/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28899281
I’ve got nothing to lose and everything to gain. Give hedgies wedgies.

>>28899281
Shill poster back to roll dubs and have kek shit on downie 2x4s

Do you think Melvin will fold and cover before the congressional hearing

>>28899512
Close, but no cigar.

how much longer are you niggers planing to play this larp battle out?

>>28899571
unlikely i'd say

>>28899589
Yeah Melvin is kind of fucking me here with my digits.
Also why are you lads referencing that squoze site when it hasn't been updated in 8 days?

>>28899592
until the time comes

>>28899512
>>28899592
as long as you keep getting baited by it

>>28899592
Until the hedgies and I are having a Gamble battle with revolvers on the roof of the Empire state building over who gets to keep the money.

>>28899592
The kikes made peace impossible

>>28899851
I approve this message

*continues holding*

>>28900029
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY WON'T HE SELL HIS BAGS, I'VE BEEN BLEEDING HIM FOR 2 WEEKS NOW HE SHOULD BE UNCONSIOUS.
WHY WON'T HEEEE SELL, AKAGI SHIGERUUUUUU
THIS IS MY DESTINY, I AM THE EMPEROR OF FAAAAATE.

>>28900330

>>28899660
OP got lazy with the OP, it does need some updating.

>>28899281
Whoever makes the next thread, please remove the squeeze link and add these under ">Hopium" or whatever:
https://www.etfchannel.com/type/most-shorted-etfs/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GME/comments/ll5t0l/new_ftd_data_is_out/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GME/comments/lkrpqz/we_now_have_a_logically_timeline_for_the_squeeze/

>>28900456
It really does sum up this whole shebang
They /really/ want people to sell.

>>28900330
Dear shills and hedgies,

Why are you scared? I mean... what's so scary about losing money?

Regards,
Dolan

>>28899592
when they cant afford to pay you anymore

did pocohontos and bartending donkey take melvin et al to court yet or did they tap out?
>>28900456
top kek

Something to note: Despite pic related being reposted all the time it looks like the website isn't showing that 200%+ anymore, though by combining the shares owned by the top 20 funds and top 20 institutions you still get 110%+ which is good. Also both of the total amounts at the bottom show an increase, which is even better.
https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/xnys/gme/ownership

>>28900966
I mean, anything over 100% is literally impossible, so fine with me.

>>28900966
days without jewish tricks:

>Why are you buying the stock?
>Because an event that I cannot predict reliably might happen.
>Doesn't that seem like a gamble?
>No, my friends online said it has to happen.
>Surely you're not paying too much over the actual value of the equity?
>Well it was previously rated at $5-$8 but they brought in a new team of c-levels that will surely turn this brick & mortar physical media company around.
>Didn't they say they were doing the same thing for Sears? Brick & mortar physical media -- you mean like Blockbuster?
>Yes, but this time it's different.

Anyone hear about these stocks KYNC and SRMX? They are OTC and went crazy the last few weeks... also have over 100% short ratio

They recently dipped so i bought in.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/2000-two-weeks

>>28900575
this kills the Melvin

>>28901782
>>Doesn't that seem like a gamble?
Yes. That's why I'm here.

>>28901782
What are situations that never happened for 250$, Alex?

Ah yes, aftermarket, all the people worried about you losing money and had 12 hours to watch stocks and shitpost have all left the thread. Almost like they were on a shift, ha ha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y40XVMNw_QA&t=87s
Calm, relaxing music for Gambling Parlor waiting. The chips are down, all we need to do is see the hands of the people at the table.

These threads died faster than the stock price of GME

>>28902462
nice music

>>28902523
Almost like alot of the people here to shitpost were paid to be while the market was open and ditched when it ended and a new thread came up.
Huge buy signal.

>>28902976
Choom!

>>28902920
Or, hear me out: the smart people sold at the 400s and the new traders dipped out as it tanked and the chuds have been left holding bags

>>28900497
Does anyone actually have any data on when XPR got 180% shorted and how much that number was before late january? Shorting retail businesses would seem like a good move because of the pandemic, could be it has nothing to do with GME.

>>28899592
until you stop seething

>>28903092
I hear you, can you prove it?
Like with data and numbers?

>>28903092
>smart people
>can't read short interest
what did he mean by this

>>28900966
blatant lie. it literally still shows 200%+
http://finra-markets.morningstar.com/MarketData/EquityOptions/detail.jsp?query=14%3A0P000002CH&sdkVersion=2.58.0

Shareholders tab

>>28903142
Didn't XPR have some of their portfolio in GME?

>didn't even check GME all day
>still at 50 and crabbing

>>28902976
Fren, I have something to tell you, listen closely

>>28903264
Yes, but reddit claims that XPR is shorted so high solely because of GME, saying that hedgies are shorting GME synthetically by shorting XPR and going long on everything else on the ETF.

>>28903142
Fuck no they don't. It's why they're holding bags.

>>28901782
This was literally posted in a previous thread today, you shills should at least make some fucking effort for those shekels

Anyone here think the hearing on Thursday will accomplish literally anything?

