/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28740394
Tesla has become a cult so does it really matter?

>>28740394
Always has been, dingus.

>>28740394
Watch Thunderf00t, basically his criptonyite.

>>28740471
True. Apple is a fucking cult.

He might be, but the people he convinces to slave for him are real and so is their work. Imagine having the charisma to persuade someone to work 60+ hours a week for stock options, impressive really.

>>28740561
How exactly though. Please I'm stupid.

Maybe... But he is the richest fraud youll never meet

>i preordered this beautiful bullshit idfc

>>28740579
>this fat retard on youtube has common sense!
Shut up faggot all billionaires are fucking frauds. Most people with more than 5m in the bank are, too. Everybody should know this by now.

>>28740394
yup

>>28740394
he is a fag

>>28740394
He's a real cool guy, friend

lol
He literally tweeted
>hey whales, what do you think about dumping your bags at ATH to normie retards?
They waited for nothing else.

>>28740394
>no, no, no, you filthy deplorables can't have someone on your side!!

>>28740723
>common sense
The dude actually knows what he's talking about, unlike you

>>28740394
he makes rockets that blow up and shitty cars, kek

>>28740394
Ya'll aware that if he is the mysterious Doge megawhale he owns more USD in Doge than his company does in BTTC by about 2X right?

>>28740663
>beautiful

It looks fucking stupid. Seriously.

He tries to come across as a maverick like Tony Stark but he's too autistic.

>>28742040
It looks like fuck you, and that's what makes it so beautiful

>>28740656
tesla's p/e ratio is 1300
a normal company has a p/e ratio of 20

>>28742394
>p/e
A what now

>>28741769
He's not he is waiting for doge to go down then he'll pump it to a real currency.

>>28742040
wrong

>>28740394
Only s o i b o i s believe in this retard. He is the god of plebbit, afterall. You need to go back if you wanna workship him.

>>28742468
just go back already

>>28742468
Price to earnings ratio

It means tesla is overvalued. Heavily.

>>28740656
hes like Steve Jobs in that he convinced govts to give him billions bc his "product" helped society in some way. Jobs ripped off grade schools and colleges with decades long contracts for them to buy apple products. musk ripped off govts on the "green energy" hype bullshit and his space shit.

musk basically played the business game right which is you go to the guy with the biggest bank account (govts) and ask them for billions

if btc dont go to 100k by the end of the year yes

>>28740394
no

>>28741387
He knows how to pander to incels
Clearly

>>28740656
He makes promises constantly with out having any appreciation for what it's going to take to meet them.

For example with Tesla he though he could hire a bunch of cell phone engineers to build a car because in his mind cell phones are difficult and cars are easy. As we can see they are still struggling with how to build a car.

With SpaceX the entire industry has looked at reuse, run the numbers and it does not make sense which is why there has been no development in that regard. AFAIK SpaceX still hasn't declared that they are hitting their cost estimated, just that they will at some point in the future.

He's a billionaire who inherited an emerald mine and used the money to buy up key tech or pay other people to work on tech. He now spends a small fortune on marketing so that he can publicly larp as a brilliant inventor and entrepreneur.

So fraud? Not exactly. Deceptive? Absolutely. Miserable? That'd be my guess.

>>28740656
Look up behind the bastards elon musk on youtube, 2.5 hours of cringe

>>28742222
>It looks like fuck you, and that's what makes it so beautiful
Yeah I bet this is what the star wars kid though too

>>28741387
great new vid btw thunderfagg00t

>>28740663
Looks like the lunar rover. Have fun overpaying for a low quality vehicle that is going to get you laughed at behind your back.

>>28740394
Literally playing out of her (his) playbook. See how that turned out.

>>28740394
Cassandra is shorting him for a reason

>>28743721
So the blueprint for inventors from more than a century ago that we still invoke today, got it.

>>28740996
Do you guys think it's whales dumping, or normies getting out because they think they're about to get dumped on? I'm inclined to believe the latter. When will Elon be held accountable for his market manipulation?

