/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28751865
cheapies cheapies, its a fire sale :D

>>28751865
I always try to diversify by investing in other crypto projects, but as soon as make some profit, I sell and put everything in XMR. My logical reasoning points to it being a clear winner long term.

>>28752023
My based methcoin wouldn't abandon me right?

>>28751865
lol in a previous thread I asked if people thought monero would dip back down and everybody told me that it was never coming back down. you guys almost honest to god convinced me to buy in. luckily I knew that XMR was for slow profit and not fast gains, so I decided to wait
still buying btw, just waiting for it to go back down

What's the long-term regulatory landscape look like in the US? What if some congressmen get riled up about evil KYC and AML? Obviously once your money is into XMR it's untraceable, but is there any risk or plausible deniability for people who get into XMR now, through a KYC exchange?

Why is this not on binance.us?

>>28752258
>everybody told me that it was never coming back down.
We're still going to experience a lot of volatility. The smart plan is to think long term. So, yeah. But don't wait too much because if the bull runs too fast you might up holding a bunch of useless fiat instead of pristine monero ;)

>>28752422
>is there any risk or plausible deniability for people who get into XMR now, through a KYC exchange?
There's a ton of services accepting monero, from internet services to physical stores. There are many reasons you might want to buy monero.
https://www.getmonero.org/community/merchants/

>>28752424
Who knows, maybe it's their financial partners in the US. Kraken has offered a USD pair for Monero for many years now and they have absolutely zero issues. I greatly recommend using Kraken -- the only OG exchange still up and running with zero security incidences. Also, they like and support Monero.

>>28752424
It's on Voyager, no transfers. Im not entirely sure if you own your coins on it.

>>28752258
The entire market went down. Sat-wise it is still stable and severely undervalued.

>>28751865
this is one of the only large cryptos I'm not in but really love from afar.

When to get in Nibbas?

Wait for the inevitable market correction in 6months-1 year?

Any good cheap miners that I could get in on?

I know the EU and US are literally hiring any contractors that can break the privacy on Monero and they can't.

>>28752194
are you me

>>28752866
when it dipped from 250 to 200 today.

>>28752763
I would still be on Voyager if not for that, what’s the point of XMR if you can’t use it?

>>28752424
Good question!

Where can I buy this with just a credit card and not be raped by fees

>>28751865
>>28752194
>>28752667
>>28753370
HOW MUCH XMR FOR MONERO CHAN TO BE REAL?

>>28752866
>Wait for the inevitable market correction in 6months-1 year?
Usually I'd recommend doing so, but I'm not so sure what's going to happen on this very bull run that we are experiencing. Institutions are entering, BTC is getting popular and recognized by the mainstream... I think it's gonna be harder to dump the price. There are a lot more buyers now.

>>28753435
>Where can I buy this with just a credit card and not be raped by fees
Credit card usually means raped by fees. Try buying BTC with it and buy XMR with BTC later.

>>28753067
Based on price history it looks like anything sub 100= definite buy, 150-250=maybe dollar cost average? and 300+ looks like a good price to wait for a dip

>>28753527
Ehh I think I'll go with Kraken then. How long does it take to be verified? Been a waiting a few days now.

>>28753525
Maybe 1 or 2 XMR in 10 years. At that point custom android waifus will exist, but the government will ban them due to SJW pressure, so the only way of getting them will be by buying at the dark net using Monero.

>>28751865
took my shitcoin wins and dopped them on XMR just now, Got a solid 4 coins. LOL

>>28754001
Based. I can't wait

Do you guys recommend changelly and such for getting XMR or do you have to go through an exchange like Kraken?

look it might sound morbid to say, but in the crypto sphere, the endorsement of smack dealers and CP producers is bullish to say the least

Who created monero?

>>28754279
changelly will lock your funds in KYC hell if you try to convert very much at once. I tried doing 1 BTC worth back when BTC was like $10k and they locked my shit down for two weeks.

Kraken doesn't support my state so I had to use kucoin. The volume sucks but they've never given me any shit depositing or withdrawing.

just mine it you lazy shits you have a fucking computer so start xmrig and support the network

>>28754279
Any exchange that has it and will let you transfer to a wallet works. Non-KYC may be preferable depending on where you live
>>28754691
A guy that goes by Fluffypony

>>28754691
satoshi

>>28752258
I mentioned it would prob go down. Just be careful with waiting forever since if you always keep waiting for a better deal you will never buy.

Fun fact: the last time XMR was at $250 prior to yesterday was 1019 days ago

>>28754935
fluffypony only maintained it, he didn't create it

how are my XMR chads feeling with this predictable retrace? Seems super bullish that we didn't even touch 200

>>28754835
I just wanted to convert my 18 XMR suicide stack

>>28751865
If i buy btc off coonbase and use bisq to get monero wont that be traceable that I own monero at least

>>28754691
Who created monero?
Great question, I will give you the origin of monero on a plate.