>>28904159
1 of 2 things.
We get fucked or they get fucked: The trial

why are you buying into gamestop when you could buy into Loves?

*buys more NOK*

>>28904159
It won't do anything. I have my hopes up for March 19th though.

>>28904222
Nice trips, but ultimately the squeeze depends on when Total Interest Paid is > cost of covering the shorts. I highly doubt the banks would let them quadruple down. Because they tripled down with synthetic shorts with EMF's they are already in the hole billions. They quadruple down and we are talking tens of billions

>almost 48
good, time to buy again

GME will hit $10k EOY
trust in the plan

>>28904222
but what would either situation look like? Would congress force RH to pay all the GME holders? Will vlad be imprisoned? Melvin anally raped? I pray that congress actually does research ahead of time so they can actually ask these people decent questions unlike the fucking facebook trial.

Nothing will change after this except maybe more limits on retail option investing because fuck the citizens right.

>>28904596
What's on the 19th of March?

>>28905252
market crash

>>28904615
>Not expecting them to quadruple down.
Man, they are gamblers too.
They will put everything on the line to avoid being poor again, or poor for the first time.
They /are/ the enemy remember? They mock us and laugh at us for existing.
You think surrender is an option for these fucks?
It's not over until it drops into nothingness.

I can't honestly seeing the banks allowing the shorty to do that

>>28905477
checked and confirmed

>>28903142
https://www.reddit.com/r/GME/comments/lknjkc/xrt_is_being_used_to_hide_gme_shorts_xrt/

>>28902462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M9o3OuuoRE
more goomble music

>still near 50
I dont know how you fucks are keeping this dead store alive but kudos

>>28906015
reddit defeated the hedgefunds

>>28906015
Like a wise man said, "We can stay retarded longer than they can stay solvent."
It's only a matter of time before our hubris cripples us, or them.

when amc moon bros..

>>28906015
try Morgan Stanley
https://fintel.io/sob/us/gme

>>28906385
When the normies catch GME's second wind and the hyperFOMO starts because the price tag is lower.

>>28906385
literally never, it was a diversion away from GME.

I took the loss... see it as karma for all those years of torrenting movies kek

>>28906603
>https://fintel.io/sob/us/gme
Deutsche Bank owns it oh no no no no no
HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF

featuring Keith Gill
AKA "Roaring Kitty"

>>28905915
shenanigans continue.
>>28904764
low quality shilling continues.
>>28905218
>>28904159
>thinking politicians give a fuck about protecting citizens from bamboozlement, and aren't just loud mouths connected to hands reaching out for bribes
"justice" system lmao. i'd sooner trust the cartel to be fair and honest with me than a US court.

is it still possible to scam redditors out of all of their money?

>>28901692
Holy fuck Talmudic arithmatic is actually not a meme

>>28907095
No, the scueme has already been scuomed

>>28906015
They paying overtime? What are the benefits like?

>>28907224
think of that with new 78% short interest self-report lmao

>>28907364
Nigga I got out at 220 because I didn't think it'd go higher and hate myself for it.
Im just surprised its still up from 4. Is there a way for Game stop to make money from this like AMC or is that not happening.

>>28907659
if you got in because of the squeeze, why would you not come back now that the short interest is still abundantly high, price stabilized, the volume has gone down, and institutions went in?

If digits, crabbing ends tomorrow and we moon

yo how can squoze happen if hedgefunds are hiding their shorts by shorting XTZ, I thought shorts needed to be high on the stock itself for squeee to squoze

>>28908021
Because REPORTED is 78% so it's not high on the official list, but 78% is talmudic math, so it's 156% shorted.

>>28907822
doesn't have the same hype as it did earlier, thats what set the price so high. without millions of more people holding it'll crab forever at this rate. If I'm wrong I'm going to be pissed at myself but I can't FOMO into this without the security it had before

>>28908388
the shills have went from trying to get us to drop to preventing new people from getting in, it must be close.

>>28908388
reasonable, are you going to follow the hearing to see if somehow re-ignites the hype?

>>28907832
i hope those were dead before that machine fucked em good

500,000 shares bought by 3 new institutions btw

>>28899281
Delusional bagholders praying someone market buys billions worth and lets them out (they won’t) kek

>>28903347

this is literally the most obviously irrefutable evidence of fuckery.

how can shills even explain this away? i’ve literally not seen a stock hover over such a specific price for such a long time. completely unnatural.

>>28908780
Very nice

>>28906851

bro what if

bro

what if vlad and dfv are the same person


BRO

>>28908645
The case(s) against RH? Yeah, but that's mainly because I can't remember any case similar to it, might actual affect how things are done. If hype comes back, I'm back. Just here to make extra money so I go where it goes.
I just realized how incredibly jewish I've become.

>>28908999
>*cough*Tesla @ 420 for three months*cough*
nice trips

>>28909426
yea but thats based on somethin other than meme magic and jewish tricks.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

https://www.melovedata.com/fail-to-delivers-and-gamestop-a-look-inside/

why are they allowed to failure to deliver without consequence?

