/biz/ - Business & Finance

How is this different from Yearn?
Platforms like Yearn, for example, aggregate yield across a predefined number of platforms. We asked, “What if a platform was similarly designed to aggregate across various strategies?” New and improved strategies could be deployed over time and integrated into the existing stack, while old and non-competitive alternatives can be phased out.

Vesper’s modular approach and multi-pool capability allow for better and safer upgradeability of pools. As existing strategies become overplayed, newer, higher-yield alternatives can be gradually integrated into the existing pool with only a percentage of users’ funds being deployed in the new strategy. Eventually the new strategy will overtake the original strategy altogether after it has proven itself in the new pool and performing better than its predecessor. (This is akin to how Amazon rolls out updates to its website, surfacing them to an ever-larger percentage of users on the way to 100%.) These strategies can be built out over time and integrate with platforms that don’t yet exist.
In this model, the end user funds are redeployed automatically. This capability helps support a truly “set-and-forget” experience that is as sustainable as possible.

The core values of Vesper are Longevity, Quality, Trust and Community. This is YFI done right. No "testing in prod" spaghetti code that gets exploited every second week.

What about the Team?

Like I said, Vesper is founded by one of the original bitcoin developers Jeff Garzik. If you don't know who that is then holy shit you are a fucking newfag. Well, you can read a short article about him here
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-08/bitcoin-pioneer-who-gave-away-over-100-million-has-no-regrets

They also have Qiao Wang, one of the smartest and most influental people on CT as their strategic advisor. Some of their strategic partners and investors include Robert Leshner from Compound, Ryan Selkis from Messari, HCM Captial = VC subsidiary of Foxconn and many more. Vesper has by far the strongest team and best backers of all projects in its category.

What about the Tokenomics?
This one actually has a governance token that is not worthless, i.e. it gives you back 95% of revenue. Vesper’s revenue structure keeps its community at the center. With Vesper, users retain more of their accumulated asset growth and the revenue generated goes to the betterment of the community. 95% of fees collected buy back VSP off of Uniswap, with the other 5% retained by the developer. (Today that developer is the Vesper team — later, Vesper contributors who develop pools)

The current circulating supply is around 1 million
The maximum supply is 10 million
The current market cap is 30 million
You can check out detailed tokenomics here:
https://medium.com/vesperfinance/vespers-tokenomics-an-overview-f342ae5b613f

Let's look at some competitors
YFI = 1.5B market cap (50X)
FARM = 183M market cap (6X)
APY.Finance = 73M market cap with a not nearly as good a team and not even an alpha release yet fucking lmao (2.5X)


THIS IS YFI DONE BY ACTUAL PROFESSIONALS
GET IN LATER TODAY AFTER THE AIRDROP OR FOREVER REGRET MISSING OUT

HCM Capital = Foxconn

So is this one of those coins that's actually worth buying or are you just supposed to mine it and dump on people?

Why spoonfeed these fucking retards? Pearls before swine

>>28964632
I think you should be able to determine that from my effortposting anon

What I can tell you, I wont sell a single one before this is bigger than YFI

>>28963842
appreciate you mentioning the airdrop, was thinking about hopping in too early

>>28964809
yes my purpose is not to fuck anyone over
however, it may not dump as much as we expect because I believe most of the beta testers will be long term holders

bumping for biztards
first you anons complain that nothing good is shilled here / or only shilled after it has pumped

Now I am telling you about something that just launched a few hours ago and has massive potential and you just ignore it....

>>28964731
Lol anon, jeets put forward crazy effort at times. That being said, yes it does all seem very promising. Thanks for your input.

>>28964809
>>28964908
I think I'll wait until the airdrop then scoop up at least 100.

its up from $3 so a 10x already you really think its worth jumping in?

>>28963842
what are your ulterior motives?

>>28965261
I bought immediately at launch and still the best price I could get was about $14
nobody except the strategic partners got to buy at $3 (except for maybe one bot that dumped within minutes)

>>28965260
true, but I mean just check out the team and the partners and you (should) see right away this is not pajeet rug

>>28965239
i created the first thread, you put some great info in this one. grats anon you're gonna make it

>>28965398
nothing, I did get a bag for myself at $14 like I said but for once I thought I would tell biz right after
I will be buying more after the airdrop too

>>28965491
WAGMI fren
this is my make it coin

How do I buy it?

>>28965683
Uniswap & Sushiswap currently
With the backing they have I am expecting tier 1 CEX listings very soon

>>28965830
Cool. I'll chuck in an ETH. Is the airdrop expected to happen today? Guess it's better to wait a while

>>28966026
it should be in a couple of hours yes

>>28965477
No thats incorrect you could have farmed it in the incentivized beta which is why theres over 900 holders already. I really don't know if i should go all in now or wait until the airdrop happens

>>28966312
yeah but I meant you could not buy it for the listing price

>>28966312
>I really don't know if i should go all in now or wait until the airdrop happens
If I were you I would just slowly average in, a little bit now and then more after the airdrop if it dips

In the long term it wont matter much, this will be over $100 soon anyway

I checked some of the whale wallets that were farming and many of them have also bought tokens now before the airdrop

New friend here.

If I buy this in uniswap to my metamask, can I send it to binance?

>>28967836
welcome fren
you cannot send it to binance yet because they have not yet listed it
as soon as they do list it, then you can send it there just like any other erc-20 token

>>28967948
0x103cc17C2B1586e5Cd9BaD308690bCd0BBe54D5e

Is this the contract address? I assume it's the one linked in the ETH pool

>>28966549
okay just bought 100, i think this could go to thousands long term

>>28968146
No it is not
always take the contract address either directly from the project telegram / discord or form coingecko

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/vesper-finance

>>28968261
Yeah I think it will go to top 30 for sure

Sorry to be a bother, but when is the airdrop happening? In about an hour?

