/biz/ - Business & Finance

Could you elaborate on the incident so we could also laugh at you?

>>29140042
Not really, I’m just a stuttering low IQ fucking loser

>>29140435
I also have a stutter issue, especially in meetings, one on one interviews etc.
Used to be a lot worse though

>>29140435
Greentext your speech pls fren

>>29139832
Just buy a house and make a son with your wife. Made me as confident as a boomer

>>29140435
could be public speaking anxiety bro

look into propranolol, more importantly practice the fuck out of presentations etc

im also a stuttering retard when under any sort of pressure

>>29139832
its alright fren keep fighting

>>29140435
I want to hear what you're working on and what you said, I'm sure you'll do better next time anon.

>>29139832
Bro i work as psw and all the people i work with are women who are entitled. They get the most amount anyone is paid in our feild and in provably the easiest lart of said feild. Anytime i try to deviate from the norm they bitch and try to get you in trouble.
They don't even care about the residents, and thats what pisses me off the most. Can't wait to finally make it in 6 months and take one of the lads on a cruise if this shit ever lifts. Finally tell them to eat dirt and stay poor.

>>29139832
It doesn't matter if you are slow. There's plenty of geniuses who spent their lives working on small things.
Also you are probably underestimating your intelligence and you are just used to putting yourself down.
Have hope and don't settle for small shit. Come up with a business you can scale.

>>29141829
What is psw?

I used to be autistic when it came to public speaking but i eventually grew to not give a fuck. You have to enter your wolf mode. Realize that you are the alpha when youre up there. You must realize that everyone else is generally retarded and you are a chad wolf lord explaining whatever it is to children.

>releasing my inner wolf made me a chad

>>29139832
get a trade job where your labor does the talking for you. nothing is worse than working under young professional tech/ creative types.

>>29139832
Kek I actually started dying when I read this. Sorry I was that immature asshole who had to try really hard not to laugh at peoples presentations in high school

Sounds to me like you need to ask more questions of your peers outside of meetings. You don't have the time to be awkward, you have to learn and get shit done man. It's not about IQ, it's about learning from your mistakes and asking enough questions to avoid further mistakes. You won't get in trouble for asking stupid questions, you'll get in trouble for fucking something up.

>>29139832
Get back in there. Don't let your insecurities show. Keep quiet and take it all in and soon you will be the master.

>>29141932
Pw
Ersonal support worker.
I work overnight in a grouphome for individuals with disabilities.
REALLY comfy job, easy work if your alright with gross shit, and can be really rewarding helping people become independent.

>>29142923
I thought you were going to say something else disgruntled employees do

>>29143644
That's always an option, but in many places it is considered a "career limiting move"

>>29139832
i know its hard fren, but you just have to force yourself to not care what they think. once you have that mindset, youre whole demeanor will naturally change and they will most likely pick up on it and begin respecting you.

>>29142923
I'll add this advice I got from my mentor: Always answer the question that was asked (and not the question you THINK they asked or you think they SHOULD have asked). Answer the question directly, and if you feel they should be asking a different question, suggest it after your answer and briefly explain your reasoning. Don't go too much into detail unless you are asked.

>>29139832
What kinda projects?

>>29143850
and never forget, they are just fuckin normies. literal slaves to the establishment without even realizing it

>>29141266
>just get a wife, house and a child bro!

>>29142923
Honestly i tried doing this at every job i had when i had to work with people.
Who i am when im comfy is vulgar and offensive so i usually have to put on a face.
Shit blows man, you get so anxious your constantly worried about fucking up.

>>29139832
i know this feel, plus i have extreme anxiety/autism, i work in quality and sometimes am behind in engineering lingo

>working at a job

>>29143986
i almost said nigger in front of a group of my normie friends the other day. duck you guys for what you have done to me

>>29139832
Anon elaborate on your speech and can figure out how to help you. Also what kind of job?

>>29143986
>Who i am when im comfy is vulgar and offensive so i usually have to put on a face.
so?
maybe just dont work with oversensitive pussies then

>>29139832
They're the ones who hired you so who's the real idiot

>>29139832
>>29142070
Do this OP. You'll find what you're good at.

>>29140435
Wait so are you actually retarded or is it just a stutter issue? Feel bad for ya if it's just a speech thing

I don't know if this will make you feel better, but I felt extremely awkward during a visit to my local bank branch while being poor neet most of my life. Extremely well and sharp dressed men and women treat me like a premium customer despite wearing baggy, hobo-like clothes from last decade. I have to visit bank in person because I move extremely large sums of money through crypto and provide them documents in person here in my country. Every visit is fucking awkward because I've mostly been NEET for the last 12 years, but move ertxemely large sums of money. Some younger bank clerks seem to be in disbelief of my balance connected to my second class citizen appearance.

lol imagine caring what normie NPC worker drone slaves think

>>29143986
>>29144154
Yeah it’s really stressful wearing the mask. I got scolded for using the word retard in a group chat with old college friends. By a guy who used to tag team sluts back in the day. Everyone is such a cunt now.

