/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>29244715
What kind of art?
Post some examples.

Make an Instagram account for your art.

>>29244760
Example 1

>>29244715
If it's anime coom art, post daily on Twitter, gain a following and get commission bux. Make sure to not write any text at all or just one emoji representing something in the image you post. If it's furry coomer art, you've struck gold my friend.
I can't draw but I like hanging out with the boys at /ic/. Nobody wants to buy your drawings of bowls and apples.

>>29244928
>>29244715
>>>/ic/
they'll tear you a new asshole

>>29244760
>>29244928
Example 2. Do not steal

>>29244928
>>29245002
Where’s the talent?

Thats not art you faggot

You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

>>29245061
>>29245087
I didn't ask if it was good, I asked how to make profit off of it. There's shittier art that sells for millions, faggot.

>>29244928
>>29245002
>I actually have talent
>posts MS paint tier doodles

>>29245168
Based grifter
Have you considered gluing a condom to a Bible and selling it?

if you are able to handle crypto, create NFTs and sell on rarible.com. NFTs are white hot right now and people buy the biggest shit.

>>29245309
>this is (not) bait

>>29245002
MS PAINT KEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>29244715

You call THAT art?

>art
If that's what you people are calling it... Try onlyfans.com

>>29245516
What's NFT?

>>29245002

Go back to /gd

>>29244715
Etsy.com

>>29246245
Lmao

>>29244928
>>29245002
Keep practicing, anon. You'll get there someday.

i like it

>>29245002
>Do not steal
You got it

>>29246245
I actually like this one. Dimensions?

>>29244715
You draw like shit. Give up.

I can draw 2d and digitally. Rn I'm learning how to animate on 3DS Max and see how to go from there, its actually easier than I thought it would be.

>>29244928
>>29245002
What the hell is this? Help me niggerman, I'm seeing red candles here

This is how you make money being an artist

Damn, I wish I was this good

>>29246245
>>29246386
>>29246855
Thanks everyone. Unlike OP I clearly have talent. This is not a bait thread.

Start posting good art please. I need references

>>29244715
Do you have hundreds and hundreds of dollars to spend on gas fees to mint your art only for it to stay unsold? If not then forget about it.

>>29244715
>Where can I sell my art?
>I actually have talent. This is not a bait thread.

>>29245002
This one isn’t that bad honestly

On Rarible

>>29245516
>>29245848

go to r/NFT they have stickies and shit its too hard to explain, especially if you don't know about crypto.

there's a korean guy who sells his art in a custom lobby in starcraft 1 west na server
maybe you could try that

>>29244715
High art is a money laundering scheme. Your best bet is to do what others have suggested already, make corny normie friendly stuff and slowly get a following on social media until you can get commissions. Only real way to make money in art.
t. No longer a professional illustrator cause it’s so hard to make a living

I call this level the roadblock hell.

No matter how much I improve I don't know what to do to earn money from this skill. So I'm basically just drawing for my own amusement like a retard

>>29249021
Yes

I wonder if rarible allows NSFW content

>>29245002
>Do not steal
don't worry anon, nobody will

>>29249088
Cool Frieza.

I can do line art too but if there's nothing in it for me it's really hard to find motivation to open my photoshop. Though, digital is the area I've been improving the most because you can cheat a lot more there.

Though I can say I've improved a lot over the years just by going against the grain.

>>29249760
Thanks. I was commissioned to do this, took about ten hours or so. Then they decided they didn’t want it. Seriously, trying to make a living as an artist is hard. I’m completely self taught, I moved onto other types of work but in my spare time I still love to draw, helps clear my mind. Keep practicing, odds are you won’t make any money, but some do. I made more in my first few weeks of crypto than I ever did doing illustrations

>open photoshop
>new file
>spend the entire day looking at the same canvas
>turn off PS
HOW DO I MAKE MONEY FROM THIS

>>29250260
Ever tried to do coom art? It seems to be the only thing worth doing anymore.

>>29250260
Also post more of your works please. If it's not much to ask ofc.

