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> if you get married without a prenup you're literally giving a w*man a call option on 50% of your (future) net worth with a $0 strike price and no expiration date
why are normies so cucked and retardpilled?

>> No.29026438

Marry a woman with good values then.

>> No.29026519
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>>29026438
I have seen even those marriages completely disintegrate. No union is safe these days.

>> No.29026994

>>29026409
>without a prenup
Prenups do nothing, you will still lose at least half of what you own.

>> No.29027092

>>29026409
Even prenups are not bullet proof. Never to get married is the only safe option. You can have any woman you like, and that likes you, have kids even if you fancy that. But never never never ever get married.

>> No.29027151

>>29026994
Maybe if you live in some cucked state in burgerland and don’t get a Jewish lawyer to write the prenup.
Prenups work as intended in most countries.

>> No.29027231

>>29026438
Why take the risk?

>> No.29027295

>>29026994
>>29027092
>>29027151
But yes, if prenups don’t work in your country then you obviously shouldn’t get married. You can just unofficially get “married”. Not reason to get the government involved with your “marriage”. Watch out for common law marriage though.

>> No.29027367

>>29026409
Why do many so called richfags not have a trust setup? On paper you should own nothing but control everything.

>> No.29027435

>>29027231
Marriage has some pretty good tax bonuses here in the UK.

>> No.29027480

>>29027295
In my country they work too, but also depend on your own behaviour during the marriage. Not bullet proof. Also, if you share the same household for 10 years, she will have marriage-like rights after a separation. Which is why you have to trick women into thinking that having and keeping her own place has all sorts of advantages. It works too.

>> No.29027554

Can't freeze my crypto

>> No.29027588

Keep all your money in crypto and just say oops I lost it all haha

>> No.29027846

>>29027480
>i like to lick jamals cum from my wife

>> No.29027927

>>29027295
Common law marriage is so based. It gets normies rekt so hard

>> No.29027973

>>29027554
>>29027588
If you live in a first world country then you won’t be able to cash out/ spend/ re-invest large amounts.
Get a prenup or don’t get married at all, bros. Getting married without a prenup is beyond cucked and retarded. Don’t fucking do it.

>> No.29028061

>>29027846
Well, picking a somewhat sane woman is still up to yourself. Also, a shared household doesn't mean she can't cheat if she wants to.

>> No.29028065

>>29027973
I feel bad for people who can't judge someone's character and have lost faith in the idea of a happy, healthy relationship and marriage.

>> No.29028093

>>29026409
That is a remnant from the days you could only divorce when the other fucked up big time. But no fault divorce really means don't get married. If you want kids fly to russia and buy a woman to have your kids (she will have no legal rights to them after signing) and if your mother is not a broken one let her help raise them.

>> No.29028123

>prenup gets invalidated by female judge

>> No.29028176

>>29028065
A woman's character (and attitude) changes over the years. At least in regards to her man.

>> No.29028222

>>29026409
Is there a way where you can protect your assets by also requiring someone else to approve the transfer to a woman in case of a divorce? For example you give your brother who you are really close with co-ownership of your assets and he has to approve if your wife takes your shit?

>> No.29028295

>>29028222
No. Once she won in court, they will force him to act accordingly.

>> No.29028298

>>29028222
Yes and no, she will just get half of your half (if the brother has the other half). If you trust your father or brother with your live (I do have a father like that) than by all means give them the full ownership.

>> No.29028359

>>29028176
Men change over the years too. You fags act like there aren't millions of men cheating on faithful girlfriends and wives all over the world. The sooner you realize good and bad doesn't rely on gender the sooner you can escape whatever fantasy you're stuck in. People will always change with age and experience but with solid communication and trust relationships can and do work. If you don't believe in that, it will be one of the reasons why you never establish a healthy relationship.

>> No.29028439

>>29028359
I don't care. I'm a hetero man and my problem are women. But for your information I would kill both of them in minecraft.

>> No.29028453

>>29026409
>get married
>on husbands health care forever even if he leaves or dies
>get half his retirement if he leaves me for a whore
>just have to cook/clean/stare at crypto graphs all day
Comfy

>> No.29028496

>>29028359

The difference is men will never win in court over who gets the assets

>> No.29028523

>>29028359
I have been with the same woman for 6 years now. And I get a breather ievery time she leaves again for a few days after a few weeks at my place. She knows I will never marry. She understands it even.

>> No.29028529

That's why I married a girl in Ukraine and a girl in Vietnam. I placed most of my money in crypto so neither family can know about it or touch it.

>> No.29028592

>>29028453
how many linkies for your stinky?

