of a steamroller.
#YOLO!
$OXL!

>>29282124
bitcoin did a 5000x since inception

>>29282124
I'm well aware of this and every single coin I mentioned outside of GRT dwarfs those returns on the same timeframe.

>>29281607
Gonna fill you with batter

>>29282311
Soxl makes actual good products, though. You can't EAT a bitcoin, or play vidya on it...

Alright. No fucking around. Is DGTW haunted or no? Is there a curse upon those who buy shares????

>>29282274
China will collapse sooner or later. Aging population and they nuked their youngered generations. Barely 100million millenials and half as many zoomers. Combine that with a shit military that cant even protect their own trade routes, and the fact their country is just a Enron if it was a gov’t. CN’t imagine this shit hitting the fan and not affecting the US

>>29282370
Basically everyone who browses /x/ has at least 1k shares. Take that as you will.

>>29282037
Don't know why that's hard to believe in the greatest bull run of all time outside of the dotcom bubble and with people making those kind of returns or more with GME calls in a few days.

>>29282370
Volume looks kinda shit

>>29282390
Ok, so it's based on bullshit.

>>29282311
Btc was hundreds of dollars before anyone actually knew about it. Saying you could have bought it for .01 when like two guys were mining isnt a reasonable starting point

>>29282413
Look, saying retarded shit doesn't make you right.

>>29282057
>>29282177
I think I've heard of "Digital Nomads" before
Aren't they that American hostel start up that /pol/ keeps citing as an example of pod people?
https://dms.licdn.com/playback/C4D05AQEkRvWmKjdNbA/896657c376b94c6aa52fa5c30d5945f3/feedshare-mp4_3300-captions-thumbnails/1507940147251-drlcss?e=1613984400&v=beta&t=Y2xJYA5j65_x4eXNmuIDfb4Q9oTUi4cF63uv8t2z0H0

>>29282132
The market ain't gonna crash when there's another stimulus right around the corner.

>>29281991
>>29282190
>>29282231
>>29282245
What about the MACD?

>>29282390
>China collapses
>Taiwan no longer in danger of invasion
>Taiwan Semiconductor Stock to the MOOOOOOON!!!
>SOXL hits 1000 again within months of the March split

>>29282132
Because there's not really much that says a crash is coming anytime soon with the fed maintaining bond purchases and all that. Don't tell me you fell for the FUD by MSM.

>>29282405
DGTW is making its way to /x/ threads???

Any anons selling covered calls on PLTR this week? What strikes and DTE are you looking at?

>>29282443
I heard sbout bitcoin in 2011 when it was 3 dollars
I remember because someone offered me 10 bitcoin for gas money and I told them to fuck off with gay internet funbux and give me cash

>>29282431
You cant shift losses into dummy corps forever. Eventually shit will hit the fan. Maybe not this year, but sometime. And the time bomb gets bigger everyday it doesnt blow

>>29282530
I'm not at liberty to say. I know nothing.

>>29282504
don't think it's really necessary as price action in relation to a single MA is more prescient than two MA's in relation to eachother

>>29282530
It’s a literally spoopy ghost stock
The ceo is a fuckin vampire who’s been dead for a decade and pays his lawyer in gasoline-cleaned gold coinage

>>29282140
Power

>>29282561
Of course those 10 BTC are worth half a million now

>>29282451
Cope

>>29282616
NoU

>>29282615
In my defense he was a massive dick and I needed to get gas

>>29282245
Even RSI can give false signals. I sometimes see it on crypto.
Sometimes I see it around 30's and it still can tank, likewise with being at/over 70 and it still can rise.

>>29281133
Can someone tell me where I can trade bay horse silver/BHS? I tried to on vanguard/etrade but neither list their shares, not sure what that's about.

>>29281600
>the value of a coin has no basis in the physical world

Neither does the dollar. FDR sold all the gold backing USD and now it’s entirely up to the fed what money is worth. Obviously crypto is more volatile but they’re both just abstract ideas that only are worth what the people say they are

>>29282572
The way I see it, the government can just keep printing more money. The value comes out of the bank accounts of people who keep most of their money in banks (lol), and the money from stim checks just flows up into corporations through consumer spending or through people just buying stocks.
It's perfect! We get free gainz for years and later they'll just tax the goi.

>>29282555
Checked. If it has another 10%+ spike sometime this week, I'll just sell whatever strike has a delta of 20-30. I'll probably just stick to selling weeklies for now till it starts to crab at some point.

>>29282602
>gas cleaned gold coins

Wtf are you talking about

>>29282615
It would have taken a divine vision from the future to deduce that the US was about to enter a recession it has yet to escape. And that corporations would dogpile into short term gains at the expense of growth with large buyback programs. And then, that they would get hit with a black swan event that would reduce the cashflow available for more buybacks so they would pivot to the short term value multiplier of just buying BTC.

>>29282262
Multiple reasons make me believe (!)
1. It's an essential mean of travel in scandinavia, especially north. A lot of people depend on it and at least intra-norway flights will be a strong base

2. Norwegian government pumped tax money into it twice already, further lowering it's will to see it go under with it's money.

