/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28579497
Once exchanges open up for business, yes in the short term

>>28579497
waronrugs on twitter just called it a scam

>>28579590
Who isn't open yet?

I hope not but if so I am sorry

>>28579831
You mean two days ago, the post about the outage

Preparing for another x5 run. I could be wrong

As a dev I can only say it's vaporware. The code itself is horrible. Like most Golang coders, they don't understand how to properly handle errors. It's horrible. Other than that, there are literally no libraries for AVAX except for 1 Typescript library. No C, C#, Java, or Rust. Not even fucking Python.

I love the Fud, drop your bags you filthy casuals! I will buy the dip haha

>>28580407
>>28580335
>>28579497

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>>28580366
>Java, C#, /g/ meme
No wonder you're poor.

How does it solve state bloat?
At 5000 tps and lets say 32 bytes written per tx, that's 160kB added to the blockchain every second or 5 terabytes every year.

>>28580670
Im actually an F# dev and we're one of the best paid devs. If there was a C# lib I could actually work on something but since there isn't..Avax has nothing but clueless normie shills like yourself.

>>28580803
>Im actually
I don't care lmao. All I know is you're poor

>>28580670
>>28580803
Go back to your cage, wagie.

>>28580702
It doesn't which is why it completely failed.

Someone posted a thread about the avax creator arguing with ETH devs and "pwning" the ETH devs. Looks like me and the ETH devs were right all along LMAO

>>28580858
He's the wagie, not me. He actually uses C# too and tries to shit on people. lmao

>>28580839
>>28580670
>>28580858

I hope you'll be happy with the heavy turkroach bags when they rugpull next week

>>28580913
see sharp bants

>>28580958
Screenshoted, wax my shoes while you're down there.

>>28580702
holy shit is that true?
to be a validator do I need to buy terabytes every year?

>>28579497
> solves a lot of issues
> people find 1 issue with it
> gets fixed
> people complain it doesn't solve another issue
> they have money in 'dogecoin' 'rub' 'mcd' and other shit coins

No pleasing you people even with the nearly 5x gain in a week.Enjoy being priced out, I'll sit with my nice 500 stack

I was initially skeptical, but after finding a way to get some avax and get into the ecosystem. This is 100% the fastest and cheapest method ever. Was able to swap some Eth to avax to png to link and put them all into liq pools on pangolin in less than 3 minutes total. I look forward to the ava-eth bridge opening back up in a few days so we can continue the moon mission.

>>28580913
As I said I mainly work with F# but could you tell me what's wrong with C#? I'm all ears.

>>28581021
You'll be the one waxing my BNB & CAKE shoes once the rug is pulled

>>28581198
This guy gets it. All it takes to be sold is surface level research, and actually trying out the fucking product.

>>28580366
it is EVM compatible noob. stop talking shit pajeet.

We stabilized at 50 during all the fud, the error event, and STILL gained and stabilized. There's no telling how far we'll go. BACK IN ACTION!

BACK IN ACTION

>>28581386
You mean like stealing 381 AVAX = 10.41 ETH out of thin air thanks to the bricked system?

>>28581386
Pathetic cope.

>>28581424
>error event

Anon. This is not an event. It's a reality built into the consensus. AVAX is done.

>>28581440
Issue was found, corrected, and now fixed for the future. Quickly and swiftly by the devteam. Meanwhile enjoy your mcd,hoge,rub,or whatever other nonsense is out there if you dont like it

>>28581400
You're quite retarded, aren't you? And how are you going to communicate with the chain if for instance you want to write a bot in C# oe Java or Rust?

>>28581218
Bad language design vs others, very messy. No private / protected inheritance. API a shit show, no mutable reference types, no direct control over object lifetimes. Construtors for struts. What is multiple inheritance? lol

I could go on and on.
>F#, more Microsoft trash.

I can see why you're poor, your life choices are poor. Don't trust people like this when it comes to assessing tech, they don't have a clue.

Learn some intelligent languages. Maybe learn Go and stop being a poor whiny bitch.

Seems like Avax holders are just as retarded as their zoomerfagging Golang devs who can't even into the basics of error handling.

well guys, 1.2k here, not fucking selling. fact is it was up, it worked, and it's not like other projects haven't hit major snags before. remember that civ 4 is pure spaghetti code and one of the best games ever made.

>>28581198
liq pool APY is gonna plummet once the bridge opens up and whales move in. definitely not looking forward to it.
this thing is like a money printer even with small amounts of AVAX pooled

>>28581334
>BNB
holy kek, we browse amonst these people.

>>28581386
I think its incredible if we're being honest. It seems like it does everything eth does but faster and cheaper. While the outage may have stalled the sick growth, now that things have calmed down it was fucking crazy to watch what would've taken eth/uniswap 10+ minutes and almost $200 in fees happen in less than 3 mins and less than $3 in fees TOTAL.

>>28581514
>quickly and swiftly
HAHA ccccooppppeeee. Bricked for 2 days with no announcements

>>28581499
Oh yes. You said it. Your words will resonate throughout the kingdoms of crypto.
> looks at charts
> stabilized
weird

>>28581609
> 5x over a few days
> Fixed issues by a working devteam
> All promises still met on system otherwise
> ???

I mean really if you guys hate it you're free to browse other threads instead of wasting your time here.

>>28581549
you use any language that EVM supports such as Solidity, js, wasm, Rust. EVM works on AVAX, my Indian friend. all can be found on the website's documentation, but I know jeets need to be spoonfed.

>>28581609
Stop posting, you use F# and C#. You're not a real programmer and have never made anything intellgent. Let me guess, you have a bachelor's degree at best. Let me guess, not the best grade either? :)

Timeline:
Bridge will be back soon
Binance will enable deposits/withdraws
Pangolin will explode
Apricot will be released
Coinbase will list
Countless other positive things will happen
AVAX will absolutely explode in price
Biz will go crazy

Do with that info what you want. It's going to happen fast.

>>28581700
> Corrected and communicated with PUBLICLY while paperhanded fucks screamed like monkeys over new technology bugs

Go be poor somewhere else

>>28581623
today was my first day messing around with the liq pools, but I think I have 1.3 eth in there total(split in eth-ava & ava-link). How much do you think I can earn before the whales move in?