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>>29026409
UUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHH GETTING MARRIED IS LIKE MY UUUUUUH STOCKS

>> No.29028752

>>29026438
>marrying ever
marriage is a Jewish tradition

>> No.29028776

>>29026438
A good woman can still throw all of that away on a womanly whim

>media brainwashing with degeneracy
>100s of dudes hitting on her while you're not present (if she's an "independent womyn")
>she needs to "discover" herself
>she just woke up one day and decided she's not "happy" or "fulfilled" in the relationship

>> No.29028782

>>29027367
is this a joke? Do you think a testamentary trust will protect you?
I have seen cases where they order properties hidden in family members' names.

>> No.29028817

>>29028065
>>29028359
Are you a woman or just insanely cucked/ blue pulled? Serious question.

Getting a prenup has nothing to with not being able to “establish a healthy relationship”. People can easily change over 10-20 years. Even if your wife is a good woman she might not love you anymore and decide to leave after 20 years. Especially if she gets a few million dollars for doing so. There’s literally no reason not to get a prenup (if you insist on getting married). If you end up staying together for life then a prenup won’t make a difference. That’s a win. If you end up getting divorced then you don’t lose half of your assets. That’s a win. Why the fuck would you not get a prenup? I can only think of two reasons
> 1: you’re retarded/ bluepilled on marriage and love
> 2: you’re beyond cucked and would rather risk losing millions of dollars in the future than telling your gf you want to get a prenup

>> No.29028838

>believe in an idealized form of one-sided "tradition"
>don't believe in tradition of marriage
>sleep around taking full advantage of the degeneracy around

>> No.29028858

>>29027846
Unironically this. I'm not saying all women cheat, just that I'm never surprised if they get caught doing it

>> No.29028924

Jokes on her, she's richer than I am through inheritance and it'll rake quite a while forme to equalize it.

>> No.29029046

>>29028359
Stop pretending men cheating is the same thing. I get it. You should not cheat morally but I could fuck another girl without having an inch of desire to throw my wife away and resume life as usual. Women can't do that so when they cheat, the relationship will never be the same.

Also, haven't you even seen a gal fawn over an abusive cheater? I'm telling you, women are built differently

>> No.29029154

>>29028670
Yea except stocks and options have upside potential. Marriage without a prenup does not, cuck.

>> No.29029217

>my GF makes way more than i do
>got her into crypto and shes investing with my help
>talking about marriage
>my divorce will make me richer then when i was single
>also i love her and we are built for long term compatibility and everyone in this thread is threatened by women and dominated by their fears and wnmi

>> No.29029263

>>29028838
That "tradition" works
What use is a career and sleeping around for women if they're all miserable? I've never met a truly happy single lady. They always have this far away look with bags under their eyes, always reminiscing their prime. The happiest women are the ones that submit to a strong man

>> No.29029270

>>29026438
>just trust emotions bro
thats far from optimal, my prenup specified that if she started the procedure shes entitled to nothing.
She signed happily because a good women will obey blindly her man.

>> No.29029415

>>29029270
>prenup gets thrown out because 'its misogynistic' and invalidades fair principles
tell us how this worked for you in 10 years

>> No.29029496
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>>29026409
Funny analogy tb.h

>> No.29029546

>>29028453
>not watching your kids
cringe

>> No.29029588

>>29027295
don't married couples get tax deductions? I don't remember

>> No.29029623

Jokes on you I'm NEETing trading shitcoins while the wife works

>> No.29029709

>>29029046
>but I could fuck another girl without having an inch of desire to throw my wife away
Haha adultery cope what a fag

>> No.29029735

>>29027295
>look this up
>common law marriage was abolished by my state back in the 70s
whew, wisconsin btw

>> No.29029799

>>29027480
Just move every five years, take some time off to live by yourself a few months

>> No.29029859

Redpill me on why marrying my chinese gf (met while she was here on student visa) is a bad idea, she's high IQ, has a masters, speaks really good english, reasonably wealthy parents, solid 6.5 or 7/10 (8/10 by inflated normie standards) looks, kinda oblivious to trannie clown world poz shit beyond "live and let live"

>> No.29029907

Keep all pre-marriage assets locked away in a donestic limited company owned by an offshore entity in a tax haven. Have yourself as a 1% shareholder and get paid only in dividends. This then becomes your liability in the event of a divorce. Your properties etc should have the offshore entity as the registered proprietor so she can't touch those.

Limit your liabilities to the dividend awards and you'll get to keep 100% of the dividend generation and end up paying out half of the total amount on your domestic bank account.