>>28968762
Yeah something like that, I will update here when I know

Kek, their app is down from all the traffic.

How do I buy lands. Whats the ticker on UNI\Sushi. I don't wanna send my eth to a scam.

Also, haven't bought shitcoins from DEXs in a few months now - how are the gas fees like? How much should I expect to fart out in gas for my 0.5 eth buy

this is the one /biz/

>>28963842
Unfederalreserve seems like a better project and is working with oasis network

>>28969049
I read on Twitter that the airdrop isn't happening until they hit $100. Is that true?

>>28970460
No that is not true, they said in the discord that they are focusing on fixing the website and keeping the pool liquidity healthy before messing with the airdrop

All of you worrying about short term price action on this one... two words.

JEFF GARZIK

This will go top 50 if not top 25

Bought some. This is a good project you can tell. The airdrop is worrisome and itll probably dump when it happens, however, the sushi onsen program will ensure a LOT of locked up Vesper when it goes live.

This is a good one guys.

>>28970613
Thanks. Do you know how big the airdrop will be?

>>28971045
450k tokens so at $30 per token that would be 13,5million dollars

is this a scam or not? can anyone verify?

>>28969275
this time it is unironically a good thing kek

>>28969824
ticker is VSP, take the contract address from Coingecko

>>28970220
I don't know what unfederalreserve is but I can tell you it doesn't have nearly the same kind of talent and connections behind it that Vesper has

>>28970460
Not true

>>28970982
exactly
>>28971001
the people that were farming had their funds locked for 3 months and this was really under the radar so I don't think too many of them will dump

>>28971045
450k VSP in total

I should be getting some airdropped tokens. Not going to sell this at this price tho.

>>28971491
come on man just check out the founder ffs
check out the investors
if you really can't tell from that alone then you must be either very new or not really at all aware of the crypto industry

anons, help a retard out. what gas limits\settings should I set on my metamask so I don't get gigakiked

>>28971901
99% of the time you won't need to touch the limit but the gas price you can set somewhere between average to high if you look from here
https://etherscan.io/gastracker

I usually put it a bit higher than "high" setting if I want it to go through quickly, or somewhere between average to high if I'm fine with waiting longer

bought a little bag, not sure how I feel about this. Let's hope it does enter top 50

found this project a few days ago. i deposited into the vETH pool, but noticed there is a vBetaETH pool token as well. do i still get an airdrop from vETH?

uhhh
https://twitter.com/1inchExchange/status/1362119935930101766

>>28972259
good job anon
>>28972807
>i deposited into the vETH pool, but noticed there is a vBetaETH pool token as well. do i still get an airdrop from vETH?
yes, you get the airdrop from the vETH pool but not from the vBetaETH. You can leave your ETH in the pool and it will continue to accrue VSP for you even after the beta if I understood correctly

>>28973092
Holy shit no wonder it pumped to $40 just now

>>28973092
what does that mean, anon

>>28973451
>You can leave your ETH in the pool and it will continue to accrue VSP for you even after the beta if I understood correctly

Thats correct, looking at rewards on their dev site right now. thanks anon

>>28973485
1inch exchange have launched a VSP pool with insanely good rewards, whales are already flocking to this coin its easy to see if you check the etherscan and see all the huge orders

500% ? Woah.

Damn, I should have bought instead of waiting. Didnt think it would explode to 40 like that.

>>28963842
Anon you've changed my life

What's the plan here? Do we sell and buy back later or just hold?

>>28973965
if it's trending #1 on dextools and hasn't pumped yet it's an instant buy

>>28973792
yeah, for once biz had a chance to know about something before many of the whales

>>28973965
I didn't expect that either... I thought it was going to crab and then dump a little bit after the airdrop

>>28974028
I'm really happy to hear that fren

>>28974030
I think I am still going to wait until after the airdrop to put the rest of my buys in, but not selling anything. For those that have not yet bought I think DCA is the way to go if you have enough capital (if you can do this without gas fees eating a significant portion of your stack)

>$80 gas
motherfucker

>>28974293
i love you anon stay based, i feel this project will yield great rewards

>>28974293
when's airdrop habbening

>>28963842
>NOTE!!! THERE WILL BE TOKENS AIRDROPPED TO BETA TESTERS IN A FEW HOURS, PRICE MIGHT FALL SO IF YOU BUY NOW YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. MAY BE BETTER TO WAIT

Do you know when this will be done fren?

Thanks for this, holding strong

This will go to $500 minimum imo.

>>28974889
>>28974903
will still take several hours it seems
https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/1362129664785924100

i want to buy this but i haven't bought shitcoins in a minute
how do i minimize gas fees? i'm NOT paying $80 for a transaction no matter how much i'm buying. what's the best uniswap alternative?

>>28974477
wagmi

>>28975233
the alternative is not buying, fren

>>28975141
the more TVL that it will attract the more buying pressure on VSP, since 95% of the performance / withdrawal fees from the pools will be used to market buy VSP. So yes, I think $500 is certainly possible

>>28975233
There is not really any way to avoid the gas fees before they get an exchange listing.

>>28974293
I only have a tiny 130 stack but if this is going where I feel it will then it'll be well worth it.
I don't expect to make it or anything, but even 50K is more than worth it.

