/biz/ - Business & Finance

Soon to be my story, I'm waging for my investments.

>>29111423
half a mill in stocks started from nothing im 30. havent made it obviously

>>29111703
I'm honestly thinking it's very rare, seems most people here and other investing sites all already had money to begin with, which honestly could make money investing in the real world if you had money to start with.

>>29111760
Still very impressive. You probably will make it.

>>29111423
6 figure hell
self made man
comfy but focused.

>>29111805
Ththes the real stories, men grinding their ass off from nothing and making it to 6 figures, good job anon.

>>29111423
i started with 100 USD that my dad gave me as a birthday present 3 years ago. Now, i'm sitting in 600k+.

NEET life you literally cannot make it, because you need to be a wagecuck first to earn money, then you can make it.
I guess you could say I started from NEET, as in I had a job that I quit 1 year ago, enjoyed the NEET life for 7-8 months and then I got into crypto and now I make 4x my monthly wage in like 2 weeks when I feel like trading shitcoins.
I am however still far from making it, my personal obj is 2 mill and I am not even to 100k, but I already earned like 3 years worth of wagecucking in my country in only a couple of months so I do consider it a success for now

>>29111805
>6 figures
>Made man
Lmao

>>29111872
link?>>29111885
Your on a good path though!

>>29111842
I just want to retire somewhere comfy and lift weights and fuck a wife but I basically cant change my lifestyle until 2-3m so I'm still wagecucking rn

>>29111931
Explain your story anon, let's hear.

>>29111766
I don't see why it would be rare in the sense that people who invest their wages can't get rich off of investments, I think if anything it's only less common because people who don't have a lot of extra cash don't tend to bother investing much at all.

>>29111423
Earn SSI for four years $9000. Now at 100k, as expected I am retarded.

>>29111931
Not saying I've made it, just saying I got here myself and with a little alpha from my frens

>>29112130
Hope I can share the same story someday myself, he can fuckoff probably poor as me or was given something.

Waged for a bit and went all in rsr at .002 cents. Changed my life. Now I'm 22 and make >2k a day off yields and staking. Doesn't really feel real but here I am. Still in grad school, not sure if I want to continue.

So very close to escaping 5 figure hell. Had $6 two years ago.

low 6 figures, 26, haven't got any inheritance

although i will probably get fairly large inheritance as the only child, but it will be in decades probably, at that point i want to already have made it

>>29111423
i guess i haven't made it but I'm 19 and I have around 20k I've saved up. I had to pay for my own college, car, find my own job, i loaned my parents 5k when I was 18. Parents never believed in the computer, thought it was silly and gave up on me and let me smoke weed in my room every day since I was 13. Their minds changed when I got hired as a software test engineer when I was 18. I hope to make it, and I hope to make it without having to do what someone else says for 8 hours a day

>>29112361
Smart get it now so it's just cake later.

>>29112193
>Still in grad school, not sure if I want to continue.

Stick with it, anon. Got to keep your mind sharp, even if you make it, and it gives you another 'out' down the line if you ever get bored

>>29112382
Your on a damn good path dude seriously, be wise don't buy anything your not 100% sure about, keep it up and you'll be better off than most here by 26.

I myself have almost nothing, very little but a place to live I was curious to see if anyone even lurked here who wasn't strictly an inheritance child, It's nice to see so many people actually succeeding.

>>29112382
i had to teach myself how to drive lol i was essentially an orphan who was given a house to sleep in but I am very very grateful of them either way, they could have not let me fuck around on the computer in their house with their electricity all day and I would definitely be a fuck up in that case

>>29112494
You are at a great advantage here now at your age, keep it tf up dude really.

I'm poor as shit so this threads motivate me to keep learning and investing.

Entered in crypto and only invested 1$
Now i have 400$ + and its still increasing
Feels fucking good

>>29112651
yeah same I needed a pick me up, this helped.>>29112658
fuck yeah!

>>29111423
I started with 20k last year, went on the BTC, ETH, NU, UNISWAP, OMG, GRT pumps. It's unreal. I cashed out 1 BTC yesterday, have 28 left and 50 ETH.

>>29112899
How exactly did you turn 20k into 1.6m?

Started with 2k of my savings, got into crypto in 2017 and now im sitting at about 35k. Still looking for a way of making it, I’m 26. Currently wagecucking, any advice is appreciated anons. Should I get into stocks? Don’t know how to trade, just thinking about buying and holding.

>>29113119
2 x10 will turn 20k into 2 mill already, it's not that hard anon, you just have to be a little lucky and/or be smart enough to understand good projects

>>29113196
True just didn't give a version of what he bought to shoot him that high.

>>29113181
This story is more likely the truer one out of the two.

>>29112651
same !
just started crypto a few weeks ago, and now i've started investing. still weak and in 3 figures hell but i'm gonna make it !!

Daily reminder that four 10x's from $1000 is $1,000,000

>>29113268
I wageslaved a min wage job for years and felt like people around me were making it in miraculous ways which made me extremely bitter and hungry to "win" at something. I was too scared to touch crypto or invest in anything, but I got so sick and felt like I was playing scared instead of realizing I quite literally have nothing to lose.

I threw 20k into BTC at 6k, road it to 10k, road the OMG pump to 10$ from 3$ based on the tether bitfinex news, road the uniswap pump from 3$ to 8$, got +50% from NU pump, at that point I was almost at half a million. Bought ETH at 740 and got that crazy day it pumped like 50% against BTC. All the while trading back into BTC to ride it's pumps. I was basically up to a million and thew 300 grand in GRT and nearly 3x it.

I'm sitting on my 28 BTC + 50 ETH now.

Basically the moral of it all is, fate rewards the brave, don't be a bitch, don't ever be afraid to take a risk if the upside is insane.

I was broke my whole fucking life. Now I have a networth bigger than most of my boomer uncles. No one knows I have this much and it feels SO FUCKING GOOD to know I did so fucking well and yet, my family still thinks I'm a huge loser. I know I deserve this because I took initiate and huge fucking risk. I had the balls to trade and its not even considered day trading, I just made a few really good trades. I know it was most luck, but those are literally the only trades I made. I didn't enter a trade unless I had done my research and trusted my gut.

Kek is on my side literally, when this bull cycle is over, I will buy a fucking house and be done. I have stop losses in place just incase too. I fucking made it, but now I have a chance to make fuck you money.

>>29114256
Thank you for elaborating now that makes perfect sense, was gonna say as I was reading hope you got a failsafe incase the shit bottoms out again.

Hat's off man and yes had I had balls in 2010 I wouldn't be posting on /biz at least not from inside a shitty city.

>>29114343
No problem, sure there's a lot of people in life that fail fucking hard after absolutely going for it, but I guarantee you none of those people regret it especially those who were already at rock bottom. It's a lot harder to take risks when you have A LOT to lose. I had fucking NOTHING to lose and now I have gained everything. I admire and deeply respect anyone who gets rich off trading stocks or crypto because they have huge fucking balls and 99.999% of people in the world don't.

Fucking go for it, don't be afraid, don't live in regret.

>>29111423
I got 1mil in USD, 2 mil in crypto. my crypto only did around 5x, the rest I earned from a business.

I'm 32. Started with 0 but my parents let me stay at their place for a few years while I was grinding on a biz, which helped a lot.

>>29114461
Plan for this year was get my debt caught up which is mostly done (still will probably owe taxes this year for stupid shit) but then start taking about $200 a week and investing into smart choices, although part of me says wear for the bear to show it's ugly head this will be the first chance I'll really have to invest and yes can only punch upward when your at the bottom.

>>29114241
daily reminder that it's easier to go all in with $1000 than with $100k

Need more threads like this on biz, we gonna make it

>>29114536
Wait* for the bear, tired.

>>29114536
You can do it dude, again, it's all in your head. You know they say only risk what you can afford to lose. Part of the game (and probably why it worked for me) is not being scared to lose. If you always feel like you afraid to lose, you will.

If you always keep the mindset that you're the underdog, you always feel like your towards the bottom and you can only go up. Stay hungry, be humble and make shit happen. I'm a fucking idiot and if I can go this fucking hard while still driving a shitty car and neeting at 27, you 100% can.