>>28909538
explain

>>28909596
We will hopefully being to find out on Thursday

>>28909694
3 new institutions bought shares today, one is a german bank

>>28909487
Tesla was also heavily shorted around that time. Still a good sign given the aftermath of that long v. short battle.

>>28909694
Deutsche upped their position from 31.8k to 410.6k (shares)

>>28909694
deutsche bought 380k shares
cmt bought 54k
weiss set up a baby deal for some future price
js bought 50k
wolverine set up a deal for 360k for some future price

im an idiot so i could be wrong.

these all happened after hrs and so squiggly line go up on market open?

>>28909596
What does this mean, where it talks about the section Jan-Feb 2020?

>This period had fail to delivers for Berkshire Hathaway stock, which had a price of over $300,00 per share!

>>28909721
affluenza strikes again. if they lose the chess game, they throw the board off the table. amazing.
>>28909799
>all these huge buy ins and the price still be crabcakes
totally organic

Fuck I bought another share and bought more amc and nok FUCK THE HEDGIES

>>28909538
kek

>>28909538

so are all of these mafias jumping in now to carve out melvin / citadel?

is there a situation in which they win yet somehow we get left out of the feasting?

i just want some bread crumbs.

>>28909538
I really need a shill explanation for this event.
Maybe it was the nazis all along?
We should have known better /biz/ shame on you

>>28909799
>>28909831
>>28909859
Are we going to the moon for real? I want a new house for mommy

>>28908757
To be fair, thats a more humane death than most animals could hope for.

>>28910128
Literally just hodl and wait

>>28910128
good question

>>28910128
Only if you hold too long, I guess. I sincerely do believe we're gonna see a market crash when the shorts do start covering (there was a screengrab on Reddit—a note from Goldman Sachs about how the market would hinge around GME; it was two weeks old but it just goes to prove how fucking big this thing is. If anyone can find it, post it below. Also note how Citadel literally owns 20 fucking percent of the market.) so it'll be pretty clear when it's happening. As to how far it'll go, I don't know. Apparently, the theoretical price target is 32-35k, but this shit really is unprecedented so we can't predict it to a tee.
>>28910240
Speak for yourself motherfucker, I've been espousing the institutional infighting theory since January. Buckle up.

>>28910618
No way this shit hits 30k a share. Upper fantasy limit should be 10k and even that is unlikely, if we all make a thousand a pop I'd be super happy. That being said, i think its time to up my number of shares

>>28910986
dont buy until it drops back down to 4

>>28910618
I meant the "ITSOVER" shills trying to justify a movement like this. Don't take me for a fool I know we're just spectators.
The Kong vs Godzilla was a pretty good visual aid but it's not posted anymore.

>>28911039
Take this (you) melvin, it is my gift to you. You'll need it since you'll be unemployed soon

>>28910986
2500 OOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>28910986
Seems improbable but I wouldn't underestimate how much these trillion dollar institutions are willing to fuck over their competition. They'll gladly crash the market, merc their colleagues, and let retail investors take the blame for the crash. I will admit, however, that 30k is pretty ludicrous. That's apparently what projections say the peak is, but those are ultimately projections after all. Let's see how it goes.
>>28911039
>>28909538
Yeah whatever you say retard

>>28911232
Ah, true. All the shill arguments (if you can call them arguments) are completely unfounded and basically boil down to them screaming at us to sell, kek.

>>28910618
here you go
https://old.reddit.com/r/Wallstreetbetsnew/comments/lldgrq/from_a_bloomberg_terminal_more_proof_the_gme/

>>28911455
bro, where are you getting that $30k prediction from?

>>28909859
This shit for real? Holy fuck boys, tomorrow I'm buying 10 more shares. See you the moon with our lambos.

>>28911455
30k projection by WHO?

>>28911455
I dont doubt they'll try for every penny possible. But take the number of shares, then 300-400% that, then multiply it by 35k. That is an unreal amount of money that has to come from somewhere, we wont just have money magically appear for us.

>>28909859
sauce on this, my man

>institutions buy more shares
>Congressional hearing on Thursday
Check this numbers anons, rocket is ready for lift off. 30k, here we go.

>>28911904
read the thread

>>28911904
>>28906603

so if this actually goes up to 30k wont it crash the economy?

>>28911997
no survivors, I'll personally sell my other stocks, the opportunity cost lost of doing this is low compared to the risk.

>>28906751
Is this 64d chess

>>28911827
This shit, for real?
Not even some name-calling, just low effort irony.
When are the good shills coming? You are obviously underpaid and unhappy.
Can I interest you in a new job offer?
I'll pay you in cash.