>>28581440
BTC had minting bugs twice, In both combined more than 2B BTC minted and the network went through soft fork. Avalanche consensus is so secure that it diagnosed a weird behavior and stopped he minting at only 780 AVAX.

>>28581593
based

>>28581753
>:)
Holy cringe.

>>28581776
But... I have millions anon... I literally can't go anywhere and be poor. Cope harder.

>>28579497
Sneaky scam coin

>>28581856
:)

>>28581892
Oh it's RP hour ? Ok umm UWU show me your big stacks anon UWU ;;;;;; Oh you live in your mom's basement and argue against other people on 4chan about a coin you don't care about ? o . o ;;;

>>28579497
>staked in for another 2 weeks
by the end of feb, I'm either gonna be thankful to have been staked or hate my fucking self. Remains to be seen which.

guys, calm down, hasn't even been a week. let's just not be spergs tonight, pls, my dominos order is taking over an hour and i just got home from work.

>>28580702
Are any of you fags going to answer my question? How do you deal with this shit.
It'll be even worse if some fag deploys a ton of contracts. those take kilobytes of memory

>>28582017
pruning, state summaries, epochs, archival nodes

>>28581593
>using inheritance, ever, unless absolutely needed
Bad programmer detected
>API shitshow
Be specific. .NET core is absolutely based.
>no direct control over object lifetimes
That's what a garbage collector is for.
>multiple inheritance
Holy fucking shit, please stop. Either you just googled that shit or you actually don't realize how bad this is.
>>28581747
You still don't understand what Im saying, aren't you you fucking low IQ JS coder. You don't seem to realize what libraries are for, don't you? They simply enable you to communicate with the chain so you don't have to reinvent the wheel and implement serialization and websocket/rpc/api connections. The smart contract language is absolutely irrelevant. Fucking hello world programmer.

>>28582005
what did you get from dom doms?

>>28582017
is it even possible to have a small state size for a coin that supports smart contracts? you can really only go small if it's only supporting payments like BTC.

>>28581816
>>28581765
>>28581652
>>28582005
What level of copium is this?

>>28581998
IYKYK

>>28582050
Someone still needs to store all the data from contracts. You can't delete smart contracts and you can't delete the data that are stored in smart contracts otherwise you wouldn't have a blockchain.

>>28582146
Yes, someone will store the data. Your point is?

>>28582137
idk ETH devs are not increasing the gas limit because of the state size. that's why they unironically are trying to do sharding and rollups and shit. so I think it's definitely important to keep the state as small as possible, otherwise node operators need to buy a new hard drive every year.

>>28582147
look I can do it too!

>>28582134
buffalo chicken and uh, cheesy bread
>>28582145
what level of sperg is this? most people staked for a year,

>>28582213
If you have 5000 TPS and each transaction stores 32 bytes (which is the size of 1 address or 1 256 bit integer), that's 160kB a second or 5TB a year, which is unsustainable.

>>28582265
except I'm not larping ;)

>>28581549
Thanks for the insight, anon
Would you happen to know anything about developing apps for ADA?
If it's easy/difficult, if the devnet is quality

>>28582066
>.NET

Sorry I can't read anything else, you actually put the word based near to it. Maybe get off of 4chins and improve your skills, it's embarrasing saying that shit out loud.

Learn something intellegent / useful and stop embarrasing yourself. People browsing here actually know what they're talking about and it's cringe worthy seeing posts like yours.

Also post your github and portfolio please, you sound poor in pocket and mind.

>>28582327
I am larping! I'm only replying now just to screw with you while playing around with crypto. That's how much this doesn't matter at all, you're side laughs for me, while you blah blah in a thread that you have no investment in.

>>28582311
There will be archival nodes that handle the storage. Your calculation is also assuming peak operation 24 hrs a day, which won't be reached in a while.

The point is there are technical upgrades that can be implemented to handle storage. Every node having to store all of the history is pretty smooth-brained thinking.

>>28582145
Shit shit already brought me to 7 figure hell, post your earnings please.

>>28580366
What a load of horseshit

>>28582402
>intellegent

>>28582439
so the devs are unironically doing sharding too?

>>28582413
you're right. I'll go be rich somewhere else. byebye.

PS - AVAX will be $20 by next week

>>28582066
you're retarded because the AVAX node uses json rpc just like bitcoin, eth, etc which can be accessed from a simple curl command.
AVAX chads have no obligation to provide custom support for whatever curry lang which happens to be the only one you know.

>>28582499
No

>>28582494
yes

>>28579497
no, biz is dead

I don't even get what they're arguing about. Every half way decent chain offers multiple libraries of all kinds of programming language. Only this Turkroach shitcoin has nothing except for a Typescript library, KEK.
>>28582377
Cardano is probably one if not the best implemented project out there.
>>28582402
So you wrote 3 blocks of shit without a single argument against .NET. Worse, you're a redditspacing faggot who tried to sound smart. Again, telle what's wrong with .NET core. I'll even give you time to Google.

>>28580366
The project is still early as fuck, go-ethereum doesn't have libraries for C, javascript, rust, etc, either. It's just a Go implementation. Those other implementations and libraries will come from other organizations later just as they did with ethereum. You clearly have not been around this space for long. Bitcoin started out with only one C++ implementation too, you dumbass.

>>28582499
sharding, subnets, differentiation of validator responsibilities, tomato, tomahto

>>28582545
congrats on being retarded and alive at the same time, enjoy it while it lasts.

>>28582456
Same old biz, the larping has gotten stale tho

>token release in march
Y I K E S

>>28582545
>>> "Cardano is probably one if not the best implemented project out there."

I'm dying, this is a joke right? How retarded can you be?

>>28582520
So yo expect me to write all the serialization schemas? Why? I don't have to do it for Ethereum. Neither do I have to do with for ADA or any other halfway decent chain out there. Holy shit you niggers got Turkish cock all up your ass. After all these posts you still haven't come up with argument you mudslime niggers, kek.