>>29249021
I like your drawings way more than OP and I think you deserve money

>>29244928
>>29245002
wow this shit sucks, you could probably sell it for 10 million dollars as an NFT

>>29246245
Hahaha you took OP's style and made something funny with it

>>29250542
Yeah but it’s just not my thing. Plus I don’t use social media anymore so I have zero ways of promoting myself. Maybe if whatever city you live in has a local market or something you can set up a stand and sell. I had mild success doing that but there’s only a small percentage of people that will actually shell out enough money to make it worth the time. For reference, I charge $10 usd an hour for my illustrative work. So I charged around $120 I think for that Frieza. Since they backed out after I finished the only way to make money would be to sell it to someone else who really wants it. Most people don’t want to buy an 11x17 Frieza for that much money, but charging any less than that and I might as well be working minimum wage.

>>29250642
Sorry I’m phonefagging at work and don’t have any other pan and ink illustrations but here’s a vector image I did a while back. Also didn’t get paid for it lol. No wonder I switched professions

>>29245002
>>29244928
I was actually about to help you and spoonfeed actual advices (i live off digital art) but this is absolutely ugly as shit and you don't deserve any help

>>29251358
Oh man, sorry to hear about that. It's really demoralizing. But since you don't want to do coom art and have different sources of income it's fair.

What program were you using for your art? Illustrator? I haven't done anything in that program in ages but I used to make sick logos in it, it's really the best for that kind of stuff.

>>29251455
K help me please.

How to money

Show me your work station and samples of your work. Where do you commission stuff? How much do you charge for it? Please

>>29251455
Maybe help me? Got a stack of paintings that look like this

>>29251819
That image was created in illustrator. Vector art is amazingly versatile when you learn the ins and outs. This was a skateboard graphic I created in illustrator

>>29252126
sell to hippie boomers at flea markets

>>29252126
This seems like the kind of stuff you could easily sell on the street. Go for it man, so many people do it.

Fuck, I would give it a try. Would get a permit first and off to the streets I go.

>>29252036
i'm on phone but i use a cintiq pro 24 and clip studio paint
the normie way is to grind rep on social medias, pixiv, twitter etc. and honestly every artist should do that
if u need quick cash there's joboards for small jobs like company logo, designing a tshirt and shit
It sucks but it was some cash when i started out
build up a portfolio make a website, theres plenty of infos on how to make a simple one to show it
u can do stuff like timelapses its also good to advertise
most of my money by now personally comes from working with mobile games by drawing illustrations for them in micro contracts
although in my case i got there by advertising a lot in a gacha community where i got sort of known enough for a pr guy to contact me

>>29252228
this

>>29252269
I live in bumfuck upstate NY. Street vendors are non-existent even when it's not the dead of winter. If I can move to a tourist trap town, I could probably make a lot that way.

>>29244715
>>29244928
>>29245002
>>29245168
NORF F.C. memes unironically have more artistic value than your shit will ever have and the people who create it dont even get credit for them.

>>29252215
It's really good. It's the kind of art that comes in handy if you're good at designing websites.

>>29248026
Yes it is.

>>29252126
honestly for paintings i'm not that knowledgeable but it should work similarly, art is mostly rep based unless you can actually put your art somewhere, like a small expo
you should always do everything you can to build rep
altho personally i believe there's more money to make to work for companies than sell off personal art but thats not the main opinion desu

>>29252228
great idea, hippie boomers have a ton of money
t. live in Santa Cruz

>>29244715
your shit sucks op

study the greats and stop your delusions of grandeur in their tracks now if you can
youre def like 15 years old anyway

>>29252615
That sucks mate. I live in Porto, Portugal. You would make a bank selling art like that on the streets. Well, not right now because of Covid but once it clears out you could do it. You probably need a permit to do it though, I'm not sure about that.

How many does it take to finish a painting like that? Can you post more?

>>29252679
I appreciate it, but I’ve moved on. I’ll still do an illustration for someone on occasion, but only if they’re willing to pay upfront. Which no one is. But don’t be discouraged man just keep working at it. The inability to draw is the inability to see

>>29253265
A few hours a day for a month or two. I try not to get burnt out

>>29244715
Are you a member of the Tribe?

>>29252408
You basically made it. Man, I wish I had what it takes to get out there and make my work be seen by gacha developers.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'm also on my phone right now but will check that site tomorrow.

>>29252920
Where do you go to build rep? Instagram, twitter, pinterest? I've had people suggest deviantart but I haven't used it in over a decade, is it still alive? Is getting your own website better than posting your portfolio on social media websites?