>>28911722
>>28911861
It's a much-touted projected target I've seen on here and Reddit. However, I have no specific post or DD for you so I guess I'm kind of unable to cite my sources here.
>>28911894
Well that money would come from shorts liquidating the rest of their positions. And—if it gets bad enough—the government stepping in to bail them out. That's why it has such broad implications for the market as a whole. See >>28911721

>>28909859
wait, so did Deutsche just buy shares? If the options column is blank does that just mean they straight up bought shares, or does it mean we don't know if the bought calls or puts?

>>28911997
My quick retard math puts the total payout at 7.35 trillion dollars. (~300% of ~70mil shares at 35k per value). I sincerely doubt melvin can pay that, nor their citadel masters

>>28912162
Not a shill man and that's wasn't irony. But I'll gladly let you suck my dick if you pay me before hand.

>>28912228
Blank options column means shares, it'll say calls or puts in that column if they bought those

>>28912257
then who will get the money?

>>28912257
Keep in mind Melvin and Citadel aren't the only firms shorting this, just the most prominent ones.

>>28912349
jews

its kind of sad watching people grasp at whatever piece of data the concern trolls throw at them. every single day the pole is moved back and the trend is still downward. sad. sad. sad. such a shame.

>>28912586
>+$15
There you go champ, now why don't you run along get yourself some GME stock like daddy

>>28912586

>>28904591
I had one of those growing up and it was comfy. Their newer ones are nowhere near as good.

>>28911997
30k x 70m shares = market cap of 21,000,000,000,000

for reference. the price tag of the housing collapse was 13,000,000,000,000

seems doable desu.

28912586
Not even gonna give it the (you) this time. If you want to feed yourself melvin, you better get good at suckin dick real soon

>>28912674
>>28912694
the thread is full of people like this. concern trolls or counter trolls. anytime you say something that doesn't go with their narrative of this going to $10k they dump 'shill' all over your post. i cry inside everytime i see things of such low integrity.

>>28912799
I just wanted to make a profit of redditors. I don't want the world to burn once I'm rich

>>28912807
>caring about other people's wallets when we are sat to pad our own.
Go away, we don't want you eating up our shares anyway.
I'm buying 100 more shares tomorrow now that i know the germans are involved.
Remember VW?
More shares for me, chase off all the newcomers you want.

>>28912927
wasnt vw the one where porsche told everyone they had 74% of the shares and would not sell which caused an actual squeeze instead of this crowd funded less than 5% total shares in the hands of 'diamond' bagholders. btw vw only went up 5x during the squeeze. gme was nearly 30x in the same period.

>>28912924
Eh, government'll bail em out eventually

>>28912807
>i cry inside everytime i see things of such low integrity
Nigger you have no emotions and you know it

>>28913025
Yes.

>>28913025
Well now institutions combined own over 200% of the shares and refuse to sell.... sooooooooooo....
Get fucked.

>>28899281
Not selling. In my mind the money is already lost.

>>28913025
melvin, the vw equivalent for today (hedge funds) own over 100% of GME and they are not selling.

id say that things are still due for a course correction

>>28912924
>>28913056
If anything It'll probably just speed up the timeline of post WW1 Weimar Republic-style hyperinflation from 2025-2026 to like 2022-2024. Plenty of time to stack up on gold with your gains before that, though.

>>28909596
tfw I look at these fuckers actually have a FTD when it was up in the 300+ range

oof

>why are they allowed to failure to deliver without consequence?
If that looooooooooooonnng list of FTDs doesn't tell you anything then i'll fill you in: Failures to Deliver aren't anything that really has a consequence. It's essentially just another part of the stock market. For us regular people it's fraud but up top it's just putting your money in the wrong place and having to suck it up.

>>28907832
>crabbing
as in GME holders get their legs chopped off?!

>>28913274
>having to suck it up
>paying out

>>28913125

>we're going to make the hedge funds pay trillions of dollars to us!
>hedge funds declare bankruptcy
oh well its too bad you're sitting on those shares. i hope you werent hoping for the government to insure your protential profits off option trading and equities. blackrock will take them off your hands for $19.99

ok /biz/ what is the worst possible outcome for GME?

>>28913453
more like hedgefunds get bailed out because if they dump their holdings in everything else because broke, the entire market will do so to avoid loss of gains, and then there's a big market crash and unemployment skyrockets to record highs so the fed will bail them out

>>28913537
All the holders are experiencing it right now.

>>28913537
It moons to unreasonable levels again and crashes the economy.

>>28913602
buying high selling low?

>>28913453
>its a melvin pretends the stock market isnt propped up by boomer money episode

good one melvin

>>28913537
A melvin survives the mass suicide and flees in the company helicoptor to a remote village in south america. His survival being a constant threat to the world my genetic legacy will inherit

>>28913642
That, gamestop going bankrupt or them holding on for eternity and checking GME every day for the rest of their lives

>>28913688
it's for you

>>28913181
This is exactly my plan. Boomer rocks will carry me to financial stability for my poor ass family.

>>28913453
Institutional longs make the real profit you fucking mong, we might be getting a lot but it's just a drop in the bucket compared to the absurd amount of money these whales are going to suck out of their colleagues' limp carcasses

if melvin goes bankrupt then each of you get to choose $20 worth of office supplies in lieu of the phantom short squeeze

>>28912257
If they can't the collateral falls on the banks and government

>>28913864
Don't forget to buy property for dirt cheap when the housing market crashes as well.