3. The restructuring plan they made is pretty radical and will cut a LOT of costs and ideas that were too bold even pre-737Max world.

Also the people like it because the company chose wisely the name and logo, very close to the norwegian heart. And Norwegians do tend to have this attitude of protecting and supporting common wealth.

>>29282733
>he doesn't polish his gold with pure gasoline
ngmi

>>29282457
She kind of reminds me of my middle school gf

>>29282733
Removes fingerprints.

>>29282370
I 3x'ed it and dropped it. Total nothing but buzzwords stock. I would trust the staff to renovate one of my properties. But yes it is cursed.

>>29282443
I knew about bitcoin back in 2010
I was just a faggot teenager, but I knew roughly what it was, and that it cost something like a few dollars

>>29282742
>And that corporations would dogpile into short term gains at the expense of growth with large buyback programs.
how exactly does stock buyback translate to short term gains?

Is Barrick’s GOLD worth buying into? Troy ounces of gold can’t possibly go back to 1200, can they?

>>29282033
Absolutely ridiculous. So glad I left rabbihood.

>>29282065
Stop spamming that shit company lol. It will never recover and will go bankrupt.
>Investing in airlines from Norway during a pandemic
Go invest in some Somalian airline too, dude

>>29282856
I was quick on the draw on Bitcoin but I was in high school and didn’t think they’d ever be used for anything other than buying drugs on the dark web. Those 350btc sheets of acid haunt me to this day.. at least I’m “woke” now..

>>29282731
I agree completely.
Though I dont think you can do it forever.
These big organizations have certainly learned from the past and are ready for the most likely scenarios. I think chinas is fucked, america will dip hard, billionaires buy the dip, china crumbles thaiwan and misc countries produce widgets, and world goes on without there really being any moments that fucked the system. Inflation and chinese dummy corps take the fall. Probably can ad any reg they want internationally and domestically as a results.

>>29282763
Didn't the owners saiy that they were just going to create another airline and let Norwegian airlines die? :)
You only cherry pick the info that looks good huh

>>29283009
>Go invest in some Somalian airline too
I mean they have at least one helicopter so it might work out.

There are people in this thread right now that think China will collapse rather than establish complete economic hegemony and overtake the stagnating US as the worlds leading superpower for 200 years. Why do you think all my money is in Chinese investments?

>>29281302
Imagine having a prez tweeting stats from a "crime statistics bureau" that does not exist. Phew. It is obvious that the stonks don't care who is at the helm.

>>29283147
Proof of your portfolio?

>>29282912
>how exactly does stock buyback translate to short term gains?
You are taking profit and putting it into financial assets i.e. shares to reduce float and increase share price. Nothing about capex, expansion, hiring, etc. Buybacks are great in general when given to employees to give skin in the success of the company but it was greatly exaggerated following 2009.
One of the major reasons for the corporate debt bubble has been the liquidity locked into shares instead of growth of companies for nearly a decade.

>>29283147
>There are people in this thread right now that think there will be a China

>>29283009
Norwegians actually have the funds to hold up their one national airline. They have done it to Scandinavian Airlines for decades. Not saying that it is a great investment, just saying that it is likely not to go bankrupt.

>>29283147
>chinese stonks
I concur. I am waiting for my HUYA and DOYU bag to pop. Just as soon as this anti-competition bureau get their bribes paid, or whatever they want from Pony Ma. Wish I could trade directly in Shanghai. I doubt any interesting Chinese IPOs will happen after Trump put his foot in it.

>>29283147
Cause you always paste your retarded pasta in every thread and have never posted proof you own any chink stock. I’ve put on my tin foil hat and just assume your a chink shill. Try harder next time Xi.

>>29283147
I am not investing in a system that can literally break up your company and make your shit worthless within a second.
You have no idea what Xi's successor will do. Or Xi himself if he grows even more suspicious of the west.

>"But China is growing! And wealthy! And great for investments!"
Say the Chinese. Some gains are not worth the risk.

>>29283147
>>29283181
yeah post portfolio bro

>>29283147
Remember when everyone in china had like a carrot and potato for the whole senpai to eat for a week during corona.
China is fine for pumping and dumping, quick ins-n-outs, but
>investing in China
Why would someone do that to themselves? It was only a few years ago china economy randomly tanked 30%. That whole countries is a giant fucking Enron. Fuck that shit. And US sanctions starting arent helping. They are a hair away from not being able to buy oil with USD. kek
They must have a great war machine that doesnt need fuel or food

STAY AWAY FROMN USA SPAC COMPANIES!!!ALL ARE LOBBYIST DIRTY POLITCIAN INSIDE TRADING SCHEMES.

>>29283380
> xi is paying shills to post on 4chan and accumulate bagholders
> the need to accumulate means that the rugpull is still far away
BULLISH FOR CHINA

>>29283147
The chinese don't invest in chinese equities. Wealth is held in tangible assets there. The really wealthy chinese just buy shitloads of land.