>>29245168
You’re just a faggot who can’t see the perceived value in “shitty art”. it’s either usually well composed, subversive or at least appeals to people culturally in someway. Your art just looks amateur and uninspired. but keep trying, homo

>>29253969
It's criminal that you just keep these at home. You're HODLing your own art.

Try to sell them here on /biz/ like that other anon did with his bead lizards

>>29253969
Doesn't take much thought to make these, just patience

>>29244715
phantasma

>>29252126
This is actually decent

Do time lapse of you painting on TikTok, just scroll through your feed and any song you hear a few time is probably trending, use it
Make Etsy with good SEO
Try to find local business that sell art and see if they will do consignment - around here lots of the trendy shops will get free display art by listing the price on it

>>29254239
everywhere you can, r*ddit, pixiv, deviantart, instagram, twitter, youtube, honestly anywhere you can post art that has a wide audience
personally i used pixiv a lot but thats cause its "anime" art

>>29254410
Thanks anon, I appreciate you

>>29254588
>>29252615
Yeah, in addition to the other stuff just drive to tourist trap towns and set up displays during the summer (and see if shops there will do consignment/display obviously), could probably make up a decent % of your yearly sales

>>29244928
>>29245002

>>29253666
Thanks for the encouragement dude. It really matters a lot.

I'm glad we could get an art thread going here on /biz/

>>29244928
>>29245002
Anon please, that's cringe

>>29249021
Just start doing commission porn art, the really kinky niche stuff, you'll do fine in that

>>29253969
>>29254746
I like these, do you have a art account somewhere?

Never even thought about trying to make money out of this.
I draw when I'm bored, or can't sleep, or just feeling lazy.

>>29246245
I will pay 20 bitcoins for this piece.

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>>29245002
This is 100% larp. No one in their right mind would think any of this is anything but actual fucking garbage.

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>>29256533

>>29256611

>>29244928
>>29245002
>>29246245

https://voca.ro/12u1BfaICDlR

>>29256238
Just an instagram that has my real name associated with it. Would post it but not looking to get doxxed. Times like this it'd be nice to have a DM system on 4chan

>>29256387
>>29256462
>>29256686
hello julia

>>29256387
>>29256462
>>29256533
>>29256611
>>29256686
Scale up dude, doodles are great but all that intricate ink detail gets muddy when you're making such small drawings

>>29256909
Who the fuck is Julia?
Dis bitch been stealing my shit?

>>29253969
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>>29254746
>>29253969
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>>29254746
Gallery artist who has dumped all their money into crypto to cure depression here.

These are not good in their current state.
Ditch the Acrylic or make it flatter, I do not like to see your brushstrokes for work like this. Consider watercolour, gouache or encaustic wax like Jasper Johns.
Use transparency, your pigments look cheap and bulked with chalk, I assume your using student grade paints. Invest in some single pigment artist grade paints. Your colours will look better. Also avoid those blacks. Use chromatic blacks or panes grey instead. Tint these towards your colours to make vibrancy.
Your canvas and ground also looks cheap. It has a gross texture that makes your paint look equally gross. If you must use shop bought stretchers prime them with 3 more layers of gesso and sand in-between. Maybe lay down an area of half tone on the last layer so you don't have to build your paint up so much and make ugly marks.
Also, masking is your friend, these could be so much more crisp if you used tape, stencils or liquid latex to mask the edges.
You also loose all sense of the fractal nature of your work due to the centre. Fix that. Use both hard and soft edges to show depth. You can also use glazes to this effect.
Your portrait format examples are better then square format.
Also invest In new brushes. I can see you have three brushes? One for the central details, one for the lines surrounding, then a larger one for fill and outer lines. This makes them look un-dynamic. Get a sign painters brush with a slanted tip. These are useful for the work you do.

Your digital work cannot be saved.

How do I short artfags?

>>29257535
Gotta buy some puts on coffee companies. Or corner the coffee on the commodities market

>>29245002
OK obviously you should be on /ic/

Replecate this in a software that is not MS paint
(corel painter, photoshop, gimp, paint tool sai)
Read literally every book by loomis
smoke more dank weed
and for the love of god please employ some artistic characteristics other than contrast.