>>29144205
Yes i do.
I live in the most neo-liberal city in ontario.
I got berated for saying "free at last, free at last" when i clocked out. I seriously hate every brainlet commie here

>>29144154
I would laugh anon. I understand.

>>29142070
This but everyone here should read Shopclass as Soulcraft. The problem with trades is you are at the mercy of kinetic factors (shit breaks) and you are only as good as your last shift. Whereas office workers can underperform for years and make excuses you can’t do that as a tradie.

>>29144205
Yeah bro, just start redpilling your boss about the kikes' plan to flood white countries with filthy subhumans shitskin niggers, that will go swimmingly.

>>29139832
think about how many ppl can relate in someway or another.

you're one of us.. you're our fren..

>>29144654
Kek.
At my last job I would go around singing at full-blast:

>AaaAaaAaHmazing GraAaaAace

And substitute the owner’s name for God.
The whites found it hilarious but the blacks were freaking out.

>>29144781
kek. I’ll pay you 400 usd in any crypto you want if you film this.

>>29144501
I hear ya brother. I drive a sports car of the type which you rarely see in the UK. Everyone looks at it and wants to see who is getting in / out. I'm a semi-pro horse rider so I always get out in scruffy clothes for the stables, horse poop on my jodhpurs etc. Pretty funny.

>>29144979
I live near a big football teams training camp too so people always hopeful it will be a divegrass star. Nope sorry, just some autistic faggot covered in horse hair and shit, kek

>>29144501
why don't you buy new clothes if you're rich?

>>29144532
You have to care about what they think because they’re all waiting for you to slip up so they can sic a mob on you and take whatever you have that they don’t away from you. Normies do shit like read their pharmacists Instagram posts to get you fired because you didn’t say good morning to them with a sincere enough smile.

>>29144979
>rarely see in the uk
some jdm missile or muscle car?

>>29140435
Been there man, I guarantee it's not as bad as you think it is.
Most of anxiety isn't based in reality, its just paranoia about what others are thinking.
I got so confused before I realised this and couldn't grasp why others didn't notice when I was being retarded

>>29141312
Seriously, look into propranolol. It's a beta blocker that basically keeps you from getting that nervous, agitated feeling in high pressure situations. It works extremely well.

next time your are work, whip your dick out. At least you'll get fired for whipping your dick out instead of getting fired for being a retard.

>>29145167
I don't know how to dress well, I've been mostly NEET for the last 12 years I only buy clothes that are comfortable . My style is similar to Big Lebowski -type of clothing, even though I do not try to look like some hobo, I just aim for extreme bagginess and extreme comfiness. I'm already retired from crypto I just stay in loose, baggy clothing all day I hate all strain

>>29140435
Whatever, its just a job anon.
You cant control your speech and you're probably not a retard but even if you are, you've got frens here and dont need to think about work for a whole 2 days.

What do you say I rustle up some tendies?

>>29145371
>our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks, especially since they're such a good size and all

The thing to realise OP is that most people are self-absorbed and don't actually give a fuck about you.

It's easy to get wrapped up in this stuff and think people are hyperanalyzing everything you do, but in reality you are an extremely minor detail of their lives. You will think on this for months and I guarantee they'll have forgotten in a week no matter how bad it was.

>>29139832
they all sound like utter assholes. move jobs and make better use of your time and have some self respect and not be a punching bag

>>29144654
>>29144718

What's going on here?

>>29145312
also stop jerking off to porn all the time

>>29145193
muscle

>>29139832
>one guy started laughing.
Based

>>29145167
If I tried to dress well I'd end up looking like Willy Wonka

>>29145507
ya I wanted to add to this. im sure many of you are like me where you do tend to hyper analyze everything, but remember, we are not normal. most people are completely ok with going through their day to day like in an ignorant bliss. they have already forgotten about it, I suggest you do as well op.

you have to cut out the dopamine addictions goddamnit
THATS the only way you can free yourself and regain your energy and capacity forl ife

>>29145585
?? Wdym??

>>29139832
leave that place and live somewhere else as a monk, hodl your crypto meanwhile, return in 5-10 years.

>>29143973
Kek

>>29139832
You're getting paid right? Why complain

work is for making money. if u get payed why even care about anything else. get your pay and go home nigga

>>29139832
did you buy crypto? if so, you are probably smarter than all these faggots that sound illiterate and smart in thier little circle jerk conversation to make you feel lower about yourself.