So the app is down probably from too much traffic. Question. If I stake in the 1INCH-Vesper pool then I can yield farm Vesper as well staking the LP tokens on their platform? Thanks

>>28975470
I believe you will have at least 50k before this bullrun is over

>>28975943
>If I stake in the 1INCH-Vesper pool then I can yield farm Vesper as well staking the LP tokens on their platform
I think for this pool you will actually be receiving 1INCH as rewards but I'm not 100% sure, double check the 1inch announcement

>>28975947
I hope so anon. I'll put that in investments if it works out.

>>28976194
good choice anon
btw it will also be possible later to put the VSP in their vVSP pool to farm even more VSP

>>28975947
I always hold too long until I'm bogged. Wish I knew the exit price.

>>28976193

Oh so I'm staking the 1INCH-Vesper LP tokens on the 1INCH platform and not the Vesper platform for more 1INCH? So what can you do with the Vesper token once the APR from that pool dies off? Can you stake it on their platform for anything?

>11% of tokens were sold in the ICO for 2.5usd each token

oof

>>28976348
just take profits on the way up

>>28976345
I'm kinda dumb so I'm not sure how that works, but I might give it a try if things look reliable when it's usable.
Just want to reach a point financially where my parents aren't worrying about my stupid ass, they care too much and I just want them to be able to relax in retirement. They've already done enough for me.

>>28976502
>>11% of tokens were sold in the ICO for 2.5usd each token

Is that 11% of the total supply as in over 1MM tokens or of the current circulating supply?

>>28976345
>btw it will also be possible later to put the VSP in their vVSP pool to farm even more VSP

This is what I wanted to know thanks. Do we know when this goes live?

>>28976784
>Is that 11% of the total supply as in over 1MM tokens

yes
https://icodrops.com/vesper-finance/

>>28976348
just follow this advice >>28976515

>>28976493
that is how I understood it yes
>So what can you do with the Vesper token once the APR from that pool dies off? Can you stake it on their platform for anything?
you will be able to stake them in the vVSP pool on their own platform

>>28976502
>11% of tokens were sold in the ICO for 2.5usd each token
there was no ICO. They raised $2.5m total from their strategic partners, so yes they got tokens for $2.5
but you cannot expect to get tokens at the same price as the people mentioned here>>28964291

>>28976924
>there was no ICO.

call it what you want. fact is, 11% of the tokens were given to whales at a ridiculously low price.

>>28976754
>I'm kinda dumb
no you are not, you are here on biz and you were able to navigate through a sea of shit and pajeet scams to find the legit project. Don't underestimate yourself. You just need more experience and you will be able to understand all that. They have a really easy and intuitive UI on their platform so you can just get familiar with it later

>>28976843
should be today

>>28977148
>call it what you want. fact is, 11% of the tokens were given to whales at a ridiculously low price.
FYI they listed the token at the exact same price, $2.5, but thanks to the fucking faggots with their frontrunner bots that ruin every uniswap listing, it literally spiked to $15 within a few seconds after liquidity was added.

And it is not just any random "whales", these are among the most important and influential people in crypto today, so it doesn't bother me at all that they hold tokens that they got for cheap.

>>28977148
GRT was sold at 0.03 in private sell. Look at it now (not even 3 months later)

>>28977373
Thanks dude, I'll try to figure it out. What are the mechanics behind farming to get more VSP? Like how does it generate that?

>>28977373
>FYI they listed the token at the exact same price, $2.5, but thanks to the fucking faggots with their frontrunner bots that ruin every uniswap listing, it literally spiked to $15 within a few seconds after liquidity was added.
>And it is not just any random "whales", these are among the most important and influential people in crypto today, so it doesn't bother me at all that they hold tokens that they got for cheap.

The price according to DEX tools hit $75 at one point in the first hour of listing but the volume was insanely low almost no one bought or sold up to that point. Most volume has been between 12-28 otherwise.

>>28977373
Do you have a good buy in price in mind? Thinking of switching over my 500k Reef to this.

>>28977711
it market buys VSP using the performance and withdrawal fees of the other pools and then distributes the bought VSP to those who are farming in the vVSP pool

>>28977711
you can read more about it here
https://medium.com/vesperfinance/inside-the-vesper-revenue-model-898dad1469dc

>>28978049
yeah it spiked really high, but that is all launches these days because of the fucking bots
makes it pretty risky to buy during the first minutes

>>28978268
I hope I'd get some more buys in under $25, all depends on if / how much of the airdropped tokens will be sold

>>28966114
Where is info on the airdrop? What are requirements?

>>28979871
the airdrop is for the beta testers, you can't participate in that anymore but you can still receive rewards by simply depositing in their vUSDC, vETH or vWBTC pools

i bought the top again didn't i

>>28980142
Thanks anon. Kinda bummed its over $30 already. Their medium page said $2.5 but now its shot up immediately. Not really sure its worth buying now.

>>28963842
What's with the 10 million total supply? How is that released? It's already 300 mil fully diluted.

>>28980142
How do people get into these betas n stuff? Where do you hear about these up and coming coins?

>>28980260
The chart is young yet, give it some time.

>>28980142
What are the rewards like?

Missed this at $15 because I was worried the airdrop was about to happen and I had to go out, then it was delayed and it went to $40..motherfuck. Will try and scoop some after the airdrop dump

>>28980260
only if all markets crash 80% was this the top

>>28980424
70% will be circulating at the end of year 1, but that might as well be forever in crypto so it doesn't really matter (in my opinion)

>>28980864
70 percent meaning 7,000,000?

