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>>28785255
Go back

>>28785348
Fuck off

>>28785255
I kneel.

>>28785393
WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO MAKE YOU CAPITULATE

>>28785255
Nano is by far the most tragic and insane community in crypto. Pic related. You find one VP Mastercard, out of thousands, giving a small comment positive to scam Nano and you push it on plebbit, facebook and all over the place as an endorsement by Mastercard and future cooperation. This is how you scammers operate.

>>28785255
>>28786245
There are at least 3200 VPs and 1000 Executive VPs at master card.

>>28785255
raiblocks was cooler, nano just sounds faggy

>>28785255
>>28786245
>>28786359
Australia's local VP business Mastercard suddenly added this to his LinkedIn:

>Disclaimer: My views expressed are of my own.

>>28786517
Kek
Some plebbitor corporate stooge is shilling his bags and normies are gonna get dumped on again.
When will they learn?

>>28785255
Only reason why anyone has heard about Nano is that they lied about Nano having 7000 tps (reality was 1% of promised tps) when BTC network was clogged in late 2017. Worse Nano has the absurd business model that they can get suckers to run the network for free, zero compensation whatsoever, and thus have zero fees. Works well when NOBODY is using the crashed tech network. However, if you ask how much it will cost in CPU, IO, bandwith, hardware etc to run a global network on their plebbit page, /r/NanoCircleJerk, you will be banned within seconds. Same if you ask anything related to their crashed tech, cost analysis for a global network based on volunteers taking all the costs, swindle, corruption and scam. Nano provides zero real-world transparency.

Swung back into this shit yesterday -- knew it was shilling. Dumping this for good

>>28787083
The sad reality behind the vile 7000 tps claim from Nano scammer devs, Jewish grifters and Italian swindlers, was 75 tps. Even today, two years later, Nano scammers can't even muster 10% of what they claimed in 2017.

>>28786245
Don't care, still the most usable and technologically sustainable crypto out there atm.

>>28787166
Cope more pajeet

>>28787166
BIOLOGY IS SUPERFICIAL

POV: you didn't buy when it was 0.5 USD

>>28787213
>Don't care, still the most usable and technologically sustainable crypto out there atm.
Ridicilous statement. Nano's claim in their whitepaper is absolutely rubbish. It's just as crazy as me stating that I will go the moon using my bicycle, proudly claiming that my speed is unlimited, only restricted by my muscle strength and I am getting stronger and stronger for each day and very soon I will be strong enough to get such a high speed that I will jump to the moon. Ridiculous. Do they have any written plan for 100 000 TPS? Any cost analysis? ETH and other competitors will roll out 100K to 1 million TPS in a matter of months/year.

Nano has done zero cost analysis for 100 000 TPS bandwith, CPU and IO. Random volunteers are supposed to take costs involving millions of USD each year, working on the network 24/ with no downtime, holidays, Christmas etc. Nano has done nothing to provide how it is feasible for Nano to reach 100 000 TPS within the next years. However, imagining it's possible, Nanoids admit that Amazon and large operators like them will take all the costs and burdens of operating the system. That's a clear and open single point of failure (SPOF) and is the very reason why people choose crypto currencies over banks and centralized payment systems. That Nano is not able to identify a clear and basic SPOF in their system is worrisome on multiple levels.

>>28787273
>Cope more pajeet
Back to plebbit, faggot.

>>28787299
>BIOLOGY IS SUPERFICIAL
This is the kind of comment you get when most of the Nanoid psychos came from the old, crashed, Bitconnect community. Pic.

>>28787460
>Random volunteers are supposed to take costs involving millions of USD each year
straight up not true. the nano node is lightweight enough to run on a raspberry pi. the biggest cost factor is bandwidth, and I'm pretty sure that doesn't cost millions of dollars a year.

>working on the network 24/ with no downtime, holidays, Christmas etc.
working in what way? they don't have to fucking stand there and feed the node.

>Nanoids admit that Amazon and large operators like them will take all the costs and burdens of operating the system.
yeah. they have skin in the game, keeping the network up and running is important for them.

>That's a clear and open single point of failure (SPOF)
it's not. they can't pull a sybil, most they can do is shut the nodes down, at which point people will just select a different node to represent them.
big companies will never be the only ones with nodes on the network.

anon, looking over that post -- are you the same dude that was shitting on nano like a year ago, shilling some other shitcoin? (multivax? megavax?)
because if so, that's kinda sad. consider finding a hobby.

>>28787213
>Don't care, still the most usable and technologically sustainable crypto out there atm.
Nano is centralized as hell. Explain pic.

>>28787460
also, in regards to the article you attached in the pic -- challenge #1 is straight up false, challenge #2 is a design choice, and the state of decentralisation presented in challenge #3 is no longer true.

>>28788155
>straight up not true. the nano node is lightweight enough to run on a raspberry pi. the biggest cost factor is bandwidth, and I'm pretty sure that doesn't cost millions of dollars a year.
That's only with a handful of nodes and virtually zero load on your network. A global currency with micropayments must have at least capacity of 100 000 tps. Your shitcoin and crashed network can't even do 1K sustainable over time. However, let's say that you could, what would the costs be, CPU, IO and bandwidth, with 100 000 tps and tens of thousands of nodes? Do you have any clue? No? Have Nano Foundation done any kind of cost analysis? No? Why not.