>>29114758
I am, I get disheartened seeing some posts here knowing I'm really just starting but I'm optimistic I'll get a chance to make money off this, considering the normies still haven't figured this out yet, been watching crypto for years so it's a bite knowing had I been a tad more focused I wouldn't be here talking about when I will make it lol.

But seriously thank you for being considerate and being sincere, it's one thing when a bunch of poor fuckers say your gonna make it but when someone actually has that holds more significance.

good thread, i just got rug pulled today and now i feel better

>>29111423
>>29111703
This is the way if you're not born with tits or rich parents. Worked 3 years full time investing everything possible now I have like 10 years worth of salary from those paying off and make enough passive gains off that to double my standard income. No reason not to take big risks when you're already poor just don't be a retard investing in obvious trash like half the people here.

>>29112388
thanks pal :)

>>29115013
Yeah I was, I stopped pulled everything out besides $50 and slowed my pace, too much information flying around and it's pulling me from researching and I ended up being safe and smart, then falling for memes like a jackass but didn't lose anything major.

>>29111931
Money does not make a man, you dumb cuck

>>29115254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=851BqHMCaeM NOW YOUR A MAN! YEAH A MANLY MANLY MAN.

>>29111423

Parents gave me nothing charged me £300 a month rent while i was only making about £1000-£1200 a month.

Networth just passed 7 figs. Invested every penny i had into link, and some into BTC back im 2016

>>29115411

Cont, bought link at 30 cents, and only bought 0.2 btc in 2016.

Finally left home now and living in japan

>>29115411
That always drove me nuts, how old when they charged rent?
Parent's shouldn't charge their kids shit because in reality especially in the poor world we end up spending mass amounts of time and fortune on them as well, glad you made it anon.

>>29115460

As soon as i got job, about 19

>>29112473
I am sure you will find your way out of whatever you are in. Most people here doing so well got lucky. I know I did. If things didn't work out for me the way they did, I could definitely see a timeline where I would be living in my car right now. Besides luck all you can do is work hard to get out of poverty and that takes a lot longer, but those who work hard make it 100% of the time. I strongly believe that being poor is honestly an advantage over being middle class. Being raised into a wage cucky average american mindset is so detrimental toward success its not worth the ~20k when you turn 18 and also having a financial plan b in your parents retirement to always fall back on when you are struggling probably would make me such a bitch.

>>29115521
That's lame my dad had two families basically I was the second one but his first kids he never charged them a dime, their mother on the other hand did.

Seems greedy at it's core because god knows we have to put up with their horseshit as well.

>>29115573
I've got health issues so it complicates things, there are times I'm very optimistic about my future and other times I'm ready to hang up the hat but I know if I play my cards right in about 3 years I could be in a much better at least financially.

>>29115443
do jap girls date white guys?

>>29115715
do fish live in the water?

>>29115715
>>29115756
Gonna say like everyone dates white guys, I've hit the entire rainbow.

>>29114256
RODE not road

>>29115596

Yeah. Its relatively normal here in working class families though. I dont resent it at all. My parents were not bitter or wager for me to move, and were extremely supportive in that time even if i had to finance everything myself. They cooked for me and such, and were sad to see me go. I know they needed the money so im not bitter. Just glad i could navigate the situation and leverage it. Once i realised link and BTC potential leveraged my situation as much as possible and poured most my income into it till about 2019. The only reason i dont anymore is because i wanted to save up as a backup to leave home and experience being on my own even if it all fails.
I just knew if there was ever potential for me to make it in that situation that easily it was btc and link. Would never have gambled on doge and options like retard zoomers tho. Thats not smart or ballsy.

>>29115841
Christ he wrote out an entire paragraph on a board that doesn't give you the best option to go back and spellcheck shit, usually when I fuck up something I know it immediately, back to red dit bitch.

>>29115149
You just have to accept you're going to miss a lot of moon missions and stick with what you actually understand and see concrete value in. Speculating on random new bullshit is a guaranteed way to get rekt over time. In the end missing gains feels a lot less shitty than getting rekt does. That said, I do come to biz to find quality lowcap flips but those are more and more rare as the market continues to climb.

>>29115864
I assume your not a burger like myself, if that's the case its much more normal to pay your parents to live, respectful dude I'm glad you could drag yourself up probably even more significant for you that us burgers.

>>29115917
Yeah I've avoided most altcoins as they seem mostly scammy, but lurking here to understand more about exchange programs, staking, airdrops etc I've learned more in 2 weeks than I knew in 10 years.

>>29111423
I have never managed to escape 4 figure purgatory.

>>29111423
worked labor intensive $20/hr job
put into LINK in 2018
now millionaire who owns property
:^)

>>29111931
>doesn't know what self made man means
Fuck off pajeet.

>>29111423
I would work about 8 weeks straight without a day off while my company paid for everything and invested 80% of my paycheck into link from 2017-2019

>>29116522

>>29111423
I started poor as fuck, worked shitty jobs till 30 to get experience, then got better job and started earning proper money, then invested some of that money in LINK and tons of other shitcoins in 2017, all of the investments failed except LINK which earned me $3M as of today.

>>29115596
>Seems greedy at it's core

It's not. When you're 18, you're an adult. You can't just freeload on people, not even your parents; you ought to have the dignity to pay your way.

Ironically, it's usually rich kids who freeload while the working classes in the UK understand the importance of mucking in. I'd be embarrassed to live in my mum's back room without kicking back some payment to help run the house.

>>29116630
thats fucking retarded. your kids don't owe you for existing. no one asks to be born. you should be raised and you should raise your kids to have good values, but arbitrarily demanding that they "provide" if its not absolutely neccessary and they are not in a situation where its feasible is just gimping your bloodline in the long run and this is why rich successful families don't do this incredibly low iq "virtue" of demanding trivial recompense from their familial legacy. offspring aren't fucking employees, they are your heritage.

>>29116630
I guess it would depend on the childhood at hand, if a rough childhood I wouldn't expect the parents to ask for payment because it won't be long before your taking care of them, if raised in a wealthier family I would expect to pay your way because you probably won't be involved in their life much at that point.

>>29116630
Gtfo boomer. How about you work together with your family to build a dynasty. That means having a good relationship with your parents, sharing expenses, and buying capital assets like all thebother wealthy people. When they have you atomized as possible is how they keep the cattle in their place

>>29116630
For example my father had me at 51 because he knew he would need help, it was a shit move on his part but he never asked me for money he did once on his deathbed which was awkward and he shouldn't have because of course I would have helped him regardless.

If I had been raised by a couple 30 year olds with a decent life yeah you pay rent past 18 cause you shouldn't be at home still.

>>29115443
Why live in Japan? Isn't it practically no better than living in most western countries in terms of taxes?

>>29114256
I am happy for your gains, but in ways of life, what's next for you personally?

I am far from able to stomach the speculative ride of this, "betting" on stuff, but instead hold my tokens on the projects I deem superior in spirit. However in fiat speculation, which I would probably be able to ride off if I changed my philosophies about money and gave it focus, I have not been willing to "win".

Seeing how all crypto stand united (real cryptos, true decentralized and philosophically) about giving the middle finger to the central banks, and winning by showing we are getting brought out by the banksters themselves, gaining foothold on their turf. I, still, do not feel we have won, yet. But some project along the way surely will have perfected the tech, incentives and gained a procees-over-people mentality that makes us adapt along the way and gives us true financial sovereignity and fredom over identity, trade and customs along the physical borders of our planet.

Where to? How can we make the world better?

>>29116737

It's not 'paying for existing'; your mum isn't taking the money and going to the fucking casino with it. It's for the upkeep of the household.

If you're a full grown adult WHO IS EARNING MONEY FROM A JOB, why would you not chip in? Why would you let your parents go out and work to pay for the bills without contributing your share? Why would you rely on your family to basically pay your share? Have some self respect. Jesus.

Buncha fucking embarrassed NEETS on here.

>>29116630

This is how i see it too. So long as the parents are responsible with the money and the money actually goes towards helping.
Even if they dont need it its a good lesson. They can always give it back at a later date, which usually is tue case for middle class kids getting a free car etc anyway

>>29112899
But the important point is where did you get that starting 20k from?

>>29116773

Asking an adult earning a salary to contribute to the households utility bills and upkeep is not 'atomising' things. If anything, it increases reliance as you're basically part of a 'team' all chipping in.

