/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28971607
>septuple spend kek

Any pool you recommend with a high reward right now anon? I'm on AVAX/LINK doing like 18PNG/week

>>28971607
Quick reminder (because sneaky AVAX devs won’t remind you):

Zero Exchange is the first and best DEX on Avalanche.

The most lucrative farming APY can be found at zero.exchange. The AVAX/ZERO pair in particular is very generous.

>>28971607
Any yield optimizer in the horizon for Avalanche?

I already saw that the markets are on the rise. Do you think Avax will break the all-time highs again?

>>28971962
No. I've used both Zero and Pangolin and 100% prefer Pangolin , more pools, more exchanges, Pangolin currency is worth more. You can keep shilling zero, but honestly if you go to both exchanges the difference is massive.

>>28971962
Does Zero compound rewards?

>>28971962
Theres a reason they need to offer higher APY to attract liquidity...

TOPKEK
NGMI
YWNBAW
SNEED

>>28972076
You can prefer whichever DEX you want. I’m just reminding everyone that the best APY can be found at zero.exchange.

I mean, come on. Don’t you think it is bizarre that this so-called Avalanche General is attempting to gas light AVAX users by pretending Zero Exchange doesn’t exist? How fucking weird is that?

>>28972094
Yes, Zero compounds. You can withdraw and reinvest as frequently as you want.

it is really $38 a good dip?
i don't know if avax can reach triple dígits but it looks stable at least

>>28972121
That isn’t how Zero Exchange farming works. This is their method for spreading liquidity into the community, risk-reward doesn’t come into play.

>>28971607
BONUS BLOCKS

>>28972352
It probably is the best we will get. Could easily be back at $60 this week.

>>28972430
DOUBLE MINT

>>28972321
That's not what compounding means. I can do that on pangolin.

>>28971890
>doesn't know the difference between a double-spend and a state validation error
ngmi
https://medium.com/avalancheavax/preliminary-analysis-of-the-invalid-minting-bug-bee940cbd9e9
educate yourself kumar, you could get some extra rupees if you improved ur fudding

>>28972597
Stop being a retard.

>>28972619
It was a double spend and the turkroach team tried to hide it

>>28971910
nigga the best pool is the one with the greatest pool/fee ratio, i think right now that is avax/png but that may change.

>>28972660
No. It has worked great for me so far.

>>28972787
So that would be AVAX/ZERO then, over at zero.exchange.

>>28972691
they literally filled a whole report about the issue, you ain't even elaborating how is it a double spend.
AVAX fudders are pathetic

Thanks anon, any other one you want to share?

>>28973027
I mean i guess it isnt that bad bonus blocks for all ya know?

>fudding campaign against AVAX
>anons have started to hunt AVAX threads
unironic major buy signal

What about Binance withdrawals? Is everything open and ok now?

Never participated in liquidity mining before.
Any pitfalls i should watch for?
Just want to get some pangolin tokens and don't want to lose a single avax (except fees of course).

DOT is waiting for you & only you!

Super impressed with Pangolin metrics. Once Binance unfucks itself we should be seeing a lot of capital flowing into the ecosystem.

>>28973221
Make sure you investigate mining with Zero Exchange. Their APY beats Pangolin, but for some strange reason, this so-called Avalanche General wants to hide this fact from you.

>>28973299
>DOT
have fun w/ the pedocoin
https://www.businessinsider.com/ethereum-cofounder-gavin-wood-apologizes-for-blog-post-about-sex-with-preteen-girl-elizabeth-2018-9
fbi raids are sorta bearish
>>28973221
Pangolin has a whole tutorial on their website, you could check it out anon

in the whitepaper it says thag avalanche will support smart contracts in solidity++

is solidity++ already available, if not is there a date provided for the release?

>>28971607
AVAXbros, let's stop FUDding zero. Even if they rug, who cares? When Avalanche's successful there'll be many rugs, that's part of the DEFI ecosystem the C-Chain is meant to capture. And it's more people buying and using AVAX. Let them do their thing, who cares

>>28973299
Good catch.
Zero Exchange is the first DEX to support three blockchains: trading will be possible across Etehereum, Avalanche and Polkadot.