>>29145371
actually a great idea, in fact If I make it in crypto, which is looking to be the case, I will likely quit my job by whipping my dick out and telling everyone to suck my dick because Im rich and the rest of you faggots are stuck at this fucking peice of shit company. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FAGGOTS!

>>29145447
>My style is similar to Big Lebowski
based

>>29142061
>>wolf mode
>>alpha
>>chad wolf
>>releasing my inner wolf made me a chad
You might still be an autist mate

>>29142061

>>29140435
you need some goggins in your life bruh

>>29139832
Drill tiny holes in all the pipes so when they turn the heating system on the whole place floods, put out of date milk in the coffee machine, take a massive shit on the bathroom floor and spread it around everywhere then never go into that workplace again

I am a Chad normie who makes my living in front of cameras. You’d think I have it all together to look at me. (At least I’m good at larping like one) Trust me I know the exact feeling.
I agree with
>>29141312

Propanolol helped me for sure.

Just know that if you are on this board, there is a high chance you’re smrter and more interesting than any of those people.

>>29146311
It’s hard for me to get into this mindset, I realize I am the same low IQ weirdo stuttering loser outside of work as well as inside of work.

I don’t know how some people do it, they are smart, creative, extroverted, attractive, nice, rich, and have a family. Meanwhile I have none of the above and likely never will. Some of you guys are so smart and you don’t realize people like me just can’t do what you guys can, stuff just comes to you in ways it would never come to me even with all the time in the world. No matter how much effort I put it my mind just can’t come up with the right answers or solutions, meanwhile when I ask my coworkers they know the answer instantly and on the spot. It hurts so bad being a low IQ, low status, worthless fucking loser, I just can’t forget about that outside of work.

>>29139832
you didn't tell us why they're more capable than you and that's going to make a big difference here. are you just "new" or are you actually not a capable person? this is normal if you're new

>>29147827
Being smart is more of an attitude than inherent. Yes it comes easier to some people but there is no reason you can't be in the same position.

From your posts it seems to me the issue is one of confidence rather than ability. Or your job may just be a poor match for your skillset. Devote your time to identifying where you failed or where you are weak and try to improve at it. Something my dad used to say to me when I was down for similar reasons to you is that people's skills are more often molded by what they're bad at than they're good at. People who are exceptional at something usually develop that skill to cover other weaknesses they have or it may even be a converted weakness. People like you describe who are just naturally able usually just coast along as slightly above average without anything that remarkable to them.

Take this as an opportunity to evaluate what you are good and bad at but the most important thing is to have a positive outlook and understand that if you work hard and improve yourself there is no way it can not get better.

>>29147827
Reading your posts, you don't seem stupid at all. Just sounds like you have severe self esteem issues (can't blame you in this shit world) and it is sabotaging you. Just know there's something out there that you're really good at, you just need to find it. I'm sorry the NPCs hurt you, anon.

>>29145616
Unless you're talking about old classics the only muscle car I rarely see in the Uk is a charger

>>29140435
anybody who laughs at a stutter is a bully, someone insecure enough to mock somebody who shows up in spite of what holds them back and powers through it. you’re the chad here for showing up, anon, fuck what they think.

>>29147827
i really doubt you're actually "low IQ" because actual low IQ people are not that self aware. they coast through life like wishful idiots and are usually happier than smart people because of that.

you definitely have some self esteem issues and you need to STOP comparing yourself to others with more experience than you. that will come with time, people you work with have to be polite and help you out too or else you can go to HR for hostile work environment and get them canned.

>>29139832
dude, go on an LSD trip, seriously
your life will never be the same again, and only for the better

>>29147827
> they are smart, creative, extroverted, attractive, nice, rich, and have a family

anon most people are retarded. I work in a physics research lab an academia, everyone here has retarded problems.

>>29148580
>stutter
>chad
kek, show us your fedora please poor nigger

>>29142282
Exactly. You need to learn how to do your job better OP. Start immediately. Your 'iq' is just a self perception (an illusion) about being dumb. Other people (me) believe they are smart with almost zero evidence. People believe you are smart if you believe it yourself. Just learn what you need to learn and believe in yourself more. Thats the only secret

>>29144910
>tradwife cell

>>29147827
listen man, work does not matter at all. neither does your IQ. you could have Newton's IQ and still die a miserable virgin. smart or dumb, we're all gonna get old and die. you're wasting mental energy just thinking about your coworkers ability or bigger dick/height/networth. you need to get past this teenage angst phase of your life and focus on living your best life and doing good things for others.

>>29142061
Sounds to me like you went off the deep end bro

>>29144640
Tell them they are fucking retarded.
They are doing this to virtue-signal, they think it gives them moral superiority and thus society points. The more people call them out on it and laugh at them, the sooner this bullshit stops.