>>28743721
not super hard to fact check that nonsense. whenever you're ready.

>>28743994
When it doesn't reward his long term investors I bet

>>28742222
Quads checked, retards itt will be seething and saying tesla hides midget in the front to steer the car when full autopilot comes out

>>28743956
>So the blueprint for inventors from more than a century ago that we still invoke today, got it.
Nikola Tesla was the real deal though

>>28742040
its steel plated to protect my feelings

>>28742394
Kek at least you can calculate it now that they actually have some earnings. That ROI has to be one of the worst in history. And just wait until the other auto manufacturers enter the EV space in earnest.

Would you?

>>28743801
thats a weird comparison model you use in your head
is that the injected kind of autism?

Not a fraud, but definitely a con man. Not really surprising, he is a welfare capitalist after all.

>>28743841
>laughed at behind your back.
by people stuck in the previous century

>>28744123
Not the EV, Rocket, Mars guy though, right?

>>28743717
>hitting their cost estimated
that is spaceX only goal
listen to this smart man

>>28743841
>you laughed at behind your back.
well good thing its steel plated
words cant penetrate that

>>28740394
He relies on government funding and his company is overvalued, Michael Burry is shorting tesla and he's probably right.

NOO NOT THE HECKIN MUSKETEERS

he's based, reddit fags who larp as 4channers hate him because he named the jew

>>28744103
ive proved it to you before, and I'll prove it to you again, you fucking kike.

go suck his cock if you love him so much

https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came-to-own-an-emerald-mine-2018-2

next thing you'll tell me he didn't take billions from tax payers

>>28743717
>For example with Tesla he though he could hire a bunch of cell phone engineers to build a car because in his mind cell phones are difficult and cars are easy.
How can he be this retarded?
There roadside shops in China that will build you a custom phone in under a minute.
Has he even resolved the issue of exploding Lithium batteries yet?

>>28744559
>reddit spacing
>business insider
big oof

>>28744515
>One comment that doesn't actually name the Jew
"HE'S BASED GUYS, LOOOOOK!!!"

>>28743994
whales thinking theyre clever and calling his bluff. they spent billions trying to short btc to 25k but they got btfo. the only thing the whales accomplished was selling chreap btc to people much richer

>>28744765
go back u fucking faggot

Does anyone have the picture of the mexican bogdanoff that people ran through that 3d face transformer?

>>28743925
Yep

>>28744159
but 1300 is a higher number than 20

>>28746092
Look at the ratio.
Earnings is the denominator, which means
>Big number = overvalued
or at least no major return yet on the insane amount of money investors have poured into Tesla.

>>28740394
>Is he really a fraud?
he's a cumstain yes

>>28740394
It's his turn to be the bad boy on twitter and say vaguely controversial things while being a pied piper to millions of basedboys who base their every trade off his tweets.

>>28742394
>he thinks P/E ratio means anything in this market
ngmi

>>28740656
Read his biography. The man should never have been allowed to get to where he is. Only in America do you get away with shit like that.

>>28740723
> they’re richer than me thus they all cheated!

Kys faggot

>>28740583
bitcoin, also a cult
Invest in cults?

>>28740394

>>28744877
>go back u fucking faggot
go back where im not the one from reddit

>>28743498
You’re ignoring the fact that his P/E ratio is high because of high future earnings expectations. His earnings are low because he literally spends every penny he makes expanding the business. He’s trying to do to cars what Jeff Bezos did to online shopping.

>>28748052
Then he better start producing some cars for a profit quick, in a few years Chinese companies will have total control on this market.

Legit
----
Tesla
Powerwall
Solar roofs
Spacex
Starlink

Less legit
---
Boring company
Flamethrowers
Short Shorts
The Hypertube

>>28748135
>in a few years Chinese companies will have total control on this market.

