/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28816839
shh delet this thread

>>28816839
And becomes $11b richer

>>28816839
fuck off pajeet. if BTC dumps to 0 the market is done for, this scamtoken has literally zero chance

since bitfinex stopped funding the defence after discovery I'd say it's almost guaranteed

>>28817081
So what does this mean in reality. Are we going to see the market tank a huge shit in our mouths tomorrow if it comes true?
Is it dependent on what he does with the stash of BTC he receives?

>>28816839
delete this

so tomorrow is this faggot gonna disappear once and for all like what should have happened after the Florida case or what?

>>28816839
Hasn't that showman retard shot in the head yet? Everone knows Adam Back is Satoshi and nobody gives a shit.

>>28817244
wouldn't surprise me it won't change the fundamental value of anything though, smart money already knows. Remember the market crash when bsv and bch split, I'll never say anything is priced in again after that.
he already got access to the trusts last year and won't touch them until the conclusion of the kleiman case which is in june I think (it has been delayed because of covid)

>>28817467
The Florida case isn't over and he didn't mediate.

>>28817572
What I'm thinking too.
I don't personally see BTC ever going sub 20k again maybe even sub 30k.
There's too many people waiting to buy in, I think if it lost 9k value tomorrow it would bump from 40k to 45 in a day or two

>>28817244
>>28817467
>>28817526
I have no idea what will happen, but we are dealing a ball of uncertainty whose impact has on been mitigated by how under the radar this is to normies and redditors. Uncertainty can mean volatility or a huge nothing burger. I got a bag tonight just in case something huge happens tomorrow, however unlikely

>>28816839
It is absolutely happening. Check em

>>28817695
btc has practically no fundamental value but neither does the us dollar. Miners could be incentivised a long time by price appreciation from increasing velocity from transferring btc off chain through financial intermediaries as long as the ponzi continues which it can't.
Then again i have a very wealthy normie friend who started talking to me about bitcoin after musk tweeted, need to see market research data on how much more money can go into it or how much tether actually supports it's price or how likely massive usd devaluation is in the short term

>>28816839
*Deep breathe*
WAHAAAHAHAH

>>28818858

>>28817037
>calls OP pajeet
>BSV has literally 2x in one day
you need to go back

>>28818302
Lmao he has no bitcoins.

>>28817753
how long is this shit gonna last I have no idea how british court works

>>28819155
Not sure, maybe we should hit up the British general

>>28816839
so how much BSV should I get as a poorfag with a little over 2k in crypto assets total?

>>28819564
It’s a moon shot so I wouldn’t go all in or anything. I’m playing around with 10,000 and I put 2900 in

>>28817467

he won't go away, and a few retards will continue to believe him and ride BSV down to $.50

>>28819806
obviously not going to dump my live savings in, thinking of getting one, maybe 2 coins

>>28820081
I’m following some advice I learned the American museum of Jewish history, and betting on both sides

>>28816839
Any speculations about the effects on the price?

Can someone give me the QRD on this?

>>28820898
Either he is satoshi and there is a market crash where BSV goes up, or he’s not and not much happens

>>28821357
Thanks for the heads up, anon.

Not much downside really.
Buy a bunch and then set a trailing stop for 25%

>Submitting a crazy amount of evidence he is satoshi

>Not doing the one of several things that would instantly and easily prove he is satoshi

Oh look, this again

>>28819155
>>28819489
This case is estimated to last 2 days

>>28817695
And what if they can’t call BTC Bitcoin any more? Will people still be buying in to it?

Best case scenario
>Craig is confirmed to be Satoshi
>BTC dumps
>BSV pumps

Worst case scenario
>Craig is confirmed to be Satoshi
>BTC dumps a little
>BSV pumps a little

>>28822740
they can rename it to bidgoin :DDDD

>>28822835
isn't it possible we don't get "confirmation" at all?

Didn't one of Satoshi's wallets move some BTC a few months back? Surely this Craig bloke could just prove he is Satoshi by moving some BTC from one of the earliest wallets (if the not the first wallet) to another with a message?

>>28822929
I guess that's possible but Craig seems pretty confident about it, I doubt he and his lawyers would have gone to all the effort of producing 9000+ documents for no gain but I don't know anything about the legal system

>>28822929
Nope. We will have an outcome and it's more than likely CW is satoshi with rights to the bitcoin name. Anyone following should see this coming a mile away.

>>28816839

>>28816839
If BSV pumps because of that then I would lose faith in humanity

Isn't bitcoin and blockchain technology overall supposed to be free from any control or centralized authority? Why does he insist on patenting everything? Why no concrete evidence on being satoshi?