>>28582250
Emin said "cherry" update has some incredible things to share on state bloat, He said he's the most excited about it so it should be good, If they come up with something great then all the whole space will profit as state bloat is shared problem.

>>28582666
I ak talking about code quality and available libraries. Can you please tell me what exactly is bad about their Haskell implementation? At least their now throwing around with nils like those zoomerfagging Golang avax "devs" like a bunch of retards

>>28582545
>Microsoft
You can look up the rest of the bad yourself, they're lots to dig through.

You never told me how poor you are by the way.

Look at the amount of people calling you a dumbass and self reflect. Maybe learn some good new tech too boomer. Solidity, Python, Go. You have actual good options. Also you best get to bed, gotta be ready for the cagie come Monday.

>>28579497
No, but a lot of seething bizposters want it to be

>>28581593
By the way you know golang has multiple inheritance, right?

>>28582801
One can only wonder why

lmao this boy still eats this shit
so ridiculous to check this shilling about algorithms and algo’s that you made here
smart fish wait for bot ocean private sale stop and trade with bots on dex and cex release
>as u got I am smart and not a sucker like this niggers

>>28582756
*they're Not throwing
>>28582786
And still no arguments.
>Microsoft
The .NET Core implementation is open source. Truth is you have 0 programming experience. After all these posts you didn't come up with a single technical argument.

>>28582835
And you know I was saying that C# doesn't as one of the many reasons why it's bad. Read.

>>28582545
This retard actually thinks you should write a blockchain in a JIT VM language

>>28582786
>Solidity
I know Solidity
>Python
I also know and use Python. Please show me where I can find an Avax Python library and I will shut up.
>says C# is bad
>Go is good
TOP fucking KEK

>>28582884
Read my post here or don't, I don't care
>>28581593

How are you not embarrased yet? Look at your responses.
Answer my request, post your portfolio.

>>28582951
C# is bad, Go is better.

You're not intellegent, intellegent people don't post like this, or this:
>Holy shit you niggers got Turkish cock all up your ass.

>>28582886
oops my bad
>>28582956
>thinking someone will voluntarily dox themselves by posting their github with their real name on it

there are some projects you just know wont go anywhere

>>28583060
Worth a shot, he seems retarded lmao

>>28582756
Nice job exposing your larp. That's literally how you are supposed to handle errors in Golang, the only way. Fucking dumbass.

https://blog.golang.org/error-handling-and-go

update, dominos almost done.

>>28582956
>Read my post here or don't, I don't care
And just like that you gave up. Enjoy sucking Turk dick. It's a known fact that these Turk niggers hired in other niggers to shill on this board but that shit doesn't work on me.
>>28582913
First of all I didn't say that, second of all what's wrong with JIT compilation?
>>28583027
Why is Go better? Give me 3 arguments.
>muh racism
Kek, he's pulling the victim card now.
>>28583107
First of all that's not true because there's an error interface which means you can and should implement your own custom errors and second of all that's one of the reasons why go sucks. Error handling is atrocious. Its a language that was made for retards, even the creator said so.

>>28581424
>stabilized
That's a really funny way to say you the network is at a standstill and deposits are halted on virtually every exchange. AVAX baggies can't even dump, because they're not allowed in. Not to mention all the retards who staked their shit.

anyone else not understanding any of this yet also enjoying the shitshow?

please just let these idiots fud, more accumulation time is always good

>>28583308
same here

seriously though, super comfy avax threads after work are my favorite thing, and it's just not happening tonight. i'm gonna watch league of legends music videos then go to bed.

>>28583314
You'll be accumulating pebbles off the street in 2 weeks time, dont worry ;)

>Ethereum has plenty of libs
>Cardano has plenty of libs
>Polka has plenty of libs
>Cosmos has plenty of libs
>EOS has plenty of libs
>even fucking Tron has plenty of libe
>only Avax has nothing but a single JS/TS lib and their Turk nigger holders tell you to fuck off
KEK

>>28583220
>Holy shit you niggers got Turkish cock all up your ass.

You're not going to make it.

Look I'll be serious with you for once. Any dev worth their salt knows that it's all about picking the right tool for the job. You're being a piss baby because they wont cater to >muh needs.

Also your poor, get back in your cage.

>merhaba MasHaLLaH emin, plies pump

People right now are paying 0.5% every 8hrs to go long on Avax.

For reference that means a position of 1,000 Avax (long) will cost you $250 every eight hours.

Dats crazy.

>>28580103
>but I am rich
based

>>28583163
good shit anon, but lose some weight when you make it. Okay?

Anyone know if we can sell avax on binance or convert it? I actually wanted to hodl but I have bills coming up and I'm poor so I wanna sell.

>>28583561
since when have high funding rates been good? literally every time funding for btc goes that high it dumps and tons of morons get liquidated

>>28583536
>ad hominems 24/7
>reddit spacing
Cope. It's funny you talk about picking the right tool. You're again proving my point. Avax basically forces me to use JS in order to communicate with the chain. No other chain does that. I cba to write my own lib just to try shit out. Avax' ecosystem is pathetic.

>>28583678
if it's evm compatible couldn't you use web3.py or something?
web3.py works for matic and xdai, i don't see why it won't work for this.

>>28583678
Learn the tools or don't and fuck off. I've never met a single good dev who argues over tech bar underachieving undergrads in college. Go too difficult for you?

What do you have in your portfolio? Are you a wage cuck?

>>28583404
>You'll be accumulating pebbles off the street in 2 weeks time, dont worry
I wish that was true, wanted to get into avax at 4, but was priced out and got at 20, regardless of the double spending issue, which was solved pretty quickly, this project is probably one of the few which has working dapps. It would be foolish to sell now.

Do you like my meme lines?

$60 soon.

>>28583631
on it fren, either believe in avax or don't. this week is a bump in the road, many miles ahead.

>>28583939
Bought in around 9-12, staked for two more months. I believe anon.

>>28583790
You also need to implement the cryptography in order to generate keys, addresses etc.. That Turk nigger up there doesn't know all of that..
>>28583834
Have you ever thought that I might have written tools like bots in other languages? You think Im going to rewrite shit in the worst language of the planet just because that shitty chain has a shitty ecosystem?