>>28754935
>A guy that goes by Fluffypony
No. He's a core member and was the maintainer. People mistaken him as being the creator because he's popular on twitter. Monero has multiple core members (some anonymous, some not) who act as stewards of the project.

This is the lovely and very interesting story of Monero, created by an unknown person who went by thankful_for_today on BitcoinTalk, a fork of Bytecoin which was the first implementation of the brand new CryptoNote protocol. Lots of people don't know that Monero uses a different code base than Bitcoin.
https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=740112.0

>>28754835
Just to confirm, it is pants-on-head retarded to keep any significant amount of XMR in an exchange, right? Since they could pull it any day?

>>28755026
>>28755338
My b, his pseudonym is certainly the most memorable though
>>28755045
I'm feeling extremely comfy, thanks for asking!
>>28755533
The whole point of Monero is privacy. Exchanges are the least private place you could possibly store it. Also, crypto exchanges have a history of disappearing, but they're better these days

>>28755786
So, KYC exchange --> XMR --> some other address that definitely does not belong to me?

>>28751865

anyone else use cakewallet here? Any reason not to use it

>>28755866
Yeah, that's likely good enough. People will be able to find out you bought it, but will not know which wallet it went to

>>28756220
So suppose I buy $1000 of Monero, move to another address. it moons, then the US bans it. My options then are...? Plausible deniability that I still possess said XMR?

>>28755786
>comfy.png
literally me

XMRBTC looks like it is in Phase D of the Wyckoff Accumulation. This is a very good entry point for Longs.

https://tradingcenter.org/index.php/learn/technical-analysis/329-wyckoff-method

>>28756446
You'll probably be ok unless you spill your private keys. Your IP could also be tracked if you're not running a node while doing your transactions. You should probably check this out if you want to find out more about the best practices.
https://www.monerooutreach.org/monero_best_practices/

>>28756053
Cakewallet is probably good if you're actually trading crypto IRL. If you just plan on holding monero and not selling/trading, you should just go with the desktop GUI and download the blockchain.
>Any reason not to use it
If there's any spyware on your phone then the privacy that monero provides will be compromised to some extent, whether it's the NSA that can see your wallet amount or some hacker who bugged your phone to steal your shit.

>>28756446
If we're not able to sell monero on major exchanges in the future, then we can use smaller exchanges like localmonero to swap it for BTC, which we can then sell on major exchanges (also, atomic swaps are in the works for monero).

>>28757574
It does seem like a decentralized currency would benefit from decentralized exchanges. I'll have to read up on atomic swaps

>>28757574

There's spyware in literally everything though, both intel and AMD have backdoors, apple and android definitely do and even if they didn't then the apps you download all need permission to access everything before you use them.

>>28751865
XMR is broken, use 0xMR

>>28758535
nope. 0xmonero is still vaporware bullshit
just like the last hundred times you spammed it
stop trying to steal from people by lying to them about the capabilities of the project
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMoonShots/comments/i27fhk/0xmonero_summary_of_findings/
>>/biz/thread/S24750658#p24755504

>>28758535
You are broken from taking cock after cock after cock. Poo in loo filthy reeking pajeet.

>>28758535
this post smells like the fucking ganges

>>28758570
You've already been debunked

>>28752424
Because American boomers fear any technology that could let their kids not have shitty lives.

>>28758975
>You've already been debunked
sure
i'm sure everyone finds this very convincing

>>28758975
>You've already been debunked

>>28752194
I just put about 65% of my mooned monero into link. If its a relatively small investment do you think thats wiser long term?

>>28759781
no

>>28754691
>>28754935
>>28754950
>>28755026
>>28755338
Wrong.
I’m the one who created Monero
AMA

>>28760016
Do you like BLACKED?

>>28760016
give me xmr

>>28760255
Yes I watch it thrice a day
>>28760515
Give address

>>28760608
4BJjgmrTYjRWDPmBZhuSX6bbo7txFZDk9BgFerUrSJTB48AjPSoKzwjQs5sWz8J9En5Xtu7oS5R5wdJrmp3v3zp9VmkP1Me

>>28760705
>not using a subadress for 4chin gibs
ngmi

>>28760705

JANNIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS

wait I just responded to a beggar and all of that is gone.

I guess thanks jannies

How many to make it in 2030?

>>28762760

Unknown amount

>>28755045
feeling good, just bought a little bit more

>>28762760
100

>>28755188
same except i transfer to a non kyc exchange that i used a non kyc email, all using vpn. i love the idea of bisq but honestly it seemed a little bit of effort and i'm not sure how much volume they have in there. don't want to wait too long. regardless, we might have to use bisq in the future if xmr gets delisted