Imagine coming home from work and retiring to your room to use your mum's electricity and broadband to browse porn and play TF2 without paying for it. Humiliating.

>>29117039

No covid. I am free.
Tax wise anywhere is better than US. Im not american anyway.

>>29111423
I did come from a poor family but then my family got rich off a couple investments and that money trickled down to me too. It's nice, I get to have the poor childhood story but also my family is pretty well off

>>29113196
no good projects have pumped x10 since last year
but plenty of scams did
intellect actually hinders you in this space. if you're smart enough, you see shitcoins for what they are
what you need is to be at the specific iq range where you're dumb enough to fall for the same scams as most of the plebs, but not so dumb you fall for everything. then it's all about jumping in early and getting out on time

>>29117221

Exactly, anon.

>>29117294
I agree in principle, if your able bodied, old enough to work a job and are still reaping the benefits of living at home definitely pay your share, if your all poor and nobody works and the son gets a job the family shouldn't just pull from that child but we aren't talking about those circumstances, as I said before It would really depend on the home situation in the first place.

>>29117349
BTC pumped 10x anon

>>29117449
Wasn't chainlink at like .44 at the end of 2019?

>>29117349
>I'm too smart to make money

>>29117294
Yes i agree but this is harmless. Its the thought that 18 year olds should be pushed out of their house at their lowest earning potential so they have the lowest amount of disposable income as possible just so they can say they're adults

>>29117533
To add to this: to get pushed out at literally the best possible point in their life to maximize returns. They have no responsible outside of taking care of themselves and they have the most amount of time on their side to compound gains. So they can maximize their risk/reward, but they have no money leftover to invest. This feeds the cycle of middle class wagie drones

>>29117533

I'm not saying 18 year olds need to leave the minute the get a job, I'm just saying that the minute you're earning, you have to be contributing to the household.

The aversion to it is something you only really hear from comfortable middle-class types; if your parents are a waitress and a construction worker coming home from work knackered most days, the idea that another adult living in the same house, pulling in even 1500 a month can just sullk in the back room playing vidya, giving it "I didn't ask to be born" just isn't going to cut it.

If they're not willing to chip in, then the argument can be made for them to move out. Because that's what being an adult is.

>>29117705
He's right I have a brother that lives with my mom and he's able bodied with a vehicle doesn't really pay his share and doesn't work, and you can tell it isn't gonna fix itself.

crypto has made it trivial to have 7 figures today, lucky you'd have 8, and smart you'd have 9+ figures.

Holy shit guys I actually bought a dip and it started ramping up....

RVN don't even know what it is just threw my last $50 I had stuck in binance on it, shooting up fast.

>>29111423
>2013, itinerant hippy
>yolo into BTC with half life savings cos I was really into the concept of decentralization at the time and wanted to "light a fire" under my ass, to force myself to work
>spent 8 years doing (mostly) stupid online jobs, a paid for MA (thanks EUbots), lots of travel and volunteering and debauchery, always living off very little
>got into various presales over the years, hit some big, some were scams
>multiplied my initial by 2,100x
>now thinking to buy a farm for cash cos I'm NEET and without credit history
feels weird but blessed bros... Jupiter has always smiled on me, now I feel nervous cos I gotta pay him back, make good on this windfall for others....
>>29114256
very nicely done friend. as someone else whose friends and family have no idea of their success, let me say this: you have big balls indeed, well done for taking the heavy risk, and good on you for thinking to adjust your risk now that your position is changing. greed is a mindfuck.
>fate rewards the brave
lurkers, anon's advice is the only advice you need. the herd doesn't take shortcuts because they are too scared to leave the trail. and it's always best to take risks when you're young and unencumbered. if you want to make it, you're going to have to become the black sheep. you'll be mocked, misunderstood, whatever, that's herd shit, just a bunch of baaaa-ing, all noise no signal. find your inner signal and follow it up into the mountains and down into the shadowy valleys, into the dangerous places. if you're faithful to it, it will protect you. and even if you don't make it, you will have far more fun along the way. then again, it's far easier to say this on the other side of that journey. it was not easy. just have faith. it will be a wild ride, and it's good to do things that make you feel alive.
oh and beware, it's true what they say: you're here for life.

>>29118216
Dont buy with cash. At least put it in boomer stocks and get a mortgage using it as collateral

>>29118216
Good advice fren, I'm glad you two made it I'm sure you deserved it and put the work in to obtain it, go get that farm that's my NEET dream myself make it happen and enjoy your days in peace, buy around some Amish if you can lots of land they let sit.

>>29111423
I come from a poor family in eastern europe
>grew up in a 28sqm apartment with my 4 people family until 24 (parents got divorced and they left it to me and my brother when I was 17)
>at same age started playing poker, it was the first time started building my capital
>studied math and started working shitty IT jobs
>8 years of soul crushing office wageslaving. Putting in minimal effort, focusing on my CV instead so I can switch companies for bigger pay
> 3-4 years ago start investing my couple of thousands of saving into stocks, p2p lending, some bitcoin
> 40k salary work for the last 2.5 years
> 30k net worth after covid crash, from which around 5k is in crypto
>put cash into stocks
>get some lucky shitcoin boost my folio to 50k by July, start focusing on DeFI
>pool on uniswap, curve, start farming on sushi, chase degen farms for free tokens on my pools
>Crypto holdings break 1mil in Feb during this bullrun
>Sitting at 1.35mil right now, other assets at 50k
>still working the same meaningless work
>monthly crypto passive gains are bigger than yearly salary

I've been poor most of my life and never was a hard working type. My only skills in life is analytical thinking and optimal problem solving, was top 10 in maths in my country. I made it once opportunity met my best abilities - most of my day I am thinking how to optimize my portfolio to maximize gains with lowest risk possible, I move funds between protocols few times a week. Had funds in many protocols that got hacked, yet suffered no losses (just minimal damage due to some price action)

>>29111423
I was washing dishes for a living when I found out about crypto. Now I don't work

>>29118351
God damn, smart man I was always a huge fan of poker and wanted to make it big before crypto on the poker tourneys lol. still love just playing poker for small amounts of cash and seeing how long I can last.

That's awesome man it's inspiring to know it's never really too late, I might be older than most here but I probably have enough time to get a chance at a run.

>>29118283
thanks anon, but I have enough to buy in cash AND put a make it stack into a 3 fund portfolio giving me a theoretically generous annual drawdown. and i still have 8 figures in crypto... well, at current prices.
it's not about making more money for me any more, it's about feeling secure, diversifying risk, and continuing to follow the song of my soul. money is partly rational and partly irrational... overlook the latter part of the equation at your peril.

>>29115841
I'm half asleep and in bliss as btc nears 30k, I could care less about my grammar.

>>29118309
thanks anon, agreed, a farm is maximum comfy. i'm considering going the vineyard route, too.

>>29118509
Just go get it, have the security of knowing its your not under the thumb of some bank who may switch hands later down the line of the mortgage, I've have friends who were wealthy lost it all in the 08 crash and had to sell their assets to family to keep from going homeless, you never know what may happen.

>>29118591
Check Missouri we actually used to be a vineyard state before prohibition plenty of farmland, not many people amazing soil for growing and the cost of living with passive income you would be a king, I love my state and plan on staying here.

>>29118551
Your about as tired as me haha 30k?

One thing for sure doesn't matter if you have $0 or $2m this place drains your energy and is addicting af.

>>29118351
nicely done anon, that's a huge accomplishment. and shit is only going to get more surreal for you, i'm sure.
i've been too much of a pussy to get into defi but am finally getting into staking. for me, the ultimate make it move is to be able to reduce computer time to the point where everything i need to read on the daily - emails etc. - is printed out for me. i will strangely miss this place though, as the 5% of gold seems to make up for the insane amount of garbage.

Me. Wagecucked for the past 11 years. Started 2020 with 15k to my name and a business idea. Made 500k from my business over 2020, while slowly scaling into crypto (and making a ton of mistakes, selling dips like a pussy, but lesson learned). Moved out with my girlfriend late last year, which set me back 50k or so.

I finally hit 7 figures tonight thanks to the BNB pump. It feels unreal.