>>28583871
>solved
The guy literally stole 10.41 ETH off the system and got away with it though

Hope you are right and wont be forced to sell at even or a loss, but my turkroach radar for this project says otherwise

>>28583834
>.Go too difficult for you?
Go is not difficult for anyone which is the problem and often results in horrendous code bases.

>>28583929
i like your meme lines anon

>>28584049
I'm glad you wont lmao. Side question, you're American right?

I'll ask again. What do you have in your portfolio? Are you a wage cuck?

>>28584049
Not that guy you've been arguing with, but you don't have to do anything. In fact if you don't like avax then just fuck off and write code for some pajeet scam coin.

>>28584251
Exactly. Have you noticed there's a clear distinction between hodlers and fudders?

>>28584108
>The guy literally stole 10.41 ETH off the system and got away with it though
If you think about it, it’s not a lot of money for good quality bounty hunting. Congrats to that anon, that’s the reward for being so early

>>28584251
>>28584366
>resorting to ad hominem to defend an exposed scamcoin
ngmi

>>28584161
Austrian. I am one of the maintainers of one of the most used hashing libraries on .NET and the JVM. I'll tell you that much.
>>28584251
See the thing is, everywhere Im reading about how great it's supposed to be so I came telling about my experience as a dev. Instead of actually accepting it as a flaw that Turk nigger starts talking nullshit about .NET and my dev skills. He's retarded and blinded by his holdings. Unless that changes, nobody is going to use avax after the hype is gone.

>>28584251
>write code for some pajeet scam coin.
Ethereum and ADA are pajeet scam coins? Pretty much all top 20 coins come with libraries, avax is an exception. How fucking stubborn do you have to be? It's a problem.

THE CRABBING NEVER STOPS

>>28584049
if it's a carbon copy of eth then key generation should work the same way right?

>>28581765
>Freezable Assets
It already does that lmao

>>28581765
The entire blockchain grinding to a halt for several days is a feature? Well shit, now I'm bullish

>>28584559
I would like to check out the hashing lib, have a name?

Why are you in this thread? What is your motivation.

Again. What do you have in your portfolio? Are you a wage cuck?

>>28584634
>Ethereum and ADA are pajeet scam coins? Pretty much all top 20 coins come with libraries, avax is an exception. How fucking stubborn do you have to be? It's a problem.
Avax hasn’t been around for as long as the other chains. Building libraries and bindings for multiple languages is not a priority at this point

>>28583929
here are the real meme lines
>>28584762
>>28584890
kek

>>28582001
Since we can do nothing about it, we shouldn't worry. What happens, happens.

>>28584735
Yes and no https://docs.avax.network/build/references/cryptographic-primitives#cryptography-in-the-avalanche-virtual-machine

Easy for me to implement but Im not gonna do it for free because Im no fucking communist. They dont even fund devs for developing libraries which is funny. Greedy Turk niggers.
>>28584893
>please reveal your true name on 4chan of all places
There's a reason I didn't give you the name of the library. Use those two brain cells you got left. I am in this thread because you're trying to sell this shit as the next big thing but it isnt. All thr other chains immediately offered libraries so devs could build stuff on it. I would have left a long time ago if it hadn't been for you starting to talk nonsense about coding and my skills. You nigger.

Soon, Radix bros. Soon.

>>28583163
Looks awful.

>>28585278
hmm i was under the impression that web3 would also work since i was able to use my private keys to sign txs with matic and xdai

So is AVAX up and running again? All issues fixed?

>>28585278
> Morty is quite confused because a public key should be safe to be public knowledge. Rick belches and explains that hashing the public key protects the private key owner from potential future security flaws in elliptic curve cryptography. In the event cryptography is broken and a private key can be derived from a public key, users can transfer their funds to an address that has never signed a transaction before, preventing their funds from being compromised by an attacker. This enables coin owners to be protected while the cryptography is upgraded across the clients.
500 IQ

>>28585461
Until Binance re-enables AVAX deposits, this token is effectively frozen and its true price cannot be reflected

>>28585617

Is there an ETA on this?

>>28585278
also metamask uses web3 right and i think metamask works with avax? so it should work right?
also:Cryptography in Ethereum Virtual Machine
Avalanche nodes support the full Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) and precisely duplicate all of the cryptographic constructs used in Ethereum. This includes the Keccak hash function and the other mechanisms used for cryptographic security in the EVM.

>>28585617
Withdrawals and deposits went live on OKCoin a few hours ago, so only matter of time.

>>28585278
I thought you'd be stupid enough to tell. You told me you were Austrian so we're getting there.

I get an idea of your mind by messaging you so I'm not here to debait your skills, no need. I've hired a few like you.
So you just came here to try tell people it's not the next best thing and that's it? I haven't actually seen you give one serious reason to consider anything, any alternatives, any valid criticisms of the code. Just self-centered conceited whining.

Austria is nice at least, women aren't great there though.

>>28579497
Many angry bagholders who bought the top and sold at a loss will now FUD hard because they couldn't handle holding and will seethe hard when it does a climb to 100 dollars in a month.

Yes, it is. Give me your bags on the way out, I'll gladly hold them.

>>28585886
>last price on OKCoin is $53, only $2 above CMC global average
>The entire bullrun, OKCoin had a premium of 5 to 8 dollars above global average due to its shit liquidity
I can now confidently say this is gonna dump like never before seen once Binance reopens on this data alone.

>>28586323
>went from 70% to 77% staked since patch
Yeah okay, buddy. https://www.stakingrewards.com/

>>28586702
You didn't even address what I said. I am familiar with OKCoin and how it was because that's where I bought in before the bull run. I got out as soon as the network collapsed, because my tokens were still on there, and put my gains into ALGO, and while AVAX has floundered around 50 dollars the last 3 days, I've made another 35% on ALGO. But go ahead and tell yourself that what happened the last few days isn't a problem.

>>28586902
I did though retard. How are people going to deposit their avax onto binance when it's staked?

>>28587209
Whatever anyone was lucky enough to have unstaked will be dumped as soon as they can

>>28585954
after doing more than 100% profit, I sold half of my bag, and keeping the rest to rise
it's fucking retarded to baghold a coin when the avax network bricked and you can't deposit or withdraw from exchanges

>>28587261
I hope so, will give me a chance to accumulate more on the cheap. Unfortunately this is never going below 40 again.