Bros, why am I signficiantly up in the stock market and it seems like everyone on /smg/ too despite literally every website and post on the internet about the stock market saying that 95% of people lose money.
We can't just be a huge statistical anomoly can we? I....i'm going to lose all my monies in the future, aren't I?

>>29283403
>It was only a few years ago china economy randomly tanked 30%
Sounds like Wall Street in March 2020

>>29283147
I watched EH drop -50% in a day and almost every chink stock I've looked at has a lawsuit against them. The China Hustle has feared me into never buying a chink stock.

>>29283147
China won't collapse.
China will rise as the strongest economy this decade.
Holding WIMI, the leader in AR/VR, sectors which according to Ark invest will x130 in this decade.
And Urban Tea, a tea + crypto mining penny stock. Sounds autistic enough to work

>>29281233
i made much more money from crypto
only got into stocks to diversify so I'm not overexposed to single market
but even that is a meme because in March everything crashed together all the same

>>29283467
That wasnt fucking “random” we had a real black swan event happen. It didn't just tank cause its shit.
We didnt even have 3 quarters or losses from corona and shutdowns kek
We didnt even technically have a depression or recession.

>>29283463
>I....i'm going to lose all my monies in the future, aren't I?
yes, quit whilst you're ahead

>>29283463
>95% of people lose money
Over what length of time?

>>29283542
>We didnt even technically have a depression or recession
The economy has been in the same recession from 2009 for more than a decade.

>>29283463
>95% of people lose money.
sorry but i can't believe this statistic

>>29283580
Google 90/90/90 rule

>>29283463
>95% of people lose money.
sorry but i can't believe this statistic, even if you buy at random you have a coinflip chance of 50% on every trade and if you hold long term historically there is no way you ever lost money unless you sold the bottom

imagine thinking airlines are going to recover

>>29283542
No country has recovered from 2008 if you adjust for inflation. Most of companies are zombies that will die when interest rates go up.

>>29282019

Don't be sad, man.

Most of us lose everything in Crypto.

More than doubling your money is legendary. Throw yourself a party and be happy, my dude!

>>29281798
Are you buying the dip on Monday, or is it still a short no matter how deep the dip is?

>>29283652
Imagine not realising that business travel will never come back, that the new strains will be always a problem for international travelling and new technologies like Hyperloop and eVtols will make airlines obsolete

>>29283463
I don't understand it either honestly. I'm up over 100%. If I had to guess I would say I piggyback off mainstream plays and don't take chances on hype stuff. GME was mainly institutional money and some people got rich but ti probably had more retail investors jumping in than any other stock this year. That means tons of people lost money. There are tons of people getting shaken out on penny stocks or cons everyday. I'm surprised how few people just read CNBC everyday and check some forums then learn how to read financial reports and get to know the CEO and staff, then put their money in an easy play. Look at EHang...why was that valued at over 100 dollars?

>>29283602
You need 3 quarters in a row in the red.
Hasn't happened since 08/09 i believe.
Yeah shit ranked in corona but the whole world went on lockdown. Everything fucking tanked hard. Cause every business fucking closed. Yet, US markets managed to rake in record dough anyways. Real companies. American companies.

>>29283009
This post is 100% amerimutt. Norwegian was the worlds largest low-cost carrier before covid and if a country has the money to bail out an airline, it's Norway. Fucking ignorant dipshit.

>>29283777
>You need 3 quarters in a row in the red.
Deduct the Fed money printing. That definition is arbitrary.
>Yet, US markets managed to rake in record dough anyways
Sauce

>>29283542
The 2018 Chinese crash wasn't random, and it wasn't 30%

>>29283718
> GME was mainly institutional money and some people got rich but ti probably had more retail investors jumping in than any other stock this year
It wasn't even in the too ten retail buys

I can tell you what's gonna happen permabears
>you sell all your stocks tryng to time the market
>no crash like March 2020 happens, so you just wait patiently while many companies grow and pay divvies which you do not receive
>it reaches new ATH
>you fomo in
>it retracts again because fuck you that's how it always is
>you post pink wojaks and sell sell sell
>others continue growing by simply DCA

>>29283707
Delusional thinking

>>29283013
kek seems like every other person including me bought sheets of acid for double or triple digit BTC in the past

>>29283814
It was before trump admin. I dont remember exactly when. I remember news and stuff talking about it.
Fuck chinas bullshit.
How do you even DD a chinese company? Maybe some of the big ones you kinda can but shiiiiiiiiiit. Fuck that chink shit. I gotta get real desperate on plays to look at chink shit. Might as well just buy crypto on margin with rhat level of risk

>>29283707
8/8 almost got me

>>29283835
I'm saying GME but I guess i'm referring to all of the buys that had a sort of crash because of it. You are probably right anyway because I didn't research or really get into the GME stuff. I am trying to figure out what that post is trying to figure out too though because I am not a professional trader. I'm assuming those 90 percent are people that just jump into a pump and dump scheme and then flee the market.

>>29283783
I'm from Europe. Air travel is dead and Norwegian is by far the worst performer during the pandemic for a reason, retard. They can just make another airline when air travel demand recovers and let the bankrupt one die. You guys are painfully optimistic about bankrupt companies. It fell from like 4€ to 0'05€ before the reverse split. The dilution was just pathetic, they created bilions of shares. It's never going to recover.

