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fuck hotbit

>>29064443
is hotbit legit or scam chink washtrading?

>>29065055
Scam, lots of stories about people never receiving their deposits or withdrawals, when asked their support tells people to wait for the transaction to process but there is never any transaction on the explorers

ive done some trades on there but right now i have tokens that are locked and you cant do anything with them. people have said it takes over a week to resolve. avoid if possible.

>>29065387
Yep, billionaire team member and one of the original bitcoin developers are scamming people. Lmal.

>>29065698
he's talking about horbit, not vesper you mongoloid

>>29065387
Unless you mean hotbit. Of course that is a shady chink scam

>>29065839
The anon I replied to was asking about hotbit

I've arbitraged on hotbit for years as an American and never had an issue. One time a deposit didn't go through, I reached out politely to support, and they fixed the issue within a couple hours. This was in 2018 mind you, so I figure they have improved since then but who knows.

>Vesper Platform Total Value Locked - $196,751,330
>Vesper market cap - $43,621,600
Hold on to your shit, gentlemen, we're in for quite a ride

>>29064443
Why do people even bother with other exchanges? I just use uni and 1inch as a burger.

>>29067474
With those numbers we should be at over a trillion fully diluted. I can’t believe I’m this early

>>29065698
>>29065839
You can still make it if you buy now anon....

>>29067692
it's fucking ridiculous, the moment the bsc craze dies down and everyone starts looking for real projects this is gonna be even bigger

>>29067474
thinking about if i should all in on this or would that be retarded

>>29067900
If you have a big portfolio already then it's retarded. If you're a poorfag with $5k then it's probably the only way you're gonna make it

>>29067900
All in with everything that isn’t in BTC, ETH, or link. That’s my play

>>29067692
A trillion what?
Mcap?

Vesper Platform Total Value Locked

$195,816,334
Market Cap
$48,502,380

I like Vesper but a hotbit listing isn't that noteworthy

>>29064443
fuck hotbit and fuck your scam

>>29068141
Yes, fully diluted. Meaning the actual market cap compared to similar projects would be around 200 mil

>>29064443
>https://metronome.io/about/
Check the team members exact the same that's behind this Vesper scam. That faggot Jeff just builds shit and then dumps the project. They just add that billionaire to the team to sell the project to anons like you.

>Spacechain
Dead
>Metronome
Dead
>Vesper Finance
Guess what's next?

Also the fact that fat faggot of a jeff is talking about price of his token worries me the most.

>>29068449
And that’s with all 10 million tokens. There are only 2 mil possible right now, so this thing could pop off really soon

>>29068022
>>29068066
checked, all in isn't much for me just like 7 eth and this seems like a guaranteed 4x atleast (compared to TVL) fk it gonna go for it. Safest coin ive seen in a while.

>>29068449
An Mcap of 200mil is okay

>>29068566
metronome is a completely different project that was abandoned 3 years ago

>>29067692
What is the relation between market cap and tvl? Similar projects have only 100M market cap.

>>29068970
That's what I'm trying to put into your brain. They build shit and then abandon it. Wouldn't be surprised if they start dumping their airdrop tokens and fuck off

>>29069437
how many times have they abandoned stuff? one time or multiple? why did they abandon? was it a hack they could never recover from? some projects just literally can't work and it isn't the devs fault because they executed the idea correctly but the idea was flawed.

>>29069437
get your baby dick energy out of here. you gotta be in it to win it.

>>29069437
i'll take my risks. stay poor

>>29069623
abandonment was part of the plan of the previous coin

>>29069357
Don't even bother listening to these newfags. Just go to defipulse.com you can check the top defi projects with their TVL. Total value locked means shit. Look at badgerDAO they have $2B TVL and still sit at only a mcap of $130M. This Vesperscam already sits at $90M mcap anybody telling you otherwise is just a lying pajeet check the actual mcap on their website in the dapp.

Biz any questions ?

>>29068566
>Spacechain
Was successful and recently hit ATH

>>29069800
Nice try shill.

>>29064443
Imagine it becomes bigger than yearn finance.

>>29069959
that wasn't a fucking shill. i was calling out these pajeets that are trying to sell their bags to you. A project can have $10b value locked and still crab forever. Just as this vaporware will do.

>>29070363
Spacechain literally worked with SpaceX and the ISS you jackass. How are these failed projects?