Pretty much. $50 cannot hold any longer. It's been days. Guess where know where this is going

>>28581609
Don't care, never selling

>>28585278
>>28584559
>I am one of the maintainers of one of the most used hashing libraries on .NET and the JVM

Is this supposed to be impressive lmao. Why is this nobody talking about his insignificant work? Must be why he has to come here to seethe and try shit on actual tech. Ngmi’s among us

>>28587461
>>28587368
>>28587261
>>28587761
>>28587812

Yes, we only have one way to go.

Ok if AVAX is so bad then shill me a replacement, I'll wait...

>>28584559
>>28587812
>I am one of the maintainers of one of the most used hashing libraries on .NET and the JVM. I'll tell you that much.

Pussy destroyer lmao, imagine how wet the panties get. Code monkey better get back in the cagie

>>28587461
>49 dollars down from 61 dollars
>it was 11 dollars 2 weeks ago

It's over...

>>28587849
Up?

>>28586702
What do you not get? Like 90% of avax is either staked in their wallet, staked on binance or liquidity in png. This figure has been going up. None of of care what the other 10% exchange baggies do. Dump and tank the price we will just buy it.

>>28588420
why are you replying to me? I get that faggot.

>>28588621
Sorry cunt, was meant for the other cunt.

>>28581706
>I mean really if you guys hate it you're free to browse other threads instead of wasting your time here.
they dont...they want to buy it cheap.

Lmao, so many retards here. I got to admit tho, the biggest retard is Shappy and Waronrugs, Ive seen their faces and I've never seen more down-syndrome looking fellows than those two

>>28579497
No, it's not dead. Even if the FUDders manage to make people sell and the project crashes, we can still use Pangolin and Zero Exchange to interact with the Ethereum networks without gas fees.

dark green smashing light green ITT
not a good look for AVA

>>28580187
Code is shit there was more avax in circulation than should have been

>>28580702
Epochs and pruning

>>28588039
let me translate the psychology of that price movement for you:

it ran out of buyers and topped out at $61, and people who still have AVAX on exchanges are slowly starting to take profits after the run up from $11.

it tried to rally back from $50 but failed to do so after multiple days.

there's no serious downward pressure yet because the AVAX blockchain broke and wallets cannot withdraw to exchanges to sell off. once withdrawals are fine, expect some serious sell-off.

>>28582377
Plutus is based on Haskell which is not easy. But Marlowe is much easier.

Cardano is planning on fully releasing IELE in the next few years which will allow for developers to use literally any programming language in existence.

>>28579497
YES, Thankfully i am now on the LTO train with a make it stack. There is a very good reason the first Riddler/michael burry meme hit the LTO breads yesterday. /biz needs to do the math on LTO before monday!

>>28589892
>it was 11 dollars
>will be 33 dollars
>then run up to 99 dollars when everything is fixed

IT'S
FUCKING
OVER

COMP is the new AVAX

>>28584049
>You also need to implement the cryptography in order to generate keys, addresses etc..
a key on ethereum is a valid key on AVAX c-chain

You just dont get access to the AVAX private key that was used to derive the EVM private key

>>28581198
100 percent. As soon as some defi loans stuff come out im out of eth eco system for good. Most of my liquid eth is on avax already from the bridge.

>>28579497
Yes

>>28585278
>All thr other chains immediately offered libraries so devs could build stuff on it
unnecessary work that slows down rollouts. results in the vaporware-rife environment we all see in crypto.

this can be done after a release to make this shit going

>>28584762
jej

>>28590094
it's over. imagine having a public blockchain that mints more than it's total supply and having a centralized wallet that goes down with the blockchain itself, freezing asset withdrawal.

not a good look

>>28586702
genesis wallets are the cause

>>28582147
>>28582265
you faggots are fucking set for life what the fuck are you doing in a 4channel thread dick measuring in 2AM in the morning.

get a fucking life losers, it's literally the only thing left for you to do.

>>28590354
This FUD is so obvious.

>>28590031
I'm on the LTO train also friend. Should I dump my 360 AVAX and go all in?

eThErEuM kIlLerRrRrRrr broken on the first DEX

So 790 AVAX was accidentally minted, which means the one anon literally got like half of it. Nice.
Anyway, problem solved. No hard fork required to fix. Rapid response from the developers. ETH maxis are stroking themselves at the news ofc, but I don't see this killing the project.

>>28581816
As much as retards are raging about the issue, this is the definition of failing safely. A tiny amount of AVAX was minted incorrectly and the entire network ground to a halt. Yes, it sucks, but bugs are bound to exist in any and every project, so I'm glad to see that this is as bad as it gets. Funds are SAFU.

>>28579497
It should be, but we are in a bubble so its not. When trash like doge/shiba/hoge is pumping and CNN is publishing articles telling people to get into bitcoin you just know things are about to pop.

All this has done is make me more hyped about the dot launch coming up.

If this ghost sidechain can do a 20x due to release then a major ecosystem player like dot with a working product on release must be in line for at least the same levels of future price action. I know AVAX has an army of Turkish incels pushing up the price but still.

>>28590354
Ok, I'm imagining. Which project has minted more than its total supply and ONLY has a centralised wallet?

>>28581593
Go is one of the worst designed languages around. I'd rather use PHP.

>>28591451

That's a huge fucking issue that should never have fucking happened and shows the that the devs are clearly not up to task, the fact Emin shit on every other project like his was top dog and after only a few hours the network shits it's self and DEVs don't say a fucking word, said it was an API issue and took 2 days to fix and still isn't 100% working.

>>28591799
I guess by your standards then ETH and BTC should be dead as well.