>>29283163

Imagine believing a tweet image posted on 4chan is real

>>29283980
Check the Shanghai charts. They gained about 80% sharply in a year and then it retracted 80% after which it went up again. Then the next crash came due to trade war 2018.
DD on Chinese companies is tricky, but if Tencent can trust it, so can you. Just gotta guess what they want to snap up next. Huya and Doyu has gained me 100% but I got diamond hands. Holding until 2023 or until it goes private.

I'm surprised more people are not talking about the fact that there's a shareholder meeting in June and shares need to be recalled to vote. Also the Chewy gang Ryan installed was compensated shares that vest on the date of the next annual shareholder meeting. Redditors will probably try to nominate DFV or Elon Musk to the board kek.

>>29283163
anon.... that tweet is fake.

>>29283835

bullshit it absolutely was

>>29284181
Sure, but you can wait until May before setting up a position for a possible shitfest caused by shareholders recalling shares.

>>29281302
>>29284209

Well, I just checked and it's a real tweet by Trump. When i'm wrong i'm wrong and admit it. Did not think that was real lol.

Found another DigitalTown in Italy
Their list of employees had an employee in Wuhan too

>>29282132
>implying the markets can crash with the fed backing them up

DNN bros...I think we got memed...

>>29284213
>CDPR in Poland
KURWA

>>29282443

I explicitly remember discovering the darkweb and bitcoin when I was 15. I considered buying a bunch at $6 a piece.
No major regrets since I certainly would have sold at $1000 or something, but you're wrong in thinking that nobody knew about it. Maybe you're just a massive newfag.

>>29284181
That’s a lot of time for theta to burn. I’ll wait a few months for gambling some money on calls

>>29284332
this place looks like a fucking dump

>>29284263
They neglected to offer guidance but said they expect a profitable Q4, which would be their first profitable quarter in a while. It could go like this:
>March: Earnings beat
>April: Notice that shares need to be recalled (like last year)
>Melt upward until June, everyone hypes their nominees for the board
>Thousands of Redditors show up to the annual meeting wearing red headbands

Genuine questions for anyone who's a true GME believer. I don't see how "customer service" will be a draw for gamers. Anyone I know doesn't have any problems with platforms as a whole. The only problems comes from shit games and it's not like distributors can solve that. So what would customer service draw look like. Second if you do think Cohen can flip the company what is your price target and why? I'm looking at a PT of 25-30 assuming Cohen actually makes them profitable. (So I think it's still incredibly overvalued.)

>>29284213
well maybe i'm right then, that 90 percent is just people hopping on a random bandwagon and then swearing off the market forever......

I think I also feel inadequate as the only people posting their portfolios on /smg/ have over 500 percent gains or massive losses or something

Is this a massive buy signal? Or is physical gold going to continue its descent back to 1200 a Troy oz?

>>29283463

The statistic is 95% of >retail< investors who trade >options< lose money. That's probably pretty close to the truth. The vast majority of people who just buy a bunch of stocks make money. Sometimes a even a whole lot of money.

>>29284462
But what are the odds it continues after what with console season being done remember they were literally on deaths door and expected to be bankrupt before the end of last year.

>>29283809

All word definitions are arbitrary you retard. Everyone but you agrees about what a recession is and we aren't in one.

>>29284209
I dont post fake Trumps

>>29284519
That's what Cohen is for, changing the business model.

>>29283618
What makes it true is that a lot of people stop the second they lose money.

>>29284474
Buffet bought the top and sold the bottom so ya it’s a buy

>>29284474
How many times are you going to ask this?
Do you think gold will go back to 1200/oz? Why would it?
If yes, then maybe don't open a position. If no, then that is a good buy since its so oversold. A lot of money can be made buying irrationally hated assets. Up to you to decide if GOLD is.
>>29284462
A share recall would be the only thing worth my time to gamble on. Retail holdings are still pathetically small with GME.

>>29284332
Everyone in North Italy is from Wuhan. Not even trying to be racist or anything, they have a big fucking deal. Remember corona infecting Italy before anywhere else outside China?
Still tho, having a place in North itsly is sketch.
But where else would be a better place to do whatever the fuck digital town actually does

>>29284629
I can’t tell if you’re being facetious, please help kek I assumed people worshipped Buffett

OPEN THE DOOR

ITS REAL

>>29284720
weekends are long huh

>>29284754
its sucks

>>29284808
Whats the plays monday?

>>29283181
>>29283380
>>29283389
Autism.

>>29284564
>Everyone but you agrees about what a recession is and we aren't in one.
I view unemployment and anxiety about wages relative to asset prices as shitty times people would probably more likely to name a recession than whether if the Fed can print up enough money to offset the loss of money velocity.
I still want any sauce about "US markets managed to rake in record dough anyways"
Unless that just means the stock market which is part of the problem.
Corporate profits peaked in 2015. We aren't even near where we were slumped in 2019.