The rest of your comment indicates that you have no clue what you are talking about. Your shit network is wide open for spam attacks, due to your feless transactions, i.e. volunteers taking all the costs for no reason. Your hysterical core dev Colin is threatening to sue anyone who stress test or spam test Nano. Pic. What a joke.

>>28788155
>it's not. they can't pull a sybil, most they can do is shut the nodes down, at which point people will just select a different node to represent them.
>big companies will never be the only ones with nodes on the network.
Yeah, Nano Foundation only has to send around zip files to "update" the transaction history, right? No crash, right?

>>28788428
You can't have a shop with free goods, saying that volunteers must bear all the work and costs and then dismiss all criticism saying it is supposed to be so by design.

How much Nano did Colin and his friends get during the faucet scam? According to court documents they got the vast majority of Nano. For many, Nano Foundation dumping Nano worth 300 000 USD on Nano bagholders each month sounds insane. Well, not so much when Colin is using funds from Nano Foundation to fight private messy divorce and slander accusations in court.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.746752/gov.uscourts.cacd.746752.1.0.pdf

Has Colin completely lost it? Insane statement in a legal document:
> (In layman's terms, at present, it [Nano] is the Cadillac of cryptocurrency.)
>On 28 January 31, 2018, the periodical Medium declared that it "is objectively the best pure cryptocurrency"

After dumping like a madman, Colin claims to have only 5-6 million Nano left.
Colin is angry that confidential information were leaked from this lawsuit and confidential settlement agreement:
https://decrypt.co/6396/nano-cryptocurrency-seeks-dismissal-170-million-rescue-fork-lawsuit

From Nano Foundations/Colins lawsuit:
>They tell their customers 'if you really believe in Nano ..... go to this small exchange in Italy that we don't know anybody and we have nothing to do but we completely vouch for him and he's running a legitimate exchange', we're gonna [sic] give him the Nano, he's gonna [sic] give us money every time he sells a Nano, he's gonna [sic] take half and we're gonna take half, we're gonna [sic] get rich and then one day there's gonna [sic] be an exit scam and then you're gonna [sic] be out $150 million."
> Mr. LeMahieu and the other Nano developers face the prospect of a jail sentence in a current Federal action

>>28788681
>The rest of your comment indicates that you have no clue what you are talking about.
what a quality response. good talk, sport.

>>28788772
>zero proof other than a random 4chan post
thank you yglgu5Tj, very cool!

>>28788428
>>28789188
(cont.)
>"Uhhhhh Nano, the CEO and the head guy at Nano [guess he is talking about Zack Shapiro] who holds 90% of the Nano at like $15 it was worth $1.4 billion, I think it's down to like $4, so I think it's only worth like $400,000,000 now. Uhhh, he got divorced from his wife last year. He decided that he was ready. He deserved better because he was now rich. She took all the money. And then, the financial affidavit, she, they, argued about how much the Nano was worth and what the Nano was. But I will tell you this: he said it had value and he said that he believed it was going up and he believed it was a security cause [sic] he put it on his security side of the affidavit."

Coline whined and demanded this information not to be made public. However his claim is absurd:
>Mr. LeMahieu is a private citizen.
A CEO of a foundation that at one point in time had a multi-billion dollar market cap and hundreds of thousands of "investors" is not a "private citizen".

>>28788155
Even former core dev Zack Shapiro has no faith in Nano. Pic.

>>28789253
>zero proof other than a random 4chan post
You know it's true. How many node operators have left Nano the last year? How did they react when the got instructed what to do by Naome Jones in what is supposed to be a "decentralized" network. Tell us.

Powerful. Pic.

Nano - A New England without Racism and Bigotry

>>28787437
Kek. Also this guy who hates Nano is in every Nano thread. He should namefag at this point.

>>28789548
I'm not even going to bother replying. this is like reading the ramblings of an insane person.

seethe

>>28789781
Run away as you always do, Nanofag. You are never able to defend your scammer team or crashed shitcoin anyway. Pic related.

>>28789731
His name is Pajeet Copemeister

>>28790044
I get hairy unwashed Burger man vibes from him so it's probably something like Adam and he's borderilne schizo.

I will never forgive them for the name change. Old bame and logo were godtier, now its just pathetic

>>28789731
damn, give me some lore on the dude. what does he shill?

>>28789731
>>28790044
>>28790117
>>28790206
Back to /r/NanoCircleJerk, trannies. You have to go back.

>>28790206
Lol, sorry I haven't read his posts closely enough to see if he forces a shill in there. He has some beef with the NANO dev team and not only dedicates his life to baselessly FUDing them on social media, but also harassing the team directly in their Discord etc. He's an actual stalker but instead of obsessing over a girl it's the NANO team that his life has meaninglessly become revolved around.

>>28790352
>this dude goes to live a tranny life instead of lusting after girls to procreate
>admonish his lifestyle
You really are a moron aren't you.

Nano is to the hard left of Zuckerberg and fighting hard against the so-called "free speech".

Strong powerful message that really filled Nano's COO with hope for the future and a strong desire to fight racism and bigotry.

"Today, I submitted my resignation to Facebook.
I cannot stand by Facebook’s continued refusal to act on the president’s bigoted messages aimed at radicalizing the American public. I’m scared for my country, and I’m watching my company do nothing to challenge the increasingly dangerous status quo."