>>29118804
Yeah It's been pretty stale so I've been trying to make wholesome threads, seems to gather more attention and genuine conversation although my last one is still being bumped and the schizos took it over.

>>29111885
Exactly if you’re to fucking lazy or self entitled to do honest work to make money to invest you’re probably ngmi. Good lad anon.

>>29118611
>>29118656
yup, even if i lost it all, that too would be an adventure. life is pretty amazing if you can learn to suffer well.
i have some friends in MO and have visited before, def a possibility. didn't know about it being "the vineyard state", interesting.

>>29111423
Present... You're a newfag if you don't think people could have put their savings from a wagie job into crypto and turned it into 7 fig newtons... All it took was time.

>>29118951
Sure is we actually have some starting back up, the soil here is spectacular and the season is great for grapes, I lost my home in 08 talked on here before but in the back we had an arbor overhanging a brick padio and the entire thing was covered in giant grape vines, my entire woods surrounded my place now has wild grapes growing so thick they rip down trees.

>>29114241
3 10x not 4

I’m 19 not from the best neighborhood and haven’t received any help from friends or family. It’s not much but so far I’m about to hit 5k capital and starting a job soon to invest a lot more.

>>29111986
bother =/= is able to

>>29117148
>what's next for you personally?
It's certainly not over, I'm going for 5 million, I just need a 3x to get there. I will sell half then. I'm eyeing BNT. Might throw 150k into that. It's a shame you're not able to handle "the ride", keeping your emotions in check is important in life, especially if it's hindering you from greatness. Money is simply a fucking prison, don't let it dictate your life, don't let it change your personality, don't let it dictate who you become. You have to live, take risks if you can, don't look back.

>>29118216
Thanks, I was going all in, but at the last trade (GRT) I only put 30% of my money, as my stack got bigger and bigger, I took less risk (went for bigger projects) because logically I had more to lose. I still kept the same mentality as when I first started, as I needed it to keep going higher. Once you panic and feel that you're in over your head, you begin to make dumb decisions. I think the most powerful thing in life is emotion stability and clarity. It's what I genuinely think turns kids into men and what stops people from maturing and becoming respectable.

It's probably the most important thing in life and it's not talked about very much.

>the herd doesn't take shortcuts because they are too scared to leave the trail. and it's always best to take risks when you're young and unencumbered. if you want to make it, you're going to have to become the black sheep. you'll be mocked, misunderstood, whatever, that's herd shit, just a bunch of baaaa-ing, all noise no signal. find your inner signal and follow it up

It makes me happy that there are people like you, I'd buy you a beer. I like to think most of us here don't cross paths in life because we are all very introverted misanthropes, but we secretly hope for the best for people. We just can't stand the little things, so we don't bother with a lot of the obligations and go our own paths.

>>29118951
It is in a way, I've had money never large amounts but times where my life was more feast than famine, times where I've been homeless times where I've felt richer than most men.

Life is a ride and wealth doesn't dictate how that ride will be, but get your physical assets while you can I don't trust this housing market right now I get a lot of callers trying to buy me and my sisters house and I remember 2008 very well.

>>29119165
Remarkably profound I typically don't usually consider people that have means to be also spiritually grounded but you both seem very much so, wealth is a means to an end and it can imprison you or set you free, no different than deciding to live in a shit situation or changing your surroundings to reflect a better existence.

>>29111423
only made it to $200k so far, but that was from deep neetdom.

>>29119255
oh and this only happened since 2020, AAVE + LINK let bags.

>>29117148
>>29119165
>How can we make the world better?
And that... Personally a world self-sustained by robots, where money has collapsed and there is no suffering, no over population, a place where people can look up to the stars and go there. A world where we can think about why we are here, a world that embraces philosophy and thinking outside the standards of reality. We should be evolving as a human race. Money creates unnecessary competition, humans should be competing to see who can find the answers to the universe, who can make a new breakthrough in mathematics. We should become smarter and live happy, meaningful lives. Not slave away in a cubicle or keeping people sick in a hospital to farm more meaningless cash.


It's all fucked. I won't have kids because I don't want to bring them up in such a horrible and twisted world.

Live and don't live in regret, try to feel alive.

>>29119255
That's huge dude, 200k right now with the right calls will bring you closer to these two anons above, keep it up clearly you've been making the right calls, I don't pretend to know enough to even start saying what or how you should do things, but clearly the mentality between you three was you weren't going to let life trample over you.

19->military->26->contractor->bought 100 btc in 2015->cashed out 50 in 2017->have 50 left

2 condos
4 kids
2 wifes (they don't know about each other, and are in different countries)
1 sugar baby

>>29119333
God like listening to my own words coming out from somebody else, I'm 33 never had kids and will no longer bring any in, I would at one point but would not now.

I completely agree instead of chasing wealth I spent the better part of a decade trying to "wake" people up in an attempt to hopefully change the world around me to reflect a better existence, I'm tired as fuck so elaborating more on what you said is taking a lot of brain power at this point, but I would trade any chance of a successful life to live in a better world where I could go outside and have conversations with people and enjoy the human experience without having to worry about seeing everyone so god damn sad and not being able to do a thing about it.

I seriously considering running for politics for the longest time but the more I delved into politics the more disgusted I became.

>>29119358
well, I spent 2017-2019 not feeling so great about my crypto knowledge, but at least I held until the 2020 defi mooning.

>>29119531
Better late than never, I've known about BTC since 2010 but went through a whirlwind decade and even though I knew crypto was happening and could have gotten in I just kept letting life get in the way.

Nearly made it.

When I get a couple mil I want to fuck off and be a hermit somewhere. People hate me because I'm ugly so I'm happy to live self-sufficiently somewhere comfy.

>>29119611
Actually my dream haha was to make enough to throw at my family so they never bother me again and live my life out with my animals and my plants, debated weather I'd even own internet if I had that.

>>29119666
I notice a running theme, those who have struggled and made it (Most of you) do not care to entertain a socialite lifestyle like many born into wealth.

I prefer our class of personality.

>>29111423
>be me
>work for a year and a half at a design job with a okayish salary
>live like a poorfag and invest 30-40% in crypto
>borrow 5k from ze bank and invest in cheap shitcoins in April 2020
>make 500k

Now I only need a 4-5x to make it, since my target is 2-2.5million

>>29119790
We know wealth is an illusion. It opens many doors but building a life around money and status only leaves you bitter and empty.

>>29119790
The people here broke the rules to make it. Why should they follow another arbitrary set of rules?

>>29119927
Well your almost there really what's 2.5m from 500k besides just one good pump away.

Friends I will do my best to continue to make philosophical threads on here, usually I leave my burner email so we can carry on conversations without having to seek eachother through threads, that being said It's late I'm pretty tired and haven't ate today because this god damn board keeps me pulled in way too well.

I hope you all have a wonderful nights sleep and maybe we will bump into eachother again in one of my threads.

Cashed in three monthly salaries

now at 8 figs

>>29119969
Good point most of us don't seem socialite types anyway.

>>29119941
I've never wanted status, I always told myself jokingly if I had become the president the first thing I'd do is make sure nobody else could be president, bring in sweeping legislation to remove a hundred years of useless law and retire.

>>29119171
Agreed that something smells off. I think it's time to hunker down. A storm's coming.

>>29120017
you seem like one of the cool non-dumb biztards

keep doing what you do anon, I'm sure ygmi

>>29120197
Pretty sure it is, I might be off in crypto but I've been deeply entrenched in politics since 2011, nothing is adding up I actually have a nightmare about what appeared to be around 2020 in 2014, It was a four part dream and I never dream (4 dreams over the year that would pickup after another months apart)

Long and short it was basically madmax, only way to see where you were driving on the highways were the illumination of care fires, pure panic in any area where people were still at, so many jets in the sky they were falling like insects.

I hope I'm wrong but was one of the reasons I never got into this shit, I saw something years ago that said it wouldn't matter, I just am mostly kicking myself for not preparing more but I've made many friends over the years and set many STHF plans into place based off me telling this dream to including many active military that retired after talking to me.

I don't get into this here often but nice to see a fellow anon who feels something doesn't smell right.

