/biz/ - Business & Finance

If you understand the tech, it still is

inb4 some retard claims an already patched bug will kill the project

>>28892779
You vill eat ze bugs

>>28892620
Avalanche and Zero Exchange change everything, anon. You were right all along.

>>28892620
Still does

>>28892620

>>28892779
>understand the tech
>some txs outputs are seven times its inputs
>half the network thinks that's alright, signs the blocks and adds them to the chain
>the other half thinks that's retarded and halts it
>dev's won't dare to fork so instead they decide to hardcode the 'bonus' blocks
>the smart half of the chain can't verify them anymore and will have to unwillingly swallow them up forever
>...
>already patched bug
>bug
>patched

Why do I have this weird feeling that avax is going to reach $20 in a couple days.

>>28892620
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>>28894078
And here they are again, your AVAX FUD team. See, in pic related, all your favorite members.

>>28892620
I hate the fact that the hug happened so soon, just couldnt let us be great.

>>28892822
Go Pangolin. Way better, more exchanges, PNG worth more, and overall just works better in my opinion

>>28894252
you're the same guy that posts in every avax thread crying about avax fudders aren't you? I can tell by your writing style you were posting copypasta all day yesterday. And yes I am in every AVAX thread i have a lot of money on a short i opened at 48 and plan to close at 25.

>>28894591
Which one is you?
>I was FUDing and i'm the only one to reply to you that actually was, kek. Sorry daddy.

>>28894697
7x bonus blocks. It fuds itself

>>28894434
UX wise they're the same thing

but I think zero will do better

>>28892620
Bro's....

>>28892620
Why does this coin have 7 bonus threads every day?

>>28894252
>Accusing someone making a low IQ throw-away joke as being part of the "AVAX FUD team"
When the proponents of a project make such low quality comments, it's much more effective as FUD

>>28895511
Post your x-address again. I'll send you some more.
>>28895717
This one you?
>i won't do it again but help me get out of this shithole

>>28895684
its not a bug its a feature

>>28892822
>he doesn't know
ETH L2 is already faster and cheaper than Avalanche. Enjoy paying your high fees!

Not sure if I should sell on okcoin and buy back at a lower price. I should’ve a few days ago, now I don’t know if it’ll be worth it

>>28893487
Your argument is on point and nobody is able to say otherwise.

>>28894252
LOL. 2/11/21. The price tanked from $60 to $35 in that time. You're an idiot.

>>28895684

>Scalable blockchain
>Can't handle the niche launch for its uniswap clone
>Double spend
>"Bonus Blocks"

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>>28892848
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>>28894078
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>>28895511
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>>28895684
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>>28896837
See again:
>>28894252
>i was fuding all over the night bc im a poorfag third world who got priced out desperate to make it

>>28897097
Just counter this argument >>28893487 instead of doing whatever you're doing

>>28897097
>poorfag third world
We know Turk, we know. But your shite side chain is going nowhere lol

>>28897097
That was my first post on /biz/ today, but I recognize you as being the same roach who monitors avax threads 24/7 with his pathetic copeposting kek
Sorry mohammed, I'm not buying your bags. Maybe for 2 dollars.

>>28897203
>>28897378
See again:
>>28894252
>im a poor nigga and bought at top and fudding please gib

>>28895850
they're all me

>>28897097
>price falling like rocc
>"priced out"

>unintended minting

>>28897447
That screenshot you posted was an anon offering them money to say the things they were saying. The fact that you ignore the request to counter the argument on itself, and post pre-fabricated images, only gives the Avalanche brand less credibility

>>28897447
>price dropping like a rock
>still believes it's FUD

>>28897411
>>28897482
>>28897506
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>>28897629
>Multiple proxies are used by our team which generates a new ID when we make a post. By using these proxies and multiple IDs to communicate with one another, it becomes almost impossible to tell the difference from an actual conversation.
>>28897572
>b-but you paid for that!

>>28893487
post proof of this and I'll unload my bags

>>28893487
Literally no counter argument from anyone kek

>>28893487
>>28898043
what seems to be the issue? invalid blocks arose due to bug, a fix has been implemented.

>>28897951

>>28892620
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>>28898133
>>28898043
>>28898090
Source code here: https://github.com/ava-labs/coreth/pull/114/files#diff-9a870b1572ea65697aea0a8f959e0ee20efa4ff3370c3e39dcc2f3ec436b4fc3R212

For those without a technical background, in the above link we see in the file plugin/evm/block.go that a list of "hard coded" addresses were added to the source code starting from the line 22.

>>28898090
>breathes in
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>>28897934
I will not be stopped.

thank you jeets for letting me buy more at a discount

>>28898337
so...UNN is sorely needed then
buy Union Protocol?

>>28897934
stop acting like biz fud can make a significant impact to the price you schizo

>>28892779
>If you understand the tech, it still is
>
>inb4 some retard claims an already patched bug will kill the project

Wouldn't of had a bug in the first place if it was peer reviewed.

>>28898435
Frankly I don't know. I was betting on AVAX, but this bug / "bugfix" kinda made me lose hope. I am considering just sticking with BTC after all.

>>28898408
BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS
Buy all you want, this project has been double spent, it's DOA
BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS

>>28898451
>schizo
>it's a flase flag!
the state of you shills

>>28892620
only 60 iq poorniggers are not profiting from this

farming on pangolin is fucking amazing right now

liquidity is rising by 10 million per day

as soon as binance opens withdraws and stake niggers break free PNG will skyrocket and AVAX will be it's fuel

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>>28898679
>Multiple proxies are used by our team which generates a new ID when we make a post. By using these proxies and multiple IDs to communicate with one another, it becomes almost impossible to tell the difference from an actual conversation.

zzzzzzzzzzzz

>Pangolin liquidity is up by nearly 30% today.
>AVAX is down but so are most alts.
>The bonus block thing is a pretty straight forward solution to get everything up and running again.
Seems fine lmao. What the fuck are you people crying about? FTM literally went from 26 to 9 cents and now its up to 18 again. Welcome to crypto newfags.