>>29069800
> Vesperscam already sits at $90M mcap
vesper is at a 48m market cap kek
why would you lie?

>>29069953
>>29070561
>recently hit ATH
Anon.. I.. please just don't...
The price certainly looks pretty succesful kek

>>29070642
nvm read your whole post and yeah its concerning

>>29070642
>Imagine investing in a project and not even knowing the actual mcap kek
How's the weather in Mumbai sirs?

>>29067474
>Total Value Locked - $196,751,330
The mind-boggling thing is that all this money came in IN LESS THAN 20 HOURS FROM LAUNCH.
It's ridiculous. I'm getting AAVE vibes.

50x EOY is not out of the question, with a MC this tiny and a team this prestigious.

>>29069437
>>29069357
it's a permissionless system with zero
governance, it was not abandoned, that was the idea from the get go

>>29071297
What about spacechain? Looks like vaporwave

>>29070709
Most projects that were born at the end of 2017 were almost destroyed by the 2018 crash, but Spacechain has picked itself up quite a bit in the last couple of months, it's clearly not dead.

>>29070709
>literally started right before the crash
Yeah. Nice, now show the BTC chart since may 2018

>>29071297
>>29071551
Its your choice in the end goys i'm just here trying to give you some advice. The biggest flag for me was that Jeff Garzik being excited about the price of the token going up like he's ready to dump it all. Imagine Vitalik getting excited and tweeting about eth hitting a new ath.

>>29070709
anon, I...

>>29071834
Where did you see this? All I saw was he was excited that people were staking, which is like vitalik being excited that people were making erc20 tokens

>>29071834
>being excited about the price of the token going up like he's ready to dump it all
Lol this is the weakest fud I've ever seen. "Look guys, he's excited because his project outperformed all expectations for its launch day! Clearly it's a scam!"

Yeah, the guy famous for donating hundreds of millions is going to Pump'n'dump us. Makes sense.

>>29072105
Sssh, he just wants to buy lower than $40 but has missed his chance.

t. bought at $28 and already in profit.

>>29072220
He'll get another chance to by at around $38-39 looking at the chart, I would jump on it guys

>>29072105
Check the image
>>29068566

>>29072139
Uhh guys we're so excited and we're really not trying to look at the price. Yea i'm not giving him my buckaroos. I'd rather invest in the autist that doesn't give a fuck about the price of his porject.

I don't know about you anons, but these vesper threads are more alive than most other coin threads and they aren't mostly shitflinging, shilling or fud. I'm sensing something great here

>>29072276
Yeah, I can see that because an anon in another Vesper thread taught me to use the MACD indicator.

He was my fren.

>>29072420
>I'd rather invest in the autist that doesn't give a fuck about the price of his porject.
So, nobody?

>>29072422
The great thing about Vesper is that it's geared towards insitutional investors and it's coming right at the exact moment when they are taking a keen interest on crypto.

We're not talking about Joe and his gf putting $2k in, we're talking about institutions putting 1-2 billions.

>>29072431
>MACD indicator
Well looking at it now it's signaling pump, so rip fud anon

>>29072642
that's what I was thinking. It feels good to be this early, and not to a fucking pokemon coin.

>>29072431
be my fren, tell me too pls

>>29072431
Oh shit was looking at wrong coin. Lol ID is about to pump apparently

Trying to buy the dip can someone bagdump a bunch. Hoping to get in at $30

>>29073128
Yeah, I didn't understand how VSP was about to pump.

>>29073036
Essentially, see the red and blue lines here: >>29073128
When the blue line is above the red one, it indicates an upward trend, so the price will keep increasing for a while. When the blue line crosses the red one and goes below it, it indicates a reversal of trend, so the price will go down a bit.

>>29073214
>Hoping to get in at $30
Seriously doubt we're going that low. Maybe $37. Maybe.

>>29073214
38 is possible, and almost very likely, but 30 is asking for a lot

>>29073666
alright satan.

>>29073666
As the Prince of Darkness says, we're clearly in an overall uptrend. Higher highs and higher lows. Now we'll go to around $38 and then tomorrow shoot up to $47-50.