>>29118491
I grinded it 16 tables of SNGs a time. It was just probabilities, EV and following best models. Poker is really underappreciated, sure most people just gamble at it but the ones who are serious about it can take a lot from such activity. Most of my following life is related to lessons I learned from poker, especially in finance and crypto. To name a few:
>Many small high risk investments is safer than one big low risk investment - diversifying is the key
>Our cognition is filled with biases, their ignorance can lead to losses or less profit.
Need to expand on this. These biases (gambler's fallacy, loss aversion, negativity bias, etc) drive our attention from rational decisions, some examples of how it can affect us in crypto:
-We will pay more attention to when our decision produced bad results and ignore outcomes when same decision in similar situations produced positive results - this can wrongfully lead to making less decisions in general.
-We learn to hodl longer or sell faster, because we had experiences of selling before a pump or hodling before a dump. Related to the previous point.
-We get attached to our positions. It doesn't make sense to hold a coin if you wouldn't buy it now assuming your whole portfolio was cash. There might be tax reasons, but that's another topic, for me taxes are never a factor in my decisions
>Variance will get everyone sooner or later, never put a big part of your capital into a single investment - be it a single coin, farm, pool or protocol
I'm sure there's more that I can't put to words right now, but I think I covered the main ones.

>>29120265
I'm definitely out of my element but I find you people to be more intelligent so carrying conversations on here seems to be of more substance, so I get something out of this for myself.

and thank you all you guys here seem like legitimately cool people.

>>29120477
Absolutely spot on, think it's one of the reasons I enjoy watching the market to slowly understand it more as I'm a very very careful gambler, but my introspective thinking is lacking due to being so exhausted, but talking farms and poker and shtf are some of my favorite subjects.

Some of my grammar above is seriously lacking my apologies my thoughts aren't coming out as clear as I think haha.

Was couchsurfing/sleeping in car doing gig economy bullshit. Started with $600 stimulus check 3 weeks ago. Just entered 5-figure hell today. I can hardly believe this is happening desu

>>29119165
>I think the most powerful thing in life is emotion stability and clarity. It's what I genuinely think turns kids into men and what stops people from maturing and becoming respectable.
agreed. crypto, for me, was an initiation. riding multiple bulls forced me to confront a lot of that shit. stoicism definitely has its place, especially for men. emotional reactivity is a woman's game, hence why they're not good with risk - nor should they be, it makes no sense for someone whose biological lot is to raise children. men are far more expendable. actualised men know this and laugh.

>>29111423
100k from $2500. Not make it category but this poorfag feels proud so far

>>29120817
Your right I'd say "great" men like that are few and far between, I suppose it's the reason I made this thread I wanted to know if men such as myself were even able to make it in reality or if I was watching an echo chamber of people who had means just shouting about what they already owned.

This was good in many ways because I still try to be optimistic about my future and I can use this as a barometer not to stop while I'm ahead knowledge wise.

I'm still dipping my toes because anything I do I want to make sure I'm doing it in the best way possible so I'm not setting myself up for future failure, you guys give this cynic some hope and that means a lot more than most things in life.

>>29112193
Might as well stay in grad school unless it is truly a detriment to you. Do you like what you are studying?

>>29119399
Kek. Pretty based tbqh

>>29120850
That's absolutely something to be proud of!
(Read it as 100k to $2500 at first lol)

>>29119333
>>29119509
I agree with you both that things are very sick and wrong in society right now.
But I still want to have children. For we know that the cleansing fire will come - it always does. Dead wood accumulates until the inevitable conflagration; then its ashes bring new life to the forest. This is the eternal cycle.
Please do not deny life. It will shrink you. The life of the mind cannot sustain without the life of the body. An AI will never know the feeling of what it is to smile or laugh or enjoy the perfection of carefully considered and executed movement. Or to witness beauty in form - something impossible in a completely equal world. Philosophy is all well and good but it is not everything. To find success in the abstract is only one side of the coin. Do not neglect the body. Use the mind to learn how to suffer well, but do not worship it.

>>29119399

>>29121454
Well I agree I want to have kids for two reasons, one my lineage dies off if I don't and I think that would be a shame, two I think creating life would be wonderful it's something I enjoy with gardening and raising animals (raised well over 70 pets in my life)

I'm pretty ill though so I don't want to bring a child into this world and die off by the time he/she is of age to really start becoming an adult, that happened with me with my father and the moment I turned 20 my life went to absolute shit.

So if I ever have a kid I always told myself they would have to at least have some means to fall back onto once I wasn't around.

>>29119509
you can't change people. it's unhealthy to think like that unless you choose to change them through brute force. when such a thing happens, they surrender to a greater power, to a will that is greater than their own. this is not ideal, but it has happened throughout history and will continue to happen.
people will only choose to change themselves if they witness an example that seems to bring increased happiness and reduced suffering - any wonder why so many ape what they see on reality TV shows? or why so many newfags flock here during a bull? again, it goes back to the ultimate task: finding and following your own path.
that is liberation. it also requires a surrender to a greater power, but to a power found internally.

Started with 15k initial from waging back in ‘17, cracked 1M total a few weeks ago. Honestly should be at 5M or more; didn’t get into the AVAX ICO, etc etc

>>29120477
>It doesn't make sense to hold a coin if you wouldn't buy it now assuming your whole portfolio was cash.
This, so true.

>>29117349
If you know what you getting into is an obvious scam or pajeet coin you can use that to your advantage.

>>29121454
I think when it comes to the crossroads of having kids, it's truly up to you. Nothing wrong with having kids, nothing wrong with not having them. There are women that genuinely don't want to have kids.

I had an insanely hot anatomy professor who I had an intimate conversation with that said she would never have kids. I think she genuinely wanted to fuck, but I didn't have the balls to make a move at the time. Wasn't emotionally mature enough, she was always giving me fuck me eyes when I went to her office hours always biting her lip. fuck me.

Well I got a degree and started working then put that into ETFs and shitcoins... So I guess I don't qualify for Ops premise

>>29120421
interesting dreams, and good that you pay attention to them - especially if you don't dream frequently. clearly something was desperate to get through to you. but beware that dreams are not always about the collective. did you have any health issues crop up around that time? perhaps something to do with your circulatory system?

>>29111423
Self, inherited zero, no dollars given.

>>29121755
I concur but that little voice in the back of my head said (if you can help people from making mistakes then you must do so otherwise you are as guilty as those making the mistakes)

And I can't say I hadn't had a shape in some narratives over the years including many forums like 4chan and other lesser known ones, and If I die tomorrow I would know my time wasn't a complete waste but I agree people as a WHOLE don't want to change, I've had to pound this into the same people I "preached" over the years to that it's clear the people aren't really ready to change fundamentally, for years I stopped but 2020 pulled me back in even though I'm so sick sitting down was causing sepsis I still plucked away documenting saving spreading news, fighting against agenda pushers but honestly it only weakened my body to the point that I think I killed myself in a way slowly.

I've stepped away from that and /biz has been a nice break away from politics and back into what I had originally wanted to do with my time, but it sucks because I knew I was fucking myself over but the moral compass in my heart made sure I pushed myself into obscurity rather than put myself in any sort of limelight due to fear of retaliation, I word somethings here vaguely for a reason but your intelligent enough I believe to understand.

>>29111423
Kind of. I grew up in extreme rural poverty have been grinding since I was a teenager. I literally came up from nothing and now I have about 100k in stocks and I'm in 5 figure crypto hell right now. I'm trying to make it for real this year. I have a nice paying job now and I was able to pull my family up along the way by helping them out financially.
My mom is disabled from a stroke and my dad died, so just being able to help get her into a house that's handicap accessible has been real a blessing. Basically I'm trying to get make it money so I can take care of the rest of my family from now on.

>>29121965
Well possibly I've been sick longer than I've known the physical symptoms didn't appear till 2017, internally I knew something was off but yes my hands are as cold as ice, I'm basically a walking corpse lol.

even doctor's are honestly shocked I'm alive, I always known that it was just a dream and could be interpreted as something else.

>>29121870
that conversation was def an invitation to fuck with no strings.
and agreed that it is a personal choice to have kids. you mentioned a parental divorce - did that influence your feelings on the matter? i come from a large family and though my parents had problems, they somehow managed to see it through. i think that gives me some hope, especially since i'll be starting later than they did, and therefore with the benefits that come with age: greater wisdom and finances. still could get rugpulled but so be it.