>>28785255
American NANO is not even under consideration for Coinbase. Nano has zero institutional adoption or cooperation, plus they have been burning through their dev fund and will go bankrupt within the next 2-.3 months.

Great job by woke Bikini Blogger George Coxon, COO of Nano, with zero experience, connections, or tech knowledge, - a rabid hard left open borders feminist.

Her LinkedIn likes include:
>Muslim invader and Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan
>World Economic Forum
>IMF's Christine Lagarde
>BBC
>Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
>and more pure globohomo and hard left persons/organizations

#WomenInTech #BLM #OpenBordersNOW #Diversity

>>28790523
Not reading but since you're here why don't you honestly explain why you feel the NANO team hurt you and why it brought you to such extreme motivation to spend 24/7 hunting NANO social media to desperately FUD? I want to hear your villain origin story.

>>28790609
Nothing says "open borders" and "progressive leftie" as a trip in your private jet.

>>28790375
>also harassing the team directly in their Discord etc.
holy fuck, I'm actually starting to feel legitimately sorry for the guy. here's hoping he can pull himself together.

>>28790697
Pic Nano's Chief Operating Officer showing Colin, Nano findom "investors" and all the "misogynists" in the tech industry her...ahem.. "job qualifications" as a Chief Operating Officer (COO) for a 4,5 Billion USD ATH Mcap crypto project.

>>28790609
Seethe more poor cretin

>>28790789
Bikini blogger and Nano COO with no tech knowledge, business experience or education, contacts etc, telling EU how difficult it is for women to enter tech and have a career in a male-dominated tech industry.

#WokeNano #paypigs #WomenInTech #GenderQuotas4TopJobsNOW

>>28790703
yeah, I do feel a bit bad for him (mental illness sucks) but as you can see he has been stalking NANO team's & associated social media and saying insane shit on it. It's somewhat threatening at this point. I feel bad of course for the NANO team having to deal with it.

>>28790609
>>28790789
>>28790853
Any critizism of Nano hiring a bikini-blogger with zero relevant qualifications, and Nano's feminist/woke founder and CEO, Colin LeMahieu, goes hysterical.

>>28790609
> they have been burning through their dev fund and will go bankrupt within the next 2-.3 months.

You guys have been using the same FUD since 2017, kek. At least change the numbers if you're going to keep using it.

>>28790697
>>28790789
>>28790853
Fuck bros she looks like she likes anal

>>28791057
When did I say that NF would go bankrupt within 2-3 months in 2017? Give link, faggot. Tragic and pathetic that all you crazy Nanoids scammers have is lies and ad hominem attacks to "defend" your criminal Nano dev/team and crashed shitcoin. Back to plebbit, Nanoids. Pic related.

>>28785255
>Nano has 756 TPS [1][2]. VISA can handle over 56,000 TPS [3]. Competitors work on 1 million TPS solutions [4]. Nano’s aim to be global currency is either delusional or a fraud.
>7,000 TPS was falsely boosted and promoted, causing the Nano price to skyrocket 97.7x in December 2016 alone. Real transactions per second (TPS) for Nano, however, was a meagre and pathetic 100-200 TPS [5].
>Nano falsely claim theoretical unlimited scalability, only constrained by hardware and bandwidth limitation [6]. This is as absurd as claiming that a car has unlimited speed theoretically, and the goal is to drive so fast that the car escapes earth’s gravitational field and park on the moon. Nano’s technical updates don’t bring it closer to the goal. It’s like saying the improvements on the engine of the car has brought us closer to driving to the moon.
>Nano advocates like to use average demand as benchmark for needed TPS. This is false. Who will use a currency that will crash at every emergency, at Christmas and other holidays?
>Nano (Raiblocks) was a dead amateur coin, worth less than 10 cents less than a year ago, until it was discovered and pumped hard by Italian scammers. Only after the pump did Nano full time dev. This amateur project has had a full-time dev for less than a year, with a horrific team and management picked among incompetent friends and supporters.
>Lead devs are leaving Nano. Insiders obviously know Nano is riddled with terminal flaws and structural problems. Insiders obviously know Nano is riddled with terminal flaws and structural problems.
>Devs are dumping Nano on the market [7]. Insiders obviously know Nano is riddled with terminal flaws and structural problems.

>>28791704
(Cont.)
>Constant node issues. Withdrawals/deposits suspended on several exchanges due to security and stability issues, multiple times, every single month. All exchanges down less than 6 weeks ago [8]. Kucoin less than 3 weeks ago [9]. Another failed update and node crash this week [10][11]. This despite being miles behind having any sort of global currency traffic. Nano could be years away from even having the potential to be a well-functioning global currency.
>Coinbase will only use coins stable for multiple months. Nano is far away from that, see above and [8] [9] [10] [11]. Coinbase will also stay away from a coin riddled with legal problems [7] [12]. Best case scenario is having Nano on Coinbase late 2019, if at all, leaving Nano hopelessly behind other cryptocurrencies.
>One single miner can destroy the network via DDoS with 500 GPUs at no cost [13] [14]. A critical attack vector never seriously addressed by the Nano dev team. Having the problem highlighted to them, admitting to it, their response has been the usual -to promise and deflect -without providing any real technical solution. Nano is wide open for a massive spam attack crippling the network for a long time. This also scares the Coinbase experts; a total crash in Nano, via spam vulnerability and insane node issues, will reflect badly on Coinbase.
>Nano team seem like tech amateurs. Don’t understand the difference between Random (not cryptographically secure) and SecureRandom. Don’t even understand basic cryptography. A disaster in waiting.