Everything else is owned by the offshore company so she has zero claim over that.

>> No.29029974

>>29029859
>she's high IQ
She will outsmart you

>> No.29029994

>>29029859
Try to find out if it's genuine, or if she sees you as a free green card

>> No.29030009

>>29028065
Just be good looking bro

>> No.29030017

>>29029263
If a man can be "strong" due to tradition and not himself, he isnt strong

Men larp as wanting "tradition" all the time in current times. Tradition secured the female part of the deal as well as male

>> No.29030027

>>29029588
Yes. And even more so if you got little kiddies running around

>> No.29030105

>>29029415
My lawyer assured me its a pretty solid contract hes a pretty cool guy who hates women as well , he got divorced... twice so he knows his shit I trust him infinetly more than some rando on 4chan soo yeah I dont care about your irrelevant opinion

>> No.29030134

>>29029974
I mean in comparison to most of the women I've known/ dated, she's the most intelligent, I don't think she's a genius or anything

Her parents could if they wanted too though, knowing the legal system there much better etc. Relationship is very open and honest though, and even though they kinda dislike her dating a laowai they seem to like me

>> No.29030184

>>29026438
There is no woman on earth who could resist the urge when no-fault divorce is possible.

>> No.29030219

>>29029994
She wants me to live there with her, her parents already have a mortgage on an apartment for after she finds a husband...

>> No.29030226

>>29026409
Bc they fall for the pol scheme and think marrying means you've made it

>> No.29030258

>>29029859
>clown world
you are part of it if you decide to race mix you fucking retard

>> No.29030342

>>29030105
hahaha. where can i find a lawyer who hates women

>> No.29030471

>>29028222
>brother gets divorced
It’s like the game is rigged

>> No.29030585
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29030585

Im getting married in August (hopefully if COVID doesn't fuck this up).

If I only mention that I would like to sign a prenup to my fiance, she is getting angry as fuck, and asking my why do I assume that we will split in the future.

Wut do?

>> No.29030639

>>29030585
>Wut do?
Don’t get married, you already know this but are too much of a cuck to act on it.

>> No.29030724

>>29026409
SHE deserves it! My baby Bella, if only ARPA would gimme my car keys back.

MPC? Never heard of it.

>> No.29030837

>>29030585
This is why prenups are fucked. Women are too emotional to understand that prenups are just as much a safeguard as life insurance. You don't expect to die, but if worse comes to shove it's the best option out there
Some incel anon is inevitably going to post that this means the girl is only in it for the cash, but it's just how women work. They can't see the forest for the trees, it's not their fault

>> No.29030914

>>29030585
You're whipped. She's gonna take everything from you.

>> No.29031076

>>29030585
Stop being a cuck. Explain that it won’t make a difference if you stay together for life (true) so she shouldn’t care.

You will want KYS if you end up getting divorced in 20 years and didn’t get a prenup.

>> No.29031264

>>29029709
what's the cope it's true

>> No.29031284

>>29030585

If she gets angry you should really ask yourself if she truly loves you.

>> No.29031543

>>29030585
>If I only mention that I would like to
she's already in control and you're fucked

>> No.29031569

>>29028093
>just fly to Russia bro and marry a hotty
>just get her to have your kids and sign them over to you
>just throw her in the trash when her looks fade

Imagine believing Russian women are this dumb. Do you think a Russian judge is going to side with you (a filthy Western carpet bagger) over a native Russian woman in all three cases above?

Those ads you are clicking on are all bullshit

>> No.29031637

>>29030219
Need strong frame to keep your independence on her homeground anon, you would know best if she is the kind to get bossy when she holds the cards

>> No.29031678

>>29030585
If you need prenup, don't get married in the first place. Getting a divorce should be 20x harder than it is currently.

>> No.29031694

>tfw trad wife who earns more than me

>> No.29031698

>>29031569
You got me wrong. It is a transaction, you pay her. It is a service she provides that is accepted practice.

>> No.29031794

>>29031694
Where did you find her anon? What was her partner count before you met her?

>> No.29031840

>>29031698
Ok. I just have a hard time believing a Russian woman can't change her mind after the kid is born. This happens all the time in Western countries with adoptions. No state agency, even as feral and nasty as Russia's, wants to be seen snatching babies from crying mothers.

I am sure it happens, but the mother - baby biological instinct is a fucking powerful force in the world. Women can and do change their minds all the time.

>> No.29031996

Just marry someone who you love and trust anons. It's that simple.

>> No.29032024

>>29031840
I can only tell you that it is a regulated transaction, legal and was already uphold before courts. I know because I read up about it if I ever make it.