>>28980864
>70% will be circulating at the end of year 1
Ok so it's another farming shitcoin that will continue to dump until all tokens are released. I'll buy under $10. Thanks OP

>>28980864
whats the unlock schedule?? cant find it on their website

>>28981250
>their
The above qualitatively explains the shape and pace of emissions. Though Vesper is not committing to a concrete schedule for the next twelve months, here is what VSP emissions look like at launch and in the first weeks to follow:
At launch, 450,000 VSP are airdropped to beta participants. 291,667 VSP is airdropped to the team, advisors, and partners at the same time. 300,000 VSP is posted as initial liquidity to SushiSwap and 200,000 VSP is posted as liquidity to Uniswap.
In total, 1,241,667 VSP are circulating at launch — 12.42% of total supply.
Through the first month, each of the three primary holding pools have a linear drip of 125,000 VSP each — 375,000 total.
Liquidity Providers receive a drip of 185,000 VSP for the first month. 60% of these rewards go to SushiSwap, and 40% to Uniswap (plus a small amount to Loopring). This is weighted towards the first weeks:
Week One: 74,000
Week Two: 55,500
Week Three: 37,000
Week Four: 18,500
Team, advisors, and partners have streaming unlock at 1/12 of allocation (291,667 VSP) each month.
Circulating supply will look approximately as follows:
Day 0: 1,241,667 VSP (12.42% of total supply)
Day 7: 1,482,334 VSP (14.82%)
Day 14: 1,704,501 VSP (17.05%)
Day 21: 1,908,168 VSP (19.08%)
Day 28: 2,093,335 VSP (20.93%)
Anticipate roughly 70–80% of VSP total supply to be circulating after the first year. At this time, the VSP community can also vote to change the VSP supply. The minting function is time locked and unavailable within the first 12 months of launch, locking the supply at 10 million VSP for at least the first year

>>28981403
Ah... I should've waited.
Damnit

>>28981004
yes

>>28981145
that's your choice
I mean just take a look at all the other farming coins like UNI, SUSHI, 1inch
I'm pretty sure they have outperformed whatever shitcoin you are holding

>>28981680
Can I stake VSP anywhere apart from the liquidity pools?

ok the team is too good for it to fail and it was in developement since 2019

bought 3eth worth and maybe will buy more after dip

thanks op

>>28981793
1inch has a pool too
probably more will be added, need to give it some time it is only a few hours old

>>28981904
that was my reasoning as well
investing in good teams has rarely failed in crypto

>>28981403

Thanks for the info. I'll wait till after the airdrop, fuck it if I miss it I miss it, plenty other shit to play

is 1m max supply or is it 900k, dextools says 900k. i've gotten burned way too many times buying tokens in the first hour. going to wait atleast 2-3 days.

ok nvm read thread a bit more. So what is the strat with these farming coins? do i buy the token or do i provide liq and farm the token in other shit it pops up in? crvDao type tokens make no sense to me.

I think I'll just look away from the charts for a while.

>>28982596
How high can farming tokens realistically rise?

>>28982596
my strat is this
1) buy VSP and stake it in vVSP pool to earn more VSP
2) deposit USDC in the vUSDC pool to earn interest + VSP

39.1 million USD TVL locked in 1 day is quite impressive https://defipulse.com/vesper

>>28982895
I have no clue, they literally have infinite supply, and most of the ones that are big right now have suffered major hacks, which puts me off, but some of them do really well like crvDao.

>>28982895
almost all of the top DeFi coins are or have been farming tokens at some point
UNI, SUSHI, 1INCH, YFI, COMP etc.

>>28983137
>and most of the ones that are big right now have suffered major hacks, which puts me off
this is supposed to be YFI without the constant exploits. This team is much more careful and thorough with these things. the beta has been running for over 2 months before launch with no problems

>>28983137
it doesn't have infinite supply

>>28983102
okay never mind its actually 10.92 USD value locked since today but that's still pretty good

Can't believe just paid 80 eur in fees to buy this

>>28983148
Then isn't it at an ATH right now?

>>28983516
ath was like $43 a couple of hours ago

>>28983513
I paid almost $1000 in total in fees already today...

>>28983516
and a fucking garzik

>>28983516
Anon read the chart.

>>28983704
Wow! How much do you hold?

alright I aped in

>>28983704

Should I all in on this?

>>28983743
>Wow! How much do you hold?
got myself a top 100 stack
the reason I paid so much in fees was because I tried to be quicker than the bots but quickly learned it is impossible kek

>>28984093
I guess the bots are just too fast.
Well anon I will hope this works out. I moved my stack from DFT to this. I'll look away from the charts for a few days and see where we are.

>>28983516
think about it like this, many of the top 50 even top 20 whales bought in at $20-$30 dollars like 4-5 hours ago here is the 16th largest wallet holding $232,448.49 worth of Vesper who bought in at $22 i honestly doubt the airdrop would make it dip below $20-25

https://etherscan.io/token/0x1b40183efb4dd766f11bda7a7c3ad8982e998421?a=0xefdb34fc7fbe029b6aec1e62ff2c16f4189b2d58

>>28984093
thank you fren

I hate keeping this shit in metamask though. What do you anons recommend?