>>29074074
This. I would probably buy at 38, and definitely buy at anywhere close to 36

>>29072642
>We're not talking about Joe and his gf putting $2k in, we're talking about institutions putting 1-2 billions.
this
https://www.coindesk.com/the-bull-case-for-defi-matthew-roszak

>>29072642
This. Its main target it more stable defi investing. Big time shit.

>>29075487
not only more stable, look
"At launch, Vesper offers a variety of interest-yielding "Grow Pools" that enable users to passively increase their crypto holdings by simply selecting the desired aggressiveness of their strategy and the digital asset held."

>>29075709
Yeah that's a nice range. I'm not selling any time soon, that's for sure

Dip rejected, we at $44.

so wait the vsp pool will let me earn multiple things like a ren dark node or i have to choose what i want to earn from it? (other than vsp)

>>29076471
the vVSP pool should only give you VSP since it is the revenue share pool

>>29076471
i think the vsp pool only recieves the network fees distributed to vsp stakers. other pool will eventually allow to stake one asset and receive yield in another asset, like staking eth and receiving link

>>29076086
We might hit 50 within the hour, damn

>>29071163
50x eoy is guaranteed IMO, I think people are going to compound their stake in the VSP pool which will quickly dry up the supply.
This is not financial advice, but I think anyone waiting for a major dip will be disappointed.

WHY THE FUCK IS BLOCKFOLIO AND DELTA SO SLOW TO ADD THIS AAAAAAAAAA

>>29077280
I know it sucks, but meta mask is tracking the price pretty well, it's behind but not too much

it just touched $46 for a second there. i don't think it's going back to $26 any time soon, swingbros :(

>>29077579
https://www.dextools.io/app/uniswap/pair-explorer/0x6d7b6dad6abed1dfa5eba37a6667ba9dcfd49077
Dextools tracks it perfectly.

If we change code 20xv and write code 39pv we will create an agnostic bitcoin model. We want to make bitcoin a payment tool.

>>29077582
swingies get the rope

>>29077699
Trust me, I am eyeing the fuck out of this chart.

>>29077915
i just wanted to swing one time to see what it's like

>>29077991
Do that at a swingers club, rather than on Uniswap.

>>29077991
you dont swing on long term hold coins. only meme ones lol

>>29078345
This. Also, buy back in when we hit $40 anon

We are going to make it, unbelievable

>>29077582
see this:
>>29077915

how do i stake my vsp the site is giving me an error
i have 43 will i make it?

>>29077963
>doing TA on a one day old coin
>using lines not candle
>drawing arbitrary line that favors you
NGMI.

>>29078985
here's my interpretation of the chart, we still haven't broke out yet.

>>29078939
try and reload the app. it worked fine for me. what kind of error do you get? i know the app was bugged earlier today and you couldnt sign the transaction, metamask wouldnt pop when you tried to deposit VSP (approval worked but not staking)

>>29076913
Lol we'll probably have a dip in a month when it will go from $350 to $290 or so.

>>29079078
hes my interpretation: we go UP UP UP, then dip for a few days, then UP UP UP. look at YFI's 1st month price action, thats what were getting with VSP

>>29079263
yup, feels like it.

>>29079263
>>29079078
Definitely on a strong uptrend. Will probably reach $90-100 in a week, then dip a bit, then rise again.

>>29079152
is it worth staking right now? i'm pretty sure they check how long you've been staking in the pool when distributing bonus rewards. Also, will I have to restake when they unlock the rates?

>>29065055
i legit put some money in one of their "investment products" and i have no idea where the money is or how to withdraw it lmao/

>>29079455
>i have no idea where the money is
In a spring roll, by now.

>>29079444
>Also, will I have to restake when they unlock the rates?
no. either way, i don't think it's worth it to restake too often because of the fees.

>>29079444
>>29079455
VSP threads are blessed

>>29079444
>>29079455
>>29079600
>>29079633
4 in a row. check em.

>>29079455
Based retard

>>29069357
Well it’s not a 1:1 ratio, but higher TVL = higher trust in the product and higher fees accrued, which will lead to better rates for poolers which leads to higher demand for the token. So indirectly TVL = token demand in a sense

>>29079455
You're going to find a way to claim that money in 3-4 years and discover you've become a millionaire without even knowing it.

Are you guys really going all in on this?
I'm optimistic but it's entering a saturated field with a lot of problems being on ETH.

>>29079633
ok, but is it worth it to stake right now? Can I unstake whenever?