>>28591451
>>28591725
The bug was found by accident by people who didnt even look

Now everyone knows the codebase is absolute burning pile of trash
Imagine now when the skilled people show up
Very bad
Very very very bad

Many times Ive seen same thing in cryptospace
Remember IOTA quantum safe trinary self developed crypto? For years biztards believed it, until 1 person took a closer look under the hold and found absolute trash

Im sorry but the only way to recover from this as a project is to fire the leadership

Seq has got to go this is his failure of leadership architecture and design
Fire the team for lying and censoring the explorer
Fire the devs let them code websites
Hire the best devs. Hire PR firm
Hint you dont find the best devs being golang bitches
Hire devs from even Java community, Scala
Hire devs from Rust, Spark, Haskell, Dlang.
Write 2 new node implementations

Only if all this is done can avax be a succcess. Otherwise forever another nice but dead shitcoin with bugs appearing every month

>>28591897
This is a retarded take, go could never be 1% as bad PHP.

>>28591929
ETH and BTC were experimental technology figuring tjings out for the first time in history. This shit tripped on rocks that were clearly labeled and catalogued by those who came before them.

>>28591840
Cope harder dotfag. Imagine how much money you'd have if you bought avax instead of dot.

>>28592073
Avalanche is more "experimental" technology than Ethereum. Not BTC tho.

>>28591031
Yes

>>28592066
The bug was found and fixed by the dev team. And bugs are often found by people not looking for them, also known as users. A user found a bug? Fuck me it's all over.

Every code base has bugs. This codebase has proven that it FAILS SAFE.

>self developed crypto
Always retarded.

The worst part about this whole situation was the communication around it. They need paid talent and probably an exec involved that focuses on this. Because people's money is at stake.

You need to get a grip and put this in context. UK banks experienced more than 300 major outages in 2018. You're investing in a project that is still getting off the ground. Things are going to happen. Deal with it. Or go invest in bonds if you can't handle risk.

>>28591908
Devs never said it was API issues, Only the community chat admin speculating. The first announcement from the devs claimed it was a validity check bug tho they didn't go into details until the patch rolled.

>>28592066
This.

>>28592547
> fails safe
Wrong, the minting didnt stop the network. Several mints happened without stopping the network.
The network was halted by the ava labs taking their nodes offline thus causing a network stall. Since they knew. Liars.

A fail safe would have stopped the event from occuring more than 1 time.
There is at least 3 different minting events, before network was halted.

Im not gonna deal with it, Ill move over to polkadot, cardano and algorand where I dont have to deal with incompetent golang devs.

the level of delusion by the AVAX defence team here is next level.

there was a double-mint and it's still not fixed. hard to call yourself a blockchain if that ever occurs and your centralized wallet got taken down to prevent mass sell offs

>>28592977
What do you mean it's not fixed? The bug was fixed and an equivalent amount of AVAX was burned by the Avalanche Foundation. Problem fucking solved.

>>28592780
>The network was halted by the ava labs taking their nodes
taking their nodes offline would't DO SHIT

all the other nodes would just set up a consensus. The only logical thing to do is to take ALL THE NODES THAT ARENT AVA LABS which is impossible

>>28593334
Somebody who understands what a decentralised network is in this thread? Fuck me

>>28593334
Ava labs own 80% of the stake dude
Tho they didnt simply shut down the nodes they just modified their nodes to not make any decisions to not respond to votes on C or P chain but only on ping pong and getVersion
Network stall

The network did not stall at first sight of illegal mint
The nodes didnt even detect the illegal mint but processed it as totally valid
Muh fail safe

Fire Seq
Fire the dev team
Hire PR firm
Stop being cheapskates
Hire manly Chad Rust Dlang Haskell SPARK devs

>>28593616
> chad rust trannies

This is how you spot a shill

>>28593797
Its also a pasta.

>>28593797
>>28593867
>>28593418
Cheerleaders

>>28593911
Im not a cheerleader but I know this project has been the subject of intense fudding because it mooned and a lot of people missed the boat. I'm 50/50 on whether or not its dead. The market will tell us. Right now it just seems to have killed momentum thats all.

>>28592726
God I hate those tranny devs especially fawkes. I'm selling

>>28594192
Types of your kind are the worst you are only here to make money like on a ponzi scheme
You make money on people who dont understand better

People invested in avax dont even know how to read an explorer as we saw in the other threads

No principles no morals
If you could make money on killing babies you would ask how much

>>28594192
My opinion is that people who had their bags on exchanges would have gotten out way before others were able to and that would have been reflected in the price one the exchange.

>>28594418
Yeah people would have sold but people are not selling on the exchanges

>>28582545
I am dotnet dev and even I know this is retarded.

Remember to always do what /biz/ says.
SELL SELL SELL!

>>28594500
>>28594418
Delusion denial stage

Everyone on exchanges sold already h between 60 and 42

>>28596561
So its dead? It will literally never reach another ATH is your opinion? I'd think thats more delusional considering more and more companies are still partnering up. I do at least accept I may be wrong here and no one knows really.

>>28579497
yes. devs pushed a rushed project to market waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy before it was ready. nobody can ever trust this team ever again.

>>28594293
Hes not a dev though. Is it because he banned you from the discord for fudding?

>>28596665
they were partnering up before this happened, no one will partner with them now.
Read >>28592030

>>28580702
State pruning is way easier to on Avalanche than Nakamoto. If anything, nakamoto is kill.

>>28590453
>still think magic internet numbers (money) can buy happiness
ngmi

Numbers don't lie

rate my porrfolio:
50% sentinel
50% cosmos

I hope not, Anons. I want you all to make it. I feel your pain.

>>28592977
Block validity check failed and the same Tx got included multiple time into the C-chain. Double spent usually means a Tx got reverted after consensus was reached, which isn't the case here.

>>28597400
You pic says nothing except lower/higher mcap, but that doesnt mean anything.
>>28597409
You're betting on Cosmos 100%, if cosmos fails so does sentinel. So I'd rate it 2/10

>>28596665
See Byteball, Obyte now
See PeerCoin, Nxt, FeatherCoin, Dash masternodes and many more
See Namecoin

Any bullrun has these overpromised underdelivered coins which end up dead ghostchains

hey

>>28597588
You see what you want to see. Never marry your bags. We are all to make money here

>>28581593
Spoken like a true first year compsci major

>>28597627
None of those ghostchains do anything like Avalanche. Disable your VPN shill.
>>28597656
You are. We want dapps that change the world. It's where the money will be anyway.