>>29284611
See my other post here >>29284472
I know of a few gripes with Epic and like 1 gripe with Steam but for the most part the assumed "competitors" to GME are not the weak link in the customer service chain. Everyone I know is pissed with shitty incomplete unoptimized games being sold for full price $60. This is a problem with publishers. How does GME solve this without shouldering significant liability for bad games? Maybe offer full refunds? But this means no money.

>>29284754
i'm unironically addictied to the line up down game. It's unironically the thing I think about the vast majority of the time nowadays. It's seriously hampering my college work.

>tfw 3 digit hell

How does one succeed

>>29284846
Meh. Nothing really. I'm pretty much set for now and no short plays have piqued my interest lately besides BIGC. Went super heavy Friday buying up whatever cheapies were still available.

>>29284862
>All increments of 100
Based and OCDpilled.

>>29284079
>just make another airline Norway-bros.
That is not how Scandinavia works.
>>29284121
>>29284209
It is real though. King Orange really tweeted it. Imagine being ruled by THAT guy.

>>29284265
You're alright by me anon

>>29285023
It’s best for covered calls

>>29284878

How the fuck can I have a discussion with you if you randomly decide to redefine the meaning of words?

>>29284862
gahdamn son, the ccp salutes you

>>29284878
>I still want any sauce about "US markets managed to rake in record dough anyways"
Its called a fucking graph nigger
All jokes aside just look at s&p500 companies. They, on average continued to do well quarter to quarter.
Also see how many billionaires/megacorps increased their value substantially during all this.
Did you start investing recently? I mean, i dont even know how to get sauce like that. Anyone could probably find some technical way to gotcha what i said.

>>29284358
It’s a small pull back market was rough last week, people taking profit from being in early, the trend is still going up, nothing has changed. Just hold

>>29285047

Its a good point though. Niggers killing eachother is the issue they should work on. Not the handful of niggers killed by cops while resisting arrest.
I'm glad Trump isnt afraid to tell the truth. Hopefully he will run again in 4 years. Should be an easy win without Corona to fuck things up.

>>29285059
If you need to think that "line go up" because the economy somehow isn't in the toilet then all power to you.
I am of the "line go up because money is fleeing the economy" crowd. The end result is in same I just feel its dishonest to be part of the Wall St. dipshits that think buying and selling AAPL all day is somehow productive for the economy.

>>29281233
I've been investing since about 2004. Most crypto kiddies and stock gamblers will be so BTFOd they'll end up penniless

>>29284973
hahahaha yep..poor you

>>29284918
I have no idea, I just know that Cat Food Man is an entrepreneurial genius and I trust the man with my life savings.

>>29283463
You have no idea how fucking retarded normalfags are. Even the smart ones. Like for example my dad, makes 5 figures a month in the middle management of a fortune 500 company. He lost a bunch of money with the stock for the same company he works for. His line of thinking was something like that
>Oh shit stocks are going up
>Holy shit all the media is talking about my company stock going through the roof
>buys company stock at the literal top
>stock inevitably corrects, dad loses a bunch of money
>oh shit its going down I better sell before I lose even more
>sells the bottom

Guy has a master in electrical engineering and has 90 people working below him. Yet he loses money like a moron when touching stocks. He also believes everything the mainstream media tells him without question. This is who you are competing against.

>>29283463
You only really lose if you sell at a loss fren. Bagholding comes with the territory.

>>29284953
Find a new game or hobby to focus on. Manually focus on something else and tell yourself you won't look at any of it all Sunday. You need to seperate your addiction because its also what will lead you into eventually losing money.

>>29284973
God I love whores

>>29285073
I’m hoping for a great social credit score for when I decide to move there.

>>29285187

I don't care about any of your nonsense. We are not in a recession and you don't get to redefine the meaning of the word recession. Again, how can we discuss anything if you randomly redefine words? How can I even read your post if I don't know what meaning you assign to the words you wrote?

>>29281733
you are retarded

>>29284918
>PT
I expect Cohen's meme magic to take it to $1500 by 2023 and I will sell 200% IV covered calls every week on the way up.

https://youtu.be/a2jPmB6iriU
SpaceX is so much further along than normies (and institutional investors) realize. Tank watching autism creates informational asymmetry.

>>29282245
idiot

>>29285306
>autism about words
Here it is in short form: The economy is shit. This is why JPOW feels he needs to keep expanding the balance sheet until 2023 and the government is currently on its 4th trillion dollars of "stimulus".

>>29285202
I mean I think it's a nice dream and all but I'm genuinely struggling to find a pipedream scenario for this to work out. Short of Valve being absolutely destroyed overnight or something else absurd. Plenty of companies with both bigger and better balance sheets have tried really hard to enter the market and have been absolutely BTFO'd. CDPR is probably the best example that comes to mind, and DRM free is brilliant. Look at the Epic store too it's literally a gigantic money pit.

>>29285248
T.based

>>29285481

Economy is objectively doing great

>>29285383

god I wish I could invest in SpaceX. Its absolutely mental how much they have achieved in such a short timespan. Compare it to Virgin Galactic who can't even get a person to "almost space" after 30 years. Meanwhile SpaceX is literally bringing astronauts to the ISS for NASA.