>>29078985
Read the name of the picture you daft cunt

>>29079929
we don't know if it's worth it right now because the apy is still unknown. there's a 24hrs timelock when you deposit. the timer resets whenever you make a deposit.

>>29079910
It is a big name team with innovations to defi. I’m buying

>>29080032
dilate faggot

>>29079910
>a lot of problems being on ETH.
ETH is the only chain that really matters anon
anyway, from Garzik when asked about other chains:

"I will probably create VSP on xDAI very soon after launch. It's easy and a good secondary chain.
Other chains must have a strong token bridge to Ethereum ERC-20 to be considered right now.
We will not be minting new VSP tokens on other chains. It must be bridged supply from Ethereum's VSP.
There is only one VSP
tl;dr bridge yes, mint no "

>>29080344
Not trying to discourage you, just remaining a bit tempered myself.

>>29080421
Fuck you nigger.
>>29080818
I’m not all in. I’ve only got like 5k on my initial in this, but this has the chance to be the real deal

>>29080923
I put 30k$ into it.
I found Bao ridiculously early and it will forever be the biggest regret of my life that I only put 1 eth in.
NEVER AGAIN.

Too much shilling on this , good luck guys but I ain't touching this.

>>29081149
>2 THREADS
>TOO MUCH SHILLING
That's a yikes from me bro.

>>29081149
Feeling the same. I put about 1% of my net worth in. Not crazy enough to put double digits.

>>29080698
So, no BSC? Don't they have a good bridge?
BSC is strong these days.

>>29081303
I get that you're being careful, but you seem to be implying that this is a rugpull or a scam or something.
It's the most obvious non-scam I have ever seen.
The fud for this has genuinely boiled down to:
>IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE
Which is fucking amazing, absolutely mind-blowing.
$1000 eoy.

>>29080150
doesn't show a timelock anywhere

>>29081529
It's been communicated from the team on many occasions.

>>29073214
no point for waiting dip because this level of price is so low

>>29081446
I'm sticking with eth, btc and link. This thread with the shilling reminds me of deepbrainchain , quanstamp and req. Hint they're garbage.

>>29081529
To withdraw, wait 24 hours after the last deposit, and withdraw works just fine. (The withdraw lock is necessary for flash loan protection and some other reasons)

>>29081446
When I invest I'm looking for good people in a good company/project. This absolutely has the people behind it and I don't expect a rugpull or anything shady.
The project however is so-so to me. I'm happy to see what they manage to do though.

Even when I've invested in a company that I didn't believe could fail with a solid team I've been burned. Nothing is certain and I'd rather hedge my bets over time.

>>29081722
Okay, boomer. You're ltierally missing the bullrun, by the way. Enjoy your potential 2 or 3x.
I made nearly a 2x already since yesterday on this.
Do some research, this is nothing like deepbrainchain.
Oh and you type like a pajeet nigger.

>>29081357
I'm not sure but I think most people, myself included, consider bsc a piece of shit

>>29081722
>deepbrainchain , quanstamp and req
Why?

>>29081844
Also why?

>>29081722
>deepbrainchain , quanstamp and req
these were all ridiculous shit projects with literal who teams

>>29081903
>Also why?
because it is centralized / controlled by CZ and now he is spamming transactions on it to make it look like it has more activity than ETH

>>29081842
Come back to me nigger in the next bull run when I'll be way up while being comfy and your garbage token gets forgotten about just to be replaced with another token with a "super team"
Screencap this

215 million TVL already

>>29082324

>>29081799
I head so many of muh "solid teams" in 2017 and a lot of biztards became bag holders.

EARLY AF

at least $100 EOW

>>29082324
>"super team"
name one (1) project launched in 2020-2021 with a stronger team than this
>Come back to me nigger in the next bull run when I'll be way up while being comfy and your garbage token gets forgotten about
you have 2018 PTSD, DeFi is not going to get "forgotten about"

>>29082324
>holds btc, eth, link
so you're not buying because of the shilling? do you not see the irony here?

>>29082420
name one

>>29081722
t. has done zero research on the project

>>29081048
lmao. I'm already deep on some other projects I believe in, but I threw in a couple for this one as well. I will definitely swing the others into this after some news drops

>>29064443
Fuck hot bit. Just use Dai or ETH and convert directly via the site to stake.