>>28791780
(Cont.)
>Former head of engineering at Facebook, Bryan Veloso: Nano "just a hype...no real use case" [16]. Currently NANO is only processing 0.15 transactions per second. Transactions have gone down in the last months. Extreme low usage combined with a very speculative 90x pump in just one month, causing a flash crash, are all indicators of a coin with pure hype and speculation, without any real value. Bryan Veloso’s claim that Nano is just hype with no real use cases is validated by empirical data.
>Charlie Lee, creator of Litecoin: “Nano will have a hard time being decentralized... It won't be as uncensorable as Bitcoin or Litecoin” [17]. “Nano is not without faults...it has a LONG way to go” [18].
>Millions of USD sold from the Nano Developer Wallet lately, at extremely low prices. Not a good sign that devs are dumping Nano in a fire sale [15].
>Nano team marketing strategy is to have no marketing strategy.
>Nano team adoption strategy is to have no adoption strategy.
>Nano’s essentially following same strategy as Betamax vs VHS and HD vs BluRay.
>First coin on Amazon, eBay, etc. will be the global currency. Nano’s avoiding partnership. Nano’s publicly stated “strategy” is to not seek strategic partnership, basis being that USD has no partnership as a currency, so why should Nano have one. Ridiculous.
>Dev fund is dangerously low, they may burn through it in a matter of 1-3 years [15]. Also, multiple pending and coming lawsuits against the Nano foundation.
>100 addresses hold 65% of all 133 million Nano. Initial distribution to friends of developers, nontransparent distribution method. Who solved the captchas? Where is the audit? Extreme centralization that only got worse with BitGrail, where large holders of Nano (including devs/friends of devs) managed illegally and unethically to get out of the insolvent exchange, leaving normal investors behind to take an 80% loss.

>>28791857
> 51.27% voting weight, held in 6 addresses, opens vulnerability to devastating 51% attacks.
>Flawed structure, currently insane 92% of the voting power in the top 1% of the nodes only [19].
>No smart contracts. Masternode coins utilizing high capacity data contracts on their second layer are the future. Nano can't do any of this, it cannot compete with other coins.
>Must run expensive nodes for free. A borderline insane and untested business model that will most likely crash the network. Even if it worked, no matter how unlikely, with full adaption the cost of running a node would be astronomical, leading to extreme centralization. Having again the elites controlling our money must be avoided. No financial incentives for DPOS representatives to keep securing the network.
>Same whales that pumped and dumped Nano first time (-98% from ATH), pumped again. Failing to pump further, will result in a dump again, very soon. The delusional Nano hodlers will be stripped of their money again.
>70% centralization of all Nano, due to Nano original developers setting default node to their own.
>The code hasn't even been audited by an established software security company.
>Nano is permissioned and non-trustless [20]
>Going from UDP to TCP too late and too slowly [21]
>90% of github commits by only one person (Colin) in the whole “team”.
>Hired pretty girl, G. Coxton, who’s done nothing. Why’s she not on YouTube pushing Nano?
>Nano team are business amateurs. Pushed BitGrail when clearly a dangerous exchange. Guaranteed bomber as a good guy. Rebranded to Nano right before BitGrail exploded. Retarded decision. Marketing disaster.

>>28791916
>Nano has no ‘human face’ for people to connect with, it’s just an empty logo. Unlike other top 10 coins – e.g. Ethereum has Vitalik, Tron has Justin Sun, Litecoin had Charlie Lee. NEO has Da Hong Fei. EOS has Dan L. etc.
>Nano has post Bitgrail probably the worst community in crypto [22][23], much of it due to the Nano teams catastrophic handling of the Bitgrail crash.
>There are many other coins that are far better than Nano, with instant transactions, zero fees, near infinite scalability, near infinite decentralization, permissionlessness and trustlessness, 1 millionth the energy usage of Bitcoin [24][25][26]. Nano is an extremely risky investment [27]
>Posted some of the above questions on Nano subreddit. Got banned.
>Multiple pending and coming lawsuits against Nano devs personally and Nano foundation. Ugly truths about the Nano team, Nano devs and Bitgrail will come out [12][7]. It could lead to bankruptcy and a total shut down of the project.
>Anyone investing in this documented shitcoin deserves to lose their money. Nano is Bitconnect 2.0

FOOTNOTES:
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/982bq9/stress_test_beta_network_v15_results_in_here/
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/98alqy/why_isnt_stress_test_result_published_as_5700_tps/
[3] https://www.accenture.com/no-en/success-visa-connected-commerce-car
[4] https://www.ccn.com/vitalik-buterin-ethereum-will-eventually-achieve-1-million-transactions-per-second/
[5] http://archive.is/iq9fP
[6] https://nano.org/en/whitepaper
[7] http://archive.is/lDoCW
[8] http://archive.fo/v2noA
[9] https://news.kucoin.com/en/nano-deposits-and-withdrawals-are-now-enabled/
[10] https://medium.com/nanocurrency/weekly-nano-update-9-17-18-834f3a493994
[11] https://www.reddit.com/r/BinanceExchange/comments/9flnx5/is_nano_deposit_broken_someone_also_having/
[12] http://archive.is/dOMVA
[13] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanotrade/comments/7vwl86/what_are_the_faults_of_nano/dtvpymd/

