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Can we please take a moment to discuss divvies?

I'm making this thread outside of SMG since everyone there usually has an autistic breakdown anytime they are mentioned.

I am relatively new to investing and in addition to trying to play the quick dollar in stocks I want a reliable, more consistent investment source.

What are good ETF / Mutual Funds to invest in with dividends being the focus? What direct companies offer the biggest dividend returns?

Also, what is the ideal amount to invest to see a reasonable return in dividends?

Personally I have about three thousand dollars that I want to invest in a more reliable fund.

Thanks guys.

>> No.28868090

>>28867771
fuck dividends all my homies hate dividends

>> No.28868181

Why are people so hesitant to earn yield in defi?

>> No.28868910

>>28867771
Dividends are perfectly fine. /smg/'s problem with dividends is that the type of company to pay dividends is typically a mature company with excess free cash flow that doesn't have the sort of growth profile (pump and dump) they're looking for.

At the end of the day, you should look at dividends as just another component of shareholder return.
I don't advocate buying dividend mutual funds or ETFs as the concentration of holdings skews a bit too heavily towards financials, utilities, energy, and REITs. These sectors will have the biggest 'returns' via dividends but will not provide a comparable total return.

Also consider selling OTM calls while collecting dividends as this is another way to generate the sort of income-based approach you're looking for. An ETF like QYLD might be something to consider if you can't afford the shares needed.

>> No.28869021
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>>28867771
Divvies are a scam. Buy Chinese stocks like BILI, EH, SOS, TIGR, BABA, WIMI, BIDU, JD for riches.

>> No.28869312

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vffTJV0IzHM&t=132s
Other anons pointed out that this video does not include the loss on taxes and transaction costs.
I personally own very cheap XOM and bit below buying price KO and hope to reinvest those divs into them back, but the transactional costs are a bitch when you only can buy 1 stock.
Also check out https://www.dividendmax.com/

>> No.28869521

>>28869312
>>28868910

What is the issue with taxes? Are dividends specifically taxed differently than other earnings from stocks and trades?

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>>28869521
They get taxed in most cases. Buybacks are typically more efficient.

>> No.28870025

>>28867771
I like divvies. And I always auto reinvest. Free shares.

>> No.28870205

>>28869021
>Shills scam with Chinese characteristics.

Chinese stocks are a scam.

>> No.28870373

>>28867771
Reits offer the best dividends but they generally have the worst price appreciation since they issue new shares like niggers. Mutual funds and ETFs are scams if you must just do VTI or VTSAX but dyor and get 5% yields and above before they get gobbled up by weimar dodgers.

>> No.28871360
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REITS

>> No.28871534

>>28867771
divies are good if you have 1.5million dollars and dont plan on needing any of that money till after you die

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>>28871534
brainlet
>muh 250% a month portfolio is the only thing that matters
Good luck losing it all

>> No.28872955

what are some good ETFs or Mutual Funds for dividends?

>> No.28873050

Idk if you didn't pay attention or you just don't know but divvies are for retirement accounts, and investing directly into dividend stocks is silly when you can just dump that money into mutual funds that will give you broad exposure to these assets and you don't have to pay attention to anything and just watch number go up. Slowly but surely. Vanguard mutual funds are tits. You should have a retirement account for these types of assets and a trading account for making real money.

>> No.28874041

Investing your time in companies that yield safe 3-5% divs/year is really only worth it if you already have money. I invested my dad retirement money (450k) in dividend stocks but I myself stick to crypto and tech stocks because thats where your money multiplies if you play it right.