>>29142061
This is good but the beta blocker is also really really helpful so your heart doesn’t race. I take one every day and my dad has for 40 years. He’s a multi millionaire business owner. Never would have made it without beta blockers.

>>29145447
sounds comfy i'd do the same.

>>29149727
>dude common decency doesnt exist haha just do whatever you want lol
hate this fat gay faggot

>>29147827
People think I'm smart but I've never been able to get anywhere in life despite my best efforts. Worst part is they think I'm just being lazy or depressed... god I hate it

>>29150018
>common decency
you will never be a woman and you have to go back.

>>29140435
The real low IQ is thinking that the stutter is related to your IQ

>>29150109
this is me but it's because i have pretty bad ADHD-PI. i only succeed because of medication and i work in niche development. my mental disorder makes me really good at RDBMS coding, which most other developers are bad at. i would fail at anything else

>>29147827
You’re in a negative feedback loop.

There’s no way you’re as low iq as you claim. You are too coherent in your sentence structure and the way you lay out your thoughts.
It is possible whatever project you’re on is unironic shit. That can make it really difficult to form any cogent thoughts around it. And then you get self-conscious. And then you start to stutter and get nervous. And then it compounds cuz you think everyone notices or cares.

I would have humiliated that fagtard who laughed at you. It’s enrages me to an irrational degree.

Treat yourself like you’re someone you have to look out for. You wouldn’t say these things to someone else so stop saying them about yourself.

>>29145204
For me I don't care what other people think of me. I just can't speak in front of people. I get an OCD thought loop that prevents me from speaking. I basically malfunction. I never even finished school because of it.

There it is

>>29147827
I'll take a different approach than the others, but let's just sum theirs up:
>"IQ doesn't matter"
>"ackshully, you seem smart"
>"almost everyone's retarded"
>"you have self esteem/CHA issues, not INT issues"
>"inherent INT doesn't matter, attitude does"
None of these, while 60% right, are going to help you. Neither will Ford's law "whether you think you can or can't, you're right."

What will help you is this:
"People like to work with people they like."
"People like people like them"
"People like saving face"
"Social interactions are really transactions"
"We all are who we choose to be, some of us are better at choosing than others"
"Dunning Kreuger is fully in effect."
"The locus of control is the single greatest determinate of your future"

Let me explain.
You have an EXTERNAL locus of control. What OTHERS do, you base YOURSELF on. You don't think about YOUR ideals, you think about your IDEA of OTHERS ideals. You always view yourself in the lens of other people's perceptions, and base yourself second in that context. You have no fundamental reference for yourself.

For what it's worth, it was this that made atheism so appealing to people - sheeple (like yourself) would blindly follow Christian beliefs like they were laws, and reiterate that they were.

You have never stopped being a sheep; not just listening to others and considering the input, but blindly obeying people who have good ethos appeal to you. For example, I guarantee you've made the argument that "someone said x, therefore it is true/likelier to be true than y, whose only proponents are nobodies," in some form or another.

If you continue to be a sheep, no matter what you try, no matter what you do, you will only be able to get lucky, which is why you see others' success as luck.

You don't understand why they're better than you, only you assume they are, from essentially birth alone.

1/?

>>29139832
From my experience I will say it's better to be humiliated by smarter people than dumb people. My boss lady is stupid af and likes to micromanage the hell out of everything. I'm stuck at this job for 6 more months due to some personal reasons.

>>29150256
poopy nigger

>>29139832
it'll be ok op

Any job that deals with projects can’t hire too low IQ of people. At least you’re not at fast food

>>29139832
Pretend you are white and pretend that the people you are speaking to are the inferior races. It is what I do to become more confident, although I do not have to pretend to be white since I am not a mutt like you

>>29145312
When getting off Propranalol your risk for heart attacks increase several fold.

t. Wuz on pros kang

>>29150991
g-go on

>>29139832
same anon. im in a new field and everyone including the younger guys all know their shit whole im just kind of like a bumbling idiot trying to figure this shit out. just remember none of this matters in the end.

>>29139832
You problem is that you didn't get unconditional love from your parents and are looking for outside validation of your actions and existence.
Because of this you fear their judgement which cause your stuttering.

Read Toxic parents by Susan Forward and realize that your parents are human beings with their own weaknesses, and that can receive infinite love from yourself instead.
You will never obtain love from outside sources, because you have to discover that you always had it inside of you. Become your own parent and praise yourself. Love yourself no matter what happens. Do this and you will stop caring for other's opinion which will make them stop laughing at you when they see that you don't care.

>>29150991
>would blindly follow Christian beliefs like they are laws.
Well anon, not only are many of them binding spiritual laws for Christians, but back during the time period I assume you
are referring to, many were actually literal earthly laws. I don’t want to derail the thread but your bias may be shining through a little more than you intended, or not.