>>28791994
[14] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/90wu2v/what_are_the_negative_things_with_nano/e2tskr8/
[15] https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_1ipx847tk8o46pwxt5qjdbncjqcbwcc1rrmqnkztrfjy5k7z4imsrata9est
[16] https://www.quora.com/Is-the-NANO-crypto-coin-a-working-product-If-so-what-advantage-does-it-have-over-on-other-crypto-coins
[17] http://archive.is/e7oVV
[18] http://archive.is/GvyPd
[19] https://www.nanode.co/representatives
[20] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/92b1at/how_does_nanos_dpos_compare_to_other_dpos_such_as/
[21] https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/8kt2ed/universal_block_canary_has_been_released/dzakb0a/
[22] >>11104923
[23] http://archive.is/DlNyk
[24] https://www.quora.com/What-are-crypto-currencies-you-are-bullish-on-for-the-next-bull-run/answer/Marius-Kramer
[25] https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-best-crypto-currency-to-buy-in-September-2018/answer/Marius-Kramer
[26] https://www.quora.com/What-makes-a-bad-crypto-currency/answer/Marius-Kramer
[27] https://youtu.be/JS9tJgbFTUA?t=27m27s [Embed]

>>28790375
You have no clue. I have never been in contact with Nano scammers outside one dev coming here and then running away when he couldn't answer questions and I got the whole Nano community flagging my comments. Nice.

I knew about the TPS lie from Nano pre-Bitgrail and got my assets/profit out. When the scam/crash happened, I had to watch people losing all their money, some talked about suicide and some very likely did commit suicide. I tried to help as many as I could and many wanted to organize donations etc but we got zero help from Nano Foundation. They kicked all discussion about Bitgrail from their plebbit page and refused to do anything to help the victims. There are numerous ways and technical solutions they could have done to help the victims and offset their losses. They did nothing and instead jumped into an orgy of hedonism, woke hard left hypocrisy and pushing hard for feminism/BLM/womenintech/globohomo etc. I am so disgusted. After that, the Bitgrail victims got scammed again by Nano Foundations dirty deal with Espen Enger, only to have Bitgrail victims scammed a third time when Espen Enger exit scammed with their donations.

To have these dirty Nano lefties running around lecturing other people about decency and morality is just disgusting. Pic.

>>28790375
>>28792473
It was well known in crypto community that Nano devs were lying through their teeth, pic and >>28787083

Are there mods here? We should delete every post NANO related just like cryptocurrency reddit mods do.

Nano’s relationship with BitGrail, their main trading platform, was incestuous and dirty from the very beginning. However, after “Bomber”, CEO of BitGrail found out that his exchange had been hacked for 80% of their Nano assets in October 2017, close to 10% of total supply of Nano, the relationship between Nano devs and BitGrail became criminal.

BITGRAIL PROBLEMS KNOWN BY NANO DEV TEAM PRIOR TO BITGRAIL CRASH
>Insolvency of BitGrail and missing 10 million nano, discovered and made public by the Nano community [1][2]
>Missing transactions on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [2][3]
>Single transactions replicated multiple times on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [4][3][5][6].
>Millions of Nanos moving out from BitGrail, when the exchange was closed for withdrawals, discovered and made public by the Nano community [7].
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to alleged ‘maintenance’.
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to ‘KYC’ excuse [8] [9]. Hundreds of thousands remained unverified [10].
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks, due to alleged ‘pending withdrawals’, which were never processed [11].
>Nano withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to node problems.
>Customer support ignores tickets - not just for days but for weeks [12]
>Bomber increasingly unhinged and psychotic. Insults his customers on social media for asking legitimate questions [12]. Nano community expressed concern to the Nano devs.

>>28793807
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES PRE-BITGRAIL CRASH (1 of 2)

>Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano, do arbitrage between exchanges. [13][7][14].
>Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano move assets to safety. Just one of these accounts handled 50million USD [13][7][14][15].
>Insider trading on BitGrail done via accounts connected to Nano Devs. Traded tens of millions of dollars [15].
>Nano dev team used incestuous relationship with Bomber to get instant KYC verification [16], impossible for standard Nano investors.
>Ordinary Nano investors accounts blocked from doing arbitrage, moving assets to safety or doing insider trading, unlike Nano dev team. Stuck with coming 80% loss [17].
>Zack Shapiro (Nano dev): Everything under control. Just too much work with KYC. Not insolvent. (statement made 4 days before BitGrail insolvent) [18].
>Zack Shapiro: No reason to worry, BitGrail doing normal KYC, “scams don’t do that” [19]
>Zack Shapiro: “Yes, you can [trust BitGrail]. I talk to Bomber every day and he’s a good guy. We’ll get it all sorted next week. Just hang in there” [20] [21]
>Zack Shapiro: Confirms BitGrail is a serious business. “Opposite of an exit scam actually” [22]
>Zack Shapiro: BitGrail is “Legitimate. Complying with the laws of their contry” [23]
>Zack Shapiro: “Funds are safe on Bitgrail…Again, funds are safe” [24][25]
>Mica Busch (Nano dev): ‘‘funds are safe, [BitGrails] representative account does not show any suspicious activity’’ [26]
>Nano: “Be assured that your funds are safe” [27][28]