>>28898585
BTC vs AVAX? they have almost nothing in common, did you lose your taste for risk?

I think the project might take a while to recover, and all of /biz/ has ADHD so many here will sell low, but looking at the caliber of the whole project, do you think they will just leave this issue unresolved?

>>28898796
aVAX is finish

I really loved this coin but it has glitches that let people seven spend..I think I'll just wait for ETH 2.0 which will probably render AVAX and all other ETH killers useless. My TA has us going down to $15-$20 range in a week or two.

>>28898796
Why did you quote me? I wasn't even talking to you

>>28898894
From a investment perspective, I saw AVAX as something like a top 3 coin. With ETH either on second of third place.
The thing about AVAX is the way that this issue has been handled from Avalanche Labs part. And that on itself might make the market react (negatively) on a large scale.
Put that with the fact that the largest token unlock will take place next month, I have a feeling there might be a huge drop in price.

>do you think they will just leave this issue unresolved?

You see, the thing is, from AVAX end, it is "resolved". Now the only thing that can (and probably will) keep it up, is the public adoption of the coin.

>>28899240
thanks for the totally reasonable and even-tempered response, anon

>Bonus blocks

>>28892779
I'll try

>>the other half thinks that's retarded and halts it
That's a good thing though

>>dev's won't dare to fork so instead they decide to hardcode the 'bonus' blocks
The question is, what's the better solution? Hard fork three chains, or soft fork through "bonus blocks"? The result is the same but one of them doesn't require hard forking two unaffected chains. They can't hard delete the blocks, so they went with the next practical solution.
If this ever occurs again, and I fucking hope they learned their lesson, they might resolve this in a smarter way by at least not making it hard coded and allowing a governance protocol to vote on such issues which is simply not possible yet.

Is the current solution a silly hotfix? Absolutely, will it matter in the long run? No, they can still improve on "bonus blocks" as a solution.

>>already patched bug
It literally is patched besides bonus blocks, not sure what you mean. The issue cannot occur again due to proper cross-chain validity checks

>>28900286
>Is the current solution a silly hotfix? Absolutely

See, that's the issue. Imagine from everyone holding AVAX right now. If that happened seven times to one user, imagine how many times went underreported. Technically speaking, the whole blockchain has been compromised.

starting to think we're being baited by a troll desu, or else the one AVAX hopeful is legitimately mentally ill

Yes. But it failed.
Its a not a safe investment, so I had to sell. Who knows what might happen, since they pushed the issue under the rug.
Giving free coins, instead of forking the network, was a bad decision, technically speaking.

>>28900549
>If that happened seven times to one user, imagine how many times went underreported. Technically speaking, the whole blockchain has been compromised.
??? It's known this happened to several transactions, including the exact amount which has (or will be) burned by the foundation.

You can literally crosscheck it in the chain explorers, that's kind of the point. The x7 / doublespendanon one is just the most well-known and by far largest one.

Your statement shows how much in this thread is just dumb memes and FUD.

>>28892779
Based first comment, no more needed

>>28897951
proof is the github link that's been posted many times, and the half-assed post-mortem posted on medium
i don't want you to unload your bags tho, i really don't have a horse in this race.. i just don't like shills, and think anons deserve to be informed about what happened before investing

>>28892620
Fantom

>>28892620
post your shorts or shut the fuck up

>>28898796
BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS
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>>28892620
I made more money than I have in a fast span of time. I literally thought we would be at 200 EOM, and I think we would have been. I literally, thought I had made it staking my 2000$ coins and living large. Crushed.

>>28903034
BONUS BLOCKED

>>28903143
HAHAHAHA yes. I got out at 50 on the way down with most of it haha but yes. I got BB'd.

>>28902815
if you want to see the ravings of a literal schizoid look no further. yes bonus blocks is the string name of an Occam's razor solution implemented as part of the fix to the minting bug. repeating it like a handicapped autist isn't making your fud any more believable

Hi guys, if I get some Avax do you think it can go 700%?

>>28904489
>FIX TO THE MINTING BUG
>ACTUALLY DOUBLESPEAK FOR A DOUBLESPEND
BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS BONUS BLOCKS

>>28904785
YOUR BLOCKS COULD

>>28904862
>more all caps autist ravings

>>28904489
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>>28892620
It was literally too good to be true. Anybody with any sort of technical background could've told you that it was impossible. And just like clockwork, the moment they went live their house of cards came tumbling down. Turns out, you can't just build a project on idealistic dreams without actual technological feasibility. Yes, I'm just saying the team behind was naive and rather uneducated - the alternative is that they outright lied to people to scam them out of their money. And we can't prove that. Yet.

BONUSBLOCKS
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LOCKSBONUSB
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>>28892833
still looks like double spend to me

>>28894252
yeah you avax fags aren't desperate at all...

>>28896837
>creator FUDS all other L1's 24/7 on twitter like hoskinfag as well

>>28898337
oh my god that is such a brute force bandaid, top kek

>>28905499
don't worry, the 7-spent blocks were deemed bonus blocks. they don't count

>>28906011
theres no other way to do it in blockchain, the damage has been done and it will be saved in the blockchain forever

>>28906228
Ouch