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>>29026438
What you perceive to be a woman with good values can change when her personality does a 180 after marriage. The legal reality is you're sky diving with it being more likely your chute doesn't open. You're at the woman's mercy in day and age and dumb /pol/ tards suffering from survivorship bias celebrate this thinking they're so smart right before their trad angel starts utilizing that power disparity as encouraged by globo homo.

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>itt: incels think a prenup will stop the court from forcing you to give half your shit to the whore anyways

>> No.29032321

>>29031996
Everyone marries someone they love and trust. The point is that you don’t know what your relationship will be like in 10, 20 or 30 years. Maybe she finds someone else. Maybe you just don’t love each other anymore. 70% of divorces are initiated by women. All of those women used to be in loving relationships. Marriage is not like in Disney movies. Don’t cuck yourself financially.

>> No.29032422

>>29031794
By a mutual friend, she was a virgin and we waited until marriage

>> No.29032470

>>29031694
shes not trad if she has a career

>> No.29032567

Marriage is the ultimate rugpull.

>> No.29032574

>>29026409
>marrying a woman who is going to rug you
do people actually fall for this? thats like telling me a "mcdonalds coin" is worth investing in

>> No.29032670

>>29032321
>Everyone marries someone they love and trust.

no they fucking don't, normies will have shit relationship and still marry

>> No.29032693

Reading some of the posts hurts. It hurts seeing young men falling into the same trap over and over generation after generation.
Just take my advice, please. Do not get married. And thank me later.

>> No.29032697

>>29032321
You also need to exercise good judgement, I guess. Mutual virgins going in to a marriage divorce at like an 18% for versus like 45%, for a good reason.

>> No.29032707

>>29026438
Bluepilled af

>> No.29032730

>>29030585
If she's getting that defensive that is essentially mutually beneficial and covers both of your asses if either of you decide to fuck each other over to the point where you want to divorce, then there is definitely a reason behind her rationale, emotional or not~ tread carefully and consider the best and worst case scenarios accordingly

>> No.29032840

>>29032730
*defensive over something that is essentially mutually beneficial**

>> No.29032868

>>29030585
Don't marry her bro.

>> No.29032897

>>29026409
I’ll get a french citizenship if i marry my current girlfriend so it has its bonuses in certain situations.

>> No.29032900

>>29026519
This. No one is safe anymore. The most stable marriages are getting destroyed in clown world

>> No.29032905

>>29030585
Get a prenup or dont marry her retard

>> No.29032964

>>29027480
What if your house is in a trust

>> No.29032976

>>29026409
>getting married with a retard who doesn't do her own crypto infesting, using your combined wages to ensure you fucking make it cause both of you are pouring money into healthy prospects

try not marrying retards, dumb ass. my fiance has a better portfolio than you.

>> No.29032995

>>29032697
Ok so let’s say you find the perfect virgin waifu (good luck) and “only” have an 18% probability of divorce. Why would you still not get a prenup? It’s a no-brainer. Literally no reason not to get a prenup if you want to get married.

Are you guys just coping with being in non-prenup relationships, or?

>> No.29033120

>>29027295
No common law marriage in Germany btw so just get a nice Church ceremony

>> No.29033124

>>29030585
Explain to her that is is for the family wealth and inheritance. To make things less complicated.

>> No.29033125

>>29032964
I don't know. I'd have to ask a lawyer.

>> No.29033193

>>29032422
Nice. Good for you, anon.

>> No.29033218

Unironically. Only get married .. if you're marrying up.

>> No.29033352

I don't get it. I have 56k link. Let's say the linkies appreciate from 33 dollars to 100 over our marriage. This would be a gain of roughly 3.5m dollars. She is entitled to 1.75m just for marrying with me? The asset is not even hers since I bought this 3 years ago single.

>> No.29033402
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I cashed out 10% of my folio and gave my ex-fiancee $200k after breaking up with her, so she could afford to buy her own place. It's the least I could do because I failed to follow through with the promise I gave her to marry her and start a family.

I didn't have to do that. She didn't even know I had that kind of money. Only me and the tax authorities knew.

>> No.29033406

>>29033125
I think you if you put your home and retirement accounts in a irrevocable trust prior to getting married then she isn’t entitled to shit

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>>29033352
Anon I...

>> No.29033630

>>29033517
It doesn't make any sense. I'm never planning to sell. We re not going to live a life of such luxury she needs a 2 to 3 million payout to maintain her current lifestyle. I honestly don't get it

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>>29033352
It’s worse than that. She might be entitled to half of your stinkers even if they don’t go up in value.
Maybe talk to a lawyer.