>>29121870
Oh yeah she did, my ex boss who was later my ex fiance was laying it on thick in ways like that, two years later she admitted she was trying to get my attention but I was too naive lol.

>>29122229
That's good your parents stuck it out, mine remarried eachother three damn times lol but in the end stayed together.

>>29122081
I was smiling for you until I read the last part, I truly am sorry nothing is quite as shaping as losing a parent especially a father, it took me years to really get over it, I pretended it didn't effect me but oh absolutely it did and everyone around me.

The fact you want to help your mother is very admirable, it was something I wanted to do myself unfortunately wasn't ever able to make that a reality but that touches my heart because you will actually make that reality come true.

Your a very good son.

>>29122130
>>29122130
>highways = circulatory system
>people in a panic in cities = organs attacking themselves
>fires lighting the way = the vehicle (body) needs more heat in order to continue
>jets falling out of the sky = possibly the key to effective diagnosis... most likely something to do with air, so maybe reduced ability of your red blood cells to carry oxygen? fire can only burn in the presence of oxygen, after all. have you had your lungs checked out? did you have asthma as a kid or ever get exposure to asbestos or similar lung toxic materials/gases? if in military previously this is def a possibilty. just a thought.

>>29122081
best of luck to you anon. that is a noble aim.

A few years ago I was sneaking onto busses because I had no money to pay for a ticket. Got a job and saved 1/3rd of my salary for 3 years. Aped it all into gamestop at $40 and sold at $400. Now have a quarter million which is not "made it" I suppose, but holy goddamn.

>>29121621
I hear your struggle, anon. Just remember that everyone experiences the death of a parent differently. For some it can even be freeing. Regardless, it will shape them. Remember also that young and healthy parents die everyday from accidents. You cannot know the future, but you can follow your instincts.

>>29111423
I get paid £450 a day and have been for about 6 years, worked hard a long time to get to this point with no inheritance etc.
DESU its way more than I need to subsist on, I need about £150 a day. I realized it doesn't matter how much I put in my pension, ISA, funds etc, I am getting jewed. So I invest about £100 a day in crypto. 50/50 stable/shitcoins. The stable coins make me feel safe, and the shitcoins entertain me through lockdown work from home. God speed anon

>>29122586
Jesus christ yeah I mean spot on.
I tried a suicide attempt in 2010 that left me in the ICU and had to take antidotes for to reverse the chemical take I took from continuing to turn my liver inside out, didn't seem to effect me majorly at the time but I had to sign a bunch of waivers releasing any responsibility to the hospital.

Issues getting diagnosed have been a problem since my issue is a hereditary one that requires family history on my mother's side and she has zero clue who her father even is, I grew up in a bodyshop restoring classic vehicles no safety regulations and constant exposure to bondo dust and other solvent type of paints just nearly every dupont chemical in the book.

Many times was I exposed to acid etching primers taking direct hits on accident from misprays things along that nature, my lungs are shockingly good although I smoke cigarettes like a fiend, it's the blood that seems to be the issue in the sense It's most likely x-linked lymphoproliferative disease disease, along with possible MS or ALS so multiple pathologies stacking.

Luckily got my health insurance reactivated and finally got a car here (Thanks to some generous dude here who I happened to run into) so I can stop missing all my appointments, and stop getting random doctor's for some advancement, but have multiple infections that needed surgery as my body wouldn't fight them off, lymph nodes swollen all throughout my body, teeth fallen apart to the point of no return, nystagmus in my eyes which causes complete loss of control where I gotta close them and lay down to prevent vomiting (feels like someone spinning you in a chair but it never ends) and all my muscles spasm nonstop mostly in my right leg, those last two symtpoms just started occuring within the last few months and when the leg started going crazy It finally ended after 18 hours of charlie horsing even at the E.R they couldn't do shit, and then lost all sensation in that leg.

>>29111423
i owe a lot of what I do and how i made it to boringDAO

>>29111423

Couldn’t afford going to university at home so went abroad to study for free. Grinded shit jobs throughout summer 2017 and put every spare cent in crypto. High 6 figs today.

>>29122497
Yeah he died a while ago but I still miss him a lot. Especially once I bought a house and he wasn't around to help fix it up. He was a good guy and a hard worker. We just come from one of those backwater shitholes where there's never enough work to put food on the table. He finally got us out by taking a job clear in another state for a few years calling for like 5 mins every night back when long distance rates were a thing and coming home on weekends. It was a big sacrifice, I respect the hustle, so I'm just trying to repay the favor.
>>29122617
Thanks anon, one thing my parents passed on to us kids is a good work ethic so I think WGMI.

>>29123290
About a week after my father died (He died inside my house at the time)
I had a dream, I was inside my dining room and looking outside my front windows, and I saw my father and he smiled looking at me and just did a little partial wave.

Nothing was said but I woke up and I had a thought that seemed to ring true that he was saying to me (I'm on the outside looking in now)

Maybe it's all horseshit but I don't think it is, I watched him die over a month from liver cancer and it was very rapid but I walk into his bedroom and he was having conversations, but would stop when I came in and I asked him who he was speaking with and he said "Ed, he said I'm coming home soon"

Ed was Ed Guffy you can probably google him pretty famous guy in the car world who had passed years before but was very close friends with him, I do believe there is another plane of existence beyond ours that we can perceive, I think I've had glimmers of it in my life through my experiences but if it's true he was there the whole time watching you and got to experience it just not in his physical shell.

>risk averse personality
>distracted by my good goy wagie job
>didn't put enough into crypto because I was too much of a pussy
currently stuck in six figure hell with my sub-10k LINK stack, less than 5 BTC and some shitcoins. this thread is giving me hope that if I can overcome my personality weaknesses I can make it... maybe

>>29122993
anon, that sounds incredibly challenging. i wish you relief and hope that things turn around for you. massive respect for keeping your shit together in the face of such physical adversity. and i hope that the new car serves you well during this trying time.

>>29111423
I haven't made it yet. I started with literally $0 and no job and now I am at four figure hell with still no job. I think I'll make it in five years. To be clear, I am unemployed because I moved to a new country and legally prohibited from working.

Got £100 to spend on Coinbase, what crypto should I go for?

>>29123828
don't sweat it, just wait another 5 years and you will make it. just do yourself a favor and don't check price every day, set an alert for when BTC hits $300k and forget about it for now.

>>29123586
Yeah I think it could be true. My dad died of cancer too, he literally was working one week, said he didn't feel right and next week he had a doctors appointment and they said he had 6 weeks to live. He got almost a year in the end but it's a pretty shit way to go out.
I had a similar dream about my dad the day of his funeral. I still believe in heaven and hell and if that's the case maybe they're all looking down on us and smiling when we make them proud. At least I hope that's the case.

>>29123902
Oddly enough my personality becomes more optimistic the more you stack cards against me, and I just find challenges make life that much sweeter when times are a little quieter, I've luckily been feeling okay these last few days so I've been enjoying having deeper philosophical discussions rather than topical or political ones, having a vehicle to get me to and from will be a large win in my book of loses so I'm pretty happy about that, and It may not come as a shock to many by the way I speak but I'm very comfortable with death and I'm not afraid of it at all.

I'm more afraid of not enjoying the time I have left while I still can, I suppose chasing crypto is a effort in vanity but it also is a way of telling myself (make some sort of plan otherwise you will wither on the vine)

but I do appreciate the sentiment and if I can make it through what I already have and not given in I don't see why I can't stretch this ride out for a few more years, and who knows maybe I'll make life a little easier for myself If I play my cards right.

>>29123979
Bitcoin. 100% the safest and most profitable route. Everything else is just noise/gambling.

>>29124015
>my ancestors are in heaven because they good people xD
Fucking christcucks...

>>29116630
That's a good way to make it harder for your kid to move out.

>>29124015
Wow sounds eerily similar, mine slumped over a car one day and said "I can't do this anymore my back just hurts I need a chiropractor"

Chiropractor said you need a doctor and month later he's gone.

I'm sorry he had to suffer so long, the one thing my dad wanted was a quick death as his father died over a decade from parkingsons disease, I have been in more situations that would end up in the news the next day as an unidentified corpse, but somehow every single time something pulled my ass from the fire, maybe they do watch over us, he didn't believe much in god but he had a superstition about guardian angels.