>>28793880
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES PRE-BITGRAIL CRASH (2 of 2)

>Person who discovered and exposed 50million USD account being connected to Nano Dev team, got later banned from Nano subreddit [13].
>Nano community member who discovered/reported that nearly all nano on BitGrail was missing, was forced to delete initial post titled; ‘10 Million XRB Possibly Missing XRB From BitGrail’ [2] and repost under different headline ‘I need some help with tracing funds’ [1].
>Nano team systematically deleted threads of investors’ concerns and the sharing of new information regarding BitGrail [4].
>Nano dev team confirmed knowing about all BitGrail problems, told investors to relax, and promised a thorough investigation [29][30][28]. ‘Developers are taking care of that’ [31].

>>28793962
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES POST-BIGRAIL CRASH

>Nano Dev team claimed to do all they could to investigate and find missing Nano. No update since. Nothing done. [32]
>Nano community did all the work, themselves researching/investigating. [33][34][35] [32][41].
>BitGrail victim group representative, Espen Enger met with Nano lawyer Josh Kleiman in Italy [36]. Details of the deal made with the Nano team is not made known to the BitGrail victims.
>After meeting between Enger and Kleiman all criticism of Nano Dev team became banned on BitGrail victim discord [37].
>Change in BitGrail victim group management. Protection of Nano Dev team and suddenly non BitGrail victims used as hostile mods on BitGrail victim group discord [38].
>Don’t be surprised if Enger gets millions, and/or cushy job at Nano when all this is over. As a big thank you from the shady Nano team.
>Multiple pending and coming lawsuits against Nano foundation and Nano team members. Outside the original BitGrail victim group, now Discord BitGrail/WebCoin Lawsuit [39][40].

>>28793880
is there any thred you don't shit up , lmao.

>>28794028
Footnotes to the above Nano -BitGrail Crash (and Nano dev team involvement) –1 of 2

[1] https://archive.is/8mMEU
[2] https://archive.is/LUN33
[3] https://archive.is/V30nG
[4] https://archive.is/pk03o
[5] https://prnt.sc/ilv1gl
[6] https://prnt.sc/ilv0p6
[7] https://archive.is/Wkgvn
[8] https://bitsonline.com/raiblocks-nano-bitgrail-epic-fail/
[9] https://archive.is/CKs1V
[10] https://imgur.com/a/rOn3Seb
[11] https://archive.is/RW944
[12] https://archive.is/DM6Nl
[13] https://archive.is/acLnr
[14] https://imgur.com/a/Owlui
[15] https://archive.is/pC3vC
[16] https://imgur.com/a/mJMhlx3
[17] http://archive.is/86eDr
[18] https://imgur.com/a/aFYpDyk
[19] https://imgur.com/a/KNg2src
[20] https://imgur.com/a/o8lIwDz

imagine being so upset

>>28794106
Footnotes – part 2 of 2

[21] https://imgur.com/a/urpgzwv
[22] https://imgur.com/a/G7fgqWV
[23] https://imgur.com/a/4YcVEji
[24] https://imgur.com/a/IWP2thd
[25] https://imgur.com/a/rFV6BJy
[26] https://archive.is/bfd0Y
[27] https://imgur.com/a/ql0cjLP
[28] https://archive.is/dykfh
[29] https://i.imgur.com/ddzQlVw.jpg
[30] https://i.imgur.com/7xwM1Lx.jpg
[31] https://i.imgur.com/e8n7fWo.jpg
[32] https://archive.is/lTCkP
[33] https://archive.is/o1BmU
[34] https://archive.is/8Md3N
[35] https://archive.is/f4Q8E
[36] https://youtu.be/40aufi9oJno?t=10m16s [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
[37] https://imgur.com/a/gQmoQv0
[38] https://imgur.com/a/d8xG4QL
[39] https://archive.is/MbWv1
[40] Google: silvermillerlaw com 2018/04/2018-4-6-DE-1-CLASS-ACTION-COMPLAINT-1
[41] https://archive.is/0R8Qe

>>28794106
how does it feel that despite your autistic efforts nano is still going up massively?

classic fud keep it up guys

>>28794232
You are going up because you are pushing this lie:
>>28786245
>>28786359
>>28786359
Within 48 hours the Nano lie will again be exposed and known in the market, so Nano will crash down as always. You scammers and your shitcoin are so predictable.

Hello there, I am Nano dev Zack Shapiro. Hope you Nano fans enjoyed me dumping my million heavy bags on your heads, while Nano was crashing, the very bags I got out from Bitgrail while you were stuck and tried to get your "KYC" from Bomber (lol). Take that as a lesson schmucks, don't listen to guys on the internet, like me, when doing financial decisions. Pic is me before you gave me my millions of $$. Aaaah, life is gooOOooOod. L'chaim!