>> No.29033659

Stay away from the marriage scam, anon. DYOR about MGTOW.

>> No.29034143

>>29028776
Happened to me. 3.5 years living with someone who got homesick and had a mental breakdown because of it. Stuck it out, took time off myself to look after her... and then it all happened again and she went home lol. Relationships are not worth the trouble really.

>> No.29035402

Bump

>> No.29035709

>>29028093
bro you should read up on a chap called "Hans Reiser", he did exactly that and lets just say... it didn't end well for him. Infact there's a thread on him on /g/ at this very moment.

>> No.29035750

>>29028453
Have kids

>> No.29035868

>>29029859
No miscegenation

>> No.29035973

>>29030342
This

>> No.29036259

>>29030585
Demand that shit retard. Why are you guys asking women for shit? You’re the man, she follows you, if not, kick her to the curb. That should be your fucking mindset. Do not give her an ultimatum, do not say “prenup or no marriage”, because then it’s signed under distress and void. Just lay your dick on the table and say, “sign the prenup for my financial security” if she objects then leave

>> No.29036351

>>29036259
Voidable*, not void

>> No.29036649

>>29033630
It’s fuck. That’s the point. Don’t tell her what you have and she won’t know to look

>> No.29036898

>expecting the authorities to put your best interests over a cunt's
The only pre-nup that works is a fucking gun. If you're such a cuck that you'd let the state and a whore cuck you then you deserve it. Just be honest that you'd probably shoot her if she cheated on you/robbed you and you'd understand if she did the same. She'll either respect you or realise she can't use you as a credit card and accessory to compliment a narcissistic lifestyle

>> No.29037023

>>29026409
Don't get married in a cucked w*stern country, then. In fact, don't live in a cucked w*stern country at all if you can help it. If they want to be a dystopia, then fuck 'em.

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>>29026438
>what is: incentives

>> No.29037379

Donate all your money to a family member.

Divorce the bitch.

Family member donates it all back.


???

Profit.

>> No.29037429

>>29026409
What wife? I lost her tragically in a boating accident

>> No.29037747

>>29030585
fucking abort curry nigger

>> No.29039153

>>29027231
To have a family

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>>29030837
>You don't expect to die

>> No.29039654

>>29026438
This anon is 1000% getting rekt and will post here how he couldnt see it coming in few years

>> No.29039801

>>29032024
Where do I read more on that, anon? I'm interested

>> No.29040367

>>29028453
Based roast

>> No.29040470

>>29029859
shes chinese

>> No.29040696

>married a nip
>literally worships me
Prenups are for white women

>> No.29040864

>>29029859
Are you also reasonably wealthy? In China she will eventually be embarrassed of you if you don't over achieve.

>>29029994
lol boomer, US residency is a liability these days

>> No.29041050

>>29030585
Explain it so that you do it for 'her' protection so she keeps what's hers and you keep what's yours.

>> No.29041123

>>29026438
Good luck buying an amish woman.

>> No.29041158

>>29029859
She's Chinese. There's 3 billion yellow chinks in the world and you want to make yet another set of identical-looking drones

>> No.29041362

i'd give literally 100% of everything i have for a couple of happy years with a qt wife

>> No.29041423

>>29030585
Your relationship was over the moment she reacted that way. Do your best to part ways gracefully.

>> No.29041443

>>29030585
Imagine asking this question as though you don't already know the answer. Signing it is the cost of marrying you, which is nothing if she doesn't plan on divorcing you.

>> No.29041584

>>29029859
You should really find out if she has Chinese traditionalist mindset, that parents must take priority, and you'll have to take care of them when they are older

>> No.29041660

>>29026409
>Have most of your net worth in crypto across multiple wallets from monero to stablecoins to altcoins to btc/eth
>dont tell your wife
its that simple

>> No.29041905

>>29030837
>It's not their fault
Imagine white knighting for whores on a Pajeet shitcoin forum. If I was as pathetic as you, I would've killed myself.

>> No.29042040

>>29033352
Use mixers and get the LINK out to a wallet that can't be linked to you. Don't be a retard

>> No.29042264

https://youtu.be/asbcpIwoMTQ?t=312

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>getting married
>having kids
Worse fucking move in you life. Enjoy giving half your shit to you roastie wife and paying child support for shitty kids who will probably end up drug addicts, criminals.

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>>29026438
Ironically they only maintain those values when you don’t marry them lol. Game Theory suggests that women are emotionally unstable and men need a way out if SHTF. If you get married as a man you’re throwing away the only leverage you have in a relationship, an idiotic move at best.