>>28597543
Codebase is trash on fire
Thats all there is to it
Team is censoring liars and cheapskates

>>28597543
No
>With digital currency, there is a risk that the holder could make a copy of the digital token and send it to a merchant or another party while retaining the original.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/doublespending.asp

His transaction, same ID, split into 7 different ones
https://avascan.info/blockchain/c/address/0x0a99c32AFFAEc0a697D4CB4bf660Eeddcf432c21/transactions

He then staked the original 63.45 and exchanged the 381 for 10.4 ether, that's a double spend.
>Double-spending is a potential flaw in a digital cash scheme in which the same single digital token can be spent more than once. Unlike physical cash, a digital token consists of a digital file that can be duplicated or falsified.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-spending

>Double-spending is a potential issue in a digital cash system where the same funds are spent to two recipients at the same time. Without any adequate countermeasures, a protocol that doesn’t resolve the problem is fundamentally undermined
https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/double-spending-explained

>Double-spending is a problem that arises when transacting digital currency that involves the same tender being spent multiple times. Multiple transactions sharing the same input broadcasted on the network can be problematic and is a flaw unique to digital currencies.
https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/other/double-spending/

>>28597656
>>28597711
>one of these posters is stacking and can't sell

>>28597711
Just check what Fantom Foundation is doing in Afghanistan, them talk about changing the world...

>>28597783
>stacking
pls go ranjesh

>>28597829
*looks at Fantom Team page*
living there?

>>28590453
>inspect element
are you this retarded

>>28597716
It's not that simple, working on an asynchronous DAG consensus is the highest level of difficulty among all distributed ledger projects. It's actually somewhat impressive they managed to make it work with only this as an issue.
>>28597765
>His transaction, same ID, split into 7 different ones
Yes, you can call it a double spent if you want, but it's just a word game. What people usually mean by this is a byzantine fault, which isn't what happened here. The same level of issue happened many times on BTC and ETH, and are still happening ( https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-history-part-10-the-184-billion-btc-bug/ ). If you weren't a dishonest fantom shill, you would be more preoccupied by this than Avalanche.

amazing that with all this fud avax is still holding the 40-50 range

lmao try harder anons, I also want to buy more at a better price

But I loaded my bags at $5

>>28597711
Lol, IOTA is exactly like AvAX overpomised burning pile of centralized trash delivered

Censorship and lies is another common factor in IOTA and AVAX

Network stall didnt happen by failssafe
Ava labs and friends own enough stake to stall, or censorship transactions
Centralized shitcoin man

A team that rushes untested code into production cannot be trusted. Avax can forget about government deals...

>>28598026
It's not a word game, it's the definition of a double spend. Several double spends happened on AVAX.

The same issue has NOT happened on ETH or BTC
This has already been discussed here. >>28594251
>It was a problem yes, it wasn't the same problem. It was in bitcoins and cryptocurrencies infancy. Remember that bitcoins testing phase was public, this was in the testing phase. AVAX wasn't, AVAX is live with $3,677,711,494 in mcap. Bitcoins mcap wasn't anywhere close to it, the highest it ever touched during that year was $1,000,000.

Honestly, confidence is broken. This shits going to dump

>>28598091
IOTA coordicide is literally heavily inspired by avalanche meta-stability approach (some people report that this is backward, and avax copied iota though).
>>28598161
>The same issue has NOT happened on ETH or BTC
Wrong, coin minting because of a validity bug happened many times. Also I'm not going to reply to you anymore because you're obviously not interested in truth, and will do anything to shill fantom. Don't buy avax if you don't like it.

>>28598026
Roflmao

Hire competent java haskell rust ada devs instead or kids from high school then talk about difficulty

This is not 1 bug it reveals there is many more
Safety is not guatanteed

Double spend didnt happened in bitocin in 2010 it was inflation bug creating new coins and was fixed without lies deceit in 1h

Here literally 1 transaction input was accepted as true by network as being 7 times

>>28593241
Proof?

>>28598305
>Here literally 1 transaction input was accepted as true by network as being 7 times
Validity check bug, not a byzantine fault. End of story.

>>28598074
80% of avax is staked
Everyone sold causing price to drop from 60 to 42
The rest cant sell since network is not safe to use, binance doesnt accept deposits

They know

Now its bots trading each other
50k is false fake volume on binance

>>28598299
Fire yourself seq

Iota is a shitcoin even if they copy avax consensus

>>28598363
>using the "short ladder attack" argument
Lmao.

>>28580913
I also code my projects in c# and I hold 100k AVAX from 2 ICO KYC-s.
What does c# have to do with poverty, kek

>>28598299
Nope. Prove it, send me the proof. Oh, right you can't because it has never happened.
You can go through this thread
>>28592030 where this has already been discussed and there has been absolutely 0 double spends on bitcoin, but there has been multiple ones on AVAX. The platform is doomed.

Other than the 2010 bug which was in the testing phase you can't find anything. Also it's not "minting", AVAX is lying to you. It's a double spend by definition, stop being a cheerleader.
I have mentioned fantom exactly 0 times, I don't hold fantom and I am disgusted by people like you who lie to others.
AVAX had double spends, it's a major problem. BTC never had a double spend.

>>28598358
>Validity check bug
Come on man, use your brain

>>28598488
This is not how it works. If it were a double spent, the previous consensus of the network would not even show up in the the explorer. You obviously trying to be deceptive to the people who don't understand anything about Tx hash or technical stuff. I can't beat you to that obviously, since I'm not paid to post.

>>28598358
It's not a bug it's a feature

>>28581499
been saying this for 3 days and it's still hitting 50 every night...

>>28598652
Hm? What are you talking about?
He sent a transaction with the same ID which got sent and conrfirmed multiple times, he thereby duplicated his 63.45 AVAX and then managed to use it to stake the original 63.45 and then exchange the remaining 381 for 10.4 wETH. Thereby a double spend by definition.
>With digital currency, there is a risk that the holder could make a copy of the digital token and send it to a merchant or another party while retaining the original.