>>28973586
Not sure anon, try to keep updated w/ Avalanche's twitter. You could even ask em directly, they reply to basically everything.

>>28973299
> DOT

1000 validator limit.
1.6M DOTs required to become a validator.

>>28973815
So here’s the thing.
AVAXbros aren’t fudding Zero Exchange. That presumes everyone in the Avalanche community isn’t in anyway associated with Zero Exchange.
Half of the community is vested in Zero Exchange, while some are vested in both.
What’s really at issue here, aside from butt-hurt Pangolin devs, who couldn’t deliver, is that some people think they can control an open source community. It really is the most extraordinary behaviour.
It looks pathetic to cryptofags on the outside.

Pangolin chads ww@?
>tfw 1678% APY

>>28973208
No, still can't fucking deposit.
>>28972352
Stable because some of us can't sell and others are locked staking.
>>28972619
Have you actually read that? blocks that created an increase in circulating supply were accepted by more than half the chain.. that's as unsafe as a blockchain can get

>>28975144
i hope you can sell shortly anon
your AVAX will be on better hands
and you'll probably become this retard (pic related)

>>28975144
Really dude, again?

>>28971607
brow id anon checks out

>>28977113
muh immutable contracts

muh roll backs

muh dubs

muh im better than vitalik cope

>>28977192

>>28977264
See this is what happens when Pangolin devs think it is ok to fud Zero Exchange. You add legitimacy to the retards who want to fud AVAX the platform.

>>28977488
Imagine being unable to withdraw btc or eth oh wait that only happens on eth killers like avax lol

What does this mean???

>>28978277
what does immutable mean when you cause pause the whole network cope

centralized piece of shit roach turk scam

>>28975144
>blocks that created an increase in circulating supply were accepted by more than half the chain.. that's as unsafe as a blockchain can get

Literally happened to Bitcoin you total faggot

>>28977113
>>28977192
>>28977264
>>28978277
>>28978795

Well this doesn't seem like paid and organised FUD, surely

>>28971607
double spend

literally the comfiest hold ever

if you spent 30 minutes reading into the tech it'd be obvious.

>>28972619
>state validation error
oo this is a new cope. haven't seen this one before kek

Emin Gün Sirer:
>Cornell CS Prof who created the first POW protocol ever in 2003
>Co Director of IC3 which is 180+ researchers and 6 Unis
>EGS shills Link & is in close partnership with the Chainlink team
>Vitalik endorses EGS & already acknowledged Avalanche is a Breakthrough on par with BTC
>like Sergey EGS toured around the world for years educating People about decentralization

Avalanche protocol:
>The third consensus protocol after Nakamotos PoW and Classical
>basically consensus is reached by probabilistic sampling thousands of independent nodes over multiple rounds
>This is not repackaged shit with minimal tinkering here and there its a completely new type of Consensus Protocol
>4500+ REAL TPS (no bullshit tricks, batching, or centralized L2)
>it can scale to MILLIONS of Validators while maintaining high tps & sub second finality
>more decentralized than everything else
>running a Node is easy & hardware requirements are low
>Resists 51% attacks (would need 80%)

Tokenomics & Profit:
>hardcapped
>AVAX needed for staking & delegating
>needed to participate in governance of the network
>fees are burned & is burned when Subnets, Blockchains or other assets are created
>currently 10% APY
>only requirement to receive the rewards is 60% node uptime
>node costs ca. 20 bucks a month on a VPS

Subnetworks:
>sub networks can be launched on Avalanche with near infinite customization
>plug in and use the Avalanche Consensus for your already existing Blockchain so you dont have to build your own (like with decentralized oracles)
>Chainlink already moving to Avalanche
>AVAX node may be a member of many subnets & earn rewards from them!