I like that he BTFO of blockstream, but you'd have to be a fool to believe him

>>28817244
He's not receiving any BTC you fucking retard.

Nothing will happen tomorrow.

>>28823453
Centralized authority = Lightning Network, offchain stuff, banks, Visa.
Patents = patents ... that's it... they don't control anything technologically.

But if he IS satoshi then he will owe the Kleinman family billions, what the fuck is the point of this again?
Is he trying to get ruled as being not Satoshi in Britain so he can get out of the Florida case?

>>28818302
>Miners could be incentivised a long time by price appreciation from increasing velocity
unfortunately no, it comes down to [having costs] vs. [not having costs] and the latter always wins. the amount of time and energy required to sustain a supposedly perpetual economy of immutable data is too much to bear. if they have $20,000,000 in BTC, and have $200,000/month in costs, they will sell all BTC and turn off their hashpower. the BTC chain is destined to succumb to chain death

>>28818985
>BSV has literally 2x in one day
what chart are you looking at?

>>28821357
He could also prove to be satoshi and then the market doesn't change anyway

sometimes i hate being a contrarian investor. this is my one big gamble.

>>28823920
it did 1.5x or so recently... in early to mid january it more than 2x'd.

buy the rumor [YOU ARE HERE]
sell the news

>>28822946
He doesn't want to set a legal precedent that keys=ownership.

Craig Wright explains why he never signed keys publicly and proving he is Satoshi Nakamoto in court
https://youtu.be/dC0wwFJ7cHM

>>28823453
He is doing it to destroy the banks and criminals that bought billions in BTC according to the screen caps of his private chat group. He says he will track every transaction and expose them all.

>>28823998
The market won’t change until he files DMCA takedowns to Coinbase, Binance, et al to stop using the Bitcoin name.

>>28824194
its done nothing compared to most coins in the last year

>>28816839
Courts can't declare someone is Satoshi.

There is a 90% chance that he can't prove he is Satoshi. He may have the keys for some reasons, he may have access, but he isn't Satoshi.

>>28824362
>He doesn't want to set a legal precedent
precedent already stands that proof of ownership requires documentation of ownership. possession of keys being proof of ownership will never be precedent because everyone knows owners don't always possess their keys, the same with car keys possessed by bailees or thieves, and the same with Username/Passwords possessed by supervisory agents or hackers

>>28817753
you were supposed to get a bag weeks in advance and dump an easy 2x on retards like you who bought a bag just in case. you'll be holding the bag when the nothingburger blows up tomorrow, retard.

>>28824493
>Courts can't declare someone is Satoshi
the defamation law is as follows:
>for a public figure on a public matter, the public figure has the burden of proving falsity of the defamatory statement
>for a private figure on a public matter, the defendant has the burden of proving truth of the defamatory statement
>for a private figure on a private matter, ^same

whether or not he can unequivocally "prove" it in court, the law states that in coming to a guilty/innocent verdict in a defamation suit, proof of falsity/truth must be established. once established as true or false, that issue is a legal fact and everyone will have to treat it as truth per collateral estoppel

>>28816839
Fundamental value doesn't change. However, I'm split on whether a dump might happen or not. You guys think he might go to jail?

>>28825163
>Fundamental value doesn't change
it has no fundamental value because ethereum exists.

>>28825338
>gas fees: 0.116513 ETH

>>28826024
will be fixed soon.

>>28826094
i hope im held prisoner in my alts right now

>>28826366
i didn't say this year.

>>28826094
with ETH 2.0 right? I've been waiting years

>>28822740
as someone who believes core and cash coin aren't the truest to the original version of bitcoin... this is /biz/ wishful thinking akin to /pol/ wishful thinking about realizing a white ethnostate. It'd be cool if it did happen, but it's probably not going to happen, lets be real here.

>>28826094
How come youre not smart enough to learn from Lightning Networks 18 more months?

Fixed soon is a lie because it cant be fixed. Better learn some patern recoginition quick.

>>28817037
what market, faggot? pnd scam tokens worth exactly zero real money?

> (((as someone who believes core and cash coin aren't the truest to the original version of bitcoin... this is /biz/ wishful thinking akin to /pol/ wishful thinking about realizing a white ethnostate. It'd be cool if it did happen, but it's probably not going to happen, lets be real here.)))

>>28824739
Oh no, not 3k, how will I ever recover from such a devastating loss

>>28823228
That just shows your confirmation bias. Don't fall in love with coins, trade them rationally.