>>28984489
what is wrong with metamask? just don't click on porn popups

>>28963842
holy shit I wish I found this sooner, don't really care about the airdrop I'm in, this shit going to neptune

>>28984251
>I guess the bots are just too fast.
they are, never buying a listing as soon as liquidity is added again, best to wait a few minutes for the bots to dump
>Well anon I will hope this works out. I moved my stack from DFT to this. I'll look away from the charts for a few days and see where we are.
me too anon, I have a significant part of my portfolio in this so I hope this is the one that takes me to "made it" level

>>28984319
that's what I thought too, and I also saw that many of the top whales were also farming the beta, meaning that even though they will receive large airdrops they still bought more

>>28984489
hardware wallets are safest, I'd avoid ledger considering how much they have fucked up in the past

>>28985141
>holy shit I wish I found this sooner
don't we all, I wish I had found it as soon as beta opened so I could have farmed a nice stack for myself

>>28971525
>I don't know what unfederalreserve is but I can tell you it doesn't have nearly the same kind of talent and connections behind it that Vesper has

he doesn't know.

Any questions biz?

>>28983704
Thanks

Is it not the case that these kind of airdropped coins dip severely during the first few days before resettling at a lower price in the short term?

Or could the current bull market negate this trend? I think this project looks legit in the long term, but I've bought too many coins at or near ATH in the last few weeks so I'm apprehensive.

There's no yield yet for staking VSP?

>>28986398
if it dips I'll double or triple up
but really will rope if it doubles and I miss out so I got some now.

>>28986182
How can I get the airdrop, I just aped in and I wanna get some some extra

>>28986807
sounds like that's over. it wasn't exactly an airdrop but an early adopter reward. I think you might still be able to get LP rewards??????

>>28986941

>>28981403
>1,241,667 VSP are circulating at launch
Coinmarketcap still shows only 680k, so the airdrop still hasn't happened, right?

Let’s join our GRT chads

Did the airdrop happen? I checked Jeff's twitter and am still unsure

>>28986398
I'm not sure I haven't followed the others that closely during launch, but we are in such a bull market any previous patterns might not apply

>>28986613
I think it is not live yet but should be shortly, check their discord or telegram for updates

>>28986941
> I think you might still be able to get LP rewards??????
yes, LP rewards on Sushi/Uni/Loopring and also farming rewards for depositing assets in their pools

>>28987097
not yet

new site is up, looks pretty fucking good

>>28987225
I think it's just for beta testers and staff

>>28963842
where can you buy this anyway?

>>28987707
vVSP says 0% as rate, I guess that means it isn't usable yet?

>>28988299
Uniswap

>>28988509
can't find it, whats the contract ?

Too early to say what a sui stack/ make it stack is?

Do you guys think the airdrop will make this dump?

>>28988299
>>28988818
All you need to find this info is use Coinmarketcap.

>>28988854
150 suicide stack
1000 make it stack

>>28988866
They're gonna double the token supply in one go. I'd say so.

>>28988866
i have no idea but i bought a little stack, will double down if it dumps. even the main dev tweeted the airdrop would release a bunch of tokens into the supply.

anyone know why the vVSP pool says 0%?

Have the beta members received the airdrop already?

newfag here, can someone tell me what a god damn suicide stack is?

>>28989238
a stack worth a suicide

>>28989238
Enough that when the project inevitably takes off you don’t rope yourself for not buying.

Buy Vespers on YOBIT

>>28989003
ok thanks.. but I cant find it listed on uniswap or suhiswap

>>28989238
In the USA, it's the stack that makes you wish to kill yourself for not buying more.
In the rest of the world, it's the stack you need to live like a king.

i am a retard. can someone explain to me how to put money into this? sorry i am mentally retarded actually

>>28989549
Everywhere else except Canada, Europe, Japan, South Korea.

>>28989485
On Coinmarketcap there's a little icon that shows the token's contract: 0x1b40183efb4dd766f11bda7a7c3ad8982e998421

You need to manually add this token on Uniswap or Sushiswap.

>>28989603
Am europoor. Your suicide stacks usually are my make it stacks.

So this is essentially automated normie version of Harvest?

Celsius won’t give me back my fucking money because apparently every single erc token needs the exact same withdraw address whitelisted individually.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>28963842
Is this only available on Unidex?

How long will this take to moon?

>>28988342
>>28989105
I'm not sure anons I can't keep up with the chats right now moving so fast but I assume it is because they are not accruing rewards yet

OR, it could be that there is no estimate yet as the reward will be coming from the market bought VSP using the platform fees

>>28988866
there is always a risk which is why I added the disclaimer to the OP

>>28989124
not yet no

>>28989485
just copy paste the contract address from coingecko like this anon said>>28989618

it should also be included in the Coingecko token list already that you can choose on Uni / Sushi

>>28989712
Yes, the automated and more professional version. I don't think most normie / TradFi investors would be comfortable putting their money in Harvest kek. The idea here is that you can simply park your funds here and choose your risk tolerance and then the protocol will automatically allocate funds to find the best reward for any given risk level. You would never need to switch between pools as it would all happen automatically

>>28989562
you should really watch a few tutorials on how to use metamask / uniswap etc
step 1) get eth in your metamask wallet
step 2) connect wallet to uniswap or sushiswap
step 3 add VSP contract address to whichever one you decided to use
step 4) swap ETH for VSP

>>28990258
do i have to have ETH to buy this vesper thing i dont have eth i just have link

Guys I think I have found a very promising coin. It has a low market cap and it is still undiscovered, DeFiat.
Please do your own research and don't trust me this easily. But do your own research and earn some easy money. Dont be a sleeping sheep, but be the smart one. https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/defiat

>>28989691
Which Europoor country?

i bought the topm can you pomp please

>>28990440
I'm sorry anon I sold for this token.

>>28990449
Italy.

400k euros and you're set for life if you follow a spartan lifestyle.