Full EVM support:
>All ETH infrastructure can work on AVAX out of the box
>athereum.avax.network/
>Big picture: in no time the best parts of the entire crypto ecosystem can be mirrored on Avalanche and giving it all the TPS, scalability, speed and interoperability that it needs for the next stage

FUCK ETHEREUM
FUCK NOVAXERS
FUCK ZERO SCAMMERS

>>28979759
"Cope" and "kek" is a cope for retards who are too rhetorically incompetent to make a coherent point. Avalanche is technologically superior. Accept it

>>28972619
>difference between a double-spend and a state validation error
>>28979470
>Literally happened to Bitcoin

>>28980547

Literally no argument, nice try paid centralised chinkcoin binance cz henchman

>>28980547
Do you noobs understand that a double spend would not inflate Bitcoin's supply? If an attacker has control over 51% of the network do you think they can just mint infinite coins? is that what you think that's what a double spend is?
It honestly wouldn't surprise me that that's your understanding of it, seeing as the influx of newfags whose first exposure to crypto is ERC20 uniswap shitcoins.

Pretty comfy holding AVAX and farming png right now. Once btc hits 65k I’ll close my long and buy another 3000 AVAX

>>28981338
I like this pepe, did you make it?

>>28977113
>>28977192
>>28977264
>>28978277
>>28978795
(You)

>>28971607

Breached 100MM in liquidity on Pangolin now. Some whale just dumped 5MM worth into the WAVAX/USDT pool.

>>28981093
We have seen one dude hav 63AVAX then he spent 63AVAX to buy 10WETH and then staked 63AVAX.
How is that a double spend?

>>28981565
Nope stole it from some anon a few weeks ago

>>28982787
Because it isn't one. In bitcoin, how a double spend works, is you pay using "the same coins", no new coins are added to the system, if a double spend is possible an attacker can trick someone into accepting a transaction that won't be included in the longest chain. This may seem less serious but it isn't, it's the main thing a Nakamoto consensus is supposed to "solve", as is the goal of any other distributed consensus algorithm. This is what double-spend literally means. Here the user received new coins, which he was able to spend. Yes, the network "double minted" the coins, to use your stupid forced meme. This may seem worse but it isn't, because if the network was vulnerable to a double spend that would indicate some design failure with Avalanche consensus, on the other hand, inflation bugs are easy to fix, requiring in the worst case scenario a hard fork.

hey is there a way to check how much my ava/png pool is getting me? or do i have to unstake to see?

>>28984065
Pretty sure you have to unstake, but the accounts tab on the Pangolin analytics site might give that info. I can’t get it to work for my account. Is it broken for everyone else?

>>28984065
>>28984146
I might have misunderstood your question. Are you asking how can you see how much PNG you’ve earned? You need to go to the PNG tab, click Manage on your pool, and deposit your liquidity tokens. Then you can watch the png accrue.

>>28983828
I cant believe you fell for my simple bait fren.

> design failure with Avalanche consensus

Well the network stalling for +24h was the consensus failure. Liveness guarantee not fulfilled. Anyone can make a consensus mechanism which stalls from time to time due to various bugs, see for example IOTA. But bitcoin doesnt give a fuck if chain forks, damn straight.

Anyhow, not a total devastating failure for AVAX. This can be salvaged, ava-labs must ASAP hire the guy who wanted to make more various node implementations.

Is there anything that Polkadot does that Avax doesn't?

Why would anyone buy DOT instead of Avax?

>>28984235
>Are you asking how can you see how much PNG you’ve earned?
yes that's it. i have gone to the manage section but it's not showing me my tally, just shows me my totals. but due to IL the totals are shifting all the time and not unidirectionally

>>28972691
>says seething obese 30 year old in his moms basememt

>>28984618
Have you deposited your Pool token into the Png pool?

>>28975144
binance deposit. how about convert to usdt via pangolin (fuck that zero shill anon) then send to binance wallet as usdt or whatever? what is the cost for aeb to eth network?

>>28984618
Have you deposited your liquidity tokens to the corresponding pool? It’s not totally intuitive. I first thought you could just add liquidity to a pair and then you’d be earning PNG but there’s the second step of depositing your liquidity tokens to the pair on the PNG tab. Once you do that, the PNG counter on the top of the page will start showing your earnings

>enough liquidity added to lose 500 PNG/week from yesterday

>>28984513
DOT has better marketing. AVAX only has /biz/ shills.
99% of biz doesnt even know that DOT has 1000 max validators and barrier to entry in their permissioned blockchain is in tens of millions of dollars.