I'm pretty sure there's something beyond this realm my friend, I personally cannot wait for it but will not take that choice myself, another time in my past maybe but I also decided long ago to walk the road I made and see where it ends up leading.

>>29124287
Be nice consider what your future may hold for you, nobody escapes this circus without something happening, many years I was an "edgelord"

I undoubtedly have hurt people beyond belief by the words I have chosen.

>>29121454

My wife convinced me to have kids. I didn't want them, too narcissitic and don't really have any empathy towards others. Never have loved another human.
Now have a 2 year old and a 8 month old, both big healthy boys. No longer drop hundreds of dollars a month of stupid shit I dont need. I now buy them toys and gymnastic lessons, 2 year old schooling etc. It's given me a purpose to stop constantly living in my own head and let me live for someone else.
The future could very dark wrt government oppression and financial hardships for most. I'm trying my best to protect myself from by being of service to the government, and by building up crypto/real estate/luxury items to protect my finances

>>29111760
I'm in a similar situation but made half a mil from bitcoin, let's keep in touch:

tiagosantosc91@gmail.com

>>29111423
Me
Parents are mostly losers. Dad lives out of his car. They never gave me anything.
Was homeless at one point and still waging full time trying to save what I could and really just get by.
Was putting all of my money in chainlink during the 2018 bear after getting burned in the 2017 bubble. Was able to put 1k a month in after paying only for necessities.
Don’t have to wage anymore at this point. Feels good to be free.

>>29124628

incoming dick pics

>>29124628
Either a scam or a wholesome networking thread <3

>>29124720
Beautiful story as I've learned more about chainlink it really had to be one hell of a shocker the day it ramped up, Be free my friend enjoy your life god knows those who have suffered get to taste life like the sweetest fruit in comparison to those who were drinking wine from the bottle.

>>29124738
lol

>>29119165
>Money is a prison, do not let it dictate your life
Wholeheartily agreed. I have felt a strong rejection one time when recieving physical cash as in there was something behind the transaction that wanted to control me. The money-makers game. It really do want your will. We can live better out of this prison game.

This is why I feel the potential exists for a trushworthy, open-source protocol that can make people come together as a community to agree on trades and services that enrich our lives instead of endebts us to the issuer of accountability.
It may be the tool that can make us retake our sacred place on this planet, and make us self-sustain our journey towards a return to our roots. Living in nature, baby. The big cities will fragment and we will hear our call towards the rich earth to grow on. Wars will not longer be profitable. Etc etc

>>29111423
i bought btc in 2013

>>29114256
I am a young guy on the same path as you. How did you do the research? How does one judge if a coin is good or not? Where do we find good ICO's, which are not scams?

I do need to stop responding to every single post but I've been up probably a good 27 hours at this point and this has to be the first genuine conversations of the night, thank you everyone for sharing your story with me and taking the time to listen to mine.

It's rare to be able to share anything intellectual nowadays especially here but I find it oddly full of interesting people and glad to talked to say many of you over these last few weeks.

So many* okay that's my signal.

>>29117197
unless the situation is desperate, there's no need for the kid to give away his money because he has retarded parents
it's much better for him to save those money and invest them in a home or whatever after few years, then to let them go to waste
>neet
learn a new word you spastic
>>29116737
>thats fucking retarded. your kids don't owe you for existing. no one asks to be born.
exactly
i share this view and will impose it on my children in the future, because they won't owe me shit, it was my decision for them to be born

Got friends thatve been hnded 100k in inheritance, dont even know what an etf is, get all their info from me, double or triple that money, then make fun of me for having a poorfolio and never thanking me or acknowledging my advice. Decided to stop giving the assholes advice. They immediately start losing 100s of thousands a day on naked calls on pump and dumps. Ill make it one day and ill stay humble because i got it out da mud

>>29124008
Thanks for the kind words friend but I simply can't wait for daddy bitcoin.
I won't sell my BTC or LINK (safe but slow bets) but i'm blessed with a high paying job so I can make more gambles along the way.
My problem is I am not the type of person to yolo into anything. I really struggle to take risks, which is not good if you want to make it. I'm also stuck in 130IQ hell in addition to 6 fig hell - just smart enough to see scamcoins are stupid, not smart enough to gauge market sentiment and see which ones will have broad appeal anyway. It sucks balls but I'm obsessed with making it so I'll keep trying

>>29124212
sounds like a fine plan. keep making future plans and make it while you can, friend.

Do you think crypto is still relatively early? I feel like it's too late now but on the other hand I don't because many of my tech friends have zero btc and they say they won't buy any because it's too risky.. And that's just btc, they will never touch any alts like eth, xmr or some tokens

many people will also bail right after we get a crash and they will never return

i remember when i started in 2016, i thought it's too late but now i kind of feel it's just very cyclical

>>29125742
If I can apply my intensity and passion I had towards politics I think I'll be just fine here, and I believe if you do anything with good intention it always pays off in the end, the worlds proven that right to me many times over.

and I know a good mentality can have wonders on health, the car alone will give me access to ability to make sure I don't slide backward again, Thank you friend for your words of encourage and insight into my possible dreams, I think you might have been right on the mark, why I gushed like that haha.

>>29125961
>politics

gay

>>29126075
Oh my passion was fueled for my hatred of our system from the inside out, not my love for cocksucking political clowns.

>>29125497
in which case, KSM and DOT. read about the upcoming parachain auctions. these are why those tokens have been pumping. basically, ICOs that will tie up your tokens for x months (or years), after which you'll get the new project's tokens PLUS your original stake returned to you. the auction format and the architecture of how parachains fit in the larger DOT ecosystem/protocol helps ensure that only legit projects launch and survive. i'd compare it to buying ETH before the ERC-20 craze really took off, and, by extension, buying limited access to 100 presales with a high(er) probability of success.

>>29125961
it feels good to be seen and heard anon. i think that's why we stick around the chans: we can show all sides, beautiful and ugly, without fear of recrimination. anonymity is a virtue. there needs to be more of that "safe sharing" in life, i think.

>>29126196
I'd say you are the same person who helped me based off the way you speak, but I could be incorrect either way I wrote that down to look into more when I'm more awake thank you again.

>>29126347
Absolutely I actually was trying to help people here with their struggles with dating, I've not had much issue in that arena and figured why not if I could share my stories and help people who are nervous realize there is nothing to be nervous about maybe I can pay forward some of the gratitude that was shown to me, and had wonderful success was talking to about 30 people on here at once and another 15 in email.

I have no idea if my advice helped but I received some very nicely worded thanks which honestly keeps me around here, I think it takes a certain level of intellect to appreciate another and we seem to have a lot of very smart people here that I've enjoyed spending my time talking with very much.

Late 30s. Waged since I was 18 at the same small business. Comfy overall. Minimal costs. Bought link and now have seven figures. I guess I started from nothing as my parents gifted me fa and are tightasses in general. This isn't a bad thing as it made me value money differently to most people who are turbo consumers. Still waging but that will change soon with economic downturns likely to put us all out of work.

>>29116184
That's pretty based.

>>29126382
i didn't help you with the car but thanks for reminding me about the positive impact of giving.
godspeed anon, sleep well and may the gains flow.

>>29115287
This poster reeks of extreme underage or third worlder; or both

>>29126617
Honestly shocked you two speak very similar, maybe just speaking to some superior brains lol.

And to you as well.

>>29124435
Yeah pancreatic cancer got my dad, it was in his liver too. They got him on some experimental drug, it worked good and then suddenly just quit working and the end was pretty quick. One small thing is he got to spend some more time with his grandkids while they were little but old enough to remember him. So I'm thankful for that.
I've seen too many things happen that shouldn't be possible that tell me God is real. I have no doubts about it now.

>>29123979
ADA and if it pumps quickly put that to btc

>>29126705
I don't doubt that a bit, honestly getting a second wind here a bit sorry but something about deeply personal stories invigorates me to reflect on, I'm glad he got to spend more time with his grandkids, mine only got to see one born luckily he had a very small time so it was something.

I've met a lot of bible thumpers who haven't seen a bad day if they knew it, but I've met a lot of people who have faced astronomical odds including things that make my issues seem tiny in comparison and those people seem to have a deep held believe for a power greater than ourselves.