>>28990318
you can use link also, no problem it will just route the swap like LINK -> ETH -> VSP.

>>28989712
defipulse also wrote a blogpost on this if you want to read some more
https://defipulse.com/blog/vesper/

>>28963842
Whats the uniswap fees looking like lately..been awhile

trying to buy 0.08 ETH worth. Paying 0.05 in gas. Fuck this shit

>>28990790
poor

>>28990694
80 to 90 dolores

>>28990572
Assuming the suistack is 150, I do not think you could reach that point with a suistack.
At a year end circulating supply of 7 mil, you'd need a 35,000,000,000 Mcap to have 400k Euros with 150 vesper.

Looks pretty good, very credible team with real reputations.
Their founder is helped developed btc in 2010 and their co founder Matthew Rozsak is a billionaire according to wiki.
One question about staking this coin; Do I get VSP's for staking my VSP?
Also, if I am staking my VSPs on their site, does it get stored on their data or do I have to have a metamask/hardware?

>>28990790
yeah that is not going to be worth it at all, in your case it is best to simply wait for a CEX listing, I don't think it will take many days

>>28991071
Days?
Like on Binance?

>>28990884
Yeah, this time I need to buy something like 400 probably.

>>28991071
>wait for a CEX listing
Won't that make the price skyrocket, though?

>>28990996
>Matthew Rozsak is a billionaire according to wiki.
Damn, I didn't even realize he is a billionaire, nice find anon. Here he is together with the other chads
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldelcastillo/2021/01/11/bitcoins-recent-surge-creates-new-billionaires/?sh=5746d9bf416c

>>28991491
>Pictured above: Cameron Winklevoss, Michael Saylor, Matthew Roszak, Vitalik Buterin and Tyler Winklevoss. All but Buterin are now billionaires.

>All but Buterin are now billionaires.
Hope based Vitalik also gets there one day

>>28990996
>One question about staking this coin; Do I get VSP's for staking my VSP?
Yes, 95% of protocol fees are used to market buy VSP and distribute them to stakers in the vVSP pool

>>28991255
>>28991396
I guess, but paying as much in fees as your total investment sounds like a shitty deal

>>28991313
No way I could get that much without putting my sacred LINK stack in.

alright ive got a full question before I go all in:

1) why does the VSP pool has 0% apy?

2) is the APY paid in VSP tokens for every pair? is it how token are distributed? like bao

>>28991941
**a few questions

>>28991941
It's not live yet I think.

>>28991941
>>28963842
I have a few more questions for the OP:

- What percentage of the tokens is held by the team wallets?

- Are those wallets locked or are we risking a rugpull?

>>28963842
Bought in, how do I track it like I would in Binance?

>>28992197
the probability of rugpull is 0% considering the team. Read the documentation on the website for token distibution information

>>28992239
https://www.dextools.io/app/uniswap/pair-explorer/0x6d7b6dad6abed1dfa5eba37a6667ba9dcfd49077

>>28992239
it will be on blocfolio app soon. you can also track your portfolio value on etherscan and you can follow the price movements of the token here:

https://www.dextools.io/app/uniswap/pair-explorer/0x6d7b6dad6abed1dfa5eba37a6667ba9dcfd49077

Is it retarded to buy in at $30+?

>>28991491
holy fuck this guys worth 1.2 billion follow the smart money i guess

>>28992555
Wait for the airdrop dump, fren. It's only a few hours away according to tg.

>>28992555
if you look at the chart it looks like a good entry https://www.dextools.io/app/uniswap/pair-explorer/0x6d7b6dad6abed1dfa5eba37a6667ba9dcfd49077

but then again we dont know how the airdrop will affect the price. thats the risk of buying now

>>28992652
Will the airdrop make the price go 1/2?
Wouldnt the airdrop receivers need to sell for that to happen or what

>>28992304
>the probability of rugpull is 0%
It's a good habit for crypto investors to never consider a rugpull impossible. Just like people who handle guns should never consider them unloaded without checking, and for much the same reason.

But I agree that this team makes a rugpull unlikely.

>>28991941
>1) why does the VSP pool has 0% apy?
check my previous answers for a best guess, I'm not entirely sure however
>2) is the APY paid in VSP tokens for every pair? is it how token are distributed? like bao
In the beta it was only for vUSDC, vETH and vWBTC, I think all pools accrue rewards now that they launched (but double check in discord)

>>28992197
>- Are those wallets locked or are we risking a rugpull?
locked, with 10% unlocked per month. Risk of rugpull is 0%

>>28992764
Price will only drop if people receiving airdrops sell.

>>28992769
why put your reputation on the line when you are already billionaires and multimillionaires with great respect in the crypto space... only to rugpull for a few millions? makes no sense whatsoever
anyway anons, we are all going to make it but now I need a break has been a really long day
I can post a new thread tomorrow with more info

>>28993121
>I can post a new thread tomorrow with more info
Please do. This project is interesting.

>>28990656
im too poor for this shit. wtf do?

thanks op
price predictions on this one?

>>28993240
100mln marketcap is x5 from now and the founder of this is fucking garzik so I would say that it is pretty safe bet

>>28992764
i don't know about 1/2 price but there's always a drop when airdrops are released. it's the same guarantee as the "mainnet dump" rule. the askies were burned by the mainnet dump because they didn't listen to people telling them about the dump. if you're worried, dca in a little now and then later after the aidrop.

I'm too poor to buy this coin. It's already $30, I need to stick to ones that cost less, like couple cents per coin so I can get a good increase.

>>28992652

Post a link to tg?