>>28984513

>>28985348
I know anon... I feel you. I wish these fuckers gave us some more time to farm PNG.

who destroyed the sushi pool show yourself, 78k png/280k avax what is this

>>28973425
EXPONENTIAL

>>28985669
double spends : avax ()

>>28986260
Pangolin volume is going to be an order of magnitude higher than on eth dexes because fees are negligible. Maybe the fees we earn will actually be material, in addition to png

>>28984713
>>28984815
hahaaa holy shit guys that was it. thanks dudes. avabros we are gonna make it

just look at this bros

look at it

https://cchain.explorer.avax.network/

https://ghostbin.co/paste/4zk37

Sold my Avax lads, was only a 30 stacklet. Got in at $16 so made a profit. I plan on getting back in after the unlock in to weeks.
My poorfolio wasn't reacting well to daily 5% losses. The FUD wasn't bothering me, but it was messing with any potential gains I could have made.

>>28987171
It's magnificent

>>28987208
as long as you're planning to buy again, then np anon, you're gonna make it
>>28985373
>"AVAX only has /biz/ shills! !!"
>Said the DOT shill
topkek

>>28987618
did you read his post? he is not shilling DOT lol

>>28987712
Somebody post the Gavin wood pedo pasta for me, I’m not on my home pc

Why is it bleeding so hard bros? I thought the tech is next level. Tempted to sell my 250 I got at 15.

>>28972192
>THERE ARE SO MANY AVAX SHILLS!
>Posts pic of dozens FUDing, without a single pro-AVAX post in sight
Reminder, pic related is who FUDs AVAX.

>>28986260
STOP ADDING FUCKING LIQUIDITY YOU FAGGOTS YOU'RE RUINING MY YIELDS

I USED TO GET 450 PNG A WEEK AND NOW I'M DOWN TO 107 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

https://info.pangolin.exchange/#/home

$100m liquidity!

>I chose to stake instead of waiting for pangolin to open up for farming

bros how/when does the png/avax ratio for each pool become updated : :)

>>28981093
Hi Pennywise

>>28988707
Seems like they update the ratios each morning based on how much liquidity is in each one. Hopefully they implement a system to automatically adjust png/pair every hour or something

>>28971607
Can someone explain the Pangolin thing to me? I'm all in on AVAX but would like to try this out too

>>28988929
Uniswap clone. LPs earn governance token rewards

$PNG will absolutely be next moon coin. 50x from here easily

>>28988967
I should say I know what it is, more so how to provide liquidity and make money from it. How much AVAX you pumped into it, etc?

>>28988822
thanks anon. does anyone happen to know the exact time and timezone? :)

>>28987171
Magnificent

>>28987171
Wow. Storage on this bitch is going to get crazy

>>28989291
As far as I know they're adding some shit in the next update to fix that. Archival nodes or pruning or epochs or something like that.

>>28989027
The ratios are quickly getting worse and worse, on the upside the PNG price is rising.
The sooner you get in the better.

>>28989065
No but I saw it happen live at like 10 am pacific five or take an hour or 2
>>28989027
You have to supply equal amounts of both tokens in a pair. For example I am supplying $X worth of link and $X worth of AVAX to the link-AVAX pool. Just go to the pangolin exchange and read the tutorial, it takes 5 minutes and will teach you everything. Upu may want to send ERC 20 assets into AVAX using the AVAX ethereum bridge. Just read all the tutorials for everything, it’s all explained. Dyor

>>28988094
It's retarded, AVAX never was stronger as a network (Transaction volume and Pangolin liquidity are through the roof rightnow) but it doesn't reflect on price.

It makes me sick how underpriced AVAX is.

>>28989877
We pumped hard, then had a somewhat major bug and binance fuckery on top of the expected pullback. Give it time, btc is going to stomp alts and then once it starts crabbing again AVAX will moon again. The next 2 weeks are a great accooooomulation opportunity.