>retaining the original
63.45 staked
>make a copy of the digital token and send it to a merchant or another party
381 duplicated exchanged for wETH

If you dont fire Seq and reorganizeava labs
Ill turn black hat next time

Im white hat told you check your fuckin node security
You didnt listen

Ive told anons here is how you can get free coins, thats gray hat

Ive hacked other shitcoins before like IOTA they deserved it

If I dont see this lies deceit censorship gone all gone
If I dont see Seq gone

Next attack will be against the network

Its literally holding 47-50$ on binance. SEETHE, DILATE AND EAT SHIT RETARD FUDDERS.

>>28598863
Oh, you're right shill-kun. My bad. I lied. It's a double spent! It's over, avax is kill. what are we gonna do!?

Oh right, not buy fantom. Nobody cares about a network that can't scale beyond 37 nodes.

>>28598907
larp more virgin

AVAX will rise again soon

>>28598924
>it's only higher because people can't sell

> tfw when $10k of AVAX is locked away in binanca at 15% interest for 90 days

>>28598907
ok
Don't do anything before the end of feb though

>>28599019
>>28599019
Avax, Ethereum Classic, Vertcoin will rise again. Top 10 coins after double spend incidents...

>>28598969
I never said buy fantom. Why are you acting like I'm a fantom shill?
You're the only shill here, defending a broken coin with a dishonest team. They lied to you, multiple times and you still trust them?
>It's just a minting bug, not a double spend, please believe me non-tech people

>>28599135
How's $5000 sound?

>>28599220
>>28599202
>>28599135
Hahahahaha


>>28598907
Oh shiieet

>>28599260
That would be a big loss for some people to stomach.

>>28580913
>he doesn't code in HolyC

When wil the bridge be back up?

I want to claim and sell my FREE shitcoin PNGs

>>28598863
You forgot to mention the user in question didnt show any etherscan data. His transaction stayed stuck in the c-chain of the AVAX network. Without the etherscan data, there is no proof he spend his AVAX to buy ETH, thus configuring a double spend. Wrapped ETH inside the c-chain could still be a API issue.

>>28599714
There is no way to know as whole fucking network is broken and no one can move anything.

>>28599873
Absolute bullshit, the only thing that is down is the bridge

>>28599986
Ignore them, They just jump from one false statement to another and force argument with you

>>28599714
You're wrong. The wETH was exchanged for the 381 AVAX that shouldn't have existed, so no matter what token he exchanged it for, he used duplicated AVAX to make a transaction and get ahold of another token. This is a successful double spend, it doesn't matter if it got out of the network or not.

If someone managed to duplicate his ETH and traded it for LINK, is it not a double spend because he never put it on the AVAX chain?

binance smart chain is better and your funds are actually safu

>>28599986
And without bridge whole avalanche is nothing. Whole point was the fucking working bridge.

Anyone can create blockchain, any beginner can literally create blockchain like avalanche. There is countless opensource projects to fork, but when your whole project's most important thing is down, exchanges don't accept avax deposits anymore and there is proofs of double spending you are fucked.
I don't know which is more horrible thing here; that anon could buy 10 eth with avax that come from no where or possibility that devs might be able to take it away from that anon.

If last case is true the project is dead and if first case is true project is dead.

>>28600227
they're accrediting anon's eth as a bug bounty and supposedly burned all the double ""mints"" out of avalanche foundation's supply

tldr; the project is dead

>>28600227
>broken english
opinion immediately discard, sorry anon

a double spend? on eleet haxor's blockchain?

OH NO NO NO NO

>>28600123
>minting bugs are now double spend attacks, why? Because it fits my narrative

You can be overly pedandic about anything to a point you wouldn't have categories. Basic argument manipulation.

>>28600465
Explain how it wasn't a double spend when it fits exactly every criteria of a double spend?

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/doublespending.asp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-spending

https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/double-spending-explained

https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/other/double-spending/

>>28580366
you will never be human, disgusting hindu animal

>>28581198
this.

AVAX will be 400+ eoy even with a bearish BTC

>>28600402
cope is strong in this one

>>28600523
https://twitter.com/el33th4xor/status/1360390331041202176?s=21

Learn to read, and learn.

When AVAX pumps this week, dont whine, we all told you so.

It's a shitty roach coin that gets spammed by roach nationalists everywhere they're can spam it. At least reddit has the sense to delete the shill threads and point out its flaws. There's a reason why AVAX is never discussed on any platform with decent moderation.
This subhuman company literally gave announcements in t*rkish before English. Fuckin pathetic lmao

guys so was it double spending? In January 2018, the Tron blockchain also had a double-spending problem where many people made millions just by sending coins from wallet to wallet.

>>28580839
He's poor because he knows the technicals behind the roach coin you threw your life savings into? Lmao legit kys faggot

>>28600891
Should I read this too? >>28599220
You realize he is just saying minting because he is trying to do damage control?
You didn't refute my argument. It is a double spend by definition, you can't argue against that.

bros, it keeps dumping
not that i mind because i got in at 5$ but still
i tought we're going too 100$ this month...

>>28600919
Why english if this could be interpreted as American nationalism anyway.
>>28600962
Depends what you define as double spending, but it's not an issue with the consensus mechanism.

>>28600167
Binance smart chain is a centralized copy paste of Ethereum, it's Tron 2.0

>>28600523
You need to update your shill talking points. The article you linked literally has the following as the first line:

>Double-spending is a potential issue in a digital cash system where the same funds are spent to two recipients at the same time.

You're a fucking moronic shill, you don't even deserve your 0.02 FTM per post.

>>28601187
Without bridge and with the double spending events? It will take months to recover, maybe even years. Most of the avax owners can't even sell yet, so in month we are going sub 10 $ easily

>>28600123
That's not what a double spend is anon, I see what you mean but it's not the same thing. The issue was on the cross-chain X-C bridge, not on the consensus algorithm

>>28598907
Oh no, big bad hackerman is coming for avax. I’m sure Gun is shaking in fear.

>>28600962
You can't duplicate by sending from wallet to wallet and it never happened

>>28601456
> I’m sure Gun is shaking in fear.
Why would he shake in fear he has nothing to lose? He doesnt have 100% of his investments in AVAX lol.