The greatest joy in my professional life is being able to shit on other coworkers without fear of being disciplined.

>>29152044
Checked

>>29150991
This isn't how it has to be. You can in fact, improve and achieve. There is a simple method to doing so.

First, completely empty your mind of your present values, your present goals, everything. Think with nothing at all as a baseline.

Second, ask yourself the simple question: "What do I want, and what do I have?" Why can come later, or now, either's fine, but let's just go with this direction so you can get moving quicker.

Then, after listing what you want and what you have, literally list both, ask yourself "what, if everything went right, would have to happen for me to get what I want?" For instance if you have a fat body, and want a fit body, you'd say something like "diet and exercise."

With this in mind you finally have a self-chosen goal. You then follow up with the question "do I know enough about [diet and exercise] to [get a fit body] as [fast/effective] as I like?"

If the answer is "yes," then move on from this step. If the answer is "no," then ask yourself "where can I learn about [fitness, diet and exercise] most effectively?" Then, pursue learning about [fitness, diet and exercise] until you've learned enough to finally do something about [getting a fit body].

Then, on your own, without telling other people about it, without asking for "support" or whatever, just [work out, time your diet, eat a balanced diet, use a balanced strength flexibility pliability and cardio program, sleep on time and fully, etc.] until you've finally attained [a fit body].

Once you've reached your goal of [getting a fit body], maintain that success. A simple addage I keep in mind is "persistence attains, consistence maintains." It's not enough to climb the mountain once, it's enough to climb that mountain and others as many times as you are alive to do.

This is the model of successful people. They will gladly take in information from others about a given topic or series, but they will always make the choice themselves, using their own mind.
2/?

>>29147827
the anons saying this is a self esteem problem are right.
do you own LINK? if you do, congrats, youre not a retard.

>>29151990
actually god's omniscience is simply through the virtue of being that fundamental thing connecting what is real and what is not. Man's singular sin alone Christ atoned on our behalf for was the muscle behind logos alone - essentially affirming our ability to think, believe, and be.
The testaments, the ladder, the tabernacle, kabbalah, all of it are aside and ever changing one reality through god's vision to the next. The point to keep in mind is that
>you are forgiven
>you are affirmed
and that is why belief in Christ's salvation alone is enough. The laws many Christians break, regardless of denomination, were merely guidestones for achieving a complete life. As one attains more of the original sin (knowledge), one gains a better control over their own destiny, still in line with Christ and with grace.

My point I was making to him wasn't that Christians are always sheep, but that many people, like him, are sheep, which is why Atheism became "cringe" the same way Christianity, political views, and all other things where dogmatic people speak do. Free thinkers attract, fools abound.

But I get your point, it looks bad just saying that, that way to him. I'm talking in the context of talking to him, not everyone everywhere, you know?

>>29139832
you have to elaborate so we can help you anon

>>29140435
I'm so sick of losers whining on this board. Get your shit together or kill yourself.

>>29147827
Being all the things you described is a symptom of having an anxiety-free mind anon

What you are describing isn't being low IQ vs high IQ. Most of the people you describe are actually low IQ you'll find, when you just get out of your box keeping you back
The issue is you. They aren't actually doing that great, you're just doing absolute shit

You need guidance and there is some to be found desu. I just don't know how to help you find it. I was like you but I found my way out on my own. What helped me was success (got all the people that caused my anxiety off my back I realized afterwards. Having success made them start respect me rather than put me down, putting me in the mindset of a loser, making me a non-achiever)

Fake it til you make it is also a strategy but if you don't believe in yourself in the first place you can't fake it well so that might be hard in this instance

>>29152802
Shut the fuck up low IQ nigger

>>29152258
So lastly, let's run a hypothetical where I'm you, and spoonfeed you one last time.

You want to be [smart, creative, extroverted, attractive, nice, rich, and have a family, and stop my stutter]

You have [none of these things].

If everything were to go right, you would have to [learn about creative process, learn about interpersonal interaction, go through speech therapy, train your mind academically through math english science and history, attract women and have regular sex with her or them]

You likely don't know enough about any of those things, but you're literate enough to start googling.

So, the first thing you'd likely want to do is
>go to khan academy and go back to basics
>read books like "how to win friends and influence people," "think and grow rich," "might is right" and "the seven effective habits of highly effective people"
>learn about personal finance and investment
>practice speaking through clubs like toastmasters
>learn about fashion and minimalism

And probably still do the fitness thing I mentioned earlier.

Then you'd be well off enough to attain all these things with some basic confidence, reaffirmed by success. Successful people succeed because they're confident. Your lack thereof is uncharismatic. Like others said, this causes a feedback loop.