>>28914025
you do realize that number of shares is nothing right? what is that like .5% of the outstanding shares?

>>28914306
i dont think youre actually employed by melvin cuse youre just too stupid. i think youre a buy high sell low fren whos too bitter to wish his other frens well.

>>28913688
based digits kek

>>28914306
You forgetting the ~200% institutional ownership? Here's another one for ya: BlackRock upping their stake from 8.6 million to 9.2 million two weeks ago.

>>28914443
even if it was a large amount of shares isnt it slightly concerning that the price is still trending downward after all of these funds are buying in?

all this incoherent ramblings for $15

>>28914197
>make bank off GME while crashing the stock market
>have your pick of other investors or hedgies liquidated mansions for pennies on the dollar
>retire early to your own private paradise
The future is looking bright frens

>>28914471
yea. and that has nothing to do with your day to day stock trading. its concerning because its the death throes of a hedgefund and theyre not going quietly. that should concern literally everyone

>>28913688
>88
Witnessed, I want this to happen.

>>28914453
>blackrock a company worth nearly $9,000,000,000,000 spent $36,000,000 on a stock
oh really? wow thats a sign if ive ever seen one. a large institution buying a block of shares?! wow what other companies are they buying? i bet if you follow the same strategy you see in those buying reports that you'd be so rich right now!

>>28914471
because unlike reddit actual investors buy low and sell high

>>28914453
Stop posting those screenshots Anon, I'm g-gonna, I'm gonnnaaa c-C-C-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>28914676
Note that share float should be around 69 million, yet this reports 110 million being held by institutions (not including insider ownership as well). Done yet?

>>28914966
know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away

>>28914471
>guys Bitcoins below $10,000 again even though there’s a shit ton of people buying!
this is (you)

>>28915056
I'll sell when Morgan Stanley, Deutsche, Vanguard, and the innumerable other financial institutions that literally own 200% of the share float sell, how about that? Get the fuck outta my face.

>>28914552
Theoretically there should be a 2-4 year gap between Step 1 and Step 2 but yes, things are looking up...fren.

>>28915184
>Vanguard
So when Vanguard liquidates the ETFs that hold GME?

>>28915184
>he bought at $300+

>>28913453
>>28914027

The shorts and debt doesn't go away if the hedgies declare bankruptcy, just passes the buck onto thee banks behind them.

>>28915416
>passes the buck onto thee banks
in that case who gives a shit about gme? buy bullets, water and food.

>>28915386
Here's the final nail in your coffin. Hope you at least got paid for it.

>>28915492
>I haven't been doing that for years
Man you better get cracking then. Ammo is scarce nowadays, yer ngmi if you dont have at least 10k rounds for each caliber of gun you own

>>28915517
>didn't sell when it was 10x
Are you retarded?

>>28915056
Why dont you have an actual rebuttal for this?

When is everyone expecting this to happen ? I have been planning to quit stonks and move all my money to forex and crypto by at least the 26th of February but this GME thread has piqued my interest again

>institutions own shares
>the stock will go up

Shills getting destroyed holy shit

>>28915682
because everyone keeps throwing around short numbers. how many of those shorts are in the money? we went from 226% -> 78%, a 300% decline. people want to pretend like all of them were at the 52w low.

>>28906751
>HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF
Give me a quick rundown

>>28915871
Thoroughly.

>>28915855
Holy shit the shills are literally working overtime right now, it’s late bud I can’t believe you’re still shilling. Usually the after hour threads are chill but it right now it’s swamped with you fuckers. Smells like desperation.

>>28915925
the squeeze is not squoze

>>28915899
Germans destroying jews

>>28915824
Its not up to us so cant give give an accurate timeframe, whenever the institutions decide to floor the pedal is when it happens. We are literally just riding their heels for big juicy crumbs now

>shills forever btfo

>>28915897
if you're not a shill then you're a literal fucking retard.

>why you buy this stock sirs it has no value
>buy my stock instead good internet users
>much buy yes

I see how it is.

>>28915897
Because if you weren't, for some weird reason, so concerned in getting anyone to sell, you'd look at the evidence being posted that the shorts didn't cover nor decline by as much as claimed. They moved their shorts to an ETF with GME in it. It's completely evident by gigantic increases in FTDs. Don't pretend this is some impossible conspiracy theory. They're smart, know every trick in the book, and want to get out of this without paying. There is every incentive to not play fair, and it's only publicly available data that's allowing people to see it.