Don't listen to the haters they haven't gone through real heartbreak and the intense whirlwind of losing a loved one.

It defines our character.
>>29126663
You should watch Orgazmo it's a classic, and yes I'm a 13 year old pajeet /s

Can you frens rate my situation?

>29 y/o burger
>debt is 15k car note, 26k college that will likely end around 40k (going to finish business degree. Too dumb for STEM but if I just get a degree I have friends at comfy jobs who can help me get in if I choose that route. I just really don't want to wage)
>45k 401k, 5k ROTH IRA, 93k in trading accounts I manage
>10k USD cash
>140 oz. silver
>1 BTC, 1355 LINK, 7 ETH, 4 LTC

I quit my job because it was getting progressively worse and pay became increasingly less worth the time. Right now I focus on studies, stock trading, and have joined a close friend in developing a company (the team I joined has experience in private equity doing this, it isn't just a bunch of autists chasing dreams)

I still live at home and pay minimal rent. My gf and I are looking for a house but prices are high in my area at this time.

Tell me, frens. Am I going to make it? I suffer from depression and anxiety and sometimes am too blackpilled

>>29127076
in the next 10 years you will surely make it

>>29127214
What improvements would you make?

>>29127076
I'm a little tired to talk a whole lot but seriously go through read this thread there is plenty of amazing information in here, you'll be fine.

I do have to wonder why bother with the education at this point, I'm curious to this I'm a completely uneducated man who stopped being taught in the third grade, yes my situation is shit but that was mostly due to circumstances surrounding my life.

Why do you feel the desire to continue your education?

>>29111423
I haven't made it yet but I'm confident I will by eoy. I started 12months ago and made 170k. I'm also receiving a passive income of $300 from my rewards.

>>29127820
Pretty damn good, crank that up about 5x and your passive income with be more than most employed.

>>29127362
I had gotten an associates in my teens that I paid cash for and then stopped after that because I didn't know what I'd get the 4 year degree in. I was in the work force for a few years and then in recent years I have had several friends tell me that they can get me jobs at their companies BUT I will still need a 4 year degree to pass HR requirements. I am about 80% done my degree so at this point it makes more sense for me to finish the degree than to stop now but owe the money with absolutely nothing to show. I know that I am not going to feel like doing college as I get older since I already don't feel like it now but future me will thank present me for doing it now.

As far as recommendation for whether or not you should do it, it is personal preference. I only decided to go back after I had multiple friends tell me they could get me jobs at their companies (all different ones) so, for me, I go as a backup plan in case I ever decide to take one up on an offer. I'd hate to have an opportunity present itself but the deciding factor for why it doesn't work is because I don't have a degree. This is just my personal experience and absolutely does not apply to everybody so I will not say one way or another if it is worth it for you.

>>29127913
Thanks. I should note that it is weekly rewards. I've been a full NEET for 5 months now.

>>29111423
I guess I qualify. I was a suicidal NEET in my 20s and only kept myself from kms because I love my parents and didn't pain them. I made like $10k on programming endeavors (e.g. game hacking/botting, donations for open source projects) and put $6k of those into BTC in 2013. Never cashed out much and now I'm well into the 8 figs, way past what I actually need, just making money for the heck of it at this point.

>>29127991
Oh damn okay well your almost there then lol crank it up 5x anyway just to be safe.

>>29127991
Can you explain what you do to get that passive income? I'd like to build some more passive income streams

>>29128031
Should happen. My passive income is expected to increase same with my investments. I'm also waiting for link staking which should be more than enough.

>>29127975
That's a good answer I was expecting "the girls at uni"

Perfectly reasonable and logic choice, okay anon frens legit stepping away but I seem to have a habit of making threads around 1am CST and they stretch on long as hell lol cya tomorrow.

>>29111423
I remember buying btc at $1200 when I had $1200 in savings.
only niggers and shit skins think all whites come from money. nigger I was in my 30s before I had a dime saved to my name.

>>29128077
I have XSN masternodes. I also have LINK + LP which will give me more

>>29128196
I haven't looked into staking as much as I should but I should probably step away from /biz for a few days really entrench myself more in the deep understanding of this, just much more interesting to me to have conversations lol

>>29111703
Same. Fucking 60 hour work weeks all going into investments. As soon as I can retire early I'm doing it.

>>29128309
It's really worth it but make sure to invest into top tier projects that do staking and a decent amount of money.

>told by my family they would basically disown me if i didn't get a degree
>from a rich family
>kick me out when i'm 18
>they refused to help me financially
i've made it in to debt at least, at least i'm finally at the point in my life where I can start taking major dents in my student loans

never pressuring my kids into school though

>>29128493
Wtf.... sorry dude that's wrong as hell though.

My parent's didn't do me a lot of favors but I don't think they ever purposefully tried to make my life harder.

>>29111423
Haven't even started got 1k to buy in.
It's all I have to make it but in determined, gonna 10x in a week. Wish me luck

>>29111885
>Trading shit coins.
What should I be looking at If attempting this?

>>29128635
Be wise I put in about 750 and lost about 150 but I wasn't being smart do some research there are plenty of anons in this thread who I'm sure would give you some good starting advice.

>>29128726
Why did you lose $150

>>29111423
No one here makes it. Anyone claiming to have made it is a lying jew taunting you with a carrot on a stick.

>>29128947
Buying into a parabolic jump of GRT late like an idea and needing to pull it out to go get my car registered, it wasn't a wise move I understand this know, and inb4 "hodl" I'd rather come back in with a little more intelligence about what I'm doing.

Put $2K into two coins recently that had launched same day and now I’m sitting at $1600 guess you could say I’m an investing genius.

>>29129039
Your probably right everyone is an AI created bot trying to convince me to keep pushing and in reality I'm in the Truman show and nobody has ever made money.

>>29111423

Just hit my first 100k at age 26 after working my way up from retail, having student debt in the UK where you don’t pay it back if you’re poor really helped

>>29129070
Ugh that was butchered, late like an idiot* and I understand this now.

I'm done.

>>29111760
I did, i built a small business with 5 employees and now I sold it and do nothing

/biz/ wouldn't consider me rich though because I still live modestly and I am only worth about 1.5 million all in. I also have some tax liabilities, so lets just say 1 million.

I wanted to care and earn more but I never had a girlfriend I liked or anything to care about. Now I am 37 and just waiting to die, I figure in about 20 years because I am not very healthy

>>29129070
Don't jump late is pretty good advice, even better don't invest money you need right now. You needed to register your car. That was probably the big mistake.

>>29114256
>luck rewards the tards
There, corrected it for you.

>>29129493
It was but not a large enough one to cause a concern, but not doing anything else till it's registered that being said that should be taken care of next week just waiting on the state to get the paperwork.

>>29111423
it takes a long time to get rich. a person working from nothing could spend their whole life accumulating wealth to get rich, then they're old and cannot enjoy it. so they hand it over to their heirs.
INheriting wealth is great, it means you don't have to go through the arduous and monotonous process of accumulating wealth. Inheritance is why people work so hard. if the wealth was all taken by the state once you die, what would be the purpose of working so hard?

>>29129676
I'm not against inheriting money at all, I have a small mineral rights inheritence myself but it's been forcefully reinvested into fracking these last 13 years so I haven't seen a dime, but that should end soon so I'll have a tiny 2-5k passive income within the next year that should last my whole life, and with some smart moves I can probably do alright.

and I've gotten patient waiting on this damn rights crypto shouldn't be hard to hold.

>>29129676
If anything taxes should be nearly abolished, and assets should only be ceased by the state under very rare conditions, they tried claiming mine back luckily they legally had to inform me before trying to yoink it.

seized*

>>29112193
staking what? RSR? I didn't think you could stake RSR. that's crazy good money, man. teach me your ways.

Feel free to continue this thread seems to be alot of people giving eachother good advice and the pajeets haven't noticed yet.

Goodnight friends may all your crypto pump, except for the ones you want to dump.

Where do you frens find your crypto gems? Or should I continue to expand BTC, ETH, LINK and wait? I am okay with waiting 10 years to make it

>>29117310
You clearly haven't been to Germany. That is worse tax wise, dude...way worse

>>29111423
Didnt make it yet, but when i do ill still inherit a small fortune desu