Who here ALPP/CBBT chad?

Also big middlefinger to John Cucker who doubted ALPP 2 months ago in his /smg/ weekly youtube video.

https://youtu.be/GA_jPS9Sauc?t=452

>>29285631
>Economy is objectively doing great
sauce

>>29285631
my strategy is to invest in companies that benefit from the dramatic drop in launch costs, right now KTOS/MAXR/SRAC, plus ARKX when it launches and Starlink if it ever IPOs

>>29285661
copper futures

>>29285631
>Economy is objectively doing great
Take your meds, economist

>>29285248

Is it even worth investing in Europoor stocks? My country has a pop of 3mil and we produce alot of grain as per usual of poor countries. Mister Peter Schiffie told me that commodities in other countries will boom is he right?

>>29285774
Wtf I love CNN now

>>29285118
But it wasn't the truth though. Trump fell for it like the retarded boomer he is. "Crime Statistics Bureau" even sounds fake. Sucks not to possess functional literacy.

>>29284846
Just the basic stuff.
ATSG should gain until earnings and potential partial purchase from Amazon. See it as a play that could gain 10% by March 10.
SWBI should gain unless it is a red day.
VSTO might gain 5%
Tencent have their loan of 8.6 billion secured and could take over a gaming company like Paradox or Netmarble.
Maybe hut 8 if you want to risk more and if BTC stays high

>>29285774
I would totally fuck that thing so I don't see what the problem is

Two questions for euro timeslot /smg/ before the ameritards arrive:
What caused last weeks pullback? What caused it to stop?
All I've read is "It was at an ATH, it's a just healthy red day breh", which is BS, it was at ATH for weeks, what caused it NOW?
And it wasn't treasuries either, because those continue to pump on Friday.

>>29283132
I haven't checked on the case in a few days. When did they say that? I don't want to cherry pick at all. I know this might not work out. Airline recovering from covid will always be risky as fuck.

>>29285945
The fat greasy Americans folded because the gov edited their job report to be slightly worse than previously thought.

>>29285774
kek

PSSST
CRBP lupus trial results 27/02 4 P.M GMT+1
don't ask me how I know
do whatever you wish with that information

>>29285866
depends on which europoor stocks?
Germany and Scandinavia has lots of innovative shit going on. Even Ericsson should keep on gaining from 5G but in the long tedious way. Flutter in the UK owns Fanduel and that is a way more profitable and professionally run sportsbook than DKNG. There are lots of sportsbook and casino engines run from Sweden that are innovative as hell. Highly valued but very interesting takeover targets. PROSUS in Holland is a roundabout way of owning Tencent at a discount.

>>29285945
I really dont understand what kind of answer you expect from this question. Line go up, line go down, then line go up again or maybe down. This is the broader market youre talking about. If you can be more specific that would probably get you a better answer.

Why yes I do only invest in triple leveraged funds, how could you tell?

>>29285878
>But it wasn't the truth though
Its absolutely is true that most niggers that get shot do so getting shot at by other niggers.

>>29285753
>>29285661
The old and the weak are dying. Look up what the plague did for the economy afterwards. Rising wages and employment. People are still consuming en masse, and productivity is still solid. Covid is an economic nothingburger.

>>29286171
>Why yes I’m still waiting for the existence of 20x leverage before I buy an etf, how could you tell?

>>29285866
No. America is where all the action is. We don’t have a Google or Amazon or Tesla. All our talent ends up in America. Even arm will be owned by nvidia. We have some good stable companies but if you want to make money you need to invest in American exchanges.

>>29286241
>Rising wages and employment
Sauce
>People are still consuming en masse, and productivity is still solid
Sauce

>>29283403
>That whole countries is a giant fucking Enron
I love this. "China is the Enron of countries" is so fucking true
>Books cooked to more than "Well done"
>Steadily increasing stock prices
>A culture built on scamming people

>>29285945
What do you mean? Most indicators say stocks are overvalued, the only ones that disagree are the ones pointing to low yields.
Now yields pump and you see what happens.

At least that's what we Plebians can take away from this. Who knows? Maybe SoftBank wrote 20k put options on the Nikkei which another algo thought was a hedge and the shorted and then another joined in. Who knows?

>What caused it to stop?
The bell on Friday. It didn't really stop.

>>29286336
This, being a euro is like being a canadian. We make money in the US market. TSX is good for dividends, but growth, overall market size, and available investor capital is limited.

>>29286336
I understand that and all my money is in canadian and american companies at the moment but what if the scenario happens where America and even lets say China start importing grains on a massive scale to feed their filthy uncivilized mouths? I think this is what Schiff is saying and I believe there could be some money made am I not right the highest grain producer in my country is exporting alot of it to scandinavia and germany

>>29286455
checked
i always say there's no better representation of modern china or its people than the products sold in an american city's chinatown.
somehow they make the plastic feel even more worthless, i don't know how they do it.

So I was just forwarded some AMC hopium
Anyone going to ape in on it this monday?