>>28915897
It's well-established that XRT—among other ETFS—was used to obfuscate true short positions, demonstrated by the sudden increase in XRT FTDs right (and its subsequent inclusion on the threshold securities list) right around the time GME was taken off the threshold securities list. And if you don't think short selling ETFs then going long on every stock except for the target stock is a thing, I literally read a 60-page paper on this last night and will post multiple passages from it that demonstrate its adherence to the GME situation to a fucking tee, with the only difference being that the authors claim stocks that are shorted through ETFs tend to go down due to low institutional ownership, and guess what you grubby little dimwit? GME is 200% institutionally owned, like I've said to you multiple fucking times, and yet you choose to ignore it and stick with your dithering demoralization tactics instead. How does it feel to be a wagie while posting on 4chan as well? You just can't catch a break, can you little buddy?

>>28915897
Stream your suicide for us when you
>I missed GME

>>28916216
what did they buy them at then? citron had a price target of $20. if they shorted on the way up they could have covered their positions many times over once it settled at $50-$60. even then its a 50% haircut, so what? if im not mistaken they reported a 50% loss, didnt they?

>>28915855
You are fundamentally deficient.

>>28916529
The price target for the shorts in the beginning was far below 20$

>You are fundamentally deficient.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2836518

>Accounts by market participants corroborate this conjecture: For example, MarketWatch reports that “One hedge fund with which Weinhoffer is familiar was struggling to borrow a stock and instead shorted an ETF that contained the shares, ... The manager then took long positions in all the other stocks in the ETF”. Barron’s recently runs a column piece titled exactly as “Synthetic Shorting with ETFs”. It points out that hedge funds frequently create synthetic shorting using ETFs, particularly when it is costly or outright impossible to borrow the target stock(s). In addition, some hedge funds prefer using ETFs to short underlying stocks so that their rivals cannot easily detect their trading strategies.

>Our empirical analyses suggest that directional betting, especially synthetic shorting, is an important component of ETF shorting activities. First, we document that shorting activity on the ETF rises with the difficulty of shorting underlying constituents. Specifically, ETF short interest is high when the demand for shorting the underlying stocks is high, when the lendable supply of underlying constituents is low, and when the cost of shorting the underlying stocks is high. When we proxy the level of short-sale constraint of constituent stocks using idiosyncratic volatility (Pontiff (2006)) and Amihud (2002) illiquidity measure, we find that ETF short selling is more active when the underlying stocks are less liquid or more volatile. These relationships are robust to controlling for ETF characteristics such as ETF size and turnover, and the intensity of operational shorting activities. It suggests that there is a (partial) substitution between stock-level shorting and ETF shorting, especially when an ETF’s underlying stocks are difficult to short.

>>28916635
and no one was allowed to cover those. they have to hold them until each reddit user can afford to buy their own tesla.

>To the extent that short sellers use ETFs to express their bearish opinions on individual
stocks, stocks that are heavily shorted via their holding ETFs should expect to earn negative returns in the future. Thus, in the second part of our empirical analyses, we examine the informativeness of ETF-level shorting for future returns. As a first check, we examine the predictive relation at the ETF level. We find that ETF short ratio negatively predict future ETF returns, suggesting that a non-trivial fraction of shorting activity in ETF is driven by directional betting. However, since ETF shorting can also be used for synthetic shorting on individual stocks, one should be able to more reliably glean information from ETF shorting activities by aggregating ETF short interests to the stock level.
One of the key innovations of our paper is that we construct a short interest ratio for each stock from the short interests of all ETFs holding that particular stock. This measure, which we call the ETF-based short ratio, reflects the collective shorting demand of that stock through short selling ETFs. The idea is that stocks in the intersection of several highly shorted ETFs are more likely to be the true targets of ETF short bets. We first validate our ETF-based short ratio by examine its correlation with hedge fund ownership. Our result shows that stocks which are heavily shorted via ETFs have significantly lower hedge fund ownership, suggesting that the measure does capture well the shorting demand from sophisticated investors.

Like I said, to a fucking tee. Only difference is that GME retains a obscenely high amount of institutional ownership. Look at this again:

>some hedge funds prefer using ETFs to short underlying stocks so that their rivals cannot easily detect their trading strategies.

Obscuring short positions, institutional infighting...sound familiar?

>>28916488
>>28916751
>>28916841
well shaggy i wish you the best finding those phantom shorts. i hope you brought some scoobie snacks.

>>28916960
Are you legitimately incapable of formulating a counterargument and backing up your claims with tangible evidence?

>>28917084
>posts a bunch of links he found on reddit
did you co-write these? kinda sucks when people are dismissive of your opinion, huh?

>>28915871
thanks for saving my pic lol

>>28917084
Counter THIS
*unzips dick*

>>28908021
Where did XTZ come from? I have heard nothing of the sort.

>>28917198
>can’t refute evidence
>tries to attack character of an anonymous poster
Buying more tomorrow, never been more convinced this will pop

>>28917198
This is from an academic paper. And muh Reddit isn't really an argument anyways. You sound like you dropped out of high school and took up wageslaving at the tender age of 16 lmao

>>28916960
>>28917198
just don't even interact with retards like this, they deserve to wagecuck forever

>>28917198
9/10 troll you really had me going well done

>>28917220
Easily explained by the increase in XRT's FTDs from 10,000 to over 2,000,000 on 1/29, go back to sleep.