>>29082520
REQ was a team hailed as "solid" who did have a failed project in their background.
However none of the VSP projects can really be considered failed.

Fuck gas fees, but for the first time I know I'm early. Bring on the dopamine

>>29082420
Yep, it's happened to me in traditional markets moreso.
Just speaking generally, no matter how much you look into a company there's never a certain winner for various reasons or just dumb luck, or your read is just flat out wrong.
Learning that the first few times when I was younger and didn't understand probabilities really fucking sucked, but once you learn that you'll be investing your whole life instead of inevitably getting the short-end of the stick and it ruining you psychologically or financially or both.

>>29082526
Spacechain, metronome.... that's some great projects this vesper avengers team were working on before, OH WAIT....they're both dead.
But vesper is different rrright anon???

>>29083336
This fud is retarded. Neither project is dead, both are working as designed.
Get better fud, retard.

>>29083336
You need to relax. If you're not interested then just chill. No-one is forcing you to put money into this.

>>29082921
I don't see anything special about the REQ team, they certainly don't have a bitcoin developer who started in 2010 or a well-connected billionaire on their team. Looks like some French random devs

and if we are being honest, the use-case for DeFi is real unlike the crypto payments & invoices meme. Why would you even need request when you can just send eth or usdc for payments via any of the established crypto payment processors

>>29083336
>dead
they are doing exactly what they are supposed to

>>29083470
Both rugpulls just as I thought before even looking at coinmarketcap. But I'll say it again vvvesper is different right?

>>29083336
spacechain literally did a 21x after getting shilled here a few months ago.

>>29083620
Yes, the space was less developed back then and DeFi as a concept did not exist. It was a whole lot of flailing trying to figure out what the heck blockchain was for, and resulted in turning a lot of people off of the idea.
People tried to move it away from money, and it's funny that with the rise of DeFi, we're right back at money. That's what blockchain is useful for in the end.

>>29083801
A rugpull is when liquidity is stealth pulled. That did not happen in either case. Both coins functioned as intended and suffered from the bear market.

>>29083612
Won't be rug pulling me that's for sure.

>>29081149
>>29081722
>>29082324
>>29082420
>>29083336
>>29083801
Dude just leave the thread, stop trying to convince yourself you're not making a mistake. Maybe it's shit maybe it isn't, wish I knew myself.

>>29083823
It was at 44 cent and dropped to .007 but wasn't wasn't rugpull right hahaha

>>29083925
i'm glad he's putting so much effort into helping us with our finances. truly selfless of him.

>>29084150
the ATH was literally yesterday at 12c. are you retarded?

no. 20
just saying

https://defipulse.com/

>>29084150
That's not what a rugpull is anon.
I said already, a rugpull is when liquidity is pulled.

>>29084257
Check CMC. Coingecko doesn't show the previous ATH.

>>29083925
It's been fun guys ill try and remember to see how low vesper, spacechain and metronome will be in a few years on coinmarketcap.

>>29084314
Ok anon have a good one.

>>29084314
i dont know about metronome but with spacechain the token was not intended to moon imo. It look like a very experimental side project imo

>>29081149
>good luck guys
>>29084314
>hope your coin dumps
Bit autistic aren't you.

>>29084150
>entire market crashes in 2018
>lol rugpull
Mongoloid.

>want to buy this coin
>send eth from binance to metamask
>pay fee
>wait for 5 minutes for it to arrive
>buy max vsp
>need to manually reduce the eth to make room for gas
>twice
>finally can accept the swap
>$35 gas fee
>estimated confirmation duration: >5 hours
holy shit this sucks

>>29085287
to buy a volatile coin you need high gas imo. YOu can also put a high slippage but bots will abuse you up and will pay wayyy to much

>>29085989
am I safe to go to sleep now, though? I’m not planning on staying awake for another 5 hours. Can the transaction still fail while it’s pending?

>>29086057
how much gas did you put? the transaction could go through if gas drops as low as yours during the night and if the price that you set is in the range of you buy order +- slippage%

>>29086057
>am I safe to go to sleep now, though? I’m not planning on staying awake for another 5 hours. Can the transaction still fail while it’s pending?
Uniswap default timeout is like 20 minutes, so it should fail yes

We're going to see real money being made tonight boys. I'll wake up to $75. I can feel it.