>>29283463
Because we are positing only about our gains, not our losses. There was a time when we also posted about our dumb decisions, but with the influx of people since January 20 I see less and less of that. If you make a mistake some 4 figure kids will just insult you.
>>29285219
Same. He just takes the money to the bank, they invest it in some "safe" fund with a 2% TER for the bank and 5% gain a year and he's happy with that.

>>29286455
zoomers and young millenials don't even know what enron was let alone the comparison to china of today.

>>29286634
all redditors MUST be gassed

>>29286522
Any country can produce grain. If demand goes up so will supply. It’s not like it will become rare and the price will rise. What country are you from?

>>29286643
>Because we are positing only about our gains, not our losses
We just had a red week, man
I lost 10% of my profits and exited most of my positions. It sucked
>>29286670
I got that from telegram

>>29285866
Europe gets optimized out in every backtest I've done. Maybe there's a point for 5-10% for diversification and vola reduction, but I don't forecast Europe somehow getting ahead over US or China anytime soon, so what's the point.

ASML is the only EU stock I have.

>>29286522
Grain will never be a great moneymaker. Like all agriculture it has a very low profit margin.

>>29286522
Dear god. Why would US ever import grains??? US doesn't need to import food, and the small amount it does largely comes from mexico, S.A(vegetables, fruits, and nuts), and canada(meat). Also, China imports basedbeans, It doesn't need grains because of its ability to double crop harvest rice. If you want a Argo bet, Nutrien in canada is world class.

>>29286643
>He just takes the money to the bank, they invest it in some "safe" fund with a 2% TER for the bank and 5% gain a year and he's happy with that.
This was me exactly a year ago. I was conditioned all my life that stocks are dangerous. Fuck everyone that told me this, god fucking damn it.
(I mean they ARE risky, but way better over long term if you don't need that money)

>>29285866
Fuck no.
>>29286336
>>29286743
This. It sounds exaggerated but Europe is just full of dying boomer companies. They have no will to innovate and will get replaced by American companies soon enough.

Few companies have a moat big enough to grow long term and survive against the adaptive Americans.
>>29286522
Any country can produce grain. Don't listen to Schiff.

>>29281313
Not me, i still hate jews and niggers

ROLLS ROYCE WILL MOON MONDAY

>>29286743
>>29286927

When adjusted for the USD/EUR exchange rate the Dutch AEX outperformed the SP500 over the last year. The US has all the shiny outperformers but on the whole they're doing very similarly. Only if you actually pick out the good ones will you be much better off investing in the US over Europe. If you just want to hold the index there is no reason to go all in on the US.

>>29286049
So I guess it was one time and we go back to printing money next week?

>>29286128
What caused line to go down? How fucking hard this is to understand? All worthwhile indices dropped. Why?
And way more importantly: why did it stop dropping on Friday?

>>29286473
They were exactly this overvalued in January too.
>Who knows?
Maybe someone here noticed something and he could share. It seems that someone isn't you.

>>29287083
I’m anticipating a crab market until the next stimulus actually gets passed by Congress.

What's an absolute shit stock to buy puts on?

>>29287083
Line go down

>>29287020
kys retard

>>29287058
Last year isn't that representative of the overall market history though. As I said Europe gets optimized to single digits in my ETF backtests over 40 years, not the 20ish% it has in a developed World Index. Plus the political outlook in EU is pretty bad imo. Therefore I undervalue EU and overvalue China in boomer ETF portfolio. It's a tilt I'm willing to take.

>>29286659
Fucking zoomies, man.
They don't have an idea what Enron was and how they got away with it for so long.
They don' have an idea what Theranos was and how that imploded.
They weren't there in a dotcom boom, or 2008, and have no idea how crashes work
They read the VW short squeeze and Piggly Wiggly articles, but only half way through and don't realize both companies went bankrupt beacause of it.

Doomed to repeat history. How do we profit form this? Aside from letting them baghold.

>>29286716
>I lost 10% of my profits and exited most of my positions. It sucked
And that's nothing bad. We win some we lose some. If a day trader wins 60% of his trades and avoids catastrophic losses on 40% he will make a ton of money.

>>29286896
At least we're young. Imagine finding this out when you're 50.
>>29287058
And the TecDax outperformed SPY probably.

Sure, some index max outperform SPY in one year or the other and past performance is by itself no indication of future growth, but the US not only pumps out company one after another. They also have the dollar as the world currency, do not have Euro/EU problems every two years and have lower taxes, a younger population and a bigger pull on foreign talent. While the rocket scientists of Gambia land on the beaches of Italy, the rocket scientists of Italy land at NY La Guardia. And the pension systems of Europe are essentially a big MLM as they refuse to sensibly invest in the market, while Americans invest a lot more and the nation has a much higher drive to protect these markets.

The US is just a much safer long term bet. Nothing bad about putting a few dollars into Europe, but I would not make it a big part of my strategy when I have a better alternative.

>>29287058
You're bringing facts to a playground setting. That is not acceptable. FYI, it has outperformed for longer than a year.

>>29286634
I'll never forgive redditors for what they did to NOK.