Ford's law is right anon, just start thinking you can do things, and start doing them. And start thinking for your self. Then you'll be a whole person.

That's what I did, and I "made it" by biz's standard (north of 2 million USD in the bank, over 200k/yr income, wife kids etc).

This is the big fat secret private schools teach besides effective, bullshit free basic academics and personal finance and investment. Congrats, I just saved you 300k.

Do it or don't, what do you have to lose, and glad I could help.

>>29152258
this is basically just mindfulness

>>29144910
Ah yes, the dungym.

>>29153704
yeah, most people lack it. And an internal locus of control and inner monologue.
These are things you can teach people. So I did.

>>29147827
You might have Imposter Syndrome.

>>29148306
>being smart is an attitude
ngmi

>>29145181
he's just talking about anxiety during a meeting not cancel culture lmao but you are right about that

Your mother smoked hash

>>29152689
Nah, christ is the personification of change and sacrifice you must undergo to align with truth/ laws of the universe vs the laws of man/satan/material dimension worship. Read any miracle story with this in mind and it will click.

Wholesome: 100

>>29145507
Normalfags love nothing more than talking about other people.

>>29153780
Are you the same anon that posted his online biz with 11k monthy gains saying you had a dip in february because of valentines day?

>>29147827
YOU ARE GONNA MAKE IT
Also confirmed not dumb, just socially retarded probably

Sage and buy $SENT$

>>29139832
>>29140435

Had this issue too but since i hooked up with a random girl from tinder and losing my virginity to her after she blew me that night i havnt had an issue talking to people and holding eyecontact tho

>>29153689
Thank you anon. I’ve been battling with depression lately and felt like I didn’t have a clear path forward but this helped open my eyes. I’m more capable than I feel right now and I can make my life better

>>29153689
Based poster.

OP, redefine your image of self and your perception of reality. You decide these images and your actions will reaffirm these.

Practice mindfulness and cultivate self awareness of your self talk. I imagine its like in your opening post, very derisive and negative. This is so much extra weight ypu are carrying around its like trying to run with a drag chute on. Imagine how free ypu will feel if you dont have these negative perceptions. Now, imagine if all the mental energy you put in to maintain these negative perceptions gets CONVERTED into positive affirmations and image which create positive actions and outcomes. An object in motion stays in motion, unless you act on it. Your ego will want to protect itself at all costs from having to change, because you would have to accept responsibility for your present situation. When you hear the whiny victim voice in your head telling you that you are stupid, worthless etc or only look to others as a means of comparison to self flagellate and self pity, GET confrontational with these thoughts. They are wrong. It is exactly like exorcising a demon from your soul. Personify it if that helps, but do not give your "demon" any more fuel, it is literally consuming your life and attention.

It comes down to a choice though, one you are capable of. I believe in you, but that doesnt matter if you dont believe in yourself. Each choice from that first one on will be rewarding. Embrace change at all costs if you know it will be healthy for you. Fear will hold you back. Make fear afraid of you.

Accept that change is possible, and ACT. Nothing matters without actions. Love you, OP. Pay your change forward.

>>29139832
You dumbass next time you ever feel slightly insulted you need to make a huge fucking deal out of it. No one ever fucking disrespects me ever without a fight.

>>29157095
You reek of estrogen and low confidence.
Best thing to do is laugh it off or come up with a counter banter, it's all about humor.

Are all of you guys fat nerds or what?

>>29157404
>Fuk me ID

>>29152689
I completely get it man, I’m a hardcore Catholic. But in the current climate we just have to make sure that we represent is properly cause people are looking to jump on us. I completely agree with you and thanks for the clarification, fren.

>>29140435
Feel your pain. Selective mutism is a real bitch

>>29139832
Why dont you take the time to become competent at what you do then?

>>29157597
lmao, made me giggle

>>29139832
If it means anything, I wouldn't laugh or poke fun at you if you stuttered and I were in your audience. I would internally hope for you that you pull trough the thing

>>29155684
no, a lot of people who "make it" or "gonna make it" sound the same with differences like religion.
Hope you did/do make it.
>>29155151
I read on Christ, not into Christ. For instance, I don't read English versions of the Bible written by others, you don't need to go through all this emotional sacrifice and attempting to pretend to be christ to hold faith or do good works (i.e. - attainment of grace). Salvation is attained, literally, through the singular act of belief in the Lord our God and Christ's redemption for our original sin.
You seem to like the fables a lot, look into adam, lilith, the serpent and eve. The whole story holds the deeper meaning of Christ's salvation for textualists/storyists, and way you'll get to my point through your means. I'd also suggest looking into what is apocrypha and what isn't, and why. The ones deemed simply "too much for the layman" are some of the best for him to reach a challenge that yields true grace, kinda in line with the theme of the thread.
>>29157629
I don't hold denominational faith, but I feel for you guys, what with the Holy See going through what it is at the moment. Don't ever let your faith be tempered through another man's lens but your own, if Christ is the big topic in this thread for you, which is fair.
>>29156823
Look at you, you're the Captain now.