>>28917604
Back back to sucking my balls lol
Fucking owned
*drops mic like the GME stock price*

I'm confused... should we buy GME or not?

wait a second you think these are older shorts than january? you think people have actually held onto those? do you know how much interest that would have cost? they would have went bankrupt weeks ago.

>>28917476
I'd also be interested in seeing if foreign ADRs can be used in obfuscating some of these trades. The ETF strategy is brilliant, but there are definitely more really creative methods that they can use to muddy their FINRA reporting with.

>>28917720
No one gives a fuck what you do

>>28917724
Stoppp ittt, Anon the b8 was gr8 m8 but it's over. Do you understand the AUM of Melvin? I know you do, because you're a trolllll

>>28917740
>there are definitely more really creative methods that they can use to muddy their FINRA reporting with.
I agree, and I am oddly interested in the bag of tricks they have up their sleeves. "Short Selling ETFs" was a pretty fascinating read, given that I'm going to be majoring in Econometrics when I start college this year. Ultimately, though, they are simply prolonging the inevitable. I can't wait to see this house of cards fall.

>>28917703
>goes back to sucking his own balls
No surprises

The other guy I won't give him a (You) but there were hints at some of them being from december. You just forget the greed of the human race, simple as.

moon before april?

>>28918279
Nobody can know but if you really want to be optimistic I'd say very likely.

>>28918219
I accidentally typed back twice and now I think I need to drag my sac across some bagholder faces. My sac is full of semen which is valued at 20x the price of GME so you lads should feel blessed.

>>28917476
They've already started comparing anyone researching GME is akin to conspiracies by Q. I feel like if this situation was about any other topic (with less educated people), they would be trying to spread how colleges are also conspiracies to brainwash the youth, therefore any academic papers are immediately suspect. It's wild. Anyway, thanks for sharing this.

>>28918388
Is that the mistake you made my sweet summer child? You typed back twice?
Alright then.

>>28918521
It definitely wasn't selling on Jan 28th for a 1200% profit (got in somewhat late)

>>28916960

Absolutely cringe response

This is BS! I demand more diversity in my GME congressional hearing!

Good night anons, the future is bright.

Shills, suck my dick.

Basiert

>>28919322
I like some of the Johnny Sins porno, but what the fuck does he know about investment strategy

>>28919430
Meme value is very important in meme market, anon. I'm not even trying to sound ironic, the more people are looking at this through mainstream media the better for this possible outcome.

About to take a 15k cash advance on my credit care and buy like 200 GME tomorrow. AMA

>>28919430
He knows when not to pull out

>>28899281
If Kek wills it I will buy these asap

>>28919727
Do it faggots. You'll never get another shot at dragging yourself out of lower class. Buy your mom a Tesla, move somewhere nice,get A House. Start a business.

Save your bloodline.

BUY GME

>>28919893
As long as you hold stock as well Anon

>>28920018
no get so no calls for me, I'll just buy shares I guess

>>28920091
Reroll for the lulz and post pics or didn't happen

>>28919893
rolling for this instead

>>28920214
too risky still??? what about this?

>>28920294
or... more risky...??

>>28920370
bet the farm risky???

>>28920444
you've got to be fucking kidding me

>>28920444
OH SHIT, KEK WILLS IT.
TO THE FUCKING MOON

>>28920444

>>28919919
just waiting for the market to open, anon.

>>28920444
A MOST PLEASING GAMBURU.
KEE HEE HEE HEE, KUYASHI.

>>28918033
Imagine the salt! Hedgies jumping out of windows while the media broadcasts damage control 24/7. Wagecucking normies confused as fuck as to why gamers own supercars and buy up mansions. I want this to happen so bad. Imagine the memes.

>>28921371
Gives "power to the players" a whole new meaning eh?

>>28912799
that math is off isn't it?
30k*70M
(30*10^3)*(70*10^6) = 2,100,000,000,000
if the housing collapse was 13,000,000,000,000 we'd still be off some orders of magnitude.
To crash the market with that value the share price would need to be 332k.
332,829.787 = 13^12/(70*10^6)

>>28920444
KEK, he wills it, you must now

>>28912799
That's assuming the price is static, some people will sell early while those wait will receive more at the risk of demand dropping out.

All up a few trillion could be on the line, some may even get to sell in the 100,000+ range but it'll be a small amount of shares traded at that price.

>>28920444

pic of completed order. We use the same trade platform so I will know.

>>28899924
The name's Ballsack Schrader, and you can go fuck yourself

>>28921957
Honestly if he does he might just make it
Based on the get he absolutely should, Kek wills it

so has public sentiment changed? i remember these generals getting slammed by shills. I been hodling this whole time but this thread is filled with shills getting btfo

>>28900575
Damn that 4% gain, you guys really are all retarded boomers huh?

>>28922189
I think we are getting bullish.