>>28993438
Anon, go read about market cap.

If the token goes up 100%, it doesn't matter whether you have 20 tokens or .5 tokens, your stack increases the same amount. Cost of the coin is irrelevant.

>>28993438
It doesn't work like that

Supply & market cap dictate price, look at YFI, that coin is sometimes more expensive than BTC

>>28993438
this is bait

>>28993404
>100mln marketcap
Seems really low. AAVE is 6 billions.

If this thing takes off properly, a 100x is not out of the question.

>>28993438
buy a percentage of a coin it is the same thing, you should be focused on percentage gains the number of tokens is meaningless

>>28993438
I'm trying really hard not to interpret your presence as a sell signal, but it's hard.

>>28993725
i agree 100x is not out of the question. One of the founders is a 1,2 billionaire one of 2095 people in the world with that wealth do you really think he'd let his fresh baby faced new crypto project ever fail

>>28992436
Thank you, I feel like the transaction was made an I have no control over the asset. I have the contract as shown on Etherscan, but I'm not sure what to do at this point.

>>28993642
>>28993750
but i cant buy eth im too poor gas is way too much.

>>28993997
stay poor

>>28993725
to be clear, 100mln is x5 FROM NOW

current mc is like $20mln
>https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/vesper-finance

Question: the documents point out that the innovative aspect of this project is that it will allow you to automate your Defi investing. You choose a certain level of risk and your pooled capital is invested only in the projects corresponding to that level of risk.

But who or what decides how risky a certain token is? Is that going to be automated too? How?

I'm hoping it won't be based on some sort of rating agency, we've seen how corruptible and unreliable they can be.

>>28992239
>how do I track it like I would in Binance?
Just put it on Metamask.

>>28993975
its the opposite you have 100% control over your assets(tokens) and the trade. look up etherscan and look at your address, your trades etc. you will learn quickly if you are curious and explore things on etherscan

>>28994046
i guess i will. cant afford to pay 200 dollars in gas for 200 of eth

>>28994288
Get a McJob even part-time and use that money. Work in a construction site for $50 a day. Sell stuff you don't really need. Suck dick in an alley, but get some money while the bullrun lasts.

>>28994288
at current gas a trade is like 50$

>>28994288
NGMI anon I’m sorry the ship is leaving without you

>>28963995
lol fake photos

why so scam, bro?

>>28994944
>shows no proof

>>28990440
This is gonna moooooon

buying ETH with fiat directly in metamask if worh it to avois gas fees ?
Fees for buying in metamask is expensive tough..

>>28994944
Garzik is in fact the founder of Vesper: https://twitter.com/jgarzik

0x1b40183efb4dd766f11bda7a7c3ad8982e998421
Is this the right token address?

>>28995152
always double check tg and coingecko.

>>28994944
You're going to be serving me martinis off a silver platter soon boy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaV8_6Kta7o

>>28993098

Timeline on the airdrops going out? I heard it was today. Also is no one concerned that the supply will be nearly 8x in a year? I could see the probably easily hitting 300-500MM MCAP without even trying but with circulation ramping up that quick Idk.

>>28995125
Did the airdrop take place yet? Is it safe to buy?

>>28995255
Not yet it seems.
Check their twitter for updates.

>>28995255
i'm sitting in TG right now. they are fixing the dataset for the beta rewards. the airdrop will go out last but it'll be fast.

>>28994944
retard

>>28995440
Are you in the official TG or is there a separate one for traders? The TG I am in has chat disabled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlFBUo2tk3k
check out the Youtube channel for info on tokenomics

>>28995550
yeah, i think they've disabled chatting until after the airdrop. personally, i think the floor will be $26 after the airdrops unload. i really wish we could set limit orders on uni.

>>28963842
Been researching this for the last 30 minutes, everything this guy said is legit. This has insane potential, potential 2-3x even in the next few days.
>Jeff Garzik the CEO is an early developer of Bitcoin, very famous in the cryptosphere, has 90k followers on twitter for example, crazy amount for a developer.
>Co-Founder Matthew Roszak is a literal billionaire. Forbes wrote and article about him and 4 other crypto personnel, Winklevoss twins, Michael Saylor and Vitalik. This is a lineup of the crypto superstars, only guy missing is Elon, fame wise.
>A woman; good for publicity, seems to be very ambitious and smart. Has a master’s degree in bioinformatics from Georgetown University.
>Didn't go through all the other developers since I only did 30m of research but they look pretty nerdy and that's good enough for me.

If anyone's skeptical so far, I found this video on youtube explaining their tokenomics by none other than the billionaire himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlFBUo2tk3k
In this video you have in top to bottom order:
Phil Gomes
Zane Huffman
Jeff Garzik
Matthew Roszak

I also found an easter-egg? This Zane Huffman, the "Strategist" guy has a website with .biz in the end. https://zanehuffmancrypto.biz/
One of us?

>>28995125
fake twitter with fake photo

>>28963842
why is it so expensive already?

>>28995931
>what is mcap?

>>28995794
Lmao

>>28995794
I'd buy more but I'm out of ammo.

>>28995827
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffgarzik

A little concerned about this fud bros, why is it not on his LinkedIn?

>>28963842
Thanks anon, needed this after getting rugged by umx

>>28996351
>https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffgarzik
https://youtu.be/-x0rGKAmxB4?t=141
Here's a literal video of him in a Vesper conference, if this is a deepfake then it's the best one I've seen.