>>28816839
lol

>>28822567
>crazy amount of evidence he is satoshi
"My son Craig is secretly Satoshi Nokia, signed, Mrs. Wright (Craig's mom)"

>>28824362
this much copium

>>28826531
two more weeks...I´m sure.

>>28826094
Q predicted this

Even if that fag wins the case can't bitcoin groups/institutions just move out from Britain and ignore this case claiming that the other countries don't recognize Craig as Satoshi? Or just move to the US, Craig wouldn't want to get involved in the Florida case and would gain nothing.

>>28816963
>>28817244
>the stash of BTC he receives
How fucking stupid are you?

>>28830601
international law..... He would continue on and on until there is nowhere to hide but Somalia.

>>28831100
What about the Florida case. What if China just ignores british shithole just as they genocide muslim tribes all the time and nobody stops them.

>>28826094
No it won't.

>>28829463
unironically this but his uncle

>>28816839
idk if craig is sathosi or not, but heres the thing. If you listen to the man it's hard to deny what he is saying. If he is a total fraud it's sort of hard to believe he could continue to kickass leading 200 people on a dev team that is mastering their road map. - and stacking patents.

Craig is continuing BTFO'n dweebs that don't know shit. Bankers and chinks are literally crying out as they strike "you" in regards to BSV. Craig mocked them about bitcoin being Turin complete and the fucks over at blockstream didn't have a clue. Is it possible craig is out for blood because bankers and block stream mutilated and co-opted BTC? BTC is a decentralized piece of shit now.

Craig's autism is one overdrive because he wants a usable P2P currency. Not some gay mid-wit technofaggot "store of wealth" ponzi scheme, with bankers profiting via side chain from BTC's misery.

digits confirm BSV fuckin' people up.

>>28833937
It's actually so very easy to prove he is Satoshi.
He owned 17% (that we know about) of all Bitcoin in June of 2011.
https://youtu.be/IUjoeQmfjRw?t=138

>>28833937
Craig was lambasted for the turing complete statement.

https://youtu.be/LdvQTwjVmrE?t=1006

Craig Wright smacked down every developer on planet earth.
He told everyone that Bitcoin is Turing Complete at a conference. Look at the reaction. He's nuts, he's a lunatic. This went on for months on Twitter and blogs and forums.
https://chescosteve.blogspot.com/2016/05/craig-wright-satoshi-and-turing.html

and yet it turns out he was 100% correct.
https://twitter.com/sinoTrinity/status/1355577117619044352 (embed)

>>28816839
Holding BSV has been the most painful investing experience of my life. Every pump dies the next day. BTC and BCH constantly outperform it. It's on the verge of falling out of the top 20. My friends who held BTC and ETH are making huge gains with platforms that have stupidly high txn fees and barely work. Everyday is just pain and hoping that Craig finally fucking delivers, but deep down knowing that he probably wont and I probably wont even get a chance to break even before the next crash and bear market comes.

>>28834287
Any of the dweebs explain gettin' fucking dunked on by a "fraud"?

>>28834166
I know this may sound like a cop out, but Craig seems to have an interest for multiple reasons by not doing that. He is playing some sort of game. Part of it may because he wants to catch some of these people off guard. I am not really sure. He also may have some sort of tax/liability reason.

>>28834709
just be glad you got the chance to accoomulate, cretin

>>28820081
>ride it down
it's only going up though

>>28835909
Maybe... Hopefully it dumps for a bit first.

>>28824362
>He doesn't want to set a legal precedent that keys=ownership.
signing the keys wouldn't set that precedent though because it's as stupid as saying I have the keys to your car right now therefore always did and I own it
additionally he has already signed for andresen and matonis and others

>>28816839
Hal Finney was Satoshi Nakamoto. Pretty obvious to anyone who has looked into the matter.

>>28835825
"chance"

so far its been nothing but a ton of missed opportunities

bsv has yet to deliver on anything

>>28824362
maybe he is autistic enough to be satoshi. I just dont see it though.

>>28836541
>Hal Finney

>>28836541
https://www.coindesk.com/satoshi-nakamoto-hal-finney-emails

>>28816839
Shut the fuck up I need to buy more

Will answer a handful of questions regarding Craig Wright’s effort to retain his Crypto patents and exercise ownership of the Bitcoin (BTC) brand.

About to shower so will need a little bit ask away
>t. Someone who read 1000+ documents from his Florida docket case

>>28818985
ok pajeet