>>28922189
>>28922189
The shills getting their shit just absolutely pushed in is the best part of these threads.
Best part is every reply we give the shills is more money the hedgies have to pay out, so make sure to drop a (You) every time you see a shill

>>28921773
>100,000+ range
Look I do believe 30-35k is at least somewhat palpable but 100k seems to be pushing it

>>28922416
Yeah, I'm really hoping for 30k. That gets me halfway out of 6 figure hell, and I'll probably stop investing for a while and start a business of my own kek

>>28922416
You gonna place the order or not cuck? I know you can place it to be opened in the morning on that platform.

>>28922416
Like I said, it won't be many shares moving at that price. The price not being static drastically reduces the cap on the fiasco and a few people will make out like bandits at high prices.

>>28922547
>>28920444
Not the same guy dipshit
>>28922662
>The price not being static drastically reduces the cap on the fiasco
Could you elaborate on this? Do you mean the price won't be "steady"/experience a lot of volatility?

>>28900456
Ha! That’s better than the millions spent on shills.

>>28922818
It means that a fair portion of the market can be expected to cash out early on (say the 1000-3000) range, if say 20% of the shorts were resolved in this range you're looking at the squeeze not cost a simple amount of say 30000 x shares outstanding and instead being a smaller amount overall while some serious risktakers will cash out at a higher amount and others will actually become bagholders.

Equally people besides shortsellers will be jumping into the market buying driving the price higher as well.

Also yes, English am of fuck. It's my mother tongue but I'm lazy.

>>28922818
It will be a steady increase, some people will just cash out earlier than others.

>Steve Cohen will not be at the hearing on Thursday
It’s just a meme court filled with actors. Low level guys

GME or BTC, which is better and why?

>>28923106
I think I get what you're saying. However—given the fact that institutional ownership is something like 200%—don't you think it's possible that long whales milk their competitors for as much as is humanly possible and then some? I mean it's definitely safe to say that retail investors don't have much influence over this; it's all up to the big boys.

>>28923530
yes

>>28923618
They won't necessarily sell in totality, they'll milk it out in portions. Demanding progressively higher prices. What is certain is it will be in their interests to bankrupt most shortselling hedge funds. The money is to be made in the backing clearinghouses and banks.

Also yes retail traders will have a small part to play, the biggest being a lot of people will jump onto the bandwagon once it starts moving driving the price higher.

>>28923828
Finally, someone who gets the big fucking picture. I have to ask: realistically, how high do you think this can go? And by when? I understand the absurdity of this question given the obscenely unprecedented nature of the situation, but if you'd care to venture a guess, go for it.

>>28923964
Absolutely zero clue. I won't pretend otherwise as all I'd be doing is lying, this situation is entirely unprecedented. My greed compels me to aim for around 55,000. It's an arbitrary number honestly but I wouldn't be surprised if some retail traders and most hedgefunds got out with more. Especially if the Federal government bails out the banks.

>>28923964
Also as an aside, expect a huge dip as other holdings are liquidated. Bullish hedgefunds will snap them up but no reason you too can't get them.

>>28899592
>how much longer are you niggers planing to play this larp battle out?
there are still /ptg/ threads on /pol/.
retard hope burns eternal.

>>28923190
It’s also “virtual,” takes so much away from the theatrics

>>28924226
Thank you for your honesty. My target is 30-35k, but I guess I'll have to see how it goes.
>>28924305
If you're talking about the market as a whole, definitely. Citadel alone owns 20% of the entire fucking market! I can't wait to see how retail investors get blamed for this, even though their gains, which might be big for them, will absolutely pale in comparison to the gargantuan fucking killing these longs make off of bankrupting their colleagues. I'll definitely be sure to buy the dip and put some of my GME gains into blue chip stocks, solid ETFs, and the like.

In terms of the timeline, I do have July calls, and I think this should play out by then. Apparently, there's a larger put volume on SPY for 3/19 in comparison to other dates. However, as you said, this is all speculation at this point in time.

>>28923828
I agree with this, I believe Jan 29 retail lost control of this monster when other big money hopped on board, if this squeeze is truly SQUOZE like all the shills keep insisting then I dont see why it would sink from 400+ to 50 and then just crab for 2 weeks , big money is holding the leash on this we are just along for the ride at this point. Too much disinformation campaigns still being ran as well.

>>28923106
Also, out of curiosity, where are you from anon?
t. burger

>>28924808
Nice try FBI (New Zealand)

>>28924922
Holy shit, are you the Kiwi who claimed to have insider information premarket that it was going to moon that day a few weeks ago? Everything you've said ITT has been very rational but that particular shit was was not very cash money of you anon.

>>28919729
underrated

>>28925050
No, not me. Sadly most Kiwis have internet access nowadays.

>>28925189
Ah, cool. I believe you.
>Sadly most Kiwis have internet access nowadays
Kek

>>28924226
If GME hits $30,000 a share I will unironically get "Game Stop" tattood on my fingers kek

>>28925336
Thats a great idea. I would get one in the dark ones that show up in UV light

>>28925706
My mum has one of those around her mouth.