Best thread on /biz/ in months.

>>29140435
All good, man. Try to remember that the trials in our lives are tests to only make us stronger. Tell yourself you're awesome every day no matter what.

Goddamn... A HQ thread like this once in a while, pays for hours lost scrolling through shitcoin shill threads and all kinds of autistic stuff

>>29158685
I welcome Thee, o disciple of the Crossed One, in the den of vipers, cheats and liars to spread the Truth.
Godspeed.

>>29147827
You have to STOP with the negative self talk. Every time you put yourself down you make your life worse. Mentally and verbally. If you mess up, our minds tend to attack ourselves so quickly. It sounds silly, but practice asking yourself, "What's the lesson here?" every time you make a mistake. It will change your life.

I've noticed somethng in high-tech, high powered conferences. The young guys and wet-behind-the-ears students never wanted o display their ignorance, so they didn't ask stupid questions or many questions at all. In contrast, the senior guys with big reputations, brains and self-confidence didn't hesitate to to ask when they didn't understand. One speaker used the term "parnassian" and NOBODY knew what the Hell he was talking about. Only the confident senior person said " What does parnassian mean?" It didn't make him look ignorant or dumb, it made the speaker look deliberately-obfuscating. If you're at least vaguely familiar with the subject matter, it is "big" (not "weak") to ask for explanation or clarification.

>>29139832

High IQ is as much a curse as it is a blessing. You're always hyper-aware of your surroundings and thoughts, you overthink most situations and struggle to just act "naturally". Concerns and plans for the future eclipse your ability to enjoy simple things in the present. You see the intellectual limitations of your peers and have difficulties forming equitable and meaningful friendships because of it.

It's really an isolating and lonely life. I might be excellent at my work and respected for my talents, but I have few friends and am still depressed over an ex I lost three years ago. Sometimes I wonder if I will ever feel happy or content with my life.

At least you can be yourself and endear the normies. I feel like a pariah for being "smart" most the times. My advice to you is to practice on being more outgoing and speaking with confidence. You can get away with a lot more if you are a likable and confident guy, even if your technical skills are not as strong as some of the higher IQ folk at your work. Good luck anon, YGMI

>>29147827
dude even smart people are legitimately retarded at some things. i'm a millionaire and work with a lot of really smart people and believe me, everyone has their flaws. you sound like you have depression which i struggled with my entire life, i recommend looking into cognitive behavioral therapy and therapy in general, it will help a lot if you can afford it or get it for cheap through work or gov

>>29147827
bro im a genius that was bullied into depression, and it got so bad i was constantly stuttering. the way out of it is to start caring less and less about what they think about you. rehearse your presentations beforehand, pump yourself up with a song before the meeting,
i love to use this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D-QD_HIfjA .approach it with an "im gonna blow their expectations away" mentality. you can do it fren, you got this!

>>29159822
I noticed this in the oilfield during meetings. You have anywhere from 3 to 5 third party services, and they all know their specialties, but there's very little cross pollination of knowledge. It's almost like there's hoarding of knowledge so then they can root out idiots and maintain some sort of hierarchy.

I had an experienced coworker that would explain things to me in a broader sense so I can better understand what's talked about in meetings. One time he said, "Why do you think the meetings are always so quiet? Cuz no one knows what anyone is talking about so they all just shut the fuck up so they don't look stupid."

>students never wanted o display their ignorance

I've always found that when I display my ignorance and ask questions, its appreciated because you're demonstrating that you want to learn and are serious enough about it to bare your ignorance openly. Usually those with knowledge on something feel good about themselves when they can share it, so they appreciate it when questions are asked.

>>29159955
>You can get away with a lot more if you are a likable and confident guy,
Until about 30 years ago (in the West), it also helped simply to get a bit drunk, and loosen up.

But nowadays, unfortunately, in technical fields, getting drunk is viewed as character weakness (as is smoking cigarettes, etc.), and you dare not drink more than two drinks if you are among colleagues. (The days of happily drinking in public as in "Mad Men" are long gone.)

these "pepe feel bad for me" threads always lack any substance, I'm not sure how you all get roped into a larp with zero conviction.

>>29149504
Didn't Newton actually die a virgin?