>>29086366
>>29086459
It failed, put higher fee + slippage and it went through in 30 seconds. Thanks anons, hope we all wake up to something good.

>>29087137
>>29086795
wagmi frens

>>29087631
I hope so

>>29088178
how many did you buy?

>>29088261
Like 370 or so, trying to accumulate to 400.

I have 700 of these and I identify as a yacht party, eoy.

is it the vesper finance on uniswap?

>>29088435
let's up that # to 500 total

>>29089100
Check the contract number but yeah probably.

>>29089100
yeah its #1 on dextools trending too

>>29089187
will i make it with a 50 stacklet?

What's price prediction? Im feeling thousands but I'm hopelessly optimistic.

new to this. how do i buy this? i have coinbase/binance.

>>29089187
Hope so

>>29089605
metamask + uniswap.

>>29089499
EOM $120.
EOY $1000.
EO2022 $3000.

>>29089605
Get metamask, buy eth on coinbase, send eth to metamask, open uniswap and use connect your metamask wallet, then put in your ETH (Leave like $100) in ethereum to cash out, and then put vsp in the other token slot.

>>29089827
>EOY 2022 3k
I fucking wish. I would have made it by then

>>29089843
is there anyway to avoid the gas fee? It's bonkers

>>29089981
1inch is slightly lower.

>>29089981
fees should be a bit lower in like 4 hrs when the burgers are sleeping

>>29089981
Not until something kills Ethereum, so maybe in 2030.

>>29089904
If it attracts the institutional investors it's courting, Vesper could very well reach $3k in a couple of years. Small supply, good product, great team, good tokenomics...

>>29090113
>If it attracts the institutional investors it's courting, Vesper could very well reach $3k in a couple of years. Small supply, good product, great team, good tokenomics...
I'm just imagining the fucking APY I'd be getting at that point.

If it wasn't for all these swingers pieces of shit who keep dumping hundreds of tokens everytime we go up by a dollar, we'd have already broken $50. But despite their shittiness, the price is still on a definite uptrend.

website app is fucked, am i alone?

Bump lump. The number of holders compared to market cap is kind of ridiculous.

>>29091097
works fine for me

What's a realistic EOY price?

>>29091097
It doesn't load on my metamask phone app, but if I really wanted to stake, I'd just use my computer. They'll have it fixed eventually, it was working a few hours ago for me.

>>29091097
Whats the issue?

>>29091346
I'd say around tree fiddy.

>>29091108
Most people are probably pooling

>>29091506
nah only like 279 in the vVSP pool, and 2600 vsp holders.

>>29091346
$500

>>29091422
its fine now, it said something like error 404 or something like that

>>29064443
any way to buy this crap without paying 100$ gas fees?

>>29092161
No. But, just wait till twilight hours burger time. Gas was $35 for me early this morning.

>>29092161
I've never payed more than like $80 in gas, what the fuck are you guys doing

>>29092754
It's got CORE potential. Imagine getting into core at $47. $80 gas is nothing.

>>29092754
swapping token for token is more expensive than eth for token. You pay twice the gas in 1 transactions basically

>>29092827
dude core only has 10k total supply there is no way we go to that price.

>>29092827
Core's starting price was like $2,400

>>29092874
oh shit. I don't swap tokens I just buy eth to swap

49 DOLLARS MOTHERFUCKERS LETS HIT 50 TONIGHT HOLY SHIT THIS THING ONLY GOES UP.

>>29093361
i like this steady growth

>>29093361

Someone just sold 30 eth. What the fuck is the motivation behind that

>>29093734
>Bought at 25
>holy shit I nearly 2x'd!!!!
>be 3 days later
>buys rope.

>>29093734
Probably expecting vesper to go down soon because everything else is

>>29093734
i checked his wallet. he got them from the airdrop today so he's an advisor or partner.

>>29093734
Some people got this shit for $2.5 and it was airdropped

>>29094434
If I got anything that ended with .finance for $2 I would lock that shit away for 6 months

OK bought in 112 Vesper with my last $6k

I need to buy this 2005 Mercedes-Benz C Sedan C 200, I'm fed up with commuting to work by train like some animal. I pray this is no scam. It's already hard enough to be a poor wage slave German in lock-down Muttiland and a whopping 70% tax rate.