Nah. Cathie Wood disagrees

>>28748924
Do you think subsidies will keep him afloat once electric cars become available?

Same for cheap chinese rockets.

I own a Tesla 3 and love it. Have a deposit on the Cybertruck and can't wait.

>>28740663
I want one, but I'm also worried mechanics will have no idea wtf they are doing if it ever breaks down

>>28744285
Nikola Tesla personally introduced the foundational concepts that the modern world runs on.

Elon pretends to be an engineer while he has tech industry washouts build him shitty cars, shitty rockets and he says something about Mars every couple of months to keep people like you under his spell.

My brother who works at Tesla just told me he over heard Elon and the team talking about buying a few mines in the upcoming months to secure rare earth metals needed for the next gen of batteries. My brother said something about Canada Nickel Company and manganese x. I don't have a trading platform but he advised me to get one asap and buy shares in the company and to hold for 90 days. Might just dip my toes.

Do what you want with this information

>>28747436
that's literally what it is yeah, the ones with the largest following will do best

>>28749296
It's embarrassing how low IQ you are. Stay mad at life because you'll never make it

>>28743841
>overpaying
Cheaper than most US pickups

>>28740394
i think he's a chink agent desu

imagine being born a bald ugly manlet and you become rich and powerful just because your parents were rich and owned emerald mines and now everybody sucks your cock because you got plastic surgery

>>28749965
he's 6'2 I thought.

>>28740583
>electric cars are literally IMPOSSIBLE
>elon's reuseable rockets have been DEBUNKED
That faggot is to musk as colbert is to trump.

>>28750030
He was 5'8" originally, he got height surgery along with his plastic surgery to be 5'11" and he wears platform shoes for an extra 3". He's a complete fraudster hack. And that's a good thing.

>>28749522
Sounds interestig where can i buy?

>>28743721
None of his companies spend money on marketing.

>>28743925
Wait what happened to the rest of burrys tweets? He used to spam tweets all day, now they are all gone

>>28740394
He's a lunatic

>>28740663
where are the side mirrors?

>>28740394
When Apple comes out with an EV, Tesla is over. Apple will have superior software and battery tech and they are smart enough to leave the manufacturing to the automotive industry with decades of experience

>>28750145
Source? Srs.

He did a 3hoyr interview a few days ago. Watch it, make your own opinion. This thread is full of nonsense

>>28740394
Partially

> SpaceX - works and makes money but doesn't do much more or cost much than other rocketry technology (10% cheaper at best)
> Tesla - works and makes money but is WAAAAAY overvalued and the batteries are still nowhere near as efficient or better for the environment as fossil fuels.
> Hyperloop - Doesn't work and never will. May morph into regular bullet trains after right of way secured.
> The Boring Company - Doesn't work and never will and the proposed tunneling tech is no cheaper than existing tech.

Just watch this. https://youtu.be/4TxkE_oYrjU

>>28753985
spacex's problem is they keep calculating the telemetry for the rockets on the assumption that the earth is round
elon will get blunted one day and tell an engineer to launch the next rocket on the assumption that the earth is flat for the lulz and it will work perfectly.

>>28743994
normies don't even know what a dump is

>>28754122
>He doesn't know about the polar globe

>>28752172
Just look at the man, look at pictures of him before he got rich. There are pictures of him standing next to people who are verified to be 5'9" and they were taller than him.

>>28753985
Pretty much this. Of all of the GREAT GENIUS IDEAS, only Tesla actually seems long term viable. He did however manage to create a brand cult unheard of since Steve Jobs.
Some of the shit he comes up with, like the electric A320 competitor, is just laughably stupid

>>28751662
Its a fucking tesla. Side mirrors probably replaced by cameras.

>>28740394

Depends what you think his job is.

>>28749522
No way. My Dad also works at Nintendo.

>>28740663
Looks like it was designed by a 6 year old that just learned how to use a ruler.

>>28740579
Fuck this atheist cock sucking faggot