Guys I think I have found a very promising coin. It has a low market cap and it is still undiscovered, DeFiat. DONT SLEEP ON THIS GEM!!
Please do your own research and don't trust me this easily. But do your own research and earn some easy money. Dont be a sleeping sheep, but be the smart one. https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/defiat

>>28990323
fuck off you retard

>tfw i didn't know you had to add the LP to the png pool.
a week lost... a week of lost gains bros. but thankfully you guys helped me. dw im not diluting the pools. im getting like 12 png a week but idc. im literally never selling my avax lmao. im a burger so its a pain in the ass to get for me. i know once burgers can buy this in the next 6 months it is going to 450

>>28989458
>>28989531
Based thanks, any recommendations for an amount of AVAX to supply? So like 300 total and the pair split 150 each? Is there a recommended amount to make it worth it?

>>28990469
Damn dude that’s rough. I made the same mistake but thankfully I realized that I wasn’t accruing any PNG after half an hour and then I went and read the pangolin tutorial.

i keep trying to withdraw my vaxxies to stake from OkCoin and it keeps limiting it saying some assets haven't been credited wtf is this piece of shit exchange cant wait to never use this shit again

what do frens

>>28990552
Put in whatever you feel like, the rate is fixed. Put in more, get more PNG

so are we all doing LINK/AVAX here?

>>28990552
Just depends how much money you have and how risk averse you are. lPs face impermenant loss and there’s the tiny risk of pangolin having a bug and pools getting exploited or something.
Me? I’m farming with almost my entire AVAX stack, but it’s only like 25% of my link stack (I’m in the AVAX-link pool mostly). All the png I earn goes into the png-AVAX pool. PNG rewards right now should far outstrip any impermanent loss so I recommend farming and holding as many as you can.

>>28990552
Your reward is proportional to the amount of liquidity that is yours in the pool. More is better. As more and more people provide liquidity the amount goes down, hence the sooner you join the higher the return.
Most of my AVAX is staked, but my 20 AVAX (now 25 png/10 avax) gives 6 png/week + cut of the fees.

>>28990738
it gave the best ratio when I checked yesterday, so yes

>>28990696
>>28990822
>>28990800
ILY guys

>>28990593
i was used to just uniswap Lp and didn't even think about it until i checked it today. sucks but back on track now

>>28990921
I love you too anon. The one main risk with using the avalanche network is that you will absolutely hate it if you ever have to use ethereum again. I cannot imagine paying $150 in gas to take a loan on Aave, or waiting 10 minutes for a transaction to go through again. Avalanche is like driving a sports car for the first time after a lifetime of getting around on a 100 pound bicycle

>>28991264
I'm actually all in on Avalanche and never touched Ethereum before. Went from Bitcoin to Avalanche. I used Uniswap the other week for some shitcoins and my god the gas and failed transactions and wait times.
Having avoided Ethereum and being new to Avalanche made me objectively realise which seems like the future and which was a just a nice experiment.

If AVAX's tech were truly as supreme as the shills ITT are saying they would be unironically FUDing hard to get the price down
Adoption is inevitable

>>28992550
It's cheap af right now anon.

>>28992357
They just need to add a bunch of tokens now. Basically everything on Pangolin is on Coinbase.

>>28992357
>btc to AVAX
Honestly that’s pretty fucking based. Eth was groundbreaking shit in 2016 but now it’s just broken shit.
>>28992550
That’s literally what’s happening. Same thing with the link demoralization threads. Feels unbelievably comfy that I bought link at 25 cents and avax at $3. Not my whole stacks but I did buy lots of each at those prices.

>>28993955
Shill trying to unload bags

>>28993955
Yeah I had loosely followed ETH all these years but Avalanche proposing a new consensus for the first time since Nakamoto really peaked my initial interest last year.

>>28994062
>tfw I could feel the euphoria when we hit $55 and knew it was the top but I held anyway because I wanted to farm pangolins
You literally couldn’t be more wrong.