>>29096287
nice if the market doesn't crash we're rich

OK bought in 112 Vesper with my last $6k

I need to buy this 2005 Mercedes-Benz C Sedan C 200, I'm fed up with commuting to work by train like some animal

>>29096901
how is $6k not already enough to buy a used car, anon

>>29096901
You’re going to get the car but you’re not going to make it

>>29097092
$1200 insurance /yearly + $250 tax /yearly

>>29096901
>16 year old luxury car with 6-digit miles on it
>maintenance in the first year will cost more than the car
And you wonder why you're a poor wage slave

>>29097857
>2005 was 25 years ago
what the fuck

>>29097857
>>maintenance in the first year will cost more than the car
Built in 2005, 130k km and in mint condition from some German grandpa who knew his shit. Also the 2005 Mercedes-Benz C body is fully galvanized and series still ranks first place in the German ADAC breakdown statistics (A++). The car is from a time when Mercedes was reliable like Toyota or Honda. German engineering.

>>29098703
That car is almost 40 years old, that shit will be on the side of the road and you'll be paying for a new starter, alternator, and brake-oil-ointment

>>29096901
kek just buy a camry or something reliable for cheaper.

>>29098703
I love German cars, they drive great. I've owned VW and Merc. Now I just drive a Subaru. I'm telling you that car WILL have issues, and they are the annoying, recurring, and expensive type of issues that no one wants to put up with.

Even the older german cars are notoriously hard to work on yourself too so enjoy rolling into the shop to get that engine light code scanned for the 4th time that month.

how many people got airdropped this shit?

>>29098830
I can't afford anything else. Merkel's Cash for clunkers killed the used-car market. And the remaining cars are being either taken to Eastern Europe (Ukraine, Bulgaria, Balkans or Russia) or are being shipped to Africa. The yearly insurance for some 2012 Korean shitbox worth 10k would be close to 2000 EUR, that is madness. In the end, you either pay high maintenance costs for some semi-new car, or high insurance for a grandpa box. Driving a car in Europe is becoming more and more a luxury.

>>29099425
with an ID like this i don't know if i should buy or not now

>>29099507
>PINK ID
>cRASH
Get the FUCK out of this thread.

>>29099425
Only the beta testers and original investors. Airdrops are over.

only dubs can save me

>>29099436
>>29099436
I pay $1200/year insurance on a 2015 camry and I have like 5 speeding tickets.
>driving a car in europe is becoming more and more a luxury.
That's how it always has been, and will probably always be. Especially in germany, my grandparents sent me money because they thought you had to pay thousands of dollars just to get a license. They didn't know that shit was like $30 bucks and a handjob in the US.

>>29099638
>CRaSH
bro get the fuck out of my thread

>>29099507
>pink CRaSH
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT ANON

>>29064443
were looking at 70 opening tomorrow

>>29100171
>all that shit
you could just do this anon

>>29100587
at 5 million per vesper I will buy and eat 10 mcdoubles in one sitting

>>29100714
I will eat my own shit, anon

just bought, ya'll ready for a dump?

>>29100171
why does your graph look like a nightclub rave?

>>29091778
>500
Way too low ball several thousand AT LOWEST BUT UNLIKELY welcome to the new yearn finance.

>>29089827
100+ EOW easily

>>29085287
Get a job tranny

>>29100171
my autism isn't acute enough to understand this, can you explain?

>>29100943
I FUCKING KNEW IT FUCK MY LIFE

can someone provide me a short tutorial how to stake VSP? I have about 40 VSP in my metamask wallet

>>29102703
Don't flip out and sell. You just bought near the top of a big $27 run up. We will hit mid-50s tomorrow, it's a slight retrace due to previous green dildos

>>29102703
>>29100943
lol just be patient bro. I bought yesterday at 30 and it dumped straight away.

TOTALLY NOT A RUGPULL

>>29102819
>can someone provide me a short tutorial how to stake VSP? I have about 40 VSP in my metamask wallet

>29102630

>>29103467
Dude everything is dumping right now.
Welcome to crypto.

i am curious about Why are you dealing with this kind of work?
go buy waves with your money, see it will soon exceed $ 20

>>29103913
fuck off pajeet

>>29103913
An actual /biz/ pajeet, seen in the wild.

>>29103913
kek is this a real pajeet or bait cant tell

>>29103913

>>29103913
thank you for the really good meme, friend

>>29103913