>>29252126
>>29257437
In terms of sales drop them on an online sales platform for £600-£800. Any will take you at 40% commission. Tell them to list a few works that you recently sold because you want to show 'the full collection'. Then the market will see your work selling, and that your prices at £600 and you have a chance of selling a few.
Pick a gallery that has connections with hotels and designers. If you haven't sold any work just give one to a friend and mark it sold.
If sales show down offer private discounts and mark paintings as sold at the full price. The real money is in large work. A gallery will take you if you have work over 1m as they will get more money from one sale then if you have lots of small work like this. Also feel free to offer sale to the gallery. They often buy because they don't pay their commission so get a 40% discount. There is no real money in IG. Get a couple of works sold at public auction for a good price then your set for life.

This is how galleries operate.

Call that talent nigger

get on my shoop level

>>29257437
I really appreciate the critique here, this is the kind of advice I literally never hear because I don't know a single gallery artist in real life. You got me, all my shit is cheap. The paints, the canvas, the brushes. Got it all from Michael's lol. I'm kind of shocked you were able to tell I only use 3 brushes. I never posted any digital art so not sure if that statement applied to me. Either way thanks

R8 my art bizlets

>>29252228
this and $6 a cup coffee shops.

>>29258723
My derp marine approves of this

>>29257535
Nigger we’re all already at bottom

>>29258772
this one is my masterpiece

>>29244928
>>29245002
>I actually have talent.
>This is not a bait thread.

>>29258878
computer generated art is the new wave, imagine manually drawing LMAO.

>>29247042
I had an autistic friend that would sperg out about his shitty fucking 3D drawings of a blue blob superimposed onto a red blob that was supposed to represent the hormonal cycle of the universe or some cucky shit. We called him "craque de fesse" or "asscrack" for you non-French fags, because he had a huge ass-crack shaped chin. It was hairy too, so it was a hairy ass crack chin on an autistic manlet, just a complete freakshow.

>>29258878
I'll take this one for 600,000 LINK

>>29256458
pls do
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will this be in an art gallery one day?

Spawn is watching you

>i have lost my mask series I did of masks on black minimal style, sad times.....

>>29258707
I though you where same same poster as the digital art.
Once you understand paint its obvious even from a photo. You can usually count the brushes in most paintings. Its also a sign that your filling in colour and not using brushes or medium correctly. Spreading rather then applying paint. I can even tell you haven't put the pegs in to tighten the canvas as your paintings 'dip' slightly. naughty.
I suggest buying "The Painter's Handbook: Revised and Expanded" If you go to a real art store the staff are overly knowledgeable as most are painting students or part time artists.
Good luck.

>>29259194
nice lowball, try 1 million

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>>29259337
how about we meet at 777,777?

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>>29259366
you're a high-iq genius or someshit?? how can a toddler know how to post on 4chan

>>29259783
i see you like them :) I will give you a discount

>>29259459
truly deep. you can really see inside the retarded mind of the artist. powerful stuff anon.

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>>29259307
How did you get started anon? Did you go to art school?

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>>29252408
gacha... I've seen some of that stuff online. I'll have to look into it maybe. Gacha users do, like, fan videos for obscure fandoms and it's usually pretty cringey but the meme compilation gacha vids are alright based on the pure merit of having good memes to be based off of.

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>>29260298
I was depressed and drinking myself into a ditch so I built a good portfolio and got into highest rated art school. I posted quite a bit on /ic/ back in the day. Now I have learnt no one on /ic/ knows what there talking about. Read books and follow high quality art awards/ publications. Most people in art are rich and lazy, if you have any concept of hard work and self awareness you'll do okay. You'll not make money for a few years after graduation so keep spending low and save to fund that. Learn to work 5 hours a day every day. Make lots, then cull the bad work. They call it 'curation'.

>>29260845
Honestly I'm not a student, so I really missed all the things you'd learn at a school. This has just been a hobby of mine the last few years. I've had so many people tell me to start painting full time and they don't seem to understand that I'm an amateur. I can see it my own paintings, they're barely above arts and crafts. But I don't know how to improve because I don't even know what I don't know and I've gotten no real feedback from artists. So thanks for your posts anon. Maybe /ic/ failed you back in the day, but I'm glad I asked for advice on /biz/ today.

>>29261877
Don't worry you learn nothing about practical painting at art school. Your not missing much. The main thing you learn, and what I'd suggest, is build a network of artists you can openly talk you about your work and about theirs. This is the only way to improve. Find a small group of painters locally you can talk with, and show with. Life drawing classes work well for this reason. You'll get an art education from that and save a lot of money. It's also fun. Good luck Anon.

thanks for the laughs OP this brightened my day