>>29159955
Normal IQ is the worst. I'm aware aware of the intellectual limitations of my peers, but I'm also aware of all these people being way smarter than I'll ever be. I'm neither good nor bad at my job - nothing to be respected for, no talent which gets encouraged. I'm smart enough to not being satisfied by spending my time with dummies. But smart people wont spend their time with me either as I'm the dummy for them.
I was "lucky" enough to spend some time at a sv startup, but this only made me realise that I'm damned into a life of mediocrity. Whats the point of doing stuff, when I'll never be good at it? Honestly I feel like I don't even play an active role in my life anymore. Stuff just happens and I'm like: Oh so we're doing this now, ok.

>>29161048
Nigger everyone frequented whore houses back then. It's not something he would have highlighted in his journals or professional work.

>>29140435
this is the best advice you will ever hear anon
take a heroic dose of magic mushromms (around 5g dried or more)

>>29139832
The secret is to act like you own that shit, even if your project is bad man who fucking cares, you're still getting paid right? You could sell dogturds on a stick but if you're making that bank still then you're still winning.

>>29139832
No negative self talk bro!!
Even if it’s hard to be positive, thinking about yourself in these negative terms is never helpful, it’s a bad habit!
It only reinforces the negative and makes it even more real in your mind. This further reduces confidence. This fucks you for when you need to present to people. This fucks you when you are working on something challenging. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. If you think you are a loser you are guaranteed to be one. If don’t think you are then at least you have a chance. You can’t do anything unless you first will it in your mind.

>>29144154
I said nigger once on a zoom call. My boss is a gay black woman. I almost had a heart attack. Time froze. I was on mute thank FUCK.

>>29161065
>I'm smart enough to not being satisfied by spending my time with dummies. But smart people wont spend their time with me either as I'm the dummy for them.
The's something wrong with this implied "smartness" scale. Smartness (and, separately, wisdom) is not a linear scale, like a chain; it is more like a multidimensional lattice or poset, with different measures in different respects/things. Your merit will be what is your own particular angle/interest/wisdom/expertise, or at least your perspective on something that is different from the way everybody else sees it. Difference from others gives you advantage, more than besting them on some arbitrary smartness scale. It's no good to be merely one of the crowd. As the song says "Go your own way." You'll be more than smart enough.

>>29158685
Divine truth right here.

>>29163732
>It's no good to be merely one of the crowd. As the song says "Go your own way." You'll be more than smart enough.
George C. Marshall was the top U.S. General in World War II. Long before that, he was the junior officer at an important meeting with President Franklin Roosevelt. All the top generals gave their opinions, and Marshall was quiet. Near the end of the meeting, the President turned and asked Marshall his opinion. Marshall said he disagreed with all that had been said and gave his independent analysis (calling for "unity of command" among allies). The room was shocked. But later on, Roosevelt kept turning to Marshall for guidance and eventually promoted him to the top (boss over the 5-star general/admiral primadonnas) and relied on him to win the war. Marshall was a sound thinker, not a rebel, but also not a crowd-follower when he disagreed.

>>29140435
You’re fine. Just learn from shit and there is no failure in life. Picture yourself possessing something that everyone wants but you refuse to let them know what it is.

>>29142061
Based

>>29140435
>>29141010
I was working in a fast food chain like 6 years ago
This guy was like a supervisor and was doing a brief meeting to me and to a girl, just because we were not slaving good enough
Heavy stuttering from him
Was like a 6am shift, and I was covering my face inside my closed jacket to hide my laughter
To this day, I still don't know why I was laughing that hard and I feel so bad that he noticed me
We were sitting on a small table, so yes, of course he noticed me

>>29147827
God damn man please stop, you are not this horrible. You should start really thinking about other horrible people you may have encountered throughout life. There are energy vampires out there that want you to stay small.

>>29165518
Now I feel bad for telling this story..
>>29166110
He's right anon, stop being that negative, it is not helping
Man up goddamn it

>>29139832
>we had a meeting explaining what we were doing on our current projects and I was like a two year old compared to them, they all just say in silence when I got done speaking and one guy started laughing.

Anon, were they laughing because your actual work was worse than theirs? Or because they didn't understand what you were talking about? These are important differences.

If you're talking about technical/boring shit over a Zoom call PLUS bad speaking skills than yeah people could easily zone out while reading email or doing whatever else on their screens. But it's not low IQ...

>>29147827
You can start by ending this little pity party. It's pathetic. Grow the fuck up.

>>29140435
People who are amused by stuttering and talk shit are juvenile retards. Used to have a close friend with a stutter. Saw first hand how much it bothered him but I was always patient and made our conversations as normal as possible.

>>29142061
Sorta this but less cringy. The sooner you stop giving a fuck you'll start owning this shit, not that you'll care though.

>>29165518
I know that feel, it's a special kind of feel for when someone makes a big deal out of nothing and you can see they're worked up over it,
You're expected to feel guilty and down, but it's a nothingburger of a situation so you laugh out of the weirdness.
Had it many times myself