>>28794513
You can trust us Nano devs. lol. This is me tweeting 4 days before BitGrail exploded. Enough time for us Devs and our buddies to get all our own stuff out. We managed to move millions of our sexy Nannis out when BitGrail was down for "maintenance" and closed for you "normal" people, Bombers KYC bullshit, etc, i.e. idiots who are not insiders. Sucks to be you. lol. In addition I had to tweet like crazy to the small people, the ungrateful Nano "investors" that were pestering us all the time with their, *whiny voice* "I have 8.3 Nano and I am so worried Zack, please help me". Worst part living in America is dealing with white people. They will never be winners. And they lost. lol. Peace out to all fellow Naniites!

fud more so i can accumulate pls

pajeet youre my only hope

>The Tragic Story of Espen Enger

Nano Foundation and Espen Enger have a very shady and dark history before Espen Enger decided to exit scam with the Bitgrail Victim's money:

>Nano's core dev Shapiro, despite knowing about Bitgrail's problems did multiple times publicly endorse Bitgrail and encouraged people to invest and convinced them to stay in, to not sell their Bitgrail.
>Tens of thousands of people who would have got out ended up losing everything because of this.
>There were people who committed suicide as a consequence of this
>While key Nano dev Shapiro was telling concerned investors not to worry (as normal investors had their accounts and ability to withdraw frozen) the Nano devs and their friends were withdrawing and funneling out tens of millions of dollars, both before and after the "hack" was publicly known
>These are the people Espen Enger sold out to and banned Bitgrail victims from criticising.

Espen Enger
>Enger promised 100% transparency and to fight for the interests of the Bitgrail victims
>Very soon he had a meeting with Nano foundations lawyer - the outcome and contents of the meeting remain a secret to date.
>Soon after the meeting with Nano Foundation, he got non Bitgrail mods to monitor discord and ban/silence any actual Bitgrail victims who were critical of the Nano devs and the Nano team’s involvement
>Espen Enger said that he just "knew" that the Bitgrail victims had no legal case against Nano Foundation, so he decided to protect the Nano Foundation
>Nano foundation still won’t answer questions regarding (a) what the meeting with Espen Enger was about (b) how much money they paid him and (c) what happened to the money

>It is now clear that Espen Enger had a dirty deal to protect Nano Foundation, exit scammed, lost 100 BTC due to bad trades, and then committed suicide
Espen Børke Enger site:https://jolstad.vareminnesider.no/

>Nano and Bitgrail leaders scammed over $100 million from Bitgrail Nano and Bitgrail leaders scammed over $100 million from Bitgrail

While both Nano and Bitgrail leaders told nano investors that Bitgrail was safe and not compromised, http://archive.is/dOMVA, they themselves took all their assets, over $100 million, and moved it as fast as hell away from Bitgrail, hiding their assets, while telling everyone that Bitgrail was OK and perfectly safe. This is why neither Nano dev team, nor Bitgrail, have done any kind of investigation who stole the money, where are stolen Nanos now, where are the thief. Firstly they just don't care, they are now rich, secondly there is too much criminal activity from both sides that none of them want to be investigated and exposed. They prefer darkness, secrecy and that all their crimes will just fade away. This will not happen. Multiple lawsuits are pending and coming. Nano tech is flawed and does not function under pressure, http://archive.is/Vva8Z, Nano is Bitconnect 2.0

>>28794894
Colin dumped millions of xrb in May from private wallets when there was Nano Binance Competition (100kk+ USD VOL.)
He chose a good moment for send to Binance. Who gives a dam about Nano and Bitgrail's victims who suffered a stolen.
Guess they had some special developer donation account before actual one which exists now.
I'll explain you so maybe you'll figure out.

Old developer donation account:
https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_3wm37qz19zhei7nzscjcopbrbnnachs4p1gnwo5oroi3qonw6inwgoeuufdp

The first address that recieved a nano from Old Developer Donation was this:
https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_3pg6xswkroybxydyzaxybb1h531sx34omiu7an9t9jy19f9mca7a36s7by5e
(Colin's account)

https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_3pg6xswkroybxydyzaxybb1h531sx34omiu7an9t9jy19f9mca7a36s7by5e
(Colin's account connected to the old developer donation account)

2. https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_11iaqa1oppdxzawrbuzh4m5y78i9zngnhwp8urpup97fsf7k8e84gf61ei75
(Colin's private wallet)

3. https://www.nanode.co/account/xrb_31kxdcjafw5k5w4u3h9uo7yctkawcjkegnwaqjr1jqq3tanu8bp6m4obru7a
(Colin's private wallet)

2. and 3. are connected to the 1.

https://www.nanode.co/block/BE548A457F28A42119FB22373303690DAB5F40811E4E87643A15267827D6C138
This is the first transaction when old developer donation account sent to this account back in 2016.

Picture is from 02.12.2017
https://i.imgur.com/KEwsZsY.jpg

Imagine being so autistic as to post the same shit for 3 years, and still be poor. Pajeet you need to get off the internet.

>>28794661
Sorry dude, Nano is a kitchen table project by amateurs and fanatics. Colin was working part time, alone, on the project until the Italians scammers started to push XRB on you delusional idiots. Nano crashes constantly, are not being able to even go over a couple of hundred TPS per second, D grade shitcoin according to Weiss, not part of cryptos mentioned by ICE (Bakkt), not on Coinbase, insane cost model that will never work in real life, no cost analysis, no real use. Do you even have more than a handful individual users for your "global" currency actually buying stuff? As you have nothing more than being a currency, unlike ETH with smart contracts etc. Nano is a boomer coin, a true plebbit coin that will not function in real life.