>>28996351
Go to his twitter. He is tweeting about it

>>28995827
explain yourself faggot

>>28996466
I mean I am just saying I had a very promising low mcap coin with similar returns that I was about to dump 2000 tether into but you guys caught me by surprise and I don't really trust posts on biz anymore after getting into the telegram community. I want to buy but it worries me that it's not on his linkedin and I cannot seem to find Vesper Finance on linkedin either.

>>28996536
I trust linkedin more than twatter. A little harder to pajeetify a fake linkedin account.

>>28996750
Check the other team members

>>28996668
>>28996750
Yeah sure anon its a pajeet scam that the entire crypto industry is in on. Defipulse, sushi, 1inch, qiao wang, messari, literally everyone is out to scam you with deepfake videos of garzik speaking and fake twitter accounts. IF IT IS NOT ON LINKEDIN THEN IT DOES NOT EXIST.

That is a good rule to live by anon. Ygmi

>>28996750
I'm sure it will be on his linkdin very soon, his very active twitter account from 2010 with almost 100k followers and the video of him above speaking about the project for more than 2hours+ was enough proof for me.
This is what it looks like to be early.

>>28997006
Just noticed my ID is BUyY kek

>>28996750
You are retard. Say it with me

>>28996668
>Vesper is a new platform for easy-to-use DeFi products, courtesy of
@bloqinc

this shit is as worthless as bao
buy bao though

>>28996750
the guy is verified on twitter you dumb cunt

to anyone considering buying before the airdrop. the beta testers got the tokens for free. what would you do if you got free tokens worth thousands? and $13mil of it will unlock very soon.

>>28997286
As someone who is about to get the free tokens airdropped soon, I will hold them and stake them of course.

For those of you asking about the airdrop, here is some info:
"The team is still working on the beta rewards calculations. This delay is related to making sure that the community gets the VSP its supposed to. There was an error in the VSP payout dataset. This would have led to the community not receiving the VSP tokens it was supposed to.
The team is regenerating this dataset with the correct data. This requires looping through each 6-hour period from beta-start to present, then looping through each holder in that period, to sample their balance. Multiplied times 3 pools.
The delay is related to the slow regeneration of this dataset with the correct payout calculations.
Once the dataset is generated (slllooowwww!) and validated (fast), the beta rewards will go out (fast)." - Jeff Garzik

>>28997286
Also gotta factor in that so many people are waiting for the airdrop to be over so maybe they will outweigh the people that do decide to sell. Maybe not though.
What would they do with free tokens worth hundreds of thousands?

>>28997286
Im just gonna buy more if it goes down. Not only that but I’m sure they know how much this is going to be in the long run, why sell free tokens now?

>>28997458
>>28997449
i think the sell pressure will be too strong for the price to stay sideways or pump. we'll see in a few hours i guess.

>>28997449
qrd on how many addresses and how many tokens are being dropped?

>>28997986
the current circulating supply will get doubled

>>28998114
rip

>>28998114
and thanks fren, i'll be getting some on the dip. setting my limit now

>>28998138
Yeah project launches today, backed by billionaires. This is the definitely the top.

>>28998246
b/c i said project was gonna fail. you emotional newfags need to go away. i'm not gonna pay a premium for something about to dump, sorry you did.

>>28998470
Haha, I’ve been here since 2013.

>>28998518
>2013.
Fucking newfag.
2007 is the absolute latest year you can consider yourself not a newfag.

>>28998518
>Haha
anon... i..

Also all you retards holding out for the airdrop dump are gonna see the dump from 40 to 35 and buy in there. Shoulda just bought in the moment you heard about it.
We fucking pumping already.

>>28998470
You’re right this is the top. Lemme take a pic for old time sake

>>28963842
Looks gut

>>28998774
>Also all you retards holding out for the airdrop dump are gonna see the dump from 40 to 35 and buy in there. Shoulda just bought in the moment you heard about it.
We fucking pumping already.

>t. airdrop recipient
kek


>>28998832
do it fren. my money is literally on a dump below current levels (well, against aave at least, since that's the piece of my bags i'm swinging rn) at some point after the drop prior to moon. maybe i don't get it, fair play. but i probably will desu

>.finance
every single time

>>28998992
Nah I literally just read the first 3 posts of this thread and bought 4 eth worth.
I'm that low IQ high IQ crest meme.
I'm the low IQ scale.
If it looks too good to be true, then buy in immediately.

>>28999231
I am in fact the same as you anon.

When does staking of VPS starts?? what are the returns going to be?

Can I buy with binance peg ethereum

>>28999333
Checked. We're both gonna make it.

good time to buy in now if you've been waiting for a dip.

>>29000022
Checked, Meet you boys at the yacht party

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>29000735
what did you expect after the airdrop? just hodl

>>29000792
this seems like a great time to buy. I'm super bullish right now. glad I found this post

>>29000792
Oh did the airdrop happen?

>>29000792
did the airdrop happen?

>>29000881
yes join the discord
dev is has done 1/3 of the airdrop

>>29000881
>>29000879
Could be, the price dropped from $35 to $28 in 5 minutes, so I assume thats the first sellers, might go down more, but we are all so early and the market cap is absolutely tiny.
>20m market cap backed by guy who's worth more than a $1b is nothingburger.

Fucking gas is $60 get fucked I only want to buy 1.5 vsp

I bought 55 at $34 like an ape. Let's see how this ages...

>>29000862
Isn't it 1/8th? The dev said there's 7 more airdrop transactions to go

it'll go up as soon as these faggot airdroppers finish selling. just hold if you bought before the dump.

this better be the next compound, i fucking fomo'd in like a retard on a coin that released 4 hours ago... kill me