>>29287262
I don't think optimizing for 40 years makes much sense tho. So many things have changed in market dynamics that it will basically not hold.
You should optimize for something like 15 instead so that you have both a proper crash and the effects of infinite QE and the fuckton of algo trading.

Tell me right now why you aren't at least 2% in silver?

>>29287579
Because I care about your boomer rocks.

>>29287358
Testing EWN against SPY
SPY wins

Europe just isn't on one level with the US here.

>>29287190
The last correction wiped all shit stocks (BB, PLTR, GEVO, PLUG and friends), so you should wait for them to grow back up. I got a shitton of money from BB and PLTR puts.

Then again, you should never buy puts in a bull market. If you are bearish, sell ITM covered calls on high IV shit instead.

>>29287618
Don’t care*

>>29287579
I'm 15% in PHAG, because it sounds funny.
Those march silver futures are a breqing catasrophe if JPM doesn't do something about it soon. The meme silver bankrun is real and continous. Fucking silver boomers and GenX are not as ADHD as ledditors and slowly burn silver up.

>>29287658
>Then again, you should never buy puts in a bull market. If you are bearish, sell ITM covered calls on high IV shit instead.
Based.

>>29287447
Good point, but I think it will look even less in EUs favor as EM growth is concentrated a lot more in recent decades.

>>29287319
I'm starting to harvest profits. There's far too much insanity at this point and it's starting to freak me out. I think the big ones would be the ARK and TSLA bubbles. And consider that TSLA's now in SPX it's a bad recipe. I'm gonna start by cutting the things with lower upside first. And this is on top of being more cash than I ever have been in years.

>>29285228
The circled part was Thursday. I think big money manipulation is consciously trying to shake out retail right now, not that that is anything new. I just look at that dip and consider how fucking unreal it is. It literally dipped right at open then around noon it slowly went back up to it's original value. that's also showing the progress of my entire portfolio for the week.

>>29287648
>Let's try this with my selection bias
Why? This conversation was about indexes

>>29287852
I've hedged my QQQ-correlated positions with an $500 TSLA put. It's fucking cheap, and if a proper crash comes, TSLA will crash down hard for two reasons:
speculators will cash out once it starts to underperform (and it started underperforming recently), and the SPY rebalance is in March, where if they don't have enough capitalization, they will lose weight, and all the boomerfolios will cause a massive selloff, further lowwering the price.

If there is no crash, well, I just bought some cheap insurance, and I gladly lose that money.

>>29287648
Starting from 2011 is not really representative. You want to model in a proper crash with the crabbing period after it.
Then again, EU stocks are very stable (a.k.a. eternal crab), but if they have a better Sharpe ration and smaller max downside, you can just leverage them more and get the same or better returns.

>>29287854
Something I read that stuck with me is that institutional investors never, ever sell like that. They gradually trim to keep the price high and maximize profit. If the graph shape looks like that, someone's trying to raid stops and shake you out.

>>29287978
Yeah hedging with puts might be the way to go forward I haven't really entered options that much. (I have a decent understanding just not sure exactly where to start.) But I expect whatever downtrend to smash speculation the hardest. I'm less confident the rest of the markets will take well to it though.

>>29287854
>big money manipulation is consciously trying to shake out retail right now
This is not crypto my dude. Don't think retail is a big enough part of the market that it's worth "shaking out". You are not the center of the world. The jews are not coming for you.

I love you Shion

>>29282505
>China collapses

>>29288085
leveraged EU min vola ETF
hmmmm

>>29288244
Never happening

>>29288312
>>29288312
>>29288312

NEW
NEW
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>>29288312
>>29288312
>>29288312

>>29288322
Fuck you, it's way too early. Just to nab the OP. Shame on you.

>>29288132
You are right about everything except me not being the center of the world.

Retail plays a part but it's not all of it. You are delusional if you think someone isn't keeping tabs on retail. That was the day of the RH bullshit with congress, and no I'm not a GME buyer. It probably has to do with the flow of information and the way retail is shaping the narrative on discussion forums, and the way rival hedge funds are in turn trying to figure out how to shape the narrative of retail investors . Retail at this point is similar to antifa in that we are given a false sense of power and rebellion when we are really just errand boys for the rival hedge funds.

>>29288357
anytime after 300 is fine retard

>>29288357
>caring

>>29288384
They are keeping tabs on for sure. Maybe even manipulating sentiment by astroturfing. But hedgies cannot really affect the price by buying or selling, really, because it would have to be concerted, and I'm pretty sure they don't collude.
And if there's only one hedgefund that tries to pull this shit off by e.g. selling abunch of shares, all that will happen is that they sell a bunch of shares below price, other hedgefunds buy the cheapies, and the price springs back up.

Any time your scheme requires collusion, there's a 90% chance you are wrong.

>Bought GME
Damn it feels good. Ww@ GME bros? Whens the squeeze?
Went all in. 10 shares @ 40 dollarss

>>29286634
Isn’t AMC a 30% short float? Why are they trying to make it into another GME wtf

>>29288859
supposedly its higher than that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DZRhru2gZo&ab_channel=Trey%27sTrades

Any CD chads in here?