Nano will thank you for contributing financially to push out white males from tech and promote Women and People of Color. Pic related. Remember fellow plebbitor, Meritocracy is RACIST!!!

>>28789781
Nano is a crashed coin with a broken system. The very basis for Nano network is that people will run the whole system for free, for all eternity, all the time, with no downtime, or the Nano network will crash. Can any of you nano "investors guarantee that? The integrity of your network is solely based upon people that will work for maybe thousands of hours for free and pay tens of millions in costs for nodes, bandwith for free, for all eternity? How insane, delusional and away from real life is that?

1. For a global currency with micro-payments, 100 000 TPS is the very bare minimum. What's Nano's current TPS? You claimed 7 000 TPS in DEC 2017. Pic. Is it now not a little over 10% of what you promised in 2017? Nano is such an obvious scam.

2. What is the total costs of Nano network with 100 000 TPS (CPU, IO and bandwith) , that you believe people will do for free for no reason. How many tens of millions? You have no clue do you? Same with Nano Foundation. Zero cost analysis. How amateurish and pathetic is that?

>>28788155
So how large a portion of the initial Nano distribution did Colin and his friends have? 60%? 70%? Any question regarding hard data related to Nano's initial distribution will get you insta-banned on discord, plebbit etc. They moved millions around on Bitgrail, both before and after bankruptcy. Colin refuses to answer any questions and giving empirical data regarding distribution, and he and his friends have been dumping Nano into oblivion since Jan 2017

Colin said he would release a financial statement for Nano Foundation some months ago. Of course, he lied. At least he now is saying a big fuck you to the desperate and moronic Nano community publicly. He is using Nano Foundation's money in private lawsuits, slushing money to George Coxon - buying her crashed companies and paying corruption money to Espen Enger, so he would protect them from any lawsuit from the Bitgrail Victim group.

>>28795046
>and still be poor.
You have no clue. You fucked up Nanoids are so delusional. Worst community in crypto by far, pic related.

>>28795275
god you sound so jealous and desperate.

I'm buying more Nano in your name Paj

>>28795510
Pretty easy to understand why you love Nano scamcoin so much. Pic related.

Nano supports tranny rights

#walnutsauce #TrannyRights #BLM #WokeNano #LoveIsLove #RoughAnalSexYAY

>>28785255
this coin is run by a woman. For that reason alone I will never buy

I cant believe this coin is still listed when they hired an actual 0 IQ e-thot as a Chief while having no experience at all.

Sent her on paid trips around the world from the Nano fund. All expenses paid, courtesy of Nano holders.

Powerful.

Nano stands with Saiful Islam against white racism in the West.

#BLM #NoWhiteAmerica #Diversity #Solidarity #OpenBordersNOW #Antifa #POCAmerica #POCEurope #NANO #SmashAfash #JIHAD

I don't really give a fuck about the fud. I got a fat fucking stack and I'll be flying around in that private jet with that red haired bizcotti.

>90 replies
>50 posts by this ID

Nano are such a bunch of scammers, they stole huge amounts of money from Bitgrail victims and never suffered any consequences.

That aside though, they do not care about their investors. When Colin got feedback from his investors being unhappy about useless golddigger George (who he gave the job to because she lets him bang her), he doubled down, gave them the middle finger and made her COO, a completely unqualified bimbo (who has never done a honest days work in her life and spends investors money flying helicopters, staying in 5 star hotels and resorts) what a joke, what a insult, and they do.not.care.
Just on principle and justice, Nano deserves to burn.

Pic. Without qualifications to work in tech, and without tech experience or even a history of hard work anywhere, via her vagina and Colin banging her George became "COO" and they are here on a yacht enjoying life... this is all with investors money, thanks to investors... while giving the middle finger to investors who have any criticism.

>>28796858
From nano? LOL. Hilarious.
What do you think happens once all the fake little mastercard hype you and your cult shilled, dies down?
Nano will never be used anywhere as a serious crypto.

>>28785255
>>28785987
oh hey don't know this coin, is this the grimes coin?? if so i'm buying

>>28797191
cuck coin

Oh no oh no, normies waking up to fake scam hype. Why is this thread not being replied to but 100s of posts in other threads created since?

Nano: BLACK LIVES MATTER, - WHITE NAZI NATIONALIST BIGOTS!!

Pic. With a supportive comment from Nano's black diversity hire, Naome Jone

>>28797107
Ima let Colin bang this one

>>28797728
Nano diversity hire

>>28797689
Bro, that mastercard shit has been shilled since this morning. I don't care a single fuck about that. Reminds me of sad shilling like dragonchain & disney, link and google, whatever and mcdonalds, etc. etc. Yeah, people get hyped up about retarded shit. Again, fud aside, and maybe its all true, I still don't give a shit. Nano is getting pumped as fuck. look at the weekly. I've already made a shit load.

The rest is just blah blah blah....

>>28797866
Well, this is no fun, I think the cultists have already run back to r/nanotrade.. :(

>>28797831
Yeah, not great looking, but it seems not being obese, and also having North European looks/genes (e.g. blue eyes, red or blonde hair etc.) seems to be enough in this society.
...but yeah, you're right, not exactly stunning, just plain/average, but as I said, not obese, red hair, good in edited photos and British accent... so I guess that's enough.

>>28798170
True. They always run the hell away, totally unable to defend their